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** To make things worse the expanded universe material would suggest this incident drove a wedge between Scotty and his family especially his sister because they viewed him as having enticed Peter into joining Starfleet in the first place.
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*** And it recalls a previous [[HeroicSacrifice self-sacrificial action]] on his part, back in "[[Recap/StarTrekS1E29OperationAnnihilate Operation: Annihilate!]]", also with the getting blinded and pitifully bumping into an obstacle, but ''that'' time, he was back on the bridge bantering with Bones that same day...
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*** The quick shift from cocky triumph to mood deflated is extremely shocking when you consider how most Star Trek adventures usually wrap up. For a few seconds it seems to Kirk that Scotty simply managed to fix the engines at the last possible moment, yet another last second miracle from his miracle worker engineer that he'd been pulling off for him for over a decade at that point before realizing that isn't gonna be the case this time.

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*** The quick shift from cocky triumph to mood deflated is extremely shocking when you consider how most Star Trek ''Star Trek'' adventures usually wrap up. For a few seconds it seems to Kirk that Scotty simply managed to fix the engines at the last possible moment, yet another last second miracle from his miracle worker engineer that he'd been pulling off for him for over a decade at that point before realizing that isn't gonna be the case this time.
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*** The quick shift from cocky triumph to mood deflated is extremely shocking when you consider how most Star Trek adventures usually wrap up. For a few seconds it seems to Kirk that Scotty simply managed to fix the engines at the last possible moment, yet another last second miracle from his miracle worker engineer that he'd been pulling off for him for over a decade at that point before realizing that isn't gonna be the case this time.

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* Spock is sweet enough and learned about emotions enough to wish Kirk a happy birthday, but Kirk’s face just falls (as Bones says in the next scene, treating his birthday like it’s a funeral) and checks out when Spock is called away as captain before admitting he’s just going to mope at home.

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* Spock is sweet enough and learned about emotions enough to wish Kirk a happy birthday, but Kirk’s face just falls (as Bones says in the next scene, treating his birthday like it’s a funeral) and checks out when Spock is called away as captain before admitting he’s just going to mope at home.home.
* In the novelization, we spend a few chapters with the POV of the [[DevelopingDoomedCharacters Genesis Project scientists]], and they turn out to be various flavors of EndearinglyDorky TrueCompanions. Khan's rampage through Regula 1 hits ''much'' harder when they're not just nameless {{Red Shirt}}s.
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** And ''Chekov''. "I'm. . . sorry, Admiral." Remember how much Chekov liked and looked up to Kirk throughout The Original Series. . . and now, under mental control by a genetically-engineered madman, he's forced to hold a phaser set to kill on his former commanding officer, mentor, and friend.

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** And ''Chekov''. "I'm. . ."I'm... sorry, Admiral." Remember how much Chekov liked and looked up to Kirk throughout The Original Series. . .Series... and now, under mental control by a genetically-engineered madman, he's forced to hold a phaser set to kill on his former commanding officer, mentor, and friend.
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** The novelization states that while Kirk has felt shock, concern, worry, etc., since the first attack, ''this'' is the moment where he feels pure bone-chilling fear.
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** This is very much Khan's movie as much as anyone else's - Khan's story is one of tragedy, as he simply cannot look past what he lost, and MUST have his vengeance, despite every valid argument from Joachim about abandoning this grudge against Kirk, taking Genesis. Surely Khan's wife, who had been a member of Kirk's crew, would never approve of him chasing Kirk round perdition's flame... But he is so blinded by what he has lost, pinning that loss on Kirk, that he CAN'T give up his quest for vengeance. One gets the feeling that Khan's hope by even the first encounter with Kirk, Khan [[DeathSeeker would have been content with dying]] - just so long [[TakingYouWithMe as Kirk did so with him.]]
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--->'''Spock:''' Space: the final frontier. These are the continuing voyages of the starship ''Enterprise''. [[TheAdventureContinues Her ongoing mission]]: To explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life forms and new civilizations; to boldly go where no man has gone before.

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--->'''Spock:''' Space: the final frontier. These are the continuing voyages of the starship ''Enterprise''. [[TheAdventureContinues Her ongoing mission]]: mission: To explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life forms and new civilizations; to boldly go where no man has gone before.

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* Kirk mourning Spock to his son, self loathing about how he’s always managed to affect a swagger about death up until now. Given that his own death probably wouldn’t have mattered - called out for that in the series and three men had to hold him back from almost certainly killing himself and everyone else - Spock’s death is a GutPunch to a man who’s coped with losses by ignoring them.

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* Kirk mourning Spock to his son, self loathing about how he’s always managed to affect a swagger about death up until now. Given that his own death probably wouldn’t have mattered - called out for that in the series and three men had to hold him back from almost certainly killing himself and everyone else - Spock’s death is a GutPunch to a man who’s coped with losses by ignoring them.them.
* Spock is sweet enough and learned about emotions enough to wish Kirk a happy birthday, but Kirk’s face just falls (as Bones says in the next scene, treating his birthday like it’s a funeral) and checks out when Spock is called away as captain before admitting he’s just going to mope at home.
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** And ''Chekov''. "I'm. . . sorry, Admiral." Remember how much Chekov liked and looked up to Kirk throughout The Original Series. . . and now, under mental control by a genetically-engineered madman, he's forced to hold a phaser set to kill on his former commanding officer, mentor, and friend.

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** And ''Chekov''. "I'm. . . sorry, Admiral." Remember how much Chekov liked and looked up to Kirk throughout The Original Series. . . and now, under mental control by a genetically-engineered madman, he's forced to hold a phaser set to kill on his former commanding officer, mentor, and friend.friend.
* Kirk mourning Spock to his son, self loathing about how he’s always managed to affect a swagger about death up until now. Given that his own death probably wouldn’t have mattered - called out for that in the series and three men had to hold him back from almost certainly killing himself and everyone else - Spock’s death is a GutPunch to a man who’s coped with losses by ignoring them.
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* [[AlasPoorVillain The death of Khan himself.]] First, he and his people lost everything in their [[SarcasmMode "comfortable" exile]], and then Khan himself sees all the rest of his people die in the pursuit of his vengeance, and finally goes down quoting Captain Ahab from ''Literature/MobyDick'': [[FamousLastWords "From Hell's heart, I stab at thee..."]]

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* [[AlasPoorVillain The death of Khan himself.]] First, he and his people lost everything in their [[SarcasmMode "comfortable" exile]], and then Khan himself sees all the rest of his people die in the pursuit of his vengeance, and finally goes down quoting Captain Ahab from ''Literature/MobyDick'': [[FamousLastWords "From Hell's heart, I stab at thee..."]]"
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*** Made all the worse by the fact that, by the time Creator/LeonardNimoy himself died in 2015, he and Creator/WilliamShatner -- who really were friends in real life for many years -- were no longer even on speaking terms.

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*** Made all the worse by the fact that, by the time Creator/LeonardNimoy himself died in 2015, he and Creator/WilliamShatner -- who really were friends in real life for many years -- were no longer even on speaking terms. [[https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/may/20/william-shatner-interview-love-loss-and-leonard-nimoy According to Shatner]], he doesn't know why that happened, and Nimoy's daughter told him "[Nimoy] loved you".
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** For those familiar with ''Literature/ATaleOfTwoCities'': [[HeroicSacrifice 'It is a far, far better thing I do than I have ever done before...']] (*sniff*)

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** For those familiar with ''Literature/ATaleOfTwoCities'': [[HeroicSacrifice 'It is a far, far better thing I do than I have ever done before...']] (*sniff*)']]
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'''[=McCoy=]:''' (voice cracking) Jim... I think you'd better get down here.\\

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'''[=McCoy=]:''' (voice cracking) (''voice cracking'') Jim... I think you'd better get down here.\\



*** Kirk's small, quiet "...no..." as he sits there in Engineering, separated from his best friend for (seemingly) all time. The man is ''broken.''

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*** Kirk's small, quiet [[LittleNo "...no..." "]] as he sits there in Engineering, separated from his best friend for (seemingly) all time. The man is ''broken.''

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** [[DueToTheDead Kirk giving the eulogy]] at Spock's [[BurialInSpace funeral.]] "Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels ... his was the *chokes* most ... human."

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** [[DueToTheDead Kirk giving the eulogy]] at Spock's [[BurialInSpace funeral.]] "Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels ... his was the *chokes* most ... human."funeral]].



---->'''Kirk:''' We are gathered here today to pay final respects to our honored dead. And yet it should be noted, in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world; a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel this sacrifice a vain or empty one, and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this: of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most... human.
*** Kirk's attempt at being TheStoic for the duration of the speech is punctuated by a heart-rending pause as he chokes up on his words, complete with quivering chin and near tears as he desperately maintains his best attempt to be somewhat composed....*sob*

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---->'''Kirk:''' We are gathered here today to pay final respects to our honored dead. And yet it should be noted, in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world; a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel this sacrifice a vain or empty one, and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this: of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the the... (''chokes back tears'') most... human.
'''human'''.
*** Kirk's attempt at being TheStoic for the duration of the speech is punctuated by a heart-rending pause as he chokes up on his words, complete with quivering chin and near tears as he desperately maintains his best attempt to be somewhat composed....*sob*composed...



---->'''Bones:''' "He's not really dead, as long as we remember him."

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---->'''Bones:''' "He's He's not really dead, as long as we remember him."



'''Peter:''' Aye... ''[dies]''
** In a scene deleted from the theatrical version, but put back in the DirectorsCut, Scotty introduces the enthusiastic cadet to Kirk as "My sister's youngest, Admiral. Crazy to get to space!"

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'''Peter:''' Aye... ''[dies]''
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** In a scene deleted from the theatrical version, but put back in the DirectorsCut, Scotty introduces the enthusiastic cadet to Kirk as "My sister's youngest, Admiral. Crazy to get to space!"space!".



-->'''Joachim:''' ''[to Khan]'' Yours is... superior... ''[dies]''\\
'''Khan:''' ''[embracing Joachim's body]'' I shall avenge you.

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-->'''Joachim:''' ''[to Khan]'' (''to Khan'') Yours is... superior... ''[dies]''\\
'''Khan:''' ''[embracing (''embracing Joachim's body]'' body'') I shall avenge you.
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