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* The plot of the Mahoyo Collab event was caused by Kinomi being tricked into making a wish on #1 Lucky Star, a corrupted wish granting Ploy that grants your wish under the conditions that it's "number one and only one of its kind." Kinomi, before coming to inherit the Kumano Inn, had met Mizushima Masago, a minor idol who wasn't popular, but had appealed to him personally, especially after a chance encounter where they seemed to have hit it off. However, Masago had chronic kidney failure, which ended up killing her before her career could really take off. On a whim, Kinomi wished on #1 Lucky Star that Masago would become the number one idol, thinking that it wouldn't be granted. However, it turns out that it can be granted since in addition to being the wish dearest to Kinomi's heart, it turns out that ''he's the only person in the world who had that wish''. The entire world forgot about this one minor idol in spite of all her efforts except for Kinomi. The heroes decide it would be too cruel to try to make Kinomi give up on that wish to defeat #1 Lucky Star and come up with something else.
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*** Dantes' [[ItHasBeenAnHonor parting words for the protagonist]] also hurts very much. Being one of the earlist Avengers in the game, he went from someone who beared nothing but hatred, to becoming the mental guardian of the protagonist (as per above) all along the journey, saving him/her from countless mental attacks (ESPECIALLY in Britain Lostbelt) and helped cleaning up the protagonist's Wastehole. And to avoid him/her becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters an all-comsuming monster]], he partly manipulated the events during the chapter, all while he's in [[SecretlyDying such a bad shape]]. In the end, he wishes nothing but luck to the protagonist, as Chaldea moves on to the unknown, his return uncertain.
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*** Dantes' [[ItHasBeenAnHonor parting words for the protagonist]] also hurts very much. Being one of the earlist earliest Avengers in the game, he went from someone who beared nothing but hatred, to becoming the mental guardian of the protagonist (as per above) all along the journey, saving him/her from countless mental attacks (ESPECIALLY in Britain Lostbelt) and helped cleaning up the protagonist's Wastehole. And to avoid him/her becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters an all-comsuming all-consuming monster]], he partly manipulated the events during the chapter, all while he's in [[SecretlyDying such a bad shape]]. In the end, he wishes nothing but luck to the protagonist, as Chaldea moves on to the unknown, his return uncertain.
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** The reason why Draco created the Seven Imitation Singularities and is gathering the Demonic Beast Incarnadines is because she has a death wish. She doesn't want to die like she did as Nero, left alone in the wasteland with no one to comfort or console her, so she summoned every Servant and Shadow Servant she could for at least the chance for someone to kill her. In her eyes, even dying in the presence of ''her killer'' is preferable to DyingAlone.
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** The reason why Draco created the Seven Imitation Singularities and is gathering the Demonic Beast Incarnadines is because she has a death wish. She doesn't want to die like she did as Nero, left alone in the wasteland with no one to comfort or console her, so she summoned every Servant and Shadow Servant she could for at least hope for the chance for someone to kill her. In her eyes, even dying in the presence of ''her killer'' is preferable to DyingAlone.
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** The chapter basically is a huge one for our protagonist. It is very likely (though not confirmed) that the protagonist was just living his life shown during the chapter (being a OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent, surrounded by friends and loving family) before he signed up for Chaldea, and the rest is history. Is joining up the organization saving the world, while suffering physical and mental distress in the progress a really good thing? [[BeingGoodSucks You decide]].
*** Combined with the above, the concept of Wastehole (an old concept in Nasuverse) was unleashed in full effect: normally, a Wastehole will act as the "rubbish bin" for the protagonist's negative emotions, and "wastes" will be "incinerated" by Dantes and other servants to keep protagonist's mentality as stable as they could. But as shown from Dantes' second interlude, ''they are simply not enough to do so forever'', and thus gave the main antagonist a chance to attack the protagonist's mentality......by forcing him/her to recall Da Vinci's death and Mash's HeroicSacrifice (especially the later indeed pushed the protagonist [[RageBreakingPoint to the point]] that he/she almost got killed during The Second Trial). It's so worth noting that, after all those great accomplishments during Chaldea's journey, '''the protagonist is still a normal human''', and experiencing what he/she suffered AGAIN is still too much.
*** Combined with the above, the concept of Wastehole (an old concept in Nasuverse) was unleashed in full effect: normally, a Wastehole will act as the "rubbish bin" for the protagonist's negative emotions, and "wastes" will be "incinerated" by Dantes and other servants to keep protagonist's mentality as stable as they could. But as shown from Dantes' second interlude, ''they are simply not enough to do so forever'', and thus gave the main antagonist a chance to attack the protagonist's mentality......by forcing him/her to recall Da Vinci's death and Mash's HeroicSacrifice (especially the later indeed pushed the protagonist [[RageBreakingPoint to the point]] that he/she almost got killed during The Second Trial). It's so worth noting that, after all those great accomplishments during Chaldea's journey, '''the protagonist is still a normal human''', and experiencing what he/she suffered AGAIN is still too much.
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** The chapter basically is a huge one for our protagonist. It is very likely (though not confirmed) that the protagonist was just living his their life shown during the chapter (being a OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent, surrounded by friends and loving family) before he they signed up for Chaldea, and the rest is history. Is joining up the organization saving the world, while suffering physical and mental distress in the progress a really good thing? [[BeingGoodSucks You decide]].
*** Combined with the above, the concept of Wastehole (an old concept in Nasuverse) was unleashed in full effect: normally, a Wastehole will act as the "rubbish bin" for the protagonist's negative emotions, and "wastes" will be "incinerated" by Dantes and other servants to keep the protagonist's mentality as stable as they could. But as shown from Dantes' second interlude, ''they are simply not enough to do so forever'', and thus gave the main antagonist a chance to attack the protagonist'smentality......mentality... by forcing him/her to recall Da Vinci's death and Mash's HeroicSacrifice (especially the later indeed pushed the protagonist [[RageBreakingPoint to the point]] that he/she almost got killed during The Second Trial). It's so worth noting that, after all those great accomplishments during Chaldea's journey, '''the protagonist is still a normal human''', and experiencing what he/she suffered AGAIN is still too much.
*** Combined with the above, the concept of Wastehole (an old concept in Nasuverse) was unleashed in full effect: normally, a Wastehole will act as the "rubbish bin" for the protagonist's negative emotions, and "wastes" will be "incinerated" by Dantes and other servants to keep the protagonist's mentality as stable as they could. But as shown from Dantes' second interlude, ''they are simply not enough to do so forever'', and thus gave the main antagonist a chance to attack the protagonist's
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*** Dantes' [[ItHasBeenAnHonor parting words for the protagonist]] also hurts very much. Being one of the earlist Avengers in the game, he went from someone who beared nothing but hatred, to becoming the mental guardian of the protagonist (as per above) all along the journey, saving him/her from countless mental attacks (ESPECIALLY in Britain Lostbelt) and helped cleaning up the protagonist's Wastehole. And to avoid him/her becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters an all-comsuming monster]], he partly manipulated the events during the chapter, all while he's in [[SecretlyDying such a bad shape]]. In the end he wishes nothing but luck to the protagonist, as Chaldea moves on to the unknown, him returning uncertain.
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*** Dantes' [[ItHasBeenAnHonor parting words for the protagonist]] also hurts very much. Being one of the earlist Avengers in the game, he went from someone who beared nothing but hatred, to becoming the mental guardian of the protagonist (as per above) all along the journey, saving him/her from countless mental attacks (ESPECIALLY in Britain Lostbelt) and helped cleaning up the protagonist's Wastehole. And to avoid him/her becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters an all-comsuming monster]], he partly manipulated the events during the chapter, all while he's in [[SecretlyDying such a bad shape]]. In the end end, he wishes nothing but luck to the protagonist, as Chaldea moves on to the unknown, him returning his return uncertain.
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*** Combined with the above, the concept of Wastehole (an old concept in Nasuverse) was unleashed in full effect: normally, a Wastehole will act as the "rubbish bin" for the protagonist's negative emotions, and "wastes" will be "incinerated" by Dantes and other servants to keep protagonist's mentality as stable as they could. But as shwn from Dantes' second interlude, ''they are simply not enough to do so forever'', and thus gave the main antagonist a chance to attack the protagonist's mentality......by forcing him/her to recall Da Vinci's death and Mash's HeroicSacrifice (especially the later indeed pushed the protagonist [[RageBreakingPoint to the point]] that he/she almost got killed during The Second Trial). It's so worth noting that, after all those great accomplishments during Chaldea's journey, '''the protagonist is still a normal human''', and experiencing what he/she suffered AGAIN is still too much.
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*** Combined with the above, the concept of Wastehole (an old concept in Nasuverse) was unleashed in full effect: normally, a Wastehole will act as the "rubbish bin" for the protagonist's negative emotions, and "wastes" will be "incinerated" by Dantes and other servants to keep protagonist's mentality as stable as they could. But as shwn shown from Dantes' second interlude, ''they are simply not enough to do so forever'', and thus gave the main antagonist a chance to attack the protagonist's mentality......by forcing him/her to recall Da Vinci's death and Mash's HeroicSacrifice (especially the later indeed pushed the protagonist [[RageBreakingPoint to the point]] that he/she almost got killed during The Second Trial). It's so worth noting that, after all those great accomplishments during Chaldea's journey, '''the protagonist is still a normal human''', and experiencing what he/she suffered AGAIN is still too much.
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** The chapter basically is a huge one for our protagonist. It is very likely (though not confirmed) that the protagonist was just living his life shown during the chapter (being a OrdinaryHighSchoolStudent, surrounded by friends and loving family) before he signed up for Chaldea, and the rest is history. Is joining up the organization saving the world, while suffering physical and mental distress in the progress a really good thing? [[BeingGoodSucks You decide]].
*** Combined with the above, the concept of Wastehole (an old concept in Nasuverse) was unleashed in full effect: normally, a Wastehole will act as the "rubbish bin" for the protagonist's negative emotions, and "wastes" will be "incinerated" by Dantes and other servants to keep protagonist's mentality as stable as they could. But as shwn from Dantes' second interlude, ''they are simply not enough to do so forever'', and thus gave the main antagonist a chance to attack the protagonist's mentality......by forcing him/her to recall Da Vinci's death and Mash's HeroicSacrifice (especially the later indeed pushed the protagonist [[RageBreakingPoint to the point]] that he/she almost got killed during The Second Trial). It's so worth noting that, after all those great accomplishments during Chaldea's journey, '''the protagonist is still a normal human''', and experiencing what he/she suffered AGAIN is still too much.
*** Combined with the above, the concept of Wastehole (an old concept in Nasuverse) was unleashed in full effect: normally, a Wastehole will act as the "rubbish bin" for the protagonist's negative emotions, and "wastes" will be "incinerated" by Dantes and other servants to keep protagonist's mentality as stable as they could. But as shwn from Dantes' second interlude, ''they are simply not enough to do so forever'', and thus gave the main antagonist a chance to attack the protagonist's mentality......by forcing him/her to recall Da Vinci's death and Mash's HeroicSacrifice (especially the later indeed pushed the protagonist [[RageBreakingPoint to the point]] that he/she almost got killed during The Second Trial). It's so worth noting that, after all those great accomplishments during Chaldea's journey, '''the protagonist is still a normal human''', and experiencing what he/she suffered AGAIN is still too much.
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** Without a doubt, the character most hit by this is none other than Jeanne Alter. THE game's biggest EnsembleDarkhorse and BreakoutCharacter, as well as the lead of the events in this scenario. She ends up spending her last moments before disappearing engaging in TheLastDance with Fujimaru, essentially thanking them for everything up to that point and apologizing for not being able to see the journey through to the end with them. She ends up [[GoOutWithASmile going out with a smile]] before she vanishes, with Fujimaru mentally lamenting that they NeverGotToSayGoodbye.
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** Without a doubt, the character most hit by this is none other than Jeanne Alter. THE game's biggest EnsembleDarkhorse and BreakoutCharacter, as well as one of the lead of the events in this scenario. She ends up spending her last moments before disappearing engaging in TheLastDance with Fujimaru, essentially thanking them for everything up to that point and apologizing for not being able to see the journey through to the end with them. She ends up [[GoOutWithASmile going out with a smile]] before she vanishes, with Fujimaru mentally lamenting that they NeverGotToSayGoodbye.NeverGotToSayGoodbye.
*** Dantes' [[ItHasBeenAnHonor parting words for the protagonist]] also hurts very much. Being one of the earlist Avengers in the game, he went from someone who beared nothing but hatred, to becoming the mental guardian of the protagonist (as per above) all along the journey, saving him/her from countless mental attacks (ESPECIALLY in Britain Lostbelt) and helped cleaning up the protagonist's Wastehole. And to avoid him/her becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters an all-comsuming monster]], he partly manipulated the events during the chapter, all while he's in [[SecretlyDying such a bad shape]]. In the end he wishes nothing but luck to the protagonist, as Chaldea moves on to the unknown, him returning uncertain.
*** Dantes' [[ItHasBeenAnHonor parting words for the protagonist]] also hurts very much. Being one of the earlist Avengers in the game, he went from someone who beared nothing but hatred, to becoming the mental guardian of the protagonist (as per above) all along the journey, saving him/her from countless mental attacks (ESPECIALLY in Britain Lostbelt) and helped cleaning up the protagonist's Wastehole. And to avoid him/her becoming [[HeWhoFightsMonsters an all-comsuming monster]], he partly manipulated the events during the chapter, all while he's in [[SecretlyDying such a bad shape]]. In the end he wishes nothing but luck to the protagonist, as Chaldea moves on to the unknown, him returning uncertain.
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*** For a bit more context and clarity. The Ordeal Call revealed that the Avenger class's proper use is to right injustices through any means necessary to ensure humanity becomes better in the long run. However, not only is it a case of [[AllLovingHero Fujimaru]] being not suited enough to lead them (In fact as another bitter reveal Fujimaru making them hold back their violence and bloodlust was actually slowly [[SecretlyDying killing them), but the Avengers also don't want him to become [[TheUnfettered The Unfettered]] either just for their sakes too, and while a compromise MIGHT exist for both Ritsuka and the Avengers to fight alongside one another without compromising their ideals (with Dantes himself teasing that if there was a way, then Abigail would be the key), they outright can't stay long enough to even humor exploring it. Their Spirit Origins can't stay on the Bleached Earth any longer without risking further destabilization issues due to a lack of any form of injustice on it to make up for Fujimaru's unsuitability (To drive the point home, Marie Alter, an Avenger who is canonically summoned after this chapter and opts to stay can barely keep her Spirit Origin intact), they have to go to Antarctica/CHALDEAS early not just for Ritsuka's sake, but their own too. Worse part of it all however? Neither side is happy about this whatsoever, but there is sadly no other choice at this time. Just about the only thing keeping this from being an outright [[DownerEnding Downer Ending]] is that unlike Musashi's [[CessationofExistence DATA LOST]] status, the register does have them listed as [[PutOnABus "Link Lost"]] which means they have only physically left Novum Chaldea, and implies that one day they may come back. Until then, both Fujimaru and the Avengers can only pray that one day they will meet again under better circumstances.
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*** For a bit more context and clarity. The Ordeal Call revealed that the Avenger class's proper use is to right injustices through any means necessary to ensure humanity becomes better in the long run. However, not only is it a case of [[AllLovingHero Fujimaru]] being not suited enough to lead them (In fact as another bitter reveal Fujimaru making them hold back their violence and bloodlust was actually slowly [[SecretlyDying killing them), them]]), but the Avengers also don't want him to become [[TheUnfettered The Unfettered]] either just for their sakes too, and while a compromise MIGHT exist for both Ritsuka and the Avengers to fight alongside one another without compromising their ideals (with Dantes himself teasing that if there was a way, then Abigail would be the key), they outright can't stay long enough to even humor exploring it. Their Spirit Origins can't stay on the Bleached Earth any longer without risking further destabilization issues due to a lack of any form of injustice on it to make up for Fujimaru's unsuitability (To drive the point home, Marie Alter, an Avenger who is canonically summoned after this chapter and opts to stay can barely keep her Spirit Origin intact), they have to go to Antarctica/CHALDEAS early not just for Ritsuka's sake, but their own too. Worse part of it all however? Neither side is happy about this whatsoever, but there is sadly no other choice at this time. Just about the only thing keeping this from being an outright [[DownerEnding Downer Ending]] is that unlike Musashi's [[CessationofExistence DATA LOST]] status, the register does have them listed as [[PutOnABus "Link Lost"]] which means they have only physically left Novum Chaldea, and implies that one day they may come back. Until then, both Fujimaru and the Avengers can only pray that one day they will meet again under better circumstances.
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*** For a bit more context and clarity. The Ordeal Call revealed that the Avenger class's proper use is to right injustices through any means necessary to ensure humanity becomes better in the long run. However, not only is it a case of [[AllLovingHero Fujimaru]] being not suited enough to lead them, but the Avengers also don't want him to become [[TheUnfettered The Unfettered]] either just for their sakes too, and while a compromise MIGHT exist for both Ritsuka and the Avengers to fight alongside one another without compromising their ideals, they outright can't stay long enough to even humor exploring it. Their Spirit Origins can't stay on the Bleached Earth any longer without risking major destabilization issues due to a lack of any form of injustice on it to make up for Fujimaru's unsuitability (To drive the point home, Marie Alter, an Avenger who is canonically summoned after this chapter and opts to stay can barely keep her Spirit Origin intact), they have to go to Antarctica/CHALDEAS early not just for Ritsuka's sake, but their own too. Worse part of it all however? Neither side is happy about this whatsoever, but there is sadly no other choice at this time. Just about the only thing keeping this from being an outright [[DownerEnding Downer Ending]] is that unlike Musashi's [[CessationofExistence DATA LOST]] status, the register does have them listed as [[PutOnABus "Link Lost"]] which means they have only physically left Novum Chaldea, and implies that one day they may come back. Until then, both Fujimaru and the Avengers can only pray that one day they will meet again under better circumstances.
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*** For a bit more context and clarity. The Ordeal Call revealed that the Avenger class's proper use is to right injustices through any means necessary to ensure humanity becomes better in the long run. However, not only is it a case of [[AllLovingHero Fujimaru]] being not suited enough to lead them, them (In fact as another bitter reveal Fujimaru making them hold back their violence and bloodlust was actually slowly [[SecretlyDying killing them), but the Avengers also don't want him to become [[TheUnfettered The Unfettered]] either just for their sakes too, and while a compromise MIGHT exist for both Ritsuka and the Avengers to fight alongside one another without compromising their ideals, ideals (with Dantes himself teasing that if there was a way, then Abigail would be the key), they outright can't stay long enough to even humor exploring it. Their Spirit Origins can't stay on the Bleached Earth any longer without risking major further destabilization issues due to a lack of any form of injustice on it to make up for Fujimaru's unsuitability (To drive the point home, Marie Alter, an Avenger who is canonically summoned after this chapter and opts to stay can barely keep her Spirit Origin intact), they have to go to Antarctica/CHALDEAS early not just for Ritsuka's sake, but their own too. Worse part of it all however? Neither side is happy about this whatsoever, but there is sadly no other choice at this time. Just about the only thing keeping this from being an outright [[DownerEnding Downer Ending]] is that unlike Musashi's [[CessationofExistence DATA LOST]] status, the register does have them listed as [[PutOnABus "Link Lost"]] which means they have only physically left Novum Chaldea, and implies that one day they may come back. Until then, both Fujimaru and the Avengers can only pray that one day they will meet again under better circumstances.
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** Without a doubt, the character most hit by this is none other than Jeanne Alter. THE game's biggest EnsembleDarkhorse and BreakoutCharacter, as well as the lead of the events in this scenario. She ends up spending her last moments before disappearing engaging in TheLastDance with Fujimaru, essentially thanking them for everything up to that point and apologizing for not being able to see the journey through to the end with them. She ends up [[GoOutWithASmile going out with a smile]] before she vanishes, with Fujimaru mentally lamenting that they NeverGotToSayGoodbye.
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*** For a bit more context and clarity. The Ordeal Call revealed that the Avenger class's proper use is to right injustices through any means necessary to ensure humanity becomes better in the long run. However, not only is it a case of [[AllLovingHero Fujimaru]] being not suited enough to lead them, but the Avengers also don't want him to become [[TheUnfettered The Unfettered]] either just for their sakes too, and while a compromise MIGHT exist for both Ritsuka and the Avengers to fight alongside one another without compromising their ideals, they outright can't stay long enough to even humor exploring it. Their Spirit Origins can't stay on the Bleached Earth any longer without risking major destabilization issues due to a lack of any form of injustice on it to make up for Fujimaru's unsuitability (To drive the point home, Marie Alter, an Avenger who is canonically summoned after this chapter and opts to stay can barely keep her Spirit Origin intact), they have to go to Antarctica/CHALDEAS early not just for Ritsuka's sake, but their own too. Worse part of it all however? Neither side is happy about this. Both Ritsuka and the departing Avengers are not happy about this, but there is sadly no other choice at this time. Just about the only thing keeping this from being an outright [[DownerEnding Downer Ending]] is that unlike Musashi's [[CessationofExistence DATA LOST]] status, the register does have them listed as [[PutOnABus "Link Lost"]] which means they have only physically left Novum Chaldea, and implies that one day they may come back. Until then, both Fujimaru and the Avengers can only pray that one day they will meet again under better circumstances.
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*** For a bit more context and clarity. The Ordeal Call revealed that the Avenger class's proper use is to right injustices through any means necessary to ensure humanity becomes better in the long run. However, not only is it a case of [[AllLovingHero Fujimaru]] being not suited enough to lead them, but the Avengers also don't want him to become [[TheUnfettered The Unfettered]] either just for their sakes too, and while a compromise MIGHT exist for both Ritsuka and the Avengers to fight alongside one another without compromising their ideals, they outright can't stay long enough to even humor exploring it. Their Spirit Origins can't stay on the Bleached Earth any longer without risking major destabilization issues due to a lack of any form of injustice on it to make up for Fujimaru's unsuitability (To drive the point home, Marie Alter, an Avenger who is canonically summoned after this chapter and opts to stay can barely keep her Spirit Origin intact), they have to go to Antarctica/CHALDEAS early not just for Ritsuka's sake, but their own too. Worse part of it all however? Neither side is happy about this. Both Ritsuka and the departing Avengers are not happy about this, this whatsoever, but there is sadly no other choice at this time. Just about the only thing keeping this from being an outright [[DownerEnding Downer Ending]] is that unlike Musashi's [[CessationofExistence DATA LOST]] status, the register does have them listed as [[PutOnABus "Link Lost"]] which means they have only physically left Novum Chaldea, and implies that one day they may come back. Until then, both Fujimaru and the Avengers can only pray that one day they will meet again under better circumstances.
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** By the end of the second Ordeal Call, circumstance and the unfortunate realization that [[AllLovingHero Fujimaru]] is just [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome NOT SUITED]] to lead [[ThePowerOfHate the Avenger Servants]], who [[ButNowIMustGo depart early for Antarctica]] to do what they can. Chaldea's register has them listed as "Link Lost," where they are canonically absent but can still be summoned as Shadow Servants to support Ritsuka. It's a solemn sendoff to a number of beloved FGO favorites, with us praying that it won't be permanent...
** By the end of the second Ordeal Call, circumstance and the unfortunate realization that [[AllLovingHero Fujimaru]] is just [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome NOT SUITED]] to lead [[ThePowerOfHate the Avenger Servants]], who [[ButNowIMustGo depart early for Antarctica]] to do what they can. Chaldea's register has them listed as "Link Lost," where they are canonically absent but can still be summoned as Shadow Servants to support Ritsuka. It's a solemn sendoff to a number of beloved FGO favorites, with us praying that it won't be permanent...
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* '''Paper Moon'''
** Lancer's Master is based off of Cerejeira Elron, one of the handful of Chaldea's survivors. We learn from her memories that she had long harbored a crush on one of her coworkers, and had finally worked up the nerve to ask him out on a date. The day was New Year's Eve, 2017, the day the Foreign God's forces invaded Chaldea. [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Cerejeira was the one who opened the door]] [[MyGreatestFailure and gave Koyanskaya the opportunity to massacre Chaldea]]. Including the man she asked on a date. Unsurprisingly, Cerejeira has been wracked with guilt ever since that day...
** Lancer's Master is based off of Cerejeira Elron, one of the handful of Chaldea's survivors. We learn from her memories that she had long harbored a crush on one of her coworkers, and had finally worked up the nerve to ask him out on a date. The day was New Year's Eve, 2017, the day the Foreign God's forces invaded Chaldea. [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Cerejeira was the one who opened the door]] [[MyGreatestFailure and gave Koyanskaya the opportunity to massacre Chaldea]]. Including the man she asked on a date. Unsurprisingly, Cerejeira has been wracked with guilt ever since that day...
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* '''Paper Moon'''
** Lancer's Master is based off of Cerejeira Elron, one of the handful of Chaldea's survivors. We learn from her memories that she had long harbored a crush on one of her coworkers, and had finally worked up the nerve to ask him out on a date. The day was New Year's Eve, 2017, the day the Foreign God's forces invaded Chaldea. [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Cerejeira was the one who opened the door]] [[MyGreatestFailure and gave Koyanskaya the opportunity to massacre Chaldea]]. Including the man she asked on a date. Unsurprisingly, Cerejeira has been wracked with guilt ever since that day...
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* '''Paper Moon'''
** Lancer's Master is based off of Cerejeira Elron, one of the handful of Chaldea's survivors. We learn from her memories that she had long harbored a crush on one of her coworkers, and had finally worked up the nerve to ask him out on a date. The day was New Year's Eve, 2017, the day the Foreign God's forces invaded Chaldea. [[UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom Cerejeira was the one who opened the door]] [[MyGreatestFailure and gave Koyanskaya the opportunity to massacre Chaldea]]. Including the man she asked on a date. Unsurprisingly, Cerejeira has been wracked with guilt ever since that day...
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* With the ''Samurai Remnant'' collab, it is now possible to reunite Iori, Takeda and most of their friends and enemies. There's just one little problem with this; The Iori we see ingame is explicitly the one from the [[DownerEnding Entreat the Darkness]] ending of his home game, where he sacrificed his morals and humanity in an attempt to wish for the world to be consumed by war so he could finally live out his BloodKnight fantasies, forcing Takeda to kill him. As a result, the other ''Samurai Remnant'' characters are understandably wary around him, despite his own amnesia. Yui especially is shown to be conflicted about the situation, as the heartbreak of witnessing Iori's true nature is still fresh in her mind.
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---> ''"As a consequence of the Lostbelt mechgod Zeus piling up all of the gods' functions (Authorities) in his own body, he was far more energy-intensive than any other ship, and thus had the shortest lifespan. Goddess Hera was the only one who knew this, and this memory was lost in the process of her assimalation into Europa. Mash's downcast face when she saw Zeus's lifescale was because the almighty Zeus also had the worst lifecycle, which made her understand he was a literal machine pushing itself to its limits to serve the people of Olympus. It was a moment of pity, respect, and sadness for the fact that, despite being like this, Zeus will never be anything more than an enemy to humanity."''
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---> ''"As a consequence of the Lostbelt mechgod Zeus piling up all of the gods' functions (Authorities) in his own body, he was far more energy-intensive than any other ship, and thus had the shortest lifespan. Goddess Hera was the only one who knew this, and this memory was lost in the process of her assimalation into Europa. Mash's downcast face when she saw Zeus's lifescale was because the almighty Zeus also had the worst lifecycle, which made her understand he was a literal machine [[GreaterNeedThanMine pushing itself to its limits to serve the people of Olympus. Olympus]]. It was a moment of [[SympathyForTheDevil pity, respect, and sadness sadness]] for the fact that, despite being like this, Zeus will never be anything more than an enemy to humanity."''
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** Zeus's death becomes this with the revelation revealed by Hikaru Sakurai, as they reveal that, contrary to what he states just prior to his death, he does genuinely care about humanity. As per her own words,
---> ''"As a consequence of the Lostbelt mechgod Zeus piling up all of the gods' functions (Authorities) in his own body, he was far more energy-intensive than any other ship, and thus had the shortest lifespan. Goddess Hera was the only one who knew this, and this memory was lost in the process of her assimalation into Europa. Mash's downcast face when she saw Zeus's lifescale was because the almighty Zeus also had the worst lifecycle, which made her understand he was a literal machine pushing itself to its limits to serve the people of Olympus. It was a moment of pity, respect, and sadness for the fact that, despite being like this, Zeus will never be anything more than an enemy to humanity."''
---> ''"As a consequence of the Lostbelt mechgod Zeus piling up all of the gods' functions (Authorities) in his own body, he was far more energy-intensive than any other ship, and thus had the shortest lifespan. Goddess Hera was the only one who knew this, and this memory was lost in the process of her assimalation into Europa. Mash's downcast face when she saw Zeus's lifescale was because the almighty Zeus also had the worst lifecycle, which made her understand he was a literal machine pushing itself to its limits to serve the people of Olympus. It was a moment of pity, respect, and sadness for the fact that, despite being like this, Zeus will never be anything more than an enemy to humanity."''
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** During his last moments Surtr quietly contemplates how he, a personification of fire and destruction, cannot ever express his love for Ophelia in a way that she would appreciate.
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** Altria Caster's backstory where she was treated like shit by a majority of the other fairies and was destined to die to forge Excalibur (only averted due to Muramasa). It's implied the only reason she performed her duty was her feelings for the Protagonist. During the trials of Avalon, Altria's painful memories surfaces as powerful Mors that the Protagonist and his team must face and put down, which each Mor they fell, transferring Altria's grief and hurt over. When it came time to reveal Altria's happiest memories, ''nothing happens'', '''meaning that Altria was essentially miserable 24/7 throughout a majority of her life before the Protagonist shows up'''. Give that poor girl a hug!
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** Altria Caster's backstory where she was treated like shit by a majority of the other fairies and was destined to die to forge Excalibur (only averted due to Muramasa). It's implied the only reason she performed her duty was her feelings for the Protagonist. During the trials of Avalon, Altria's painful memories surfaces as powerful Mors that the Protagonist and his their team must face and put down, which each Mor they fell, transferring Altria's grief and hurt over. When it came time to reveal Altria's happiest memories, ''nothing happens'', '''meaning that Altria was essentially miserable 24/7 throughout a majority of her life before the Protagonist shows up'''. Give that poor girl a hug!
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** Before all this tragedy, Percival makes a final plea to the Protagonist and the party to [[WideEyedIdealist NOT hate the fairies of Britain]], choosing to see the good in them rather than the bad.
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** Before all this tragedy, Percival makes a final plea to the Protagonist and the party to [[WideEyedIdealist NOT hate the fairies of Britain]], choosing to see the good in them rather than the bad. Which’s all the sadder when much the fandom feels anything good of the faeries is heavily outweighed by the bad, being the one Lostbelt a majority agrees is better gone.
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* Early on in Chaldea Summer Adventure, the 2021 summer event, the group runs into a baby stegosaurus that imprints on Da Vinci and accompanies her throughout the event. However, at the end of the event, the group is forced to say goodbye to their dinosaur friend in a tragic way; the last day of the event's story reveals that Steggy and one of its parents met their end by being trapped in what would eventually turn into amber, and said parent is still there. Resolving the Singularity means allowing Steggy to reunite with its parent, even though doing so would essentially lead to its death. However, Steggy's desire to be with its parent is greater than its fear of death, and Da Vinci is determined to let Steggy follow its own desires. What ensues is a heartbreaking goodbye scene that hits ''very'' hard, especially for players who have had to say goodbye to beloved pets themselves.
** We then get a brief narration from the parent stegosaurus's perspective, recounting the final moments for parent and child, which is something that resonates with players who have their own children. But what really hits home is that the parent eventually has a dream of its child being free of the heated sap that is drowning them and being able to run around, play, and partake in an exciting adventure. It's enough to get the tears flowing even harder.
** We then get a brief narration from the parent stegosaurus's perspective, recounting the final moments for parent and child, which is something that resonates with players who have their own children. But what really hits home is that the parent eventually has a dream of its child being free of the heated sap that is drowning them and being able to run around, play, and partake in an exciting adventure. It's enough to get the tears flowing even harder.
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*** The manga adaptation would imply that among of EMIYA Alter's victims is '''his version of Taiga''' and [[AdaptationExpansion goes into detail about his Materials line for Jaguar Warrior]]. It's revealed that Taiga had a son who passed away from an incurable disease and despite not being a religious person, Taiga began to to be influenced by the cult out of an incorrect belief that Kiara and her followers were capable of curing her son's disease. By the time her son died, Taiga fully embraced her place within the cult and was willing to ''shoot'' EMIYA Alter to protect Kiara.
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*** The manga adaptation would imply that among of EMIYA Alter's victims is '''his version of Taiga''' and [[AdaptationExpansion goes into detail about his Materials line for Jaguar Warrior]]. It's revealed that Taiga had a son who passed away from an incurable disease and despite not being a religious person, Taiga began to to be influenced by the cult out of an incorrect belief that Kiara and her followers were capable of curing her son's disease. By the time her son died, Taiga fully embraced her place within the cult and was willing to ''shoot'' EMIYA Alter to protect Kiara.
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*** The manga adaptation would imply that among of EMIYA Alter's victims is '''his version of Taiga''' and [[AdaptationExpansion goes into detail about his Materials line for Jaguar Warrior]]. It's revealed and Taiga had a son who passed away from an incurable disease. Despite not being a religious person, Taiga began to to be influenced by the cult out of a belief that Kiara and her followers were capable of curing her son's disease. By the time her son died, Taiga fully embraced her place within and was willing to ''shoot'' EMIYA Alter to protect Kiara.
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*** The manga adaptation would imply that among of EMIYA Alter's victims is '''his version of Taiga''' and [[AdaptationExpansion goes into detail about his Materials line for Jaguar Warrior]]. It's revealed and that Taiga had a son who passed away from an incurable disease. Despite disease and despite not being a religious person, Taiga began to to be influenced by the cult out of a an incorrect belief that Kiara and her followers were capable of curing her son's disease. By the time her son died, Taiga fully embraced her place within the cult and was willing to ''shoot'' EMIYA Alter to protect Kiara.
