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They're just Unintentionally Unsympathetic as they're ignored by fans over this as opposed to having a hatedom.
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* Tommy's parents from "The Kangaskhan Kid" are some of the most detested one-shot characters in the entire series. In just one flashback alone, their sympathy goes out the window when Tommy's dad [[AbusiveParents dangles Tommy out the window of an airborne helicopter]] and ends up dropping him with [[ParentalNeglect little concern]]. They do appear to care for their son's whereabouts, and karma does [[LaserGuidedKarma repeatedly strike them]] for how much hell they put Ash and co. through, but their collective irresponsible parenting ends up [[IdiotHoudini getting rewarded]] by reuniting and living in the wild with their son, when they're the last people Tommy should be around. The fact that the story [[DesignatedHero plays them up to be sympathetic]] only adds to their hatedom, as their idiotic parenting and [[ItsAllAboutMe selfish attitudes]] are meant to be seen as positive qualities, when they're anything but.
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With hundreds of Pokémon as well as having a metric crapton of characters, don't be surprised that there will always be [[TheScrappy a character that fans want to check on their cartridges and release them from their game]].
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With hundreds all metric crapton of Pokémon as well as having a metric crapton of and human characters, don't be surprised that there will always be [[TheScrappy a character that fans want to check on their cartridges and release them from their game]].
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Per this, his flaws are intentional/he show remorse over. Also he's more ignored for it than hatedom (unlike the Samurai who has a big presence in the fandom despite them widely hating him.)
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* Melvin the Magician from "The March of the Exeggutor Squad" is well-remembered by fans for all the wrong reasons. He's made out to be a sympathetic, aspiring magician, but throughout the entire episode, he repeatedly takes advantage of Ash and co. for his own gain, including having a hypnotized Ash catch him all of his Exeggutor. The moment that caused Melvin to [[DesignatedHero lose all sympathy from the fanbase]] is when he announces that he plans on using his Exeggutor to [[MassHypnosis hypnotize the entire town]] into visiting his magic show, and even after the Exeggutor go on a rampage in said town, Melvin is still EasilyForgiven by Ash despite how much he used him, which left an extremely bitter taste in fans' mouths.
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* Melvin the Magician from "The March of the Exeggutor Squad" is well-remembered by fans for all the wrong reasons. He's made out to be a sympathetic, aspiring magician, but throughout the entire episode, he repeatedly takes advantage of Ash and co. for his own gain, including having a hypnotized Ash catch him all of his Exeggutors. The moment that caused Melvin to [[DesignatedHero lose all sympathy from the fanbase]] is when he announces that he plans on using his Exeggutors to [[MassHypnosis hypnotize the entire town]] into visiting his magic show, and even after the Exeggutors go on a rampage in said town, Melvin is still EasilyForgiven by Ash despite how much he used him, which left an extremely bitter taste in fans' mouths.
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* Melvin the Magician from "The March of the Exeggutor Squad" is well-remembered by fans for all the wrong reasons. He's made out to be a sympathetic, aspiring magician, but throughout the entire episode, he repeatedly takes advantage of Ash and co. for his own gain, including having a hypnotized Ash catch him all of his Exeggutors. Exeggutor. The moment that caused Melvin to [[DesignatedHero lose all sympathy from the fanbase]] is when he announces that he plans on using his Exeggutors Exeggutor to [[MassHypnosis hypnotize the entire town]] into visiting his magic show, and even after the Exeggutors Exeggutor go on a rampage in said town, Melvin is still EasilyForgiven by Ash despite how much he used him, which left an extremely bitter taste in fans' mouths.
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* Melvin the Magician from "The March of the Exeggutor Squad" is well-remembered by fans for all the wrong reasons. He's made out to be a sympathetic, aspiring magician, but throughout the entire episode, he repeatedly takes advantage of Ash and co. for his own gain, including having a hypnotized Ash catch him all of his Exeggutors. The moment that caused Melvin to [[DesignatedHero lose all sympathy from the fanbase]] is when he announces that he plans on using his Exeggutors to [[MassHypnosis hypnotize the entire town]] into visiting his magic show, and even after the Exeggutors go on a rampage in said town, Melvin is still EasilyForgiven by Ash despite how much he used him, which left an extremely [[KarmaHoudini bitter taste]] in fans' mouths.
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* Melvin the Magician from "The March of the Exeggutor Squad" is well-remembered by fans for all the wrong reasons. He's made out to be a sympathetic, aspiring magician, but throughout the entire episode, he repeatedly takes advantage of Ash and co. for his own gain, including having a hypnotized Ash catch him all of his Exeggutors. The moment that caused Melvin to [[DesignatedHero lose all sympathy from the fanbase]] is when he announces that he plans on using his Exeggutors to [[MassHypnosis hypnotize the entire town]] into visiting his magic show, and even after the Exeggutors go on a rampage in said town, Melvin is still EasilyForgiven by Ash despite how much he used him, which left an extremely [[KarmaHoudini bitter taste]] taste in fans' mouths.
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* Trip is the most consistently disliked of Ash's main [[TheRival rivals]]. He made a bad first impression after defeating a weakened Pikachu with his newly obtained Snivy, which set the stage for Ash's [[TookALevelInDumbass reset]], and annoyed fans with his bland rival dynamic and unexplained [[FantasticRacism classism]] against Kanto. Fans see him as an uninspired rehash of [[AwesomeEgo Gary]] and [[SocialDarwinist Paul]], but without the charisma of the former or the psychological conflict and previously shown skill of the latter that made them interesting. He lorded his victory over Ash, which he only won because [[WorfHadTheFlu Pikachu wasn't able to use any electric attacks]], despite Ash consistently finishing ahead of him in the series' numerous {{Tournament Arc}}s. He also tended to look down on all the other competitors in the tournaments right before one of them inflicted TheWorfEffect on him. This made him look like an extreme SmallNameBigEgo who wasn't nearly as good as he thought he was. Eventually, the writers appeared to catch on, as Trip is [[ShooOutTheNewGuy eliminated in the first round of the Unova League Conference]] with his only appearances afterward being a few silent cameos.
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* Trip is the most consistently disliked of Ash's main [[TheRival rivals]]. He made a bad first impression after defeating a weakened Pikachu with his newly obtained Snivy, which set the stage for Ash's [[TookALevelInDumbass reset]], and annoyed fans with his bland rival dynamic and unexplained [[FantasticRacism classism]] against Kanto. Fans see him as an uninspired rehash of [[AwesomeEgo Gary]] and [[SocialDarwinist Paul]], but without the charisma of the former or the psychological conflict and previously shown skill of the latter that made them interesting. He lorded his victory over Ash, which he only won because [[WorfHadTheFlu Pikachu wasn't able to use any electric attacks]], despite Ash consistently finishing ahead of him in the series' numerous {{Tournament Arc}}s. He also tended to look down on all the other competitors in the tournaments right before one of them inflicted TheWorfEffect on him. This made him look like an extreme SmallNameBigEgo who [[SmugSnake wasn't nearly as good as he thought he was.was]]. Eventually, the writers appeared to catch on, as Trip is [[ShooOutTheNewGuy eliminated in the first round of the Unova League Conference]] with his only appearances afterward being a few silent cameos.
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* Tobias stands out amongst the hatedom of those who defeated Ash in the Pokémon League for the sheer DiabolusExMachina of using a [[OlympusMons Darkrai and Latios]], without an explanation of how he caught a Mythical and Legendary Pokémon. While Ash's other League rivals got plenty of interaction and focus, Tobias only had a few mentions and cameos of buildup, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse disappears after winning, and hasn't been heard from since]]. Thus, he never got the buildup or RuleOfCool that would make him having such rare Pokémon feel legitimate, and seemingly only exists as a WriterCopOut. The CurbStompCushion of Ash defeating Darkrai and Latios when no one else in the region could felt less like a consolation and more like proof that Ash should have simply won the League, as he was clearly skilled enough to do so if not for such absurd circumstances. While the other five trainers who cost Ash the league have some defenders[[note]]Ritchie's battle involved unfair circumstances outside his or Ash's control, which [[CharacterDevelopment motivated Ash to become]] a better trainer, and his reappearances in ''Anime/PokemonChronicles'' won over some viewers; Harrison and Tyson are seen as {{Worthy Opponent}}s who beat Ash in a fair fight (the only thing one could call out as unfair being Harrison using two Pokémon from Hoenn, but it is not as egregious as other fights); Cameron is PluckyComicRelief enjoyed by [[AmericansHateTingle Japanese audiences]], won with the same mid-battle evolution Ash benefited from all season, and was [[CurbStompBattle easily defeated]] in the next round; Alain was a very popular character [[OvershadowedByControversy until the moment of his victory]] and a DeconstructedCharacterArchetype showing why Ash was a superior trainer despite losing to him[[/note]], Tobias has almost none, with the ones who do think that A.) [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter he's a great concept ruined by lack off screentime]] or B.) [[DamnedByFaintPraise Ash beating his Darkrai and Latios while still taking the League loss is a good thing]], and is seen as [[FranchiseOriginalSin the tipping point]] for Ash's inability to win a League going from tolerable to perhaps the most widely reviled part of the series.
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* Tobias stands out amongst the hatedom of those who defeated Ash in the Pokémon League for the sheer DiabolusExMachina of using a [[OlympusMons Darkrai and Latios]], without an explanation of how he caught a Mythical and Legendary Pokémon. While Ash's other League rivals got plenty of interaction and focus, Tobias only had a few mentions and cameos of buildup, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse disappears after winning, and hasn't been heard from since]]. Thus, he never got the buildup or RuleOfCool that would make him having such rare Pokémon feel legitimate, and seemingly only exists as a WriterCopOut. The CurbStompCushion of Ash defeating Darkrai and Latios when no one else in the region could felt less like a consolation and more like proof that Ash should have simply won the League, as he was clearly skilled enough to do so if not for such absurd circumstances. While the other five trainers who cost Ash the league have some defenders[[note]]Ritchie's battle involved unfair circumstances outside his or Ash's control, which [[CharacterDevelopment motivated Ash to become]] a better trainer, and his reappearances in ''Anime/PokemonChronicles'' won over some viewers; Harrison and Tyson are seen as {{Worthy Opponent}}s who beat Ash in a fair fight (the only thing one could call out as unfair being Harrison using two Pokémon from Hoenn, but it is not as egregious as other fights); Cameron is PluckyComicRelief enjoyed by [[AmericansHateTingle Japanese audiences]], won with the same mid-battle evolution Ash benefited from all season, and was [[CurbStompBattle easily defeated]] in the next round; Alain was a very popular character [[OvershadowedByControversy until the moment of his victory]] and a DeconstructedCharacterArchetype showing why Ash was a superior trainer despite losing to him[[/note]], Tobias has almost none, with the ones who do think that A.) [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter he's a great concept ruined by lack off of screentime]] or B.) [[DamnedByFaintPraise Ash beating his Darkrai and Latios while still taking the League loss is a good thing]], and is seen as [[FranchiseOriginalSin the tipping point]] for Ash's inability to win a League going from tolerable to perhaps the most widely reviled part of the series.
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* Melvin the Magician from "The March of the Exeggutor Squad" is well-remembered by fans for all the wrong reasons. He's made out to be a sympathetic, aspiring magician, but throughout the entire episode, he repeatedly takes advantage of Ash and co. for his own gain, including having a hypnotized Ash catch him all of his Exeggutors. The moment that caused Melvin to [[DesignatedHero lose all sympathy from the fanbase]] is when he announces that he plans on using his Exeggutors to [[MassHypnosis hypnotize the entire town]] into visiting his magic show, and even after the Exeggutors go on a rampage in said town, Melvin is still EasilyForgiven by Ash despite how much he used him, which left an extremely [[KarmaHoudini bitter taste]] in fans' mouths.
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* Tobias stands out amongst the hatedom of those who defeated Ash in the Pokémon League for the sheer DiabolusExMachina of using a [[OlympusMons Darkrai and Latios]], without an explanation of how he caught a Mythical and Legendary Pokémon. While Ash's other League rivals got plenty of interaction and focus, Tobias only had a few mentions and cameos of buildup, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse disappears after winning, and hasn't been heard from since]]. Thus, he never got the buildup or RuleOfCool that would make him having such rare Pokémon feel legitimate, and seemingly only exists as a WriterCopOut. The CurbStompCushion of Ash defeating Darkrai and Latios when no one else in the region could felt less like a consolation and more like proof that Ash should have simply won the League, as he was clearly skilled enough to do so if not for such absurd circumstances. While the other five trainers who cost Ash the league have some defenders[[note]]Ritchie's battle involved unfair circumstances outside his or Ash's control, which [[CharacterDevelopment motivated Ash to become]] a better trainer, and his reappearances in ''Anime/PokemonChronicles'' won over some viewers; Harrison and Tyson are seen as {{Worthy Opponent}}s who beat Ash in a fair fight (the only thing one could call out as unfair being Harrison using two Pokémon from Hoenn, but it is not as egrious as other fights); Cameron is PluckyComicRelief enjoyed by [[AmericansHateTingle Japanese audiences]], won with the same mid-battle evolution Ash benefited from all season, and was [[CurbStompBattle easily defeated]] in the next round; Alain was a very popular character [[OvershadowedByControversy until the moment of his victory]] and a DeconstructedCharacterArchetype showing why Ash was a superior trainer despite losing to him[[/note]], Tobias has almost none, with the ones who do think that A.) [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter he's a great concept ruined by lack off screentime]] or B.) [[DamnedByFaintPraise Ash beating his Darkrai and Latios while still taking the League loss is a good thing]], and is seen as [[FranchiseOriginalSin the tipping point]] for Ash's inability to win a League going from tolerable to perhaps the most widely reviled part of the series.
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* Tobias stands out amongst the hatedom of those who defeated Ash in the Pokémon League for the sheer DiabolusExMachina of using a [[OlympusMons Darkrai and Latios]], without an explanation of how he caught a Mythical and Legendary Pokémon. While Ash's other League rivals got plenty of interaction and focus, Tobias only had a few mentions and cameos of buildup, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse disappears after winning, and hasn't been heard from since]]. Thus, he never got the buildup or RuleOfCool that would make him having such rare Pokémon feel legitimate, and seemingly only exists as a WriterCopOut. The CurbStompCushion of Ash defeating Darkrai and Latios when no one else in the region could felt less like a consolation and more like proof that Ash should have simply won the League, as he was clearly skilled enough to do so if not for such absurd circumstances. While the other five trainers who cost Ash the league have some defenders[[note]]Ritchie's battle involved unfair circumstances outside his or Ash's control, which [[CharacterDevelopment motivated Ash to become]] a better trainer, and his reappearances in ''Anime/PokemonChronicles'' won over some viewers; Harrison and Tyson are seen as {{Worthy Opponent}}s who beat Ash in a fair fight (the only thing one could call out as unfair being Harrison using two Pokémon from Hoenn, but it is not as egrious egregious as other fights); Cameron is PluckyComicRelief enjoyed by [[AmericansHateTingle Japanese audiences]], won with the same mid-battle evolution Ash benefited from all season, and was [[CurbStompBattle easily defeated]] in the next round; Alain was a very popular character [[OvershadowedByControversy until the moment of his victory]] and a DeconstructedCharacterArchetype showing why Ash was a superior trainer despite losing to him[[/note]], Tobias has almost none, with the ones who do think that A.) [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter he's a great concept ruined by lack off screentime]] or B.) [[DamnedByFaintPraise Ash beating his Darkrai and Latios while still taking the League loss is a good thing]], and is seen as [[FranchiseOriginalSin the tipping point]] for Ash's inability to win a League going from tolerable to perhaps the most widely reviled part of the series.
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* Misty's three older sisters (Daisy, Lily, and Violet) are hated for their stereotypical BrainlessBeauty nature, neglect towards Misty, and complete lack of work ethic in spite of their positions as Gym Leaders. The final nail in the coffin came when they shirked their responsibilities and left for a cruise ''immediately'' before a Gym inspection; this forced Misty to leave Ash's group, making them the in-universe reason for her leaving the show, giving Misty the dubious honor of being the only trainer to not leave Ash's group willingly.[[note]]While Max and Bonnie didn't leave Ash's group of their own volition, neither of them is old enough to be a Pokémon Trainer. Max and Bonnie were only allowed to travel with Ash due to the presence of their older siblings (May and Clemont, respectively), thus making their forced departure more justified.[[/note]] While ''Anime/PokemonChronicles'' would give Daisy some CharacterDevelopment by having her take her Gym Leader duties more seriously, which [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rescued her]] in the eyes of some fans, Lily and Violet are still widely hated by the fandom.
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* Misty's three older sisters (Daisy, Lily, and Violet) are hated for their stereotypical BrainlessBeauty nature, neglect towards Misty, and complete lack of work ethic in spite of their positions as Gym Leaders. The final nail in the coffin came when they shirked their responsibilities and left for a cruise ''immediately'' before a Gym inspection; this forced Misty to leave Ash's group, making them the in-universe reason for her leaving the show, giving Misty the dubious honor of being the only trainer to not leave Ash's group willingly.[[note]]While Max and Bonnie didn't leave Ash's group of their own volition, neither of them is old enough to be a Pokémon Trainer. Max and Bonnie were only allowed to travel with Ash due to the presence of their older siblings (May and Clemont, respectively), thus making their forced departure more justified.[[/note]] While ''Anime/PokemonChronicles'' would give Daisy some CharacterDevelopment by having her take her Gym Leader duties more seriously, which [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rescued her]] in the eyes of some fans, Lily and Violet are still widely hated by the fandom.
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* Misty's three older sisters (Daisy, Lily, and Violet) are hated for their stereotypical BrainlessBeauty nature, neglect towards Misty, and complete lack of work ethic in spite of their positions as Gym Leaders. The final nail in the coffin came when they shirked their responsibilities and left for a cruise ''immediately'' before a Gym inspection; this forced Misty to leave Ash's group, making them the in-universe reason for her leaving the show, giving Misty the dubious honor of being the only trainer to not leave Ash's group willingly.[[note]]While Max and Bonnie didn't leave Ash's group of their own volition neither of them is old enough to be a Pokémon Trainer. Max and Bonnie were only allowed to travel with Ash due to the presence of their older siblings (May and Clemont, respectively), thus making their forced departure more justified.[[/note]] While ''Anime/PokemonChronicles'' would give Daisy some CharacterDevelopment by having her take her Gym Leader duties more seriously, which [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rescued her]] in the eyes of some fans, Lily and Violet are still widely hated by the fandom.
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* Misty's three older sisters (Daisy, Lily, and Violet) are hated for their stereotypical BrainlessBeauty nature, neglect towards Misty, and complete lack of work ethic in spite of their positions as Gym Leaders. The final nail in the coffin came when they shirked their responsibilities and left for a cruise ''immediately'' before a Gym inspection; this forced Misty to leave Ash's group, making them the in-universe reason for her leaving the show, giving Misty the dubious honor of being the only trainer to not leave Ash's group willingly.[[note]]While Max and Bonnie didn't leave Ash's group of their own volition volition, neither of them is old enough to be a Pokémon Trainer. Max and Bonnie were only allowed to travel with Ash due to the presence of their older siblings (May and Clemont, respectively), thus making their forced departure more justified.[[/note]] While ''Anime/PokemonChronicles'' would give Daisy some CharacterDevelopment by having her take her Gym Leader duties more seriously, which [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rescued her]] in the eyes of some fans, Lily and Violet are still widely hated by the fandom.
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* Misty's three older sisters (Daisy, Lily, and Violet) are hated for their stereotypical BrainlessBeauty nature, neglect towards Misty, and complete lack of work ethic in spite of their positions as Gym Leaders. The final nail in the coffin came when they shirked their responsibilities and left for a cruise ''immediately'' before a Gym inspection; this forced Misty to leave Ash's group, making them the in-universe reason for her leaving the show and thus giving Misty the dubious honor of being the only trainer to not leave Ash's group willingly.[[note]]While Max and Bonnie didn't leave Ash's group of their own volition neither of them is old enough to be a Pokémon Trainer. Max and Bonnie were only allowed to travel with Ash due to the presence of their older siblings (May and Clemont, respectively), thus making their forced departure more justified.[[/note]] While ''Anime/PokemonChronicles'' would give Daisy some CharacterDevelopment by having her take her Gym Leader duties more seriously, which [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rescued her]] in the eyes of some fans, Lily and Violet are still widely hated by the fandom.
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* Misty's three older sisters (Daisy, Lily, and Violet) are hated for their stereotypical BrainlessBeauty nature, neglect towards Misty, and complete lack of work ethic in spite of their positions as Gym Leaders. The final nail in the coffin came when they shirked their responsibilities and left for a cruise ''immediately'' before a Gym inspection; this forced Misty to leave Ash's group, making them the in-universe reason for her leaving the show and thus show, giving Misty the dubious honor of being the only trainer to not leave Ash's group willingly.[[note]]While Max and Bonnie didn't leave Ash's group of their own volition neither of them is old enough to be a Pokémon Trainer. Max and Bonnie were only allowed to travel with Ash due to the presence of their older siblings (May and Clemont, respectively), thus making their forced departure more justified.[[/note]] While ''Anime/PokemonChronicles'' would give Daisy some CharacterDevelopment by having her take her Gym Leader duties more seriously, which [[RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap rescued her]] in the eyes of some fans, Lily and Violet are still widely hated by the fandom.
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* The Mewtwo from ''Anime/PokemonGenesectAndTheLegendAwakened''. It is quite unpopular with the fandom for filling a role that many believe could have been filled by the well-loved established Mewtwo character from ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie'' and [[Anime/PokemonMewtwoReturns its sequel]], for having a voice and personality that contrast sharply with said original Mewtwo, for having no explanation as to how a second Mewtwo ''is even possible'', and for generally being the FleetingDemographicRule personified. Even Miriam Pultro, its English voice actress and JustForFun/OneOfUs, [[https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=676840695674582&id=109462092412448 knew that the role would be controversial]]. When Mewtwo returned for ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' and an episode of the ''Journeys'' series, they went with the original portrayal [[ShooOutTheNewGuy instead of this particular one]], and this Mewtwo was PutOnABus permanently with the release of ''Anime/MewtwoStrikesBackEvolution'', a remake of ''Anime/MewtwoStrikesBack''. After the movie was released, it was discovered that this Mewtwo was created due to [[ScrewedByTheLawyers rights issues surrounding the original Mewtwo]] rather than something more oblivious or insidious, and fans criticized the fact that this hadn't been explained in the first place as it would have otherwise been an understandable (if annoying) reason for replacing the character.
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* Trip is the most consistently disliked of Ash's main [[TheRival rivals]]. He made a bad first impression after defeating a weakened Pikachu with his newly obtained Snivy, which set the stage for Ash's [[TookALevelInDumbass reset]], and annoyed fans with his bland rival dynamic and unexplained [[FantasticRacism classism]] against Kanto. Fans see him as an uninspired rehash of [[AwesomeEgo Gary]] and [[SocialDarwinist Paul]], but without the charisma of the former or the psychological conflict and previously shown skill of the latter that made them interesting. He lorded his victory over Ash, which he only won because [[WorfHadTheFlu Pikachu wasn't able to use any electric attacks]], despite Ash consistently finishing ahead of him in the series' numerous {{Tournament Arc}}s. He also tended to look down on all the other competitors in the tournaments right before one of them inflicted TheWorfEffect on him. This made him look like an extremely SmallNameBigEgo who wasn't nearly as good as he thought he was. Eventually, the writers appeared to catch on, as Trip is [[ShooOutTheNewGuy eliminated in the first round of the Unova League Conference]] with his only appearances afterward being a few silent cameos.
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* Trip is the most consistently disliked of Ash's main [[TheRival rivals]]. He made a bad first impression after defeating a weakened Pikachu with his newly obtained Snivy, which set the stage for Ash's [[TookALevelInDumbass reset]], and annoyed fans with his bland rival dynamic and unexplained [[FantasticRacism classism]] against Kanto. Fans see him as an uninspired rehash of [[AwesomeEgo Gary]] and [[SocialDarwinist Paul]], but without the charisma of the former or the psychological conflict and previously shown skill of the latter that made them interesting. He lorded his victory over Ash, which he only won because [[WorfHadTheFlu Pikachu wasn't able to use any electric attacks]], despite Ash consistently finishing ahead of him in the series' numerous {{Tournament Arc}}s. He also tended to look down on all the other competitors in the tournaments right before one of them inflicted TheWorfEffect on him. This made him look like an extremely extreme SmallNameBigEgo who wasn't nearly as good as he thought he was. Eventually, the writers appeared to catch on, as Trip is [[ShooOutTheNewGuy eliminated in the first round of the Unova League Conference]] with his only appearances afterward being a few silent cameos.
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* Tobias stands out amongst the hatedom of those who defeated Ash in the Pokémon League for the sheer DiabolusExMachina of using a [[OlympusMons Darkrai and Latios]], without an explanation of how he caught a Mythical and Legendary Pokémon. While Ash's other League rivals got plenty of interaction and focus, Tobias only had a few mentions and cameos of buildup, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse disappears after winning, and hasn't been heard from since]]. Thus, he never got the buildup or RuleOfCool that would make him having such rare Pokémon feel legitimate, and seemingly only exists as a WriterCopOut. The CurbStompCushion of Ash defeating Darkrai and Latios when no one else in the region could felt less like a consolation and more like proof that Ash should have simply won the League, as he was clearly skilled enough to do so if not for such absurd circumstances. While the other five trainers who cost Ash the league have some defenders[[note]]Ritchie's battle involved unfair circumstances outside his or Ash's control, which [[CharacterDevelopment motivated Ash to become]] a better trainer, and his reappearances in ''Anime/PokemonChronicles'' won over some viewers; Harrison and Tyson are seen as {{Worthy Opponent}}s who beat Ash in a fair fight; Cameron is PluckyComicRelief enjoyed by [[AmericansHateTingle Japanese audiences]], won with the same mid-battle evolution Ash benefited from all season, and was [[CurbStompBattle easily defeated]] in the next round; Alain was a very popular character [[OvershadowedByControversy until the moment of his victory]] and a DeconstructedCharacterArchetype showing why Ash was a superior trainer despite losing to him[[/note]], Tobias has almost none, with the ones who do think that A.) [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter he's a great concept ruined by lack off screentime]] or B.) [[DamnedByFaintPraise Ash beating his Darkrai and Latios while still taking the League loss is a good thing]], and is seen as [[FranchiseOriginalSin the tipping point]] for Ash's inability to win a League going from tolerable to perhaps the most widely reviled part of the series.
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* Tobias stands out amongst the hatedom of those who defeated Ash in the Pokémon League for the sheer DiabolusExMachina of using a [[OlympusMons Darkrai and Latios]], without an explanation of how he caught a Mythical and Legendary Pokémon. While Ash's other League rivals got plenty of interaction and focus, Tobias only had a few mentions and cameos of buildup, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse disappears after winning, and hasn't been heard from since]]. Thus, he never got the buildup or RuleOfCool that would make him having such rare Pokémon feel legitimate, and seemingly only exists as a WriterCopOut. The CurbStompCushion of Ash defeating Darkrai and Latios when no one else in the region could felt less like a consolation and more like proof that Ash should have simply won the League, as he was clearly skilled enough to do so if not for such absurd circumstances. While the other five trainers who cost Ash the league have some defenders[[note]]Ritchie's battle involved unfair circumstances outside his or Ash's control, which [[CharacterDevelopment motivated Ash to become]] a better trainer, and his reappearances in ''Anime/PokemonChronicles'' won over some viewers; Harrison and Tyson are seen as {{Worthy Opponent}}s who beat Ash in a fair fight; fight (the only thing one could call out as unfair being Harrison using two Pokémon from Hoenn, but it is not as egrious as other fights); Cameron is PluckyComicRelief enjoyed by [[AmericansHateTingle Japanese audiences]], won with the same mid-battle evolution Ash benefited from all season, and was [[CurbStompBattle easily defeated]] in the next round; Alain was a very popular character [[OvershadowedByControversy until the moment of his victory]] and a DeconstructedCharacterArchetype showing why Ash was a superior trainer despite losing to him[[/note]], Tobias has almost none, with the ones who do think that A.) [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter he's a great concept ruined by lack off screentime]] or B.) [[DamnedByFaintPraise Ash beating his Darkrai and Latios while still taking the League loss is a good thing]], and is seen as [[FranchiseOriginalSin the tipping point]] for Ash's inability to win a League going from tolerable to perhaps the most widely reviled part of the series.
