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[[caption-width-right:1000:The death of Harry Osborn.]]
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[[caption-width-right:1000:The death of Harry Osborn.]]
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** Harry Osborn dies protecting Peter from Otto's attempt to stab both him and Ben, and all Peter can do is hold Harry as the man apologizes for all the things he has done. Despite all the horrible crap that has happened because Harry was desperate for his father's approval, it's obvious that the two of them still saw each other as friends.
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** Harry Osborn dies protecting Peter from Otto's attempt to stab both him and Ben, and all Peter can do is [[DiedInYourArmsTonight hold Harry Harry]] as the man apologizes for all the things he has done. Despite all the horrible crap that has happened because Harry was desperate for his father's approval, it's obvious that the two of them still saw each other as friends.
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*** It's also a meta example, as it's a clear and especially vicious TakeThat at the Marvel editorial members who treat Mary Jane and her marriage to Peter as a CreatorsPest for taking away [[NostalgiaFilter their idea of a young Peter dating a perfect Gwen and being coddled by Aunt May]]. Zdarsky deconstructs that attitude by showing what a Peter who refuses to move on from his youth would look like; a deeply flawed and downright pathetic man losing the things that matter most in favor of selfishly clinging to sanitized memories of his first love and a senile maternal figure that he can't let go of, even if it's for her own good. Thankfully, ''this'' Peter doesn't stay like this and [[CharacterDevelopment grows out of it]].
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Jameson mentions a few pages later that he and John saw each other a few more times afterwards.
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** The one time John visits Jonah in prison goes extremely bad in a heartwrenchingly uncomfortable way. John is trying to reconnect after the Man-Wolf incident (while also being so ashamed of and traumatized by what he became that he can't even bring himself to describe it openly), only for Jonah to devolve into yet another hateful rant against Spider-Man, declaring that the only reason the Wall-Crawler would save John's life is to taunt Jonah. After things explode into an argument and John realizes that Jonah is really just taking out his grief over Joan's death on the hero who saved his life, John storms out without even bothering to say goodbye. That's the last time father and son have any contact before Jonah's death and funeral.
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** The one time John visits Jonah in prison goes extremely bad in a heartwrenchingly uncomfortable way. John is trying to reconnect after the Man-Wolf incident (while also being so ashamed of and traumatized by what he became that he can't even bring himself to describe it openly), only for Jonah to devolve into yet another hateful rant against Spider-Man, declaring that the only reason the Wall-Crawler would save John's life is to taunt Jonah. After things explode into an argument and John realizes that Jonah is really just taking out his grief over Joan's death on the hero who saved his life, John storms out without even bothering to say goodbye. That's the last time father and son have any contact before Jonah's death and funeral.
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** The reason Harry decides to destroy the lab is blind rage and grief after realizing that the fact Norman had a Peter clone made means that all his talk of wanting to reconnect with Harry was bullshit. Norman actually always saw Harry as a "failure" and Peter as someone who could be groomed into a more worthy heir. It breaks the poor guy to realize that nothing he ever does will make his dad care about him as anything more than a pawn to get at Peter, and when his actions subsequently cause Gwen's death, he's broken just that little bit more, crying uncontrollably as he flies away on his glider.
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** MJ is revealed to suffer from no small degree of self-esteem problems due to being made to feel as if she was just "the runner-up" that Peter settled for because "perfect Gwen Stacy" isn't there anymore. This is revealed when she straight admits it during an especially heated argument between her and Peter over the latter's refusal to admit May into a rest home despite the undue stress her condition brings to his family and his inability to care for her due to being Spider-Man. Ouch.
*** It's also a meta example, as it's a clear and especially vicious TakeThat at the Marvel editorial members who treat Mary Jane and her marriage to Peter as a CreatorsPest for taking away [[NostalgiaFilter their idea of a young Peter dating a perfect Gwen and being coddled by Aunt May]]. Zdarsky deconstructs that attitude by showing what a Peter who refuses to move on from his youth would look like; a deeply flawed or even downright pathetic man losing the things that matter most in favor of clinging to sanitized memories of his first love and a senile maternal figure that he can't let go of, even if it's for her own good. Thankfully, ''this'' Peter doesn't stay like this and [[CharacterDevelopment grows out of it]].
** A subtle but notable one; it's around this point in the comic that one will really begin noticing the differences in aging between the non-or-minimally-powered heroes and the superpowered ones. When Peter talks to Thor and Hulk, it becomes downright shocking as you realize how Peter is visibly aging while the two of them look the same, and Peter himself clearly notices it as well.
*** It's also a meta example, as it's a clear and especially vicious TakeThat at the Marvel editorial members who treat Mary Jane and her marriage to Peter as a CreatorsPest for taking away [[NostalgiaFilter their idea of a young Peter dating a perfect Gwen and being coddled by Aunt May]]. Zdarsky deconstructs that attitude by showing what a Peter who refuses to move on from his youth would look like; a deeply flawed or even downright pathetic man losing the things that matter most in favor of clinging to sanitized memories of his first love and a senile maternal figure that he can't let go of, even if it's for her own good. Thankfully, ''this'' Peter doesn't stay like this and [[CharacterDevelopment grows out of it]].
** A subtle but notable one; it's around this point in the comic that one will really begin noticing the differences in aging between the non-or-minimally-powered heroes and the superpowered ones. When Peter talks to Thor and Hulk, it becomes downright shocking as you realize how Peter is visibly aging while the two of them look the same, and Peter himself clearly notices it as well.
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** MJ is revealed to suffer from no small degree of self-esteem problems due to being made to feel as if she was just "the runner-up" that Peter settled for because "perfect Gwen Stacy" isn't there anymore. This is revealed when she straight admits it as much during an especially heated argument between her and Peter over the latter's Peter's refusal to admit May into a rest home despite the undue stress her condition brings to his family and his inability to care for her due to being Spider-Man. Ouch.
*** It's also a meta example, as it's a clear and especially vicious TakeThat at the Marvel editorial members who treat Mary Jane and her marriage to Peter as a CreatorsPest for taking away [[NostalgiaFilter their idea of a young Peter dating a perfect Gwen and being coddled by Aunt May]]. Zdarsky deconstructs that attitude by showing what a Peter who refuses to move on from his youth would look like; a deeply flawedor even and downright pathetic man losing the things that matter most in favor of selfishly clinging to sanitized memories of his first love and a senile maternal figure that he can't let go of, even if it's for her own good. Thankfully, ''this'' Peter doesn't stay like this and [[CharacterDevelopment grows out of it]].
** A subtle but notable one; it's around this point in the comic that one will really begin noticing the differences in aging between the non-or-minimally-powered heroes and the superpowered ones. When Peter talks to Thor and Hulk, it becomes downrightshocking shocking, as you realize how Peter is visibly aging while the two of them look the same, and Peter himself clearly notices it as well.
*** It's also a meta example, as it's a clear and especially vicious TakeThat at the Marvel editorial members who treat Mary Jane and her marriage to Peter as a CreatorsPest for taking away [[NostalgiaFilter their idea of a young Peter dating a perfect Gwen and being coddled by Aunt May]]. Zdarsky deconstructs that attitude by showing what a Peter who refuses to move on from his youth would look like; a deeply flawed
** A subtle but notable one; it's around this point in the comic that one will really begin noticing the differences in aging between the non-or-minimally-powered heroes and the superpowered ones. When Peter talks to Thor and Hulk, it becomes downright
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** Peter has the additional bombshell dropped on him that his secret identity has been blown. Why? Because Ben looking just like him and having his DNA means that everyone thinks his corpse is Peter's. It's bad enough that Peter has to grieve his brother who arguably died because of his own failure to heed Ezekiel's warnings, but Ben's death throws Peter's stable life into chaos.
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** Peter has the additional bombshell dropped on him that his secret identity has been blown. Why? Because blown because Ben looking just like him and having his DNA means that everyone thinks his corpse is Peter's. It's bad enough that Peter has to grieve his brother who arguably only died because of his own failure to heed Ezekiel's warnings, but Ben's death throws Peter's stable life into chaos.chaos.
** When Peter is thought dead because of Morlun murdering Ben, Tony Stark is shown to be bereaved and genuinely upset. He may not have always gotten along with Peter or Spider-Man but at the end of the day he recognized them as good men and respected them deeply as comrades, if not friends. When he subsequently learns Peter is still alive, he's struck with rage and obviously feels betrayed, with an implication that his ultimatum to try and bully Peter into registering is as much fueled by anger at being lied to by someone he trusted as it is lawfulness. An oddly humanizing sequence for a version of Tony that's otherwise rather unsympathetic.
** When Peter is thought dead because of Morlun murdering Ben, Tony Stark is shown to be bereaved and genuinely upset. He may not have always gotten along with Peter or Spider-Man but at the end of the day he recognized them as good men and respected them deeply as comrades, if not friends. When he subsequently learns Peter is still alive, he's struck with rage and obviously feels betrayed, with an implication that his ultimatum to try and bully Peter into registering is as much fueled by anger at being lied to by someone he trusted as it is lawfulness. An oddly humanizing sequence for a version of Tony that's otherwise rather unsympathetic.
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** Benjy's brief appearance shows him walking with cane; the fight with Morlun left him crippled for life.
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** Benjy's brief appearance shows him walking with a cane; the fight with Morlun left him crippled for life.
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** The whole issue is kicked off by Jonah's feud with Spider-Man becoming worse than ever after Dr. Stilwell's death in the crossfire of Spidey and Scorpion's first battle. Unlike in the original comic, here Jonah is haunted by Stilwell's death and blames himself for it, carrying the guilt for the rest of his life and getting Smythe to make the Spider-Slayer out of a twisted sense of penance.
** As the story goes on, it's made more and more clear that the reason Jonah hates Spider-Man so much is the fact that he projects memories of the masked mugger who killed his wife onto the similarly masked Spider-Man, mixed with implied jealousy that ''he'' doesn't have those powers and can't save people like his wife like Spidey can. When confronted about this by Helen during one of his therapy sessions, all of Jonah's bluster instantly disappears and he becomes the frail old man he really is, quietly muttering "don't" before storming out in turmoil over the thoughts of his wife and how he's destroyed what's left of his own family by taking his grief out on a person he barely even knows.
** The one time John visits Jonah in prison goes extremely bad in a heartwrenchingly uncomfortable way. John is trying to reconnect after the Man-Wolf incident (while also being so ashamed of and traumatized by what he became that he can't even bring himself to describe it openly), only for Jonah to devolve into yet another hateful rant against Spider-Man, declaring that the only reason the Wall-Crawler would save John's life is to taunt Jonah. After things explode into an argument and John realizes that Jonah is really just taking out his grief over Joan's death on the hero who saved his life, John storms out without even bothering to say goodbye. That's the last time father and son have any contact before Jonah's death and funeral.
** Jonah has to learn about Gwen's death from Norman Osborn, of all people, who tells him about it to both taunt him and to manipulate him into further hatred of Spider-Man. Jonah fails to realize that and instead takes Gwen's death as validation of his vendetta, so when he subsequently calls Peter to try and express his condolences, it instead disintegrates once again into an anti-Spider-Man rant, leaving Jonah with nothing but yet another burned bridge.
** As the story goes on, it's made more and more clear that the reason Jonah hates Spider-Man so much is the fact that he projects memories of the masked mugger who killed his wife onto the similarly masked Spider-Man, mixed with implied jealousy that ''he'' doesn't have those powers and can't save people like his wife like Spidey can. When confronted about this by Helen during one of his therapy sessions, all of Jonah's bluster instantly disappears and he becomes the frail old man he really is, quietly muttering "don't" before storming out in turmoil over the thoughts of his wife and how he's destroyed what's left of his own family by taking his grief out on a person he barely even knows.
** The one time John visits Jonah in prison goes extremely bad in a heartwrenchingly uncomfortable way. John is trying to reconnect after the Man-Wolf incident (while also being so ashamed of and traumatized by what he became that he can't even bring himself to describe it openly), only for Jonah to devolve into yet another hateful rant against Spider-Man, declaring that the only reason the Wall-Crawler would save John's life is to taunt Jonah. After things explode into an argument and John realizes that Jonah is really just taking out his grief over Joan's death on the hero who saved his life, John storms out without even bothering to say goodbye. That's the last time father and son have any contact before Jonah's death and funeral.
** Jonah has to learn about Gwen's death from Norman Osborn, of all people, who tells him about it to both taunt him and to manipulate him into further hatred of Spider-Man. Jonah fails to realize that and instead takes Gwen's death as validation of his vendetta, so when he subsequently calls Peter to try and express his condolences, it instead disintegrates once again into an anti-Spider-Man rant, leaving Jonah with nothing but yet another burned bridge.
