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* Throughout the first arc of the second semester it was hinted many times that Ruth and Billie broke up. The second arc not only confirms that, but reveals that Billie moved on to ''Asher''. This isn't going to end well.
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* Throughout the first arc of the second semester it was hinted many times that Ruth and Billie broke up. The second arc not only confirms that, but reveals that Billie moved on to ''Asher''. This isn't going to end well.It's a tear jerker on so many levels: pity for Ruth, of course, that after all they went through together it's over, pity for Billie cause she picked (as someone on Patreon said) 'the worst possible choice that doesn't involve incest', and worry for her all the same because of Asher's mob ties and his role in the kidnapping.
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* Faz doesn't like that he's become Blaine's accomplice in his kidnapping but feels he has no choice because if Blaine goes to jail he and his mother will lose their home.
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* Mike's last words before falling into a coma? You'd expect something relatively tongue-in-cheek or some GallowsHumor, considering his abrasive personality and how even his one-liner before tackling Blaine off the balcony was an IBangedYourMom statement, [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-10/04-is-a-song-forever/wralwys/ but no]], it was a genuine admission that Amber and Ethan were his best friends, and he barely got it out on account of his serious injuries. Amazi-Girl [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness understandably freaks out]] and the strip becomes even more of a tear jerk when it's revealed that those were probably Mike's last words, period.
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* Mike's last words before falling into a coma? You'd expect something relatively tongue-in-cheek or some GallowsHumor, considering his abrasive personality and how even his one-liner before tackling Blaine off the balcony was an IBangedYourMom a YourMom statement, [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-10/04-is-a-song-forever/wralwys/ but no]], it was a genuine admission that Amber and Ethan were his best friends, and he barely got it out on account of his serious injuries. Amazi-Girl [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness understandably freaks out]] and the strip becomes even more of a tear jerk when it's revealed that those were probably Mike's last words, period.
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-->'''Amazi-Girl:''' No! No last words! Those sound like last words! You're being earnest and it's frightening!
-->'''Amazi-Girl:''' No! No last words! Those sound like last words! You're being earnest and it's frightening!
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* After the time-skip Walky returns to his dorm room, and [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-11/01-this-bright-millennium/timestamp/ stares solemnly at Mike's empty loft,]] implying he's still in a coma, or worse.
** Dialogue in the following page confirms the worst: [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-11/01-this-bright-millennium/invited-2/ Mike is dead.]]
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**loft.]] Dialogue in the following page confirms the worst: [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-11/01-this-bright-millennium/invited-2/ Mike is dead.]]
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** Dialogue in the following page confirms it: the worst: [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-11/01-this-bright-millennium/invited-2/ Mike is dead.]]
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* [[https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-10/04-is-a-song-forever/animalcrossin/ "Entertainment, my refuge, how could you betray me"]]
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* Sal is visibly having a breakdown of her own during the convenience store holdup; WordOfGod is that she had no intention of getting away with it and wanted to get caught. That's how thoroughly starved for attention she was.
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Both the tags and the absence of cheek blushes indicate it's AG and not Amber breaking things.
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-->'''Amber:''' Yes, well, Amber needs Amazi-Girl a '''hell''' of alot more than she needs you.\\
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* The reason Faz snuck away to visit Amber at her school is because she's the nicest person to him. We all probably kind of suspect as much (what with having Blaine as a stepfather), but if ''Amber'', who dragged him by the hoodie all day, is the ''nice'' one, what does that say about Faz's home life or social life? And this makes Amber feel more guilty about how she treats him because she thinks there's a not-zero percent chance they're ''half'' siblings. Know what's worse? That may be a lie. Faz had been sent by Blaine to get dirt on Amber so he can contest paying for her tuition. The question is whether he's a willing collaborator or not.
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* The reason Faz snuck away to visit Amber at her school is because she's the nicest person to him. We all probably kind of suspect as much (what with having Blaine as a stepfather), but if ''Amber'', who dragged him by the hoodie all day, is the ''nice'' one, what does that say about Faz's home life or social life? And this makes Amber feel more guilty about how she treats him because she thinks there's a not-zero percent chance they're ''half'' siblings. Know what's worse? That may be a lie. Faz had been sent by Blaine to get dirt on Amber so he can contest paying for her tuition. siblings.
** Thequestion is whether kidnapping arc reveals that he's fully aware of his father's villainy, but helped him out in a willing collaborator or not.crucial moment because if he gets arrested, his family loses a breadwinner.
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-->'''George Warner:''' I--I knew our boy was good.
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* While Becky is inside of her own home, reminiscing her life with her parents, we find out that her mother committed suicide, and it is ''soul-crushing.''
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* [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/troopers/#comment Astonishingly, Becky's dad manages to]] pick up some JerkAssWoobie points when Becky tries to talk him down from [[spoiler:threating her with a gun to bring her home]].
-->'''Becky (in tears):''' [[spoiler:Do you know what this means? It means by the end of the day, state troopers are gonna blow open the back of yer head. Ka-spew! That's the only way this ends. You know that, right?]]\\
'''Ross (also in tears):''' [[spoiler:Satan took your mother from me, and I won't let him take my daughter next. If I have to die for you, Becky, I will die for you]].
-->'''Becky (in tears):''' [[spoiler:Do you know what this means? It means by the end of the day, state troopers are gonna blow open the back of yer head. Ka-spew! That's the only way this ends. You know that, right?]]\\
'''Ross (also in tears):''' [[spoiler:Satan took your mother from me, and I won't let him take my daughter next. If I have to die for you, Becky, I will die for you]].
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* [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/troopers/#comment Astonishingly, Becky's dad manages to]] pick up some JerkAssWoobie points when Becky tries to talk him down from [[spoiler:threating threatening her with a gun to bring her home]].
-->'''Becky (in tears):''' [[spoiler:Dohome.
-->'''Becky:''' ''(in tears)'' Do you know what this means? It means by the end of the day, state troopers are gonna blow open the back of yer head. Ka-spew! That's the only way this ends. You know that,right?]]\\
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'''Ross:''' ''(also intears):''' [[spoiler:Satan tears)'' Satan took your mother from me, and I won't let him take my daughter next. If I have to die for you, Becky, I will die for you]].yo].
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-->'''Becky:''' ''(in tears)'' Do you know what this means? It means by the end of the day, state troopers are gonna blow open the back of yer head. Ka-spew! That's the only way this ends. You know that,
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-->'''Commenter:''' [[spoiler:This has been a genuinely painful arc. We have seen beloved characters hurt and humiliated and brought down to their lowest point. We have seen Dina lay bleeding in the woods, Joyce frozen in fear, her best friend taken from her and Becky brought by gunpoint to the horrible fate she tried to escape. We have seen a very realistic portrayal of power abuse and something that’s a real fear for too many youths.]]
* Carla's expression after [[spoiler: Mary deliberately misgenders her is heartbreaking enough, but after Ruth fails to stick up for her because of Mary threatening to out her and Billie's relationship...]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Carla:''' You do whatever you want. I'm used to being everyone's acceptable loss.]]
* [[spoiler:Ruth in the hospital. Things seem to be going well(ish). Then Ruth and Billie hug, and...]]
* Carla's expression after [[spoiler: Mary deliberately misgenders her is heartbreaking enough, but after Ruth fails to stick up for her because of Mary threatening to out her and Billie's relationship...]]
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-->'''Commenter:''' [[spoiler:This This has been a genuinely painful arc. We have seen beloved characters hurt and humiliated and brought down to their lowest point. We have seen Dina lay bleeding in the woods, Joyce frozen in fear, her best friend taken from her and Becky brought by gunpoint to the horrible fate she tried to escape. We have seen a very realistic portrayal of power abuse and something that’s a real fear for too many youths.]]
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'''Ruth:''' [[spoiler:I I don't want to die I don't want to die I don't want to die. ''(now beginning to cry)'' I don't want to die, ''don't let me die'', please don't ''let me die''.]]
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* The reason Faz snuck away to visit Amber at her school is because [[spoiler:she's the nicest person to him. I mean, we all probably kind of suspect as much (what with having Blaine as a stepfather), but if ''Amber'', who dragged him by the hoodie all day, is the ''nice'' one, what does that say about Faz's home life or social life?]] And this makes Amber feel more guilty about how she treats him because she thinks there's a not-zero percent chance they're ''half'' siblings.
** Know what's worse? That may be a lie. [[spoiler:Faz had been sent by Blaine to get dirt on Amber so he can contest paying for her tuition. The question is whether he's a willing collaborator or not.]]
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-->'''Amber:''' [[spoiler: Yes, well, Amber needs Amazi-Girl a '''hell''' of alot more than she needs you.]]\\
'''Danny:''' [[spoiler: Amber-- Please, just listen to me for a min--]]\\
'''Amber:''' [[spoiler: And make no mistake, she '''did''' needs you. She '''really did.''' She just thought she could trust you to support her more. Or to maybe not '''buckle''' under a light breeze.]]\\
'''Danny:''' [[spoiler: *puts his hand on her shoulder* I'm '''not''' buckling, I'm--]]\\
'''Amber:''' [[spoiler: No, don't touch me. Not ever again.]]\\
'''Danny:''' [[spoiler: '''This is the opposite of buckling! I love buckling! Look at how unhappy I am!''']]
-->'''Amber:''' [[spoiler: Yes, well, Amber needs Amazi-Girl a '''hell''' of alot more than she needs you.]]\\
'''Danny:''' [[spoiler: Amber-- Please, just listen to me for a min--]]\\
'''Amber:''' [[spoiler: And make no mistake, she '''did''' needs you. She '''really did.''' She just thought she could trust you to support her more. Or to maybe not '''buckle''' under a light breeze.]]\\
'''Danny:''' [[spoiler: *puts his hand on her shoulder* I'm '''not''' buckling, I'm--]]\\
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* After being subjected to Roz's [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech incredibly vitriolic rant]] about her previous behavior, Joyce leaves Leslie's class in tears. That's bad enough, but then we see Joyce outside by herself for the first time since [[DateRapeAverted the party]]. [[spoiler: And then it just [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/trauma/ gets worse]] as Joyce starts to see Ryan in place of all the people outside...]]
* The look on Joyce's face and her body language [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/hero-2/ in this strip.]] Poor girl looks like she's edging nearer and nearer to a full blown HeroicBSOD. [[spoiler:Her mother]] pushes her closer and closer [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/sweetie/ in this strip.]] Bonus points for her telling Joyce [[MeaningfulEcho the exact same line]] Ross told Becky when he was pointing a gun at her, no less. What is worse is that David Willis is directly channeling [[http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133847635397/i-dont-talk-to-my-mom-anymore-whenever-we-had his own experiences with his mother.]]
* The look on Joyce's face and her body language [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/hero-2/ in this strip.]] Poor girl looks like she's edging nearer and nearer to a full blown HeroicBSOD. [[spoiler:Her mother]] pushes her closer and closer [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/sweetie/ in this strip.]] Bonus points for her telling Joyce [[MeaningfulEcho the exact same line]] Ross told Becky when he was pointing a gun at her, no less. What is worse is that David Willis is directly channeling [[http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133847635397/i-dont-talk-to-my-mom-anymore-whenever-we-had his own experiences with his mother.]]
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* After being subjected to Roz's [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech incredibly vitriolic rant]] about her previous behavior, Joyce leaves Leslie's class in tears. That's bad enough, but then we see Joyce outside by herself for the first time since [[DateRapeAverted the party]]. [[spoiler: And then it just [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/trauma/ gets worse]] as Joyce starts to see Ryan in place of all the people outside...]]
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* The look on Joyce's face and her body language [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/hero-2/ in this strip.]] Poor girl looks like she's edging nearer and nearer to a full blown HeroicBSOD.[[spoiler:Her mother]] Her mother pushes her closer and closer [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/sweetie/ in this strip.]] Bonus points for her telling Joyce [[MeaningfulEcho the exact same line]] Ross told Becky when he was pointing a gun at her, no less. What is worse is that David Willis is directly channeling [[http://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/133847635397/i-dont-talk-to-my-mom-anymore-whenever-we-had his own experiences with his mother.]]
* The look on Joyce's face and her body language [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/01-to-those-whod-ground-me/hero-2/ in this strip.]] Poor girl looks like she's edging nearer and nearer to a full blown HeroicBSOD.
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* When Sal [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/dumped/ tries to talk casually with Danny]] (when she barely talks casually at all), Danny tells her to go away, [[spoiler:since Amber had just cut all ties with him for talking with Sal moments before]]. Sal looks genuinely hurt in panel 6. It doesn't help that she had admitted to herself that she's afraid of opening up to people [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/pissybaby/ just minutes ago]].
** And in the strip where she talks to herself, the first two panels are heartbreaking as well. Walky tells her in the first panel to not blame him for not being able to talk to family, since he had just given her a chance to. Sal in the second panel is obviously saddened. She ''knows'' she's messed up somehow, but her rough childhood and the mannerisms she got from that ''just won't let her do anything'' about it.
** And in the strip where she talks to herself, the first two panels are heartbreaking as well. Walky tells her in the first panel to not blame him for not being able to talk to family, since he had just given her a chance to. Sal in the second panel is obviously saddened. She ''knows'' she's messed up somehow, but her rough childhood and the mannerisms she got from that ''just won't let her do anything'' about it.
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**ago]]. And in the strip where she talks to herself, the first two panels are heartbreaking as well. Walky tells her in the first panel to not blame him for not being able to talk to family, since he had just given her a chance to. Sal in the second panel is obviously saddened. She ''knows'' she's messed up somehow, but her rough childhood and the mannerisms she got from that ''just won't let her do anything'' about it.
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* Ross's death. Despite all the horrible things he did over the comic's run, nobody wanted him to ''die''. Joyce, who has very justifiable reasons to hate him at this point, can't stop herself from bursting into tears over the death of her best friend's father, and even Becky looks like she's about to cry while she's delivering her last words to him.
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* Part Joyce, part meta: [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/04-vote-for-robin/none/ Joyce]] sings this hymn while skipping church for the first time, in which one can sense her loss of faith...[[https://itswalky.tumblr.com/post/185450907842/this-is-todays-dumbing-of-age-strip-my-mothers the day after]] Willis buried his own mother, whom he was estranged from after he abandoned his fundamentalist upbringing.
-->"Three months ago, I wrote about Joyce grappling with God, but unwittingly wrote my mom’s eulogy."
-->"Three months ago, I wrote about Joyce grappling with God, but unwittingly wrote my mom’s eulogy."
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-->'''Joyce''': Because I '''remember''' your list, and I understand that the game ''wasn't'' just limited t-to ''him''. That ''anybody could be thinking of me as an object. E-even my friends. And that it's seen as a ''harmless joke''. And I'm reminded that I-- I am '''never safe'''. '''[[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre Everything you do matters, Joe. More than you know]]'''.
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-->'''Joyce''': Because I '''remember''' your list, and I understand that the game ''wasn't'' just limited t-to ''him''. That ''anybody ''anybody'' could be thinking of me as an object. E-even my friends. And that it's seen as a ''harmless joke''. And I'm reminded that I-- I am '''never safe'''. '''[[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre Everything you do matters, Joe. More than you know]]'''.
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* While Becky is inside of her own home, reminiscing her life with her parents, we find out that [[spoiler:her mother attempted suicide, and it is ''soul-crushing.'']]
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* While Becky is inside of her own home, reminiscing her life with her parents, we find out that [[spoiler:her mother attempted committed suicide, and it is ''soul-crushing.'']]
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* After Ruth had finally started therapy, [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/02-but-the-sun-still-shines/worth/ she learns that Billie is STILL drinking]], and [[ReasonYouSuckSpeech calls Billie out for denying that she needs help]].
-->'''Ruth''': Just ''days'' ago we were ready to ''die''.\\
'''Billie''': For ''you''. I was ready to die for ''you''.\\
'''Ruth''': Worth dying for. But never worth living for.
-->'''Ruth''': Just ''days'' ago we were ready to ''die''.\\
'''Billie''': For ''you''. I was ready to die for ''you''.\\
'''Ruth''': Worth dying for. But never worth living for.
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* [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/03-sometimes-the-sky-was-so-far-away/richmullins/ Joyce is having a crisis of faith]]. It ends with [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/03-sometimes-the-sky-was-so-far-away/ultimately/ this]] WhamLine.
-->'''Joyce''': You're not really there. You weren't ever really there. Ultimately I'm just talking to myself, like in a dream. (''Wakes up with a'' serious ''case of existential dread'')
-->'''Joyce''': You're not really there. You weren't ever really there. Ultimately I'm just talking to myself, like in a dream. (''Wakes up with a'' serious ''case of existential dread'')
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* [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/03-sometimes-the-sky-was-so-far-away/richmullins/ Joyce is having a crisis of faith]].
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[[caption-width-right:341:"You taste like alcohol."]]
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-->'''Sal''': You fuckin'- You really think this started that day? You really think ''that'' was the beginning? It fuckin' started the day we were born and you came out '''whiter'''.
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** Walky later gets this mild, but seriously harsh, dig in at Dorothy when she tries to invoke YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre [[http://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-8/04-of-mike-and-men/harassing/ to stop his teasing Joyce]].
--->'''Walky''': Or what? You'll stop dating me?
--->'''Walky''': Or what? You'll stop dating me?
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** Know what's worse? That may be a lie. [[spoiler:Faz had been sent by Blaine to get dirt on Amber so he can contest paying for her tuition. The question is whether he's a willing collaborator or not.]]
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* The reason Faz snuck away to visit Amber at her school is because [[spoiler:she's the nicest person to him. I mean, we all probably kind of suspect as much (what with having Blaine as a stepfather), but if ''Amber'', who dragged him by the hoodie all day, is the ''nice'' one, what does that say about Faz's home life or social life?]]
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* The reason Faz snuck away to visit Amber at her school is because [[spoiler:she's the nicest person to him. I mean, we all probably kind of suspect as much (what with having Blaine as a stepfather), but if ''Amber'', who dragged him by the hoodie all day, is the ''nice'' one, what does that say about Faz's home life or social life?]]life?]] And this makes Amber feel more guilty about how she treats him because she thinks there's a not-zero percent chance they're ''half'' siblings.