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The series ''itself'' isn't that depressing, but its post-series movies seem to keep trying to top the last in terms of soul-rendingness. Also, the series has several funny moments. ''Core'' has ''very'' few. We start with Akiko being [[spoiler:merely sick of her fiancee and friends having to run off and do Rider duty]] and the whole thing descending into more and more despair. Does the scene with [[spoiler:Soukichi's ghost at the end]] begin to make up for it?

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The series ''itself'' isn't that depressing, but its post-series movies seem to keep trying to top the last in terms of soul-rendingness. Also, the series has several funny moments. ''Core'' has ''very'' few. We start with Akiko being [[spoiler:merely sick of her fiancee and friends having to run off and do Rider duty]] and the whole thing descending into more and more despair. Does the scene with [[spoiler:Soukichi's ghost at the end]] begin to make up for it?it?
* Really one could look at nearly the whole show in this light. While it's relatively light on characters actually dying, it is at it's heart a Noir detective story so it's full of lies and betrayal and the worst of human nature. Nearly every case has at least one character who seems to be likable but ends up either being driven to madness by a Gaia Memory, or was actually a terrible person all along, or just makes poor choices that end up hurting people they care about and most end with Shotaro typing his report while musing about the darkness in people. It's actively rare for there to be a case to be a without at least one of the seeming sympathetic characters actually turning out to be the criminal to the horror of their friends and family and usually at least one character ends up walking away saddened or disappointed by the outcome.
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** [[spoiler: Also, Daido and company all become very tragic in this. In their first appearance in "A to Z" they were presented as plain evil, and no tears were shed when it turns out they return to death if hit with a Maximum Drive. However, we find out here that they were all every bit as heroic as our main cast at first, but the NEVER process causes you to slowly lose your memories and they'd totally lost themselves by the present day, to be put down like rabid animals without a care since no one knew this. The end!]]



3. Third, the Spider Dopant's special ability is [[spoiler:the Spider Bombs that kill not the victim, but ''the person the victim loves most'', transmitted by the victim's touch.]] Because of this, ''dozens'' of citizens are [[spoiler: suddenly killed in front of, and at the touch of, the people who would suffer most from this happening]], and Soukichi himself can [[spoiler: never be with his daughter Akiko (it'll kill her) or his love interest Melissa (it'll kill ''him'') again.]] Naturally, this all happened on Akiko's birthday. Oh, you know how most MonsterOfTheWeek effects have NoOntologicalInertia? [[spoiler: Not this Dopant. Once infected is forever infected, even with the Spider Memory destroyed (the Dopant memory ''isn't'' the one used in Shotaro's Spider Shock Gadget.)]]. Let’s not forget that Soukichi also and [[spoiler: already made a promise to Akiko to be by her side when she gets married before he got infected]]. \\

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3. Third, the Spider Dopant's special ability is [[spoiler:the Spider Bombs that kill not the victim, but ''the person the victim loves most'', transmitted by the victim's touch.]] Because of this, ''dozens'' of citizens are [[spoiler: suddenly killed in front of, and at the touch of, the people who would suffer most from this happening]], and Soukichi himself can [[spoiler: never be with his daughter Akiko (it'll kill her) or his love interest Melissa (it'll kill ''him'') again.]] Naturally, this all happened on Akiko's birthday. Oh, you know how most MonsterOfTheWeek effects have NoOntologicalInertia? [[spoiler: Not this Dopant. Once infected is forever infected, even with the Spider Memory destroyed (the Dopant memory ''isn't'' the one used in Shotaro's Spider Shock Gadget.)]]. Let’s not forget that Soukichi also and [[spoiler: already made a promise to Akiko to be by her side when she gets married before he got infected]]. \\
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* The entire damn thing of episode 48. [[spoiler: First, you have the first (and possibly only) full appearance of the acoustic version of an ending song, in this case [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome Cyclone Effect]], playing over Shotaro and Philip's last (possible) scene together as Shotaro struggles to cancel the transformation for the last time. Then you have Philip fading away along with the Xtreme Memory, followed by ManlyTears, followed by everyone being depressed, followed by Shotaro getting a goodbye note/gift from Philip telling him to contuine protecting Futo, and for the preview, in order to avert MoodWhiplash, plays "Nobody's Perfect" instead of the opening theme.]]

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* The entire damn thing of episode 48. [[spoiler: First, you have the first (and possibly only) full appearance of the acoustic version of an ending song, in this case [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Cyclone Effect]], playing over Shotaro and Philip's last (possible) scene together as Shotaro struggles to cancel the transformation for the last time. Then you have Philip fading away along with the Xtreme Memory, followed by ManlyTears, followed by everyone being depressed, followed by Shotaro getting a goodbye note/gift from Philip telling him to contuine protecting Futo, and for the preview, in order to avert MoodWhiplash, plays "Nobody's Perfect" instead of the opening theme.]]
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3. Third, the Spider Dopant's special ability is [[spoiler:the Spider Bombs that kill not the victim, but ''the person the victim loves most'', transmitted by the victim's touch.]] Because of this, ''dozens'' of citizens are [[spoiler: suddenly killed in front of, and at the touch of, the people who would suffer most from this happening]], and Soukichi himself can [[spoiler: never be with his daughter Akiko (it'll kill her) or his love interest Melissa (it'll kill ''him'') again.]] Naturally, this all happened on Akiko's birthday. Oh, you know how most MonsterOfTheWeek effects have NoOntologicalInertia? [[spoiler: Not this Dopant. Once infected is forever infected, even with the Spider Memory destroyed (the Dopant memory ''isn't'' the one used in Shotaro's Spider Shock Gadget.)]]. Let’s not forget that Soukichi also and [[spoiler: already made a promise to Akiko to be by her side when she gets married before Soukichi got infected]]. \\

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3. Third, the Spider Dopant's special ability is [[spoiler:the Spider Bombs that kill not the victim, but ''the person the victim loves most'', transmitted by the victim's touch.]] Because of this, ''dozens'' of citizens are [[spoiler: suddenly killed in front of, and at the touch of, the people who would suffer most from this happening]], and Soukichi himself can [[spoiler: never be with his daughter Akiko (it'll kill her) or his love interest Melissa (it'll kill ''him'') again.]] Naturally, this all happened on Akiko's birthday. Oh, you know how most MonsterOfTheWeek effects have NoOntologicalInertia? [[spoiler: Not this Dopant. Once infected is forever infected, even with the Spider Memory destroyed (the Dopant memory ''isn't'' the one used in Shotaro's Spider Shock Gadget.)]]. Let’s not forget that Soukichi also and [[spoiler: already made a promise to Akiko to be by her side when she gets married before Soukichi he got infected]]. \\

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* The Double half and ending of ''Movie War Core''. If you watched ''Double Returns: Eternal'' and thought "how can it possibly get more depressing than this?!"...you ain't seen nothing yet. The Spider Dopant's special ability is [[spoiler:the Spider Bombs that kill not the victim, but ''the person the victim loves most'', transmitted by the victim's touch.]] Because of this, ''dozens'' of citizens are [[spoiler: suddenly killed in front of, and at the touch of, the people who would suffer most from this happening]], and Soukichi himself can [[spoiler:never be with his daughter Akiko (it'll kill her) or his love interest Melissa (it'll kill ''him'') again.]] Naturally, this all happened on Akiko's birthday. Oh, you know how most MonsterOfTheWeek effects have NoOntologicalInertia? [[spoiler: Not this Dopant. Once infected is forever infected, even with the Spider Memory destroyed (the Dopant memory ''isn't'' the one used in Shotaro's Spider Shock Gadget.)]] The series ''itself'' isn't that depressing, but its post-series movies seem to keep trying to top the last in terms of soul-rendingness. Also, the series has several funny moments. ''Core'' has ''very'' few. We start with Akiko being [[spoiler:merely sick of her fiancee and friends having to run off and do Rider duty]] and the whole thing descending into more and more despair. Does the scene with [[spoiler:Soukichi's ghost at the end]] begin to make up for it?
** To add more to it. That Spider Dopant is Soukichi's partner who does lookup for him just like the modern Philip did for Shoutarou, and his nicknamed was Matsu. This incident put a lot of toll on the hard-boiled detective himself in more ways than one. There are a few to consider to from various angles.
--> 1. He wasn't aware of the darkness that lurks within his very close partner.
--> 2. He learns that Spider Memory was already beyond control, meaning doing Memory Break will also kill his partner.
--> 3. He confront Matsu and forced him to dispose the Memory but failed. Matsu reveals the spider special ability , claiming that it was born from his broken heart and afterwards becomes Spider Dopant again before spreading the said ability throughout Fuuto. The rest were explained as above.
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* The Double half and ending of ''Movie War Core''. If you watched ''Double Returns: Eternal'' and thought "how can it possibly get more depressing than this?!"...you ain't seen nothing yet. The Narumi Soukichi/Kamen Rider Skull had quite a toll for it. \\
1. First things first, the enemy is Spider Dopant.\\
2. Second, that Dopant was [[spoiler: Soukichi’s partner, Matsu]]. \\
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Spider Dopant's special ability is [[spoiler:the Spider Bombs that kill not the victim, but ''the person the victim loves most'', transmitted by the victim's touch.]] Because of this, ''dozens'' of citizens are [[spoiler: suddenly killed in front of, and at the touch of, the people who would suffer most from this happening]], and Soukichi himself can [[spoiler:never [[spoiler: never be with his daughter Akiko (it'll kill her) or his love interest Melissa (it'll kill ''him'') again.]] Naturally, this all happened on Akiko's birthday. Oh, you know how most MonsterOfTheWeek effects have NoOntologicalInertia? [[spoiler: Not this Dopant. Once infected is forever infected, even with the Spider Memory destroyed (the Dopant memory ''isn't'' the one used in Shotaro's Spider Shock Gadget.)]] )]]. Let’s not forget that Soukichi also and [[spoiler: already made a promise to Akiko to be by her side when she gets married before Soukichi got infected]]. \\
The series ''itself'' isn't that depressing, but its post-series movies seem to keep trying to top the last in terms of soul-rendingness. Also, the series has several funny moments. ''Core'' has ''very'' few. We start with Akiko being [[spoiler:merely sick of her fiancee and friends having to run off and do Rider duty]] and the whole thing descending into more and more despair. Does the scene with [[spoiler:Soukichi's ghost at the end]] begin to make up for it?
** To add more to it. That Spider Dopant is Soukichi's partner who does lookup for him just like the modern Philip did for Shoutarou, and his nicknamed was Matsu. This incident put a lot of toll on the hard-boiled detective himself in more ways than one. There are a few to consider to from various angles.
--> 1. He wasn't aware of the darkness that lurks within his very close partner.
--> 2. He learns that Spider Memory was already beyond control, meaning doing Memory Break will also kill his partner.
--> 3. He confront Matsu and forced him to dispose the Memory but failed. Matsu reveals the spider special ability , claiming that it was born from his broken heart and afterwards becomes Spider Dopant again before spreading the said ability throughout Fuuto. The rest were explained as above.
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** To add more to it. That Spider Dopant is Soukichi's partner who does lookup for him just like the modern Philip did for Shoutarou, and his nicknamed was Matsu. This incident put a lot of toll on the hard-boiled detective himself in more ways than one. There are a few to consider to from various angles.
--> 1. He wasn't aware of the darkness that lurks within his very close partner.
--> 2. He learns that Spider Memory was already beyond control, meaning doing Memory Break will also kill his partner.
--> 3. He confront Matsu and forced him to dispose the Memory but failed. Matsu reveals the spider special ability , claiming that it was born from his broken heart and afterwards becomes Spider Dopant again before spreading the said ability throughout Fuuto. The rest were explained as above.
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* The Bird Dopant arc (starting from Episode 17) lands some heavy blows. [[spoiler:First, teenagers doing a direct injection of a Gaia Memory that is not meant for them AND without having a bio-communication port. Second, we learn that Kirihiko (Nasca Dopant, Gaia Memory Dealer) is suffering a slow death due to his memory achieving Level 2. Oh, the second shouldn't count? Then the third will change your mind: Shotaro as [=FangJoker=] tells him he is making the city he loves so much cry, and that is more than enough to have him go through a change of heart, to the point he helps Double eject and destroy the Bird Dopant's Gaia Memory and soon gives a present he promised to Shotaro (To those wondering: Fuuto's Mascot Keychain) and asked him to protect the city. And the fourth and last point is that he is killed by his very wife, Saeko, on top of the building, with the last minutes of his life alone, enjoying the winds that blesses the city.]]

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* The Bird Dopant arc (starting from Episode 17) (Episodes 17-18) lands some heavy blows. [[spoiler:First, teenagers doing a direct injection of a Gaia Memory that is not meant for them AND without having a bio-communication port. Second, we learn that Kirihiko (Nasca Dopant, Gaia Memory Dealer) is suffering a slow death due to his memory achieving Level 2. Oh, the second shouldn't count? Then the third will change your mind: Shotaro as [=FangJoker=] tells him he is making the city he loves so much cry, and that is more than enough to have him go through a change of heart, to the point he helps Double eject and destroy the Bird Dopant's Gaia Memory and soon gives a present he promised to Shotaro (To those wondering: Fuuto's Mascot Keychain) and asked him to protect the city. And the fourth and last point is that he is killed by his very wife, Saeko, on top of the building, with the last minutes of his life alone, enjoying the winds that blesses the city.]]



** On top of that, When Akira [[spoiler learns the truth about Philip, we see Shotaro despondently wandering over to one of his partner's whiteboards and find out he's been unable to erase the Charmin'''g Rave'''n clue from it. Before the camera cuts back to Akira we clearly see Shotaro about to break down crying over the loss of his partner and best friend.]]

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** On top of that, When Akira [[spoiler learns [[spoiler:learns the truth about Philip, we see Shotaro despondently wandering over to one of his partner's whiteboards and find out he's been unable to erase the Charmin'''g Rave'''n clue from it. Before the camera cuts back to Akira we clearly see Shotaro about to break down crying over the loss of his partner and best friend.]]

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* Soukichi's Death, partly because how utterly out of nowhere it comes. He gets shot to death by Museum thugs and with his last actions puts his damaged fedora on his pupil Shotaro as said pupil screams in grief. On top of that, the Taboo Dopant busting through the floor causes his body to fall into the hole she made, preventing it from even being retrieved by his loved ones for a proper burial. Oh, and this also happens in ''Episode 1, before the show's been running for even a minute.'' The only thing keeping this from being a DownerBeginning is the fact that Shotaro and Philip become Double for the first time during this sequence and escape in a spectacular way before going on to be the absolute ''biggest'' thorn in Museum's side.
* The Bird Dopant arc (starting from Episode 17) lands some heavy blows. [[spoiler:First, teenagers doing a direct injection of a Gaia Memory that is not meant by them AND without having a bio-communication port. Second we learn that Kirihiko (Nasca Dopant, Gaia Memory Dealer) is suffering a slow death due to his memory achieving Level 2. Oh, the second shouldn't count? Then the third will change your mind: [=FangJoker=] tells him he is making the city he loved so much cry, and that is more than enough to having him go through a change of heart, to the point he helps Double eject and destroy the Bird Dopant's Gaia Memory and soon gives a present he promised to Shotaro (To those wondering: Fuuto's Mascot Keychain) and asked him to protect the city. And the fourth and last point is that he is killed by his very wife, Saeko, on top of the building, enjoying the last minutes of his life with the winds that blesses the city.]]

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* Soukichi's Death, death, partly because how utterly out of nowhere it comes. He gets shot to death by Museum thugs and with his last actions puts his damaged fedora on his pupil Shotaro as said pupil screams in grief. On top of that, the Taboo Dopant busting through the floor causes his body to fall into the hole she made, preventing it from even being retrieved by his loved ones for a proper burial. Oh, and this also happens in ''Episode 1, before the show's been running for even a minute.'' The only thing keeping this from being a DownerBeginning is the fact that Shotaro and Philip become Double for the first time during this sequence and escape in a spectacular way before going on to be the absolute ''biggest'' thorn in Museum's side.
* The Bird Dopant arc (starting from Episode 17) lands some heavy blows. [[spoiler:First, teenagers doing a direct injection of a Gaia Memory that is not meant by for them AND without having a bio-communication port. Second Second, we learn that Kirihiko (Nasca Dopant, Gaia Memory Dealer) is suffering a slow death due to his memory achieving Level 2. Oh, the second shouldn't count? Then the third will change your mind: Shotaro as [=FangJoker=] tells him he is making the city he loved loves so much cry, and that is more than enough to having have him go through a change of heart, to the point he helps Double eject and destroy the Bird Dopant's Gaia Memory and soon gives a present he promised to Shotaro (To those wondering: Fuuto's Mascot Keychain) and asked him to protect the city. And the fourth and last point is that he is killed by his very wife, Saeko, on top of the building, enjoying with the last minutes of his life with alone, enjoying the winds that blesses the city.]]



** On top of that, When Akira [[spoiler: learns the truth about Philip, we see Shotaro despondently wandering over to one of his partner's whiteboards and find out he's been unable to erase the Charming Raven clue from it. Before the camera cuts back to Akira we clearly see Shotaro about to break down crying over the loss of his partner and best friend.]]
** [[spoiler: Shotaro's seeming death is one of the cruelest BaitAndSwitch moments in Kamen Rider history. The moment itself happens right before a commercial break so, for at least a few agonizing minutes, children watching across Japan had to cope with the idea that ''both of their heroes were dead''. Thankfully the tears become happy when it's revealed in short order that Shotaro was saved by the Xtreme Memory and that Philip's ''back''. It also unfortunately leads to the above moment of Wakana's Gaia Impact.]]

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** On top of that, When Akira [[spoiler: [[spoiler learns the truth about Philip, we see Shotaro despondently wandering over to one of his partner's whiteboards and find out he's been unable to erase the Charming Raven Charmin'''g Rave'''n clue from it. Before the camera cuts back to Akira we clearly see Shotaro about to break down crying over the loss of his partner and best friend.]]
** [[spoiler: Shotaro's seeming death is one of the cruelest BaitAndSwitch moments in Kamen Rider ''Kamen Rider'' history. The moment itself happens right before a commercial break so, for at least a few agonizing minutes, children watching across Japan had to cope with the idea that ''both of their heroes were dead''. Thankfully Thankfully, the tears become happy [[TearsOfJoy happy]] when it's revealed in short order that Shotaro was saved by the Xtreme Memory and that Philip's ''back''. It also unfortunately leads to the above moment of Wakana's Gaia Impact.]]



* The flashbacks in Episode 46. [[spoiler:Seeing the Sonozaki clan as a genuinely happy family, knowing how far they've fallen is ''grueling.'']]
* The Double half and ending of ''Movie War Core''. If you watched ''Double Returns: Eternal'' and thought "how can it possibly get more depressing than this?!" you ain't seen nothing yet. The Spider Dopant's special ability is [[spoiler: Spider Bombs that kill not the victim, but the person the victim loves most, transmitted by the victim's touch.]] Because of this, ''dozens'' of citizens are [[spoiler: suddenly killed in front of, and at the touch of, the people who would suffer most from this happening]], and Soukichi himself can [[spoiler: never be with his daughter Akiko (it'll kill her) or his love interest Melissa (it'll kill him) again.]] Naturally, this all happened on Akiko's birthday. Oh, you know how most MonsterOfTheWeek effects have NoOntologicalInertia? [[spoiler: Not so with these. Once infected is forever infected, even with the Spider Memory destroyed (the Dopant memory ''isn't'' the one used in Shotaro's grappling thingy.)]] The series ''itself'' isn't that depressing but its post-series movies seem to keep trying to top the last in terms of soul-rendingness. Also, the series has several funny moments. Core has ''very'' few. We start with Akiko being [[spoiler: merely sick of her fiancee and friends having to run off and do Rider duty]] and the whole thing descending into more and more despair. Does the scene with [[spoiler: Soukichi's ghost at the end]] begin to make up for it?

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* The flashbacks in Episode 46. [[spoiler:Seeing the Sonozaki clan as a genuinely happy family, knowing how far they've fallen is ''grueling.'']]
''grueling''.]]
* The Double half and ending of ''Movie War Core''. If you watched ''Double Returns: Eternal'' and thought "how can it possibly get more depressing than this?!" this?!"...you ain't seen nothing yet. The Spider Dopant's special ability is [[spoiler: [[spoiler:the Spider Bombs that kill not the victim, but the ''the person the victim loves most, most'', transmitted by the victim's touch.]] Because of this, ''dozens'' of citizens are [[spoiler: suddenly killed in front of, and at the touch of, the people who would suffer most from this happening]], and Soukichi himself can [[spoiler: never [[spoiler:never be with his daughter Akiko (it'll kill her) or his love interest Melissa (it'll kill him) ''him'') again.]] Naturally, this all happened on Akiko's birthday. Oh, you know how most MonsterOfTheWeek effects have NoOntologicalInertia? [[spoiler: Not so with these. this Dopant. Once infected is forever infected, even with the Spider Memory destroyed (the Dopant memory ''isn't'' the one used in Shotaro's grappling thingy.Spider Shock Gadget.)]] The series ''itself'' isn't that depressing depressing, but its post-series movies seem to keep trying to top the last in terms of soul-rendingness. Also, the series has several funny moments. Core ''Core'' has ''very'' few. We start with Akiko being [[spoiler: merely [[spoiler:merely sick of her fiancee and friends having to run off and do Rider duty]] and the whole thing descending into more and more despair. Does the scene with [[spoiler: Soukichi's [[spoiler:Soukichi's ghost at the end]] begin to make up for it?it?
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** [[spoiler: Shotaro's seeming death is one of the cruelest BaitAndSwitch moments in Kamen Rider history. The moment itself happens right before a commercial break so, for at least a few agonizing moments, children watching across Japan had to cope with the idea that ''both of their heroes were dead''. Thankfully the tears become happy when it's revealed in short order that Shotaro was saved by the Xtreme Memory and that Philip's ''back''. It also unfortunately leads to the above moment of Wakana's Gaia Impact.]]

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** [[spoiler: Shotaro's seeming death is one of the cruelest BaitAndSwitch moments in Kamen Rider history. The moment itself happens right before a commercial break so, for at least a few agonizing moments, minutes, children watching across Japan had to cope with the idea that ''both of their heroes were dead''. Thankfully the tears become happy when it's revealed in short order that Shotaro was saved by the Xtreme Memory and that Philip's ''back''. It also unfortunately leads to the above moment of Wakana's Gaia Impact.]]
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** [[spoiler: Shotaro's seeming death is one of the cruelest FakeOut moments in Kamen Rider history. The moment itself happens right before a commercial break so, for at least a few agonizing moments, children watching across Japan had to cope with the idea that ''both of their heroes were dead''. Thankfully the tears become happy when it's revealed in short order that Shotaro was saved by the Xtreme Memory and that Philip's ''back''. It also unfortunately leads to the above moment of Wakana's Gaia Impact.]]

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** [[spoiler: Shotaro's seeming death is one of the cruelest FakeOut BaitAndSwitch moments in Kamen Rider history. The moment itself happens right before a commercial break so, for at least a few agonizing moments, children watching across Japan had to cope with the idea that ''both of their heroes were dead''. Thankfully the tears become happy when it's revealed in short order that Shotaro was saved by the Xtreme Memory and that Philip's ''back''. It also unfortunately leads to the above moment of Wakana's Gaia Impact.]]
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** On top of that, When Akira [[spoiler: learns the truth about Philip, we see Shotaro despondently wandering over to one of his partner's whiteboards and find out he's been unable to erase the Charming Raven clue from it. Before the camera cuts back to Akira we clearly see Shotaro about to break down crying over the loss of his partner and best friend.]]
** [[spoiler: Shotaro's seeming death is one of the cruelest FakeOut moments in Kamen Rider history. The moment itself happens right before a commercial break so, for at least a few agonizing moments, children watching across Japan had to cope with the idea that ''both of their heroes were dead''. Thankfully the tears become happy when it's revealed in short order that Shotaro was saved by the Xtreme Memory and that Philip's ''back''. It also unfortunately leads to the above moment of Wakana's Gaia Impact.]]
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* Soukichi's Death, partly because how utterly out of nowhere it comes. He gets shot to death by Museum thugs and with his last actions puts his damaged fedora on his pupil Shotaro as said pupil screams in grief. On top of that, the Taboo Dopant busting through the floor causes his body to fall into the hole she made, preventing it from even being retrieved by his loved ones for a proper burial. Oh, and this also happens in ''Episode 1, before the show's been running for even a minute.'' The only thing keeping this from being a DownerBeginning is the fact that Shotaro and Philip become Double for the first time during this sequence and escape in a spectacular way before going on to be the absolute ''biggest'' thorn in Museum's side.
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* The entire damn thing of episode 48. [[spoiler: First, you have the first (and possibly only) full appearance of the acoustic version of an ending song, in this case [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome Cyclone Effect]], playing over Shotaro and Philip's last (possible) scene together as Shotaro struggles to cancel the transformation for the last time. Then you have Philip fading away along with the Xtreme Memory, followed by ManlyTears, followed by everyone being depressed, followed by Shotaro getting a goodbye note/gift from Philip telling him to contuine protecting Futo, and for the preview, in order to avert MoodWhiplash, plays Nobody's Perfect instead of the usual W-B-X.]]

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* The entire damn thing of episode 48. [[spoiler: First, you have the first (and possibly only) full appearance of the acoustic version of an ending song, in this case [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome Cyclone Effect]], playing over Shotaro and Philip's last (possible) scene together as Shotaro struggles to cancel the transformation for the last time. Then you have Philip fading away along with the Xtreme Memory, followed by ManlyTears, followed by everyone being depressed, followed by Shotaro getting a goodbye note/gift from Philip telling him to contuine protecting Futo, and for the preview, in order to avert MoodWhiplash, plays Nobody's Perfect "Nobody's Perfect" instead of the usual W-B-X.opening theme.]]



* ''Double Returns: Eternal Chapter has'' [[spoiler:Daido Katsumi coming upon the slaughtered Quark subjects he failed to save, a sight so horrific that he's DrivenToMadness by it. After watching that, TheMovie becomes a lot more of a TearJerker...]]
* The flashbacks of episode 46 of [[spoiler: the Sonozakis being an actual happy family and knowing how far they fallen]].
* The Double half and ending of Movie Wars Core. If you watched Eternal and thought "how can it possibly get more depressing than this?!" you ain't seen nothing yet. The Spider Dopant's special ability is [[spoiler: Spider Bombs that kill not the victim, but the person the victim loves most, transmitted by the victim's touch.]] Because of this, ''dozens'' of citizens are [[spoiler: suddenly killed in front of, and at the touch of, the people who would suffer most from this happening]], and Soukichi himself can [[spoiler: never be with his daughter Akiko (it'll kill her) or his love interest Melissa (it'll kill him) again.]] Naturally, this all happened on Akiko's birthday. Oh, you know how most MonsterOfTheWeek effects have NoOntologicalInertia? [[spoiler: Not so with these. Once infected is forever infected, even with the Spider Memory destroyed (the Dopant memory ''isn't'' the one used in Shotaro's grappling thingy.)]] The series ''itself'' isn't that depressing but its post-series movies seem to keep trying to top the last in terms of soul-rendingness. Also, the series has several funny moments. Core has ''very'' few. We start with Akiko being [[spoiler: merely sick of her fiancee and friends having to run off and do Rider duty]] and the whole thing descending into more and more despair. Does the scene with [[spoiler: Soukichi's ghost at the end]] begin to make up for it?

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* ''Double Returns: Eternal Chapter has'' Eternal'' has [[spoiler:Daido Katsumi coming upon the slaughtered Quark subjects he failed to save, a sight so horrific that he's DrivenToMadness by it. After watching that, TheMovie becomes a lot more of a TearJerker...]]
* The flashbacks of episode 46 of [[spoiler: in Episode 46. [[spoiler:Seeing the Sonozakis being an actual Sonozaki clan as a genuinely happy family and family, knowing how far they fallen]].
they've fallen is ''grueling.'']]
* The Double half and ending of Movie Wars Core. ''Movie War Core''. If you watched Eternal ''Double Returns: Eternal'' and thought "how can it possibly get more depressing than this?!" you ain't seen nothing yet. The Spider Dopant's special ability is [[spoiler: Spider Bombs that kill not the victim, but the person the victim loves most, transmitted by the victim's touch.]] Because of this, ''dozens'' of citizens are [[spoiler: suddenly killed in front of, and at the touch of, the people who would suffer most from this happening]], and Soukichi himself can [[spoiler: never be with his daughter Akiko (it'll kill her) or his love interest Melissa (it'll kill him) again.]] Naturally, this all happened on Akiko's birthday. Oh, you know how most MonsterOfTheWeek effects have NoOntologicalInertia? [[spoiler: Not so with these. Once infected is forever infected, even with the Spider Memory destroyed (the Dopant memory ''isn't'' the one used in Shotaro's grappling thingy.)]] The series ''itself'' isn't that depressing but its post-series movies seem to keep trying to top the last in terms of soul-rendingness. Also, the series has several funny moments. Core has ''very'' few. We start with Akiko being [[spoiler: merely sick of her fiancee and friends having to run off and do Rider duty]] and the whole thing descending into more and more despair. Does the scene with [[spoiler: Soukichi's ghost at the end]] begin to make up for it?
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* Bird Dopant arc (starting from Episode 17) lands some heavy blows. [[spoiler:First, teenagers doing a direct injection of a Gaia Memory that is not meant by them AND without having a bio-communication port. Second we learn that Kirihiko (Nasca Dopant, Gaia Memory Dealer) is suffering a slow death due to his memory achieving Level 2. Oh, the second shouldn't count? Then the third will change your mind: [=FangJoker=] tells him he is making the city he loved so much cry, and that is more than enough to having him go through a change of heart, to the point he helps Double eject and destroy the Bird Dopant's Gaia Memory and soon gives a present he promised to Shotaro (To those wondering: Fuuto's Mascot Keychain) and asked him to protect the city. And the fourth and last point is that he is killed by his very wife, Saeko, on top of the building, enjoying the last minutes of his life with the winds that blesses the city.]]

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* The Bird Dopant arc (starting from Episode 17) lands some heavy blows. [[spoiler:First, teenagers doing a direct injection of a Gaia Memory that is not meant by them AND without having a bio-communication port. Second we learn that Kirihiko (Nasca Dopant, Gaia Memory Dealer) is suffering a slow death due to his memory achieving Level 2. Oh, the second shouldn't count? Then the third will change your mind: [=FangJoker=] tells him he is making the city he loved so much cry, and that is more than enough to having him go through a change of heart, to the point he helps Double eject and destroy the Bird Dopant's Gaia Memory and soon gives a present he promised to Shotaro (To those wondering: Fuuto's Mascot Keychain) and asked him to protect the city. And the fourth and last point is that he is killed by his very wife, Saeko, on top of the building, enjoying the last minutes of his life with the winds that blesses the city.]]
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* Bird Dopant arc (starting from Episode 17) lands some heavy blows. [[spoiler:First, teenagers doing a direct injection of a Gaia Memory that is not meant by them AND without having a bio-communication port. Second we learn that Kirihiko (Nasca Dopant, Gaia Memory Dealer) is suffering a slow death due to his memory achieving Level 2. Oh, the second shouldn't count? Then the third will change your mind: FangJoker tells him he is making the city he loved so much cry, and that is more than enough to having him go through a change of heart, to the point he helps Double eject and destroy the Bird Dopant's Gaia Memory and soon gives a present he promised to Shotaro (To those wondering: Fuuto's Mascot Keychain) and asked him to protect the city. And the fourth and last point is that he is killed by his very wife, Saeko, on top of the building, enjoying the last minutes of his life with the winds that blesses the city.]]

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* Bird Dopant arc (starting from Episode 17) lands some heavy blows. [[spoiler:First, teenagers doing a direct injection of a Gaia Memory that is not meant by them AND without having a bio-communication port. Second we learn that Kirihiko (Nasca Dopant, Gaia Memory Dealer) is suffering a slow death due to his memory achieving Level 2. Oh, the second shouldn't count? Then the third will change your mind: FangJoker [=FangJoker=] tells him he is making the city he loved so much cry, and that is more than enough to having him go through a change of heart, to the point he helps Double eject and destroy the Bird Dopant's Gaia Memory and soon gives a present he promised to Shotaro (To those wondering: Fuuto's Mascot Keychain) and asked him to protect the city. And the fourth and last point is that he is killed by his very wife, Saeko, on top of the building, enjoying the last minutes of his life with the winds that blesses the city.]]
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* Bird Dopant arc (starting from Episode 17) lands some heavy blows. [[spoiler:First, teenagers doing a direct injection of a Gaia Memory that is not meant by them AND without having a bio-communication port. Second we learn that Kirihiko (Nasca Dopant, Gaia Memory Dealer) is suffering a slow death due to his memory achieving Level 2. Oh, the second shouldn't count? Then the third will change your mind: FangJoker tells him he is making the city he loved so much cry, and that is more than enough to having him go through a change of heart, to the point he helps Double eject and destroy the Bird Dopant's Gaia Memory and soon gives a present he promised to Shotaro (To those wondering: Fuuto's Mascot Keychain) and asked him to protect the city. And the fourth and last point is that he is killed by his very wife, Saeko, on top of the building, enjoying the last minutes of his life with the winds that blesses the city.]]
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* The entire damn thing of episode 48. [[spoiler: First, you have the first (and possibly only) full appearance of the acoustic version of an ending song, in this case [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome Cyclone Effect]], playing over Shotaro and Philip's last (possible) scene together as Shotaro struggles to cancel the transformation for the last time. Then you have Philip fading away along with the Xtreme Memory, followed by ManlyTears, followed by everyone being depressed, followed by Shotaro getting a goodbye note/gift from Philip telling him to contuine protecting Futo, and for the preview, in order to avert MoodWhiplash, plays Nobody's Perfect instead of the usual W-B-X.]]
* [[spoiler:Their actions in the final episode seem to confirm it. They just revived Philip, see below]]
* Episode 49 does it ''again'' with [[spoiler:Wakana performing a Gaia Impact in order to restore Philip by giving him her body. Inside the Xtreme Memory, we see the entire Sonozaki family reunite as they all say their final farewells to Philip before disappearing.]]
* ''Double Returns: Eternal Chapter has'' [[spoiler:Daido Katsumi coming upon the slaughtered Quark subjects he failed to save, a sight so horrific that he's DrivenToMadness by it. After watching that, TheMovie becomes a lot more of a TearJerker...]]
* The flashbacks of episode 46 of [[spoiler: the Sonozakis being an actual happy family and knowing how far they fallen]].
* The Double half and ending of Movie Wars Core. If you watched Eternal and thought "how can it possibly get more depressing than this?!" you ain't seen nothing yet. The Spider Dopant's special ability is [[spoiler: Spider Bombs that kill not the victim, but the person the victim loves most, transmitted by the victim's touch.]] Because of this, ''dozens'' of citizens are [[spoiler: suddenly killed in front of, and at the touch of, the people who would suffer most from this happening]], and Soukichi himself can [[spoiler: never be with his daughter Akiko (it'll kill her) or his love interest Melissa (it'll kill him) again.]] Naturally, this all happened on Akiko's birthday. Oh, you know how most MonsterOfTheWeek effects have NoOntologicalInertia? [[spoiler: Not so with these. Once infected is forever infected, even with the Spider Memory destroyed (the Dopant memory ''isn't'' the one used in Shotaro's grappling thingy.)]] The series ''itself'' isn't that depressing but its post-series movies seem to keep trying to top the last in terms of soul-rendingness. Also, the series has several funny moments. Core has ''very'' few. We start with Akiko being [[spoiler: merely sick of her fiancee and friends having to run off and do Rider duty]] and the whole thing descending into more and more despair. Does the scene with [[spoiler: Soukichi's ghost at the end]] begin to make up for it?

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