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* Basically, if you've ever had a tumultuous relationship with your mom, there's a ''lot'' in this movie that's gonna hit home. Especially the scene where Lady Bird and Marion are in the thrift store for prom dresses, and Lady Bird points out that Marion loves her... but she doesn't ''like'' her. Tellingly, Marion won't answer that.
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* Basically, if you've ever had a tumultuous relationship with your mom, there's a ''lot'' in this movie that's gonna hit home. Especially the scene where Lady Bird and Marion are in the thrift store for prom dresses, and Lady Bird points out that Marion loves her...her ... but she doesn't ''like'' her. Tellingly, Marion won't answer that.
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** During one particularly nasty fight, Marion points out that the cost of raising Lady Bird every day is astronomical. Lady Bird demands that Marion "give her a number," and says that once she's found a job that will make her rich, she'll pay her mother back so she never has to speak to her again. To further twist the knife, Marion immediately fires back with a comment about how Lady Bird will never be able to get that kind of job.
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** During one particularly nasty fight, Marion points out that the cost of raising Lady Bird every day is astronomical. Lady Bird demands that Marion "give her a number," and says that once she's found a job that will make her rich, she'll pay her mother back back, so she never has to speak to her again. To further twist the knife, Marion immediately fires back with a comment about how Lady Bird will never be able to get that kind of job.
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*** Doubles as FridgeBrilliance and FridgeHorror if you accept the theory that Marion broke down because [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone she realized she was turning into her own abusive mother.]]
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** During one particularly nasty fight, Marion points out that the cost of raising Lady Bird every day is astronomical. Lady Bird demands that Marion "give her a number," and says that once she's found a job that will make her rich, she'll pay her mother back so she never has to speak to her again. To further twist the knife, Marion immediately comes back with a comment about how Lady Bird will be unable to get that kind of job.
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** During one particularly nasty fight, Marion points out that the cost of raising Lady Bird every day is astronomical. Lady Bird demands that Marion "give her a number," and says that once she's found a job that will make her rich, she'll pay her mother back so she never has to speak to her again. To further twist the knife, Marion immediately comes fires back with a comment about how Lady Bird will never be unable able to get that kind of job.
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* Father Leviatch checking himself into a mental hospital, still grieving over his son. Suddenly the "crying exercise" scene in the drama room [[FunnyAneurysmMoment isn't so funny anymore]].
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* Father Leviatch checking himself into a mental hospital, still grieving over his son. Suddenly the "crying exercise" scene in the drama room [[FunnyAneurysmMoment [[HarsherInHindsight isn't so funny anymore]].
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* An example of happy tears--Lady Bird and Julie ttending the prom together after Lady Bird ditches Kyle, having renewed their friendship. It's a very sweet scene.
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* An example of happy tears--Lady Bird and Julie ttending attending the prom together after Lady Bird ditches Kyle, having renewed their friendship. It's a very sweet scene.
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* Father Leviatch [[spoiler:checking himself into a mental hospital]], still grieving over his son. Suddenly the "crying exercise" scene in the drama room [[FunnyAneurysmMoment isn't so funny anymore]].
** What's even sadder is he ''apologises for crying'' and [[spoiler: tearfully asks Marion not to tell Lady Bird.]]
* Marion dropping Lady Bird off at [[spoiler:the airport, where she's about to leave for New York to go to college. Marion is still incredibly angry right up until Lady Bird leaves, but after Lady Bird's gone, she's overcome with remorse and starts bawling in Larry's arms.]]
** For that matter, when Marion first learns [[spoiler:Lady Bird got into college in New York in the first place, and that her ''husband'' helped her to do it. The scene where she gives Lady Bird the SilentTreatment is ''painful'' to watch. And given Lady Bird's comments, Marion refused to talk to her for ''months.'' It's implied Marion didn't even speak to Lady Bird ''on her eighteenth birthday''.]]
** What's even sadder is he ''apologises for crying'' and [[spoiler: tearfully asks Marion not to tell Lady Bird.]]
* Marion dropping Lady Bird off at [[spoiler:the airport, where she's about to leave for New York to go to college. Marion is still incredibly angry right up until Lady Bird leaves, but after Lady Bird's gone, she's overcome with remorse and starts bawling in Larry's arms.]]
** For that matter, when Marion first learns [[spoiler:Lady Bird got into college in New York in the first place, and that her ''husband'' helped her to do it. The scene where she gives Lady Bird the SilentTreatment is ''painful'' to watch. And given Lady Bird's comments, Marion refused to talk to her for ''months.'' It's implied Marion didn't even speak to Lady Bird ''on her eighteenth birthday''.]]
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* Father Leviatch [[spoiler:checking checking himself into a mental hospital]], hospital, still grieving over his son. Suddenly the "crying exercise" scene in the drama room [[FunnyAneurysmMoment isn't so funny anymore]].
** What's even sadder is he ''apologises for crying'' and[[spoiler: tearfully asks Marion not to tell Lady Bird.]]
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* Marion dropping Lady Bird off at[[spoiler:the the airport, where she's about to leave for New York to go to college. Marion is still incredibly angry right up until Lady Bird leaves, but after Lady Bird's gone, she's overcome with remorse and starts bawling in Larry's arms.]]
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** For that matter, when Marion first learns[[spoiler:Lady Lady Bird got into college in New York in the first place, and that her ''husband'' helped her to do it. The scene where she gives Lady Bird the SilentTreatment is ''painful'' to watch. And given Lady Bird's comments, Marion refused to talk to her for ''months.'' It's implied Marion didn't even speak to Lady Bird ''on her eighteenth birthday''.]]
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* Marion dropping Lady Bird off at
** For that matter, when Marion first learns
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*** Some of these scenes double as FridgeHorror when you realize that [[AbusiveParents Marion's own mother]] was likely just as bad or worse to Marion than she is to Lady Bird in the movie: Marion is turning into her own mother, without the alcoholism. She seems to realize it at the end of the film, which is likely the reason she [[spoiler: [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone breaks down at the end]].]]
* Danny [[spoiler: breaking down and sobbing when he's forced to confront his homosexuality. All Lady Bird can do is hold him.]]
* Danny [[spoiler: breaking down and sobbing when he's forced to confront his homosexuality. All Lady Bird can do is hold him.]]
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*** Some of these scenes double as FridgeHorror when you realize that [[AbusiveParents Marion's own mother]] was likely just as bad or worse to Marion than she is to Lady Bird in the movie: Marion is turning into her own mother, without the alcoholism. She seems to realize it at the end of the film, which is likely the reason she [[spoiler: [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone breaks down at the end]].]]
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* An example of happy tears--Lady Bird and Julie [[spoiler: attending the prom together after Lady Bird ditches Kyle, having renewed their friendship.]] It's a very sweet scene.
** Some sad tears come later when [[spoiler: the two girls go for an all-night walk, discussing their plans for the future. Given that Lady Bird is moving to New York while Julie stays in California, they might not see each other again for months. And remember, this is 2003: Facebook, Skype, unlimited cellular data plans (Lady Bird is specifically told that the phone she's given is strictly for emergencies), and other inexpensive ways to stay in touch face-to-face or voice-to-voice haven't been invented yet. It's implied that they'll stay close, but it's going to be a lot harder when there's a whole country between them.]]
* The scene after Lady Bird and Kyle have sex, and Kyle, who barely seems interested in talking at all, [[spoiler: casually mentions that he can't even ''remember'' how many girls he's been with, despite earlier saying he was a virgin. This was Lady Bird's first time, and she built it up to be something wonderful and special in her head--and now she's been lied to, used, and thrown away.]]
** Some sad tears come later when [[spoiler: the two girls go for an all-night walk, discussing their plans for the future. Given that Lady Bird is moving to New York while Julie stays in California, they might not see each other again for months. And remember, this is 2003: Facebook, Skype, unlimited cellular data plans (Lady Bird is specifically told that the phone she's given is strictly for emergencies), and other inexpensive ways to stay in touch face-to-face or voice-to-voice haven't been invented yet. It's implied that they'll stay close, but it's going to be a lot harder when there's a whole country between them.]]
* The scene after Lady Bird and Kyle have sex, and Kyle, who barely seems interested in talking at all, [[spoiler: casually mentions that he can't even ''remember'' how many girls he's been with, despite earlier saying he was a virgin. This was Lady Bird's first time, and she built it up to be something wonderful and special in her head--and now she's been lied to, used, and thrown away.]]
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* An example of happy tears--Lady Bird and Julie [[spoiler: attending ttending the prom together after Lady Bird ditches Kyle, having renewed their friendship.]] friendship. It's a very sweet scene.
** Some sad tears come later when[[spoiler: the two girls go for an all-night walk, discussing their plans for the future. Given that Lady Bird is moving to New York while Julie stays in California, they might not see each other again for months. And remember, this is 2003: Facebook, Skype, unlimited cellular data plans (Lady Bird is specifically told that the phone she's given is strictly for emergencies), and other inexpensive ways to stay in touch face-to-face or voice-to-voice haven't been invented yet. It's implied that they'll stay close, but it's going to be a lot harder when there's a whole country between them.]]
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* The scene after Lady Bird and Kyle have sex, and Kyle, who barely seems interested in talking at all,[[spoiler: casually mentions that he can't even ''remember'' how many girls he's been with, despite earlier saying he was a virgin. This was Lady Bird's first time, and she built it up to be something wonderful and special in her head--and now she's been lied to, used, and thrown away.]]
** Some sad tears come later when
* The scene after Lady Bird and Kyle have sex, and Kyle, who barely seems interested in talking at all,
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*** Some of these scenes double as FridgeHorror when you realize that [[AbusiveParents Marion's own mother]] was likely ''far worse'' to Marion than she ever is to Lady Bird in the movie (with likely physical abuse thrown in): Marion is turning into her own mother, without the alcoholism; she seems to realize it at the end of the film, which is likely the reason she [[spoiler: [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone breaks down at the end]].]]
*** Marion yelling at Lady Bird for coming home late, pointing out she never thinks about anybody else's feelings and then telling her that [[KickTheDog her father has depression and blaming it on Lady Bird.]]
*** Marion yelling at Lady Bird for coming home late, pointing out she never thinks about anybody else's feelings and then telling her that [[KickTheDog her father has depression and blaming it on Lady Bird.]]
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*** Marion yelling at Lady Bird for coming home late, pointing out she never thinks about anybody else's feelings and then telling her that [[KickTheDog her father has depression and blaming it on Lady Bird.]]
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** What's even sadder is he ''apologises for crying'' and [[spoiler: tearfully asks Mario not to tell Lady Bird.]]
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** What's even sadder is he ''apologises for crying'' and [[spoiler: tearfully asks Mario not to tell Lady Bird.]]
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** For that matter, when Marion first learns [[spoiler:Lady Bird got into college in New York in the first place, and that her ''husband'' helped her to do it. The scene where she gives Lady Bird the SilentTreatment is ''painful'' to watch. And given Lady Bird's comments, Marion refused to talk to her for ''months.'']]'' It's implied Marion didn't even speak to Lady Bird ''on her eighteenth birthday''.]]
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** Some sad tears come later when [[spoiler: the two girls go for an all-night walk, discussing their plans for the future. Given that Lady Bird is moving to New York while Julie stays in California, they might not see each other again for months. And remember, this is 2002: Facebook, Skype, unlimited cellular data plans (Lady Bird is specifically told that the phone she's given is strictly for emergencies), and other inexpensive ways to stay in touch face-to-face or voice-to-voice haven't been invented yet. It's implied that they'll stay close, but it's going to be a lot harder when there's a whole country between them.]]
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** Some sad tears come later when [[spoiler: the two girls go for an all-night walk, discussing their plans for the future. Given that Lady Bird is moving to New York while Julie stays in California, they might not see each other again for months. And remember, this is 2002: 2003: Facebook, Skype, unlimited cellular data plans (Lady Bird is specifically told that the phone she's given is strictly for emergencies), and other inexpensive ways to stay in touch face-to-face or voice-to-voice haven't been invented yet. It's implied that they'll stay close, but it's going to be a lot harder when there's a whole country between them.]]
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** For that matter, when Marion first learns [[spoiler:Lady Bird got into college in New York in the first place, and that her ''husband'' helped her to do it. The scene where she gives Lady Bird the SilentTreatment is ''painful'' to watch.]]
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** For that matter, when Marion first learns [[spoiler:Lady Bird got into college in New York in the first place, and that her ''husband'' helped her to do it. The scene where she gives Lady Bird the SilentTreatment is ''painful'' to watch.]] And given Lady Bird's comments, Marion refused to talk to her for ''months.'']]
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*** Some of these scenes double as FridgeHorror when you realize that [[AbusiveParents Marion's own mother]] was likely ''far worse'' to Marion than she ever is to Lady Bird in the movie (with likely PhysicalAbuse physical abuse thrown in): Marion is turning into her own mother, without the alcoholism; she seems to realize it at the end of the film, if it's which is likely the reason she [[spoiler: [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone breaks down at the end]].]]
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** Some sad tears come later when [[spoiler: the two girls go for an all-night walk, discussing their plans for the future. Given that Lady Bird is moving to New York while Julie stays in California, they might not see each other again for months. And remember, this is 2002: Facebook, Skype, unlimited cellular data plans (Lady Bird is specifically told that the phone she's given is strictly for emergencies), and other inexpensive ways to stay in touch face-to-face or voice-to-voice haven't been invented yet. It's implied that they'll stay close, but it's going to be a lot harder when there's a whole country between them.]]
* The scene after Lady Bird and Kyle have sex, and Kyle, who barely seems interested in talking at all, [[spoiler: casually mentions that he can't even ''remember'' how many girls he's been with, despite earlier saying he was a virgin. This was Lady Bird's first time, and she built it up to be something wonderful and special in her head--and now she's been lied to, used, and thrown away.]]
** Some sad tears come later when [[spoiler: the two girls go for an all-night walk, discussing their plans for the future. Given that Lady Bird is moving to New York while Julie stays in California, they might not see each other again for months. And remember, this is 2002: Facebook, Skype, unlimited cellular data plans (Lady Bird is specifically told that the phone she's given is strictly for emergencies), and other inexpensive ways to stay in touch face-to-face or voice-to-voice haven't been invented yet. It's implied that they'll stay close, but it's going to be a lot harder when there's a whole country between them.]]
* The scene after Lady Bird and Kyle have sex, and Kyle, who barely seems interested in talking at all, [[spoiler: casually mentions that he can't even ''remember'' how many girls he's been with, despite earlier saying he was a virgin. This was Lady Bird's first time, and she built it up to be something wonderful and special in her head--and now she's been lied to, used, and thrown away.]]
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* An example of happy tears- Lady Bird and Julie [[spoiler: attending the prom together after Lady Bird ditches Kyle, having renewed their friendship.]] It's a very sweet scene.
* An example of happy tears- Lady Bird and Julie [[spoiler: attending the prom together after Lady Bird ditches Kyle, having renewed their friendship.]] It's a very sweet scene.
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** During one particularly nasty fight, Marion points out that the cost of raising Lady Bird every day is astronomical. Lady Bird demands that Marion "give her a number," and says that once she's found a job that will make her rich, she'll pay her mother back so she never has to speak to her again. To further twist the knife, Marion immediately comes back with a comment about how Lady Bird will be unable to get that kind of job.
* Danny [[spoiler: breaking down and sobbing when he's forced to confront his homosexuality. All Lady Bird can do is hold him.]]
* The Christmas scene, where Lady Bird, Miguel, and Shelley get socks as presents. You can tell that, despite Marion's brave face and the kids being genuinely thankful, it's painful for everyone involved.
** During one particularly nasty fight, Marion points out that the cost of raising Lady Bird every day is astronomical. Lady Bird demands that Marion "give her a number," and says that once she's found a job that will make her rich, she'll pay her mother back so she never has to speak to her again. To further twist the knife, Marion immediately comes back with a comment about how Lady Bird will be unable to get that kind of job.
* Danny [[spoiler: breaking down and sobbing when he's forced to confront his homosexuality. All Lady Bird can do is hold him.]]
* The Christmas scene, where Lady Bird, Miguel, and Shelley get socks as presents. You can tell that, despite Marion's brave face and the kids being genuinely thankful, it's painful for everyone involved.
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* Father Leviatch [[spoiler:checking himself into a mental hospital]], still grieving over his son. Suddenly the "crying exercise" scene in the drama room [[FunnyAnerysmMoment isn't so funny anymore]].
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** For that matter, when Marion first learns [[spoiler:Lady Bird got into college in New York in the first place, and that her ''husband'' helped her to do it. The scene where she gives Lady Bird the SilentTreatment is ''painful'' to watch.]]
* Basically, if you've ever had a tumultuous relationship with your mom, there's a ''lot'' in this movie that's gonna hit home. Especially the scene where Lady Bird and Marion are in the thrift store for prom dresses, and Lady Bird points out that Marion loves her... but she doesn't ''like'' her. Tellingly, Marion won't answer that.
-->'''Marion:''' I just want you to be the best version of yourself.
-->'''Lady Bird:''' What if this '''is''' the best version?
* Marion dropping Lady Bird off at [[spoiler:the airport, where she's about to leave for New York to go to college. Marion is still incredibly angry right up until Lady Bird leaves, but after Lady Bird's gone, she's overcome with remorse and starts bawling in Larry's arms.]]
** For that matter, when Marion first learns [[spoiler:Lady Bird got into college in New York in the first place, and that her ''husband'' helped her to do it. The scene where she gives Lady Bird the SilentTreatment is ''painful'' to watch.]]
* Basically, if you've ever had a tumultuous relationship with your mom, there's a ''lot'' in this movie that's gonna hit home. Especially the scene where Lady Bird and Marion are in the thrift store for prom dresses, and Lady Bird points out that Marion loves her... but she doesn't ''like'' her. Tellingly, Marion won't answer that.
-->'''Marion:''' I just want you to be the best version of yourself.
-->'''Lady Bird:''' What if this '''is''' the best version?