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* DuelingWorks: In many ways they were competing with the Raspberries, who were similarly peddling a PowerPop sound that didn't try to hide its inspirations from UsefulNotes/TheBritishInvasion. ''#1 Record'' was released around the time the Raspberries SignatureSong "Go All the Way" was breaking into the Top 40. Thanks to having more of a TeenIdol-oriented image and a much more competent label (Creator/CapitolRecords), the Raspberries won this particular battle at the time, though Big Star was eventually VindicatedByHistory (though in some ways the Raspberries have been as well).

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* DuelingWorks: In many ways they were competing with the Raspberries, who were similarly peddling a PowerPop sound that didn't try to hide its inspirations from UsefulNotes/TheBritishInvasion. ''#1 Record'' was released around the time the Raspberries SignatureSong "Go All the Way" was breaking into the Top 40. Thanks to having more of a TeenIdol-oriented image and a much more competent label (Creator/CapitolRecords), the Raspberries won this particular battle at the time, though Big Star was the critical darling and eventually VindicatedByHistory (though in some ways the Raspberries have been as well).

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* CreatorBacklash: Alex Chilton seemed to regard Big Star as this, refusing to perform the band's songs at most of his solo gigs and not seeming enthusiastic when he did play with the reunited band.



* OldShame: Alex Chilton seemed to regard Big Star as this, refusing to perform the band's songs at most of his solo gigs and not seeming enthusiastic when he did play with the reunited band.

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** Alex on ''Third/Sister Lovers''.



* WriterRevolt: The witheringly sarcastic "Thank You Friends" is basically a huge "fuck you" to the label politics that had screwed up Chilton's career. Notably, one executive commented that "Downs" sounded like a hit, so Chilton sabotaged it by replacing the rhythm track with a bouncing basketball.

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* WriterRevolt: The witheringly sarcastic "Thank You Friends" is basically a huge "fuck you" to the label politics that had screwed up Chilton's career. Notably, one executive Ardent founder John Fry commented that "Downs" sounded like a hit, so Chilton sabotaged it by replacing the rhythm track with a bouncing basketball.
basketball, slurring the lyrics, and adding a steel drum to the track.
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* DuelingWorks: In many ways they were competing with the Raspberries, who were similarly peddling a PowerPop sound that didn't try to hide its inspirations from UsefulNotes/TheBritishInvasion. ''#1 Record'' was released around the time the Raspberries SignatureSong "Go All the Way" was breaking into the Top 40. Thanks to having more of a TeenIdol-oriented image and a much more competent label (Creator/CapitolRecords), the Raspberries won this particular battle at the time, though Big Star was eventually VindicatedByHistory (though in some ways the Raspberries have been as well).
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* BigNameFan: The band was a huge influence on AlternativeRock bands like Music/{{REM}}, but [[Music/{{KISS}} Paul Stanley]], of all people, cited Big Star as an influence on KISS.
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* BigNameFan: The band was a huge influence on AlternativeRock bands like Music/{{REM}}, but [[Music/{{KISS}} Paul Stanley]], of all people, cited Big Star as an influence on KISS.
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* AcclaimedFlop: Both ''#1 Record'' and ''Radio City'' received acclaim from critics when they were released despite poor sales.

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* NamesTheSame: Music/SoftMachine also released an album called ''Third''.


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* SimilarlyNamedWorks: Music/SoftMachine also released an album called ''Third''.
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* ColbertBump: Received a boost when AlternativeRock bands like Music/{{REM}} started citing them as an influence. They also got more attention when a cover of "In The Street" was used as the theme for ''Television/That70sShow''.

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* ColbertBump: Received a boost when AlternativeRock bands like Music/{{REM}} started citing them as an influence. They also got more attention when a cover of "In The Street" was used as the theme for ''Television/That70sShow''.''Series/That70sShow''.
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* RevivalByCommercialization: A cover of "In the Street" was used as RealSongThemeTune for ''Series/That70sShow''. In later years, the band would do the song in the same style as Music/CheapTrick's cover.

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* RevivalByCommercialization: A cover of "In the Street" was used as the RealSongThemeTune for ''Series/That70sShow''. In later years, the band would do the song in the same style as Music/CheapTrick's cover.
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* ColbertBump: Received a boost when AlternativeRock bands like Music/REM started citing them as an influence. They also got more attention when a cover of "In The Street" was used as the theme for ''Television/That70sShow''.

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* ColbertBump: Received a boost when AlternativeRock bands like Music/REM Music/{{REM}} started citing them as an influence. They also got more attention when a cover of "In The Street" was used as the theme for ''Television/That70sShow''.
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* WriterRevolt: The witheringly sarcastic "Thank You Friends" is basically a huge "fuck you" to the label politics that had screwed up Chilton's career. Notably, one executive commented that "Downs" sounded like a hit, so Chilton sabotaged it by replacing the rhythm track with a bouncing basketball.

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* WriterRevolt: The witheringly sarcastic "Thank You Friends" is basically a huge "fuck you" to the label politics that had screwed up Chilton's career. Notably, one executive commented that "Downs" sounded like a hit, so Chilton sabotaged it by replacing the rhythm track with a bouncing basketball.basketball.

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* NamesTheSame: Soft Machine also released an album called ''Third''.

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* NamesTheSame: Soft Machine Music/SoftMachine also released an album called ''Third''.
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* RevivalByCommercialization: A cover of "In the Street" was used as RealSongThemeTune for ''That70sShow''. In later years, the band would do the song in the same style as Music/CheapTrick's cover.

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* RevivalByCommercialization: A cover of "In the Street" was used as RealSongThemeTune for ''That70sShow''.''Series/That70sShow''. In later years, the band would do the song in the same style as Music/CheapTrick's cover.
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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Well, label. [[LizPhair It's nice to be liked but better by far to be paid]], and you can't get paid if your album isn't in stores.

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* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Well, label. [[LizPhair [[Music/LizPhair It's nice to be liked but better by far to be paid]], and you can't get paid if your album isn't in stores.
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* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: ''Third/Sister Lovers''.

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* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: ''Third/Sister Lovers''.Lovers'' was released three years after the band broke up.



* WriterRevolt: The witheringly sarcastic "Thank You Friends" is basically a huge "fuck you" to the label politics that had screwed up Chilton's career. Notably, one executive commented that "Downs" sounded like a hit, so Chilton sabotaged it by replacing the rhythm track with a bouncing basketball.

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* WriterRevolt: The witheringly sarcastic "Thank You Friends" is basically a huge "fuck you" to the label politics that had screwed up Chilton's career. Notably, one executive commented that "Downs" sounded like a hit, so Chilton sabotaged it by replacing the rhythm track with a bouncing basketball.
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* RevivalByCommercialization: a cover of "In the Street" used as RealSongThemeTune for ''That70sShow''. In later years, the band would do the song in the same style as Music/CheapTrick's cover.

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* RevivalByCommercialization: a A cover of "In the Street" was used as RealSongThemeTune for ''That70sShow''. In later years, the band would do the song in the same style as Music/CheapTrick's cover.
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* RevivalByCommercialization: a cover of "In the Street" used as RealSongThemeTune for ''That70sShow''

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* RevivalByCommercialization: a cover of "In the Street" used as RealSongThemeTune for ''That70sShow''''That70sShow''. In later years, the band would do the song in the same style as Music/CheapTrick's cover.

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** As the albums just kept bombing and bombing, this trope came more into play, culminating in ''Third/Sister Lovers''.



* As the albums just kept bombing and bombing, this trope came more into play, culminating in ''Third/Sister Lovers''.

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* As the albums just kept bombing and bombing, this trope came more into play, culminating in ''Third/Sister Lovers''.



* WhatCouldHaveBeen: It's interesting to think what might have happened if Big Star ''did'' go on to become popular... ItsPopularNowItSucks, maybe?

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: TroubledProduction: ''Third/Sister Lovers''
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It's interesting to think what might have happened if Big Star ''did'' go on to become popular... ItsPopularNowItSucks, maybe?
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* {{Rockumentary}}: ''Nothing Can Hurt Me'' (2012). See [[http://bigstarstory.com/main_index.html here]] for info.
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* CreativeDifferences: The reason Chris Bell left.
* CreatorBreakdown:
** Alex on ''Third/Sister Lovers''.
** Andy Hummel's songs, "The India Song" and "Way Out West", were inspired by a real-life breakup he had with his girlfriend.
* CreatorCouple: The "Sister Lovers" part of the third album's name is a reference to the fact that Alex and Jody were dating two sisters, Lesa and Holliday Aldridge, while the album was being recorded, both of whom ended up performing backing vocals. Jody mentioned in later interviews that Lesa featured more heavily on the album's first incarnation, but Alex's relationship with her was rocky enough that he erased a lot of her contributions at one point.
* ExecutiveMeddling: Since Big Star had basically broken up by that point, ''Third'' was supposed to be an Alex Chilton solo album, but the label put it out under the "Big Star" name. Also, we have no idea what the actual tracklist was supposed to be: both the 1978 release and the supplanting 1992 Rykodisc version with extra tracks are more guesses, educated or otherwise.
* NamesTheSame: Soft Machine also released an album called ''Third''.
* OldShame: Alex Chilton seemed to regard Big Star as this, refusing to perform the band's songs at most of his solo gigs and not seeming enthusiastic when he did play with the reunited band.
* RevivalByCommercialization: a cover of "In the Street" used as RealSongThemeTune for ''That70sShow''
* {{Rockumentary}}: ''Nothing Can Hurt Me'' (2012). See [[http://bigstarstory.com/main_index.html here]] for info.
* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: ''Third/Sister Lovers''.
* ScrewedByTheNetwork: Well, label. [[LizPhair It's nice to be liked but better by far to be paid]], and you can't get paid if your album isn't in stores.
* ShortLivedBigImpact: The band only released two albums while they were together, yet just about every AlternativeRock band cites them as an influence.
* ThrowItIn: "Don't Lie to Me" and "She's a Mover" both start with StudioChatter.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: It's interesting to think what might have happened if Big Star ''did'' go on to become popular... ItsPopularNowItSucks, maybe?
* WriterRevolt: The witheringly sarcastic "Thank You Friends" is basically a huge "fuck you" to the label politics that had screwed up Chilton's career. Notably, one executive commented that "Downs" sounded like a hit, so Chilton sabotaged it by replacing the rhythm track with a bouncing basketball.

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