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-->'''Rocky:''' You got ''everything'' to lose. This guy's got ''nothing'' to lose.
-->'''Adonis:''' I ain't got a ''choice''.
-->'''Rocky:''' That's the same thing your father said, and he died, right here in my hands.
* Rocky refers to the brain damage he suffered after the Ivan Drago fight, acknowledging that Drago kept his promise of "breaking" him before the fight.



** The above quote refers to the brain damage Rocky suffered after the Ivan Drago fight. Rocky acknowledges that Drago kept his promise of "breaking" him before the fight.
** Even worse according to Bianca this determination to defeat Drago has apparently caused him to forsake his duties as a father and husband.

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** The above quote refers to the brain damage Rocky suffered after the Ivan Drago fight. Rocky acknowledges that Drago kept his promise of "breaking" him before the fight.
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* Even worse according to Bianca this determination to defeat Drago has apparently caused him to forsake his duties as a father and husband.



** Rocky watching Adonis fighting Viktor on television. At a certain point when Adonis is getting beaten badly, Rocky turns off the broadcast, because it is too painful for him to watch.

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** * Rocky watching Adonis fighting Viktor on television. At a certain point when Adonis is getting beaten badly, Rocky turns off the broadcast, because it is too painful for him to watch.

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* It’s hard not to feel a little pity for Ivan Drago [[HowTheMightyHaveFallen when seeing how badly his life fell apart following his loss to Rocky.]] Sure, he [[Film/RockyIV killed Apollo]] and didn't show any remorse for it, but even then, he was just being a fighter and in the end, had a sense of honor and respect.

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* It’s hard not to feel a little pity for Ivan Drago [[HowTheMightyHaveFallen when seeing how badly his life fell apart following his loss to Rocky.]] Rocky]]. His wife divorced him, he lost everything he earned, and eventually fled the Soviet Union in disgrace; ending up in Ukraine to [[StrugglingSingleFather raise his son alone and in poverty]]. Sure, he [[Film/RockyIV killed Apollo]] and didn't show any remorse for it, but even then, he was just being a fighter and in the end, had a sense of honor and respect.



** Ivan notices there aren't any photos of himself amongst Rocky's collection, despite them encompassing basically the whole of Balboa's career. Even if he ''did'' win it, Rocky himself doesn't want to remember that fight; nor what [[CasualtyInTheRing lead into it]] or [[GameBreakingInjury what happened as a result]].

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** Ivan notices there aren't any photos of himself amongst Rocky's collection, despite them otherwise encompassing basically the whole of Balboa's career. Even if he ''did'' win it, it's evident that Rocky himself doesn't want to remember that fight; nor what [[CasualtyInTheRing lead into it]] or [[GameBreakingInjury what happened as a result]].



** When Viktor calls out these same people for abandoning and shaming his father, Ivan shouts back, "I lost!" The implication is that he thinks he ''deserved'' that treatment...for losing a BOXING MATCH. It's a gut-wrenching example of what living in a totalitarian society like the old USSR could do to you...you internalize that mindset of "your whole life is secondary to the good of the State."

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** When Viktor calls out these same people for abandoning and shaming his father, Ivan shouts back, "I lost!" lost!". The implication is that he thinks he ''deserved'' that treatment...treatment... for '''[[KarmicOverkill losing a BOXING MATCH.boxing match]]'''. It's a gut-wrenching example of what living in a totalitarian society like the old USSR could do to you... you internalize that mindset of "your whole life is secondary to the good of the State." State".

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-->'''Ivan:''' (''to Rocky'') [[Film/RockyIV Everything changed that night]]. Because of you, I lose everything. Country, respect... wife.

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-->'''Ivan:''' (''to Rocky'') People in this country love you. But in Russia... no one touch Drago name. [[Film/RockyIV Everything changed that night]]. night]].
-->'''Rocky:''' But that was, like, a million years ago.
-->'''Drago:''' Like yesterday to me. (''...'') [[WhatTheHellHero
Because of you, I lose everything.everything]]. Country, respect... wife.
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** Ivan notices there aren't any photos of himself amongst Rocky's collection, despite them encompassing basically the whole of Balboa's career. Even if he ''did'' win it, Rocky himself doesn't want to remember that fight; nor what [[MyGreatestFailure lead into it]] or [[GameBreakingInjury what happened as a result]].

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** Ivan notices there aren't any photos of himself amongst Rocky's collection, despite them encompassing basically the whole of Balboa's career. Even if he ''did'' win it, Rocky himself doesn't want to remember that fight; nor what [[MyGreatestFailure [[CasualtyInTheRing lead into it]] or [[GameBreakingInjury what happened as a result]].



-->'''Rocky:''' (''sadly'') No... there's no pictures of that.

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-->'''Rocky:''' (''sadly'') [[MyGreatestFailure No... there's no pictures of that.that]].
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-->'''Ivan:''' (''to Rocky'') Because of [[Film/RockyIV Everything changed that night]]. Because of you, I lose everything. Country, respect... wife.

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-->'''Ivan:''' (''to Rocky'') Because of [[Film/RockyIV Everything changed that night]]. Because of you, I lose everything. Country, respect... wife.

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--> '''Ivan:''' (to Rocky) Because of [[Film/RockyIV you]], I lose everything. Country, respect... wife...
** Ivan notices there aren't any pictures of himself amongst Rocky's collection. [[MyGreatestFailure Rocky doesn't want to remember that fight]].

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--> '''Ivan:''' (to Rocky) -->'''Ivan:''' (''to Rocky'') Because of [[Film/RockyIV you]], Everything changed that night]]. Because of you, I lose everything. Country, respect... wife...
wife.
** Ivan notices there aren't any pictures photos of himself amongst Rocky's collection. [[MyGreatestFailure collection, despite them encompassing basically the whole of Balboa's career. Even if he ''did'' win it, Rocky himself doesn't want to remember that fight]].fight; nor what [[MyGreatestFailure lead into it]] or [[GameBreakingInjury what happened as a result]].
-->'''Ivan:''' (''[[BaddieFlattery quietly impressed]]'') Nice pictures.
-->'''Rocky:''' Yeah, they're okay.
-->'''Ivan:''' No pictures of me?
-->'''Rocky:''' (''sadly'') No... there's no pictures of that.
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--> "He broke things in me that ain't never been fixed. It ain't worth it."

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--> "He "And when I ''did'' get in that ring? That guy broke things in me that ain't never been fixed. It ain't It's not worth it.it. Not at all."
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** When Viktor calls out these same people for abandoning and shaming his father, Ivan shouts back, "I lost!" The implication is that he thinks he ''deserved'' that treatment...for losing a BOXING MATCH. It's a gut-wrenching example of what living in a totalitarian society like the old USSR could do to you...you internalize that mindset of "your whole life is secondary to the good of the State."

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* In the Deleted Scene, we find out that Spider Rico has passed away, meaning that everyone from Rocky's youth is now gone.

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* In the Deleted Scene, we find out that Spider Rico has passed away, meaning that everyone from Rocky's youth past is now gone.gone, and he mentions this too, getting choked up from it. Before he gives his eulogy, Rocky takes a look at the funeral house and realize only a handful people showed up, most likely the only people Rico knew. Rocky says his goodbye by saying that where ever Rico goes, it'll be better from where he's been, giving a clear image of what Rico's life was, even during his moments in Film/RockyBalboa.
** Not to mention, Rico says he has a daughter, but he can't remember where she lives due to the amount of head shots he's taken in his career. Somewhere, his daughter doesn't know he's dead.
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** Ivan notices there aren't any pictures of himself amongst Rocky's collection. [[MyGreatestFailure Rocky doesn't want to remember that fight]].
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** When Adonis breaks down, Amara stops crying. He looks over at her to find her looking back at him with what honestly seems like a sad and even apologetic look. Even as a newborn baby it's like she can sense her father's pain and sadness. Adonis hugs and reassures her that it's not her fault and that "Daddy's being a bitch."
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** With the news that Rocky won't appear in Creed III, the scene is always a poignant passing of the torch from Sylvester Stallone, who took the franchise to incredible pop cultural heights, to Michael B. Jordan, who breathed new life into it and made it his own.

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** With the news that Rocky won't appear in Creed III, the scene is always also a poignant passing of the torch from Sylvester Stallone, who took the franchise to incredible pop cultural heights, to Michael B. Jordan, who breathed new life into it and made it his own.

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