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*** The Game Awards trailer for ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRebirth'' depicted a Cloud[=/=]Aerith ''Loveless'' date at the Gold Saucer and arguments quickly flared up over which date would be portrayed as more romantic or canonical. The ImageSong ''"No Promises to Keep"'' itself has been subject to argument as the lyrics suggest the song is about Aerith's growing feelings for Cloud and in light of [[spoiler:Aerith's heavy importance in the game's main plot and further implication that she'll continue to play a large role in the final entry]], suggest a leaning towards Clerith being the [[OfficialCouple creators' par preferati]]. Meanwhile, Cloti shippers claim that the song could easily be about Zack or Aerith's [[LovingAShadow supposed projection of Zack onto an amnesiac Cloud rather than his real self]], and that the flow of the story will end up favouring Cloti in the long run, especially if [[PlotlineDeath Aerith's fate]] is followed through at the very end. The game proper [[spoiler:decided to TakeAThirdOption by giving both women equal amounts of screen time and ShipTease moments, with their own Gold Saucer dates with differing romantic context: Tifa's high affection date leads to the BigDamnKiss with the fireworks backdrop, and more powerfully Cloud is the one to initiate the kiss; while Aerith's high affection date has a thwarted AlmostKiss and then the two holding hands with IntertwinedFingers as they watch the fireworks together, a deep and meaningful gesture commonly seen between romantic couples in Japanese[=/=]Eastern fiction.]] Adding further fuel is the alternative Gold Saucer date scenes which lean Cloud towards one of the other: Yuffie's date has a moment where she discusses a past crush and the possibility of Tifa having a crush on Cloud; Barret's date has a rare FriendshipMoment between the two men where he advises Cloud to not beat around the bush with a soulmate before life throws a curveball that separates the two, in a subtext that implies he is talking about Aerith; and Red XIII's "date" has Red and Cloud shake hands[=/=]paws on a DeclarationOfProtection towards Aerith.
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** The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order to save the town. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
** [=GrahamFielders=] view Max's friendship with Chloe [[ToxicFriendInfluence as toxic]], built seemingly around Chloe manipulating Max with childhood nostalgia and guilt trips. Thus, they feel Warren is better for her since he's the NiceGuy option and Max's closest friend at school. But to [=PriceFielders=], Warren is a stalker who's only pretending to be Max's "friend" in order to get into her panties, despite the game's narrative repeatedly showing Warren to be well-meaning and supportive to Max regardless whether she reciprocates his feelings, or not.
** [=GrahamFielders=] view Max's friendship with Chloe [[ToxicFriendInfluence as toxic]], built seemingly around Chloe manipulating Max with childhood nostalgia and guilt trips. Thus, they feel Warren is better for her since he's the NiceGuy option and Max's closest friend at school. But to [=PriceFielders=], Warren is a stalker who's only pretending to be Max's "friend" in order to get into her panties, despite the game's narrative repeatedly showing Warren to be well-meaning and supportive to Max regardless whether she reciprocates his feelings, or not.
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** The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order [[TheNeedsOfTheMany to save the town. town]]. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion ''[[DieForOurShip which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
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** [=GrahamFielders=] view Max's friendship with Chloe [[ToxicFriendInfluence as toxic]], built seemingly around Chloe manipulating Max with childhood nostalgia and guilt trips. Thus, they feel Warren is better for her since he's the NiceGuy option and Max's closest friend at school. But to [=PriceFielders=], Warren is a stalker who's only pretending to be Max's "friend" in order to get into her panties, despite the game's narrative repeatedly showing Warren to be well-meaning and supportiveto of Max regardless [[UndyingLoyalty regardless]] whether she reciprocates his feelings, [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy or not.not]].
** [=GrahamFielders=] view Max's friendship with Chloe [[ToxicFriendInfluence as toxic]], built seemingly around Chloe manipulating Max with childhood nostalgia and guilt trips. Thus, they feel Warren is better for her since he's the NiceGuy option and Max's closest friend at school. But to [=PriceFielders=], Warren is a stalker who's only pretending to be Max's "friend" in order to get into her panties, despite the game's narrative repeatedly showing Warren to be well-meaning and supportive
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** The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order to save the town. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
** [=GrahamFielders=] view Max's friendship with Chloe [[PoisonousFriend as toxic]], built seemingly around Chloe manipulating Max with childhood nostalgia and guilt trips. Thus, they feel Warren is better for her since he's the NiceGuy option and Max's closest friend at school. But to [=PriceFielders=], Warren is a stalker who's only pretending to be Max's "friend" in order to get into her panties, despite the game's narrative repeatedly showing Warren to be well-meaning and supportive to Max regardless whether she reciprocates his feelings, or not.
** The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order to save the town. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
** [=GrahamFielders=] view Max's friendship with Chloe [[PoisonousFriend as toxic]], built seemingly around Chloe manipulating Max with childhood nostalgia and guilt trips. Thus, they feel Warren is better for her since he's the NiceGuy option and Max's closest friend at school. But to [=PriceFielders=], Warren is a stalker who's only pretending to be Max's "friend" in order to get into her panties, despite the game's narrative repeatedly showing Warren to be well-meaning and supportive to Max regardless whether she reciprocates his feelings, or not.
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**The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order to save the town. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
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** The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order to save the town. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
** [=GrahamFielders=] view Max's friendship with Chloe as being toxic, built seemingly around Chloe manipulating Max with childhood nostalgia and guilt trips. Thus, they feel Warren is better for her since he's the NiceGuy option and Max's closest friend at school. But to [=PriceFielders=], Warren is a stalker who's only pretending to be Max's "friend" in order to get into her panties, despite the game's narrative repeatedly showing Warren to be well-meaning and supportive to Max regardless whether she reciprocates his feelings, or not.
** The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order to save the town. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
** [=GrahamFielders=] view Max's friendship with Chloe as being toxic, built seemingly around Chloe manipulating Max with childhood nostalgia and guilt trips. Thus, they feel Warren is better for her since he's the NiceGuy option and Max's closest friend at school. But to [=PriceFielders=], Warren is a stalker who's only pretending to be Max's "friend" in order to get into her panties, despite the game's narrative repeatedly showing Warren to be well-meaning and supportive to Max regardless whether she reciprocates his feelings, or not.
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**The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order to save the town. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
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** The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order to save the town. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
** [=GrahamField=] shippers view Max's friendship with Chloe as being toxic, built seemingly around Chloe manipulating Max with childhood nostalgia and guilt trips. Thus, they feel Warren is better for her sibce he's the NiceGuy option and Max's closest friend at school. But to [=PriceFielders=], Warren is a stalker who's only pretending to be Max's "friend" in order to get into her panties, despite the game's narrative repeatedly showing Warren to be well-meaning and supportive to Max regardless whether she reciprocates his feelings, or not.
** The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order to save the town. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
** [=GrahamField=] shippers view Max's friendship with Chloe as being toxic, built seemingly around Chloe manipulating Max with childhood nostalgia and guilt trips. Thus, they feel Warren is better for her sibce he's the NiceGuy option and Max's closest friend at school. But to [=PriceFielders=], Warren is a stalker who's only pretending to be Max's "friend" in order to get into her panties, despite the game's narrative repeatedly showing Warren to be well-meaning and supportive to Max regardless whether she reciprocates his feelings, or not.
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**The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order to save the town. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
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**The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order to save the town. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
**[=GrahamField=] shippers view Max's friendship with Chloe as being toxic, built seemingly around Chloe manipulating Max with childhood nostalgia and guilt trips. Thus, they feel Warren is better for her sibce he's the NiceGuy option and Max's closest friend at school. But to [=PriceFielders=], Warren is a stalker who's only pretending to be Max's "friend" in order to get into her panties, despite the game's narrative repeatedly showing Warren to be well-meaning and supportive to Max regardless whether she reciprocates his feelings, or not.
**The fandom's main two competing ships are [[GirlOnGirlIsHot PriceField]] (Max x Chloe) vs. the less popular [[PairTheSmartOnes GrahamField]] (Max x Warren). The [=PriceField=] camp consider Max and Chloe to be soulmates bonded together by childhood friendship and the discovery of Max's rewind ability, which they attribute to Max's desire to save Chloe. The game's final decision even pits both ships indirectly against each other by forcing Max to choose to either sacrifice everyone in Arcadia Bay to save Chloe, or to let Chloe die in order to save the town. Three guess ''[[AskAStupidQuestion which one]]'' [=PriceFielders=] decide?
**[=GrahamField=] shippers view Max's friendship with Chloe as being toxic, built seemingly around Chloe manipulating Max with childhood nostalgia and guilt trips. Thus, they feel Warren is better for her sibce he's the NiceGuy option and Max's closest friend at school. But to [=PriceFielders=], Warren is a stalker who's only pretending to be Max's "friend" in order to get into her panties, despite the game's narrative repeatedly showing Warren to be well-meaning and supportive to Max regardless whether she reciprocates his feelings, or not.
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* ''VideoGame/GenshinImpact'': Due in part to the game's popularity and the community's extensive reach, the western end of the fandom has become particularly infamous for its infighting concerning ships:
** Zhongli/Childe and Childe/Lumine shippers tend to be at each other's throats due to both of these ships being the most popular options for Childe. Not helping matters, an early mistranslation labeling Childe as a teenager added fuel to the fire, with Childe/Lumine claiming that the relationship between Zhongli, who is thousands of years old, and Childe is problematic (this was before it became widely known that the Traveler is also hundreds of years old). Following the backlash, the western branch of Hoyoverse corrected the mistake, though there are still times when both sides find reasons to attack each other for simply shipping one or the other pairing or to declare their preferred ships' superiority.
** With the Inazuma update arguments began popping up between Noelle/Traveler and Ayaka/Traveler shippers due to the heavy romantic themes of both characters' story quests. Naturally, this led to arguments over which girl was the Traveler's "canon" love interest. These usually revolve around where Noelle's multi-route hangout event stands canonically compared to Ayaka's story quest, which is part of the main questline.
** Fans of Raiden/Yae got into a fight with Ayato/Yae shippers over which ship had more chemistry. Raiden/Yae shippers liked the close relationship and care the two showed for each other, while Ayato/Yae fans argued that Ayato's ability to one-up the cunning fox made their dynamic much more interesting.
** Diluc/Kaeya shippers and Albedo/Kaeya shippers generally dislike one another. Diluc/Kaeya shippers complained that the opposing ship's apparent age gap was problematic (due to Albedo having a short male model), while Albedo/Kaeya shippers fired back by saying their ship was incestuous (due to a supposedly faulty English translation).
** The popularity of Neuvillette/Furina skyrocketed after the conclusion of Chapter IV Act V which provided lots of material in-game and other official/sponsored media that could be [[ShipTease interpreted as supportive of the ship.]] Of course, same-sex shippers like Wriothesley/Neuvillette, Arlecchino/Furina, and even Furina/Traveler shippers became upset and proceeded to argue and harass Neuvillette/Furina shippers by droves, causing them to rabidly fight back. Any discussions between the opposing ships usually lead to an age gap and power discussion discourse, accusations of Neuvillette/Furina being an incestuous pairing (due to Furina's short female model and histrionic personality) or downplay their relationship, and in extreme cases, resorting to butting heads and personal attacks.
** Zhongli/Childe and Childe/Lumine shippers tend to be at each other's throats due to both of these ships being the most popular options for Childe. Not helping matters, an early mistranslation labeling Childe as a teenager added fuel to the fire, with Childe/Lumine claiming that the relationship between Zhongli, who is thousands of years old, and Childe is problematic (this was before it became widely known that the Traveler is also hundreds of years old). Following the backlash, the western branch of Hoyoverse corrected the mistake, though there are still times when both sides find reasons to attack each other for simply shipping one or the other pairing or to declare their preferred ships' superiority.
** With the Inazuma update arguments began popping up between Noelle/Traveler and Ayaka/Traveler shippers due to the heavy romantic themes of both characters' story quests. Naturally, this led to arguments over which girl was the Traveler's "canon" love interest. These usually revolve around where Noelle's multi-route hangout event stands canonically compared to Ayaka's story quest, which is part of the main questline.
** Fans of Raiden/Yae got into a fight with Ayato/Yae shippers over which ship had more chemistry. Raiden/Yae shippers liked the close relationship and care the two showed for each other, while Ayato/Yae fans argued that Ayato's ability to one-up the cunning fox made their dynamic much more interesting.
** Diluc/Kaeya shippers and Albedo/Kaeya shippers generally dislike one another. Diluc/Kaeya shippers complained that the opposing ship's apparent age gap was problematic (due to Albedo having a short male model), while Albedo/Kaeya shippers fired back by saying their ship was incestuous (due to a supposedly faulty English translation).
** The popularity of Neuvillette/Furina skyrocketed after the conclusion of Chapter IV Act V which provided lots of material in-game and other official/sponsored media that could be [[ShipTease interpreted as supportive of the ship.]] Of course, same-sex shippers like Wriothesley/Neuvillette, Arlecchino/Furina, and even Furina/Traveler shippers became upset and proceeded to argue and harass Neuvillette/Furina shippers by droves, causing them to rabidly fight back. Any discussions between the opposing ships usually lead to an age gap and power discussion discourse, accusations of Neuvillette/Furina being an incestuous pairing (due to Furina's short female model and histrionic personality) or downplay their relationship, and in extreme cases, resorting to butting heads and personal attacks.
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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s "Love Triangle Debate" over whether Cloud loved Aerith or Tifa has an almost legendary status for this[[note]]To the point where entire forums either locked or shut down, Website/TVTropes included -- the main work page, Characters/FinalFantasyVIIPlayableCharacters, and YMMV.FinalFantasyVII were at one point locked for 10 years due to rampant [[Administrivia/EditWar Edit wars]][[/note]]. Even almost ''two decades'' after the game's release, there are still corners of the internet where Cloud/Tifa and Cloud/Aerith shippers wage war with each other. Debates tend to rage around whether Aerith loved "the real Cloud" or the persona he had when he was amnesiac, whether Cloud and Tifa can considered a couple by the time of ''Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren'', which Gold Saucer date can be considered canon, whether or not [[PreClimaxClimax the Highwind "sex" scene]] could be considered canon (as it relies on Cloud's RelationshipValues with Tifa being high enough), and to what extent official materials and translations support either pairing. The aftershocks of this shipping war has spread outside ''FFVII'', with shippers taking their arguements to other ''Final Fantasy'' games (specifically over if the couples in these games can be seen as a throwback to either Cloud/Aerith or Cloud/Tifa) and other Creator/SquareEnix properties like ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' (which is itself covered below on this very page).
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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s "Love Triangle Debate" over whether Cloud loved Aerith or Tifa has an almost legendary status for this[[note]]To the point where entire forums either locked or shut down, Website/TVTropes included -- the main work page, Characters/FinalFantasyVIIPlayableCharacters, and YMMV.FinalFantasyVII were at one point locked for 10 years due to rampant [[Administrivia/EditWar Edit wars]][[/note]]. Even almost ''two decades'' after the game's release, there are still corners of the internet where Cloud/Tifa and Cloud/Aerith shippers wage war with each other. Debates tend to rage around whether Aerith loved "the real Cloud" or the persona he had when he was amnesiac, whether Cloud and Tifa can considered a couple by the time of ''Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren'', which Gold Saucer date can be considered canon, whether or not [[PreClimaxClimax the Highwind "sex" scene]] could be considered canon (as it relies on Cloud's RelationshipValues with Tifa being high enough), and to what extent official materials and translations support either pairing. The aftershocks of this shipping war has spread outside ''FFVII'', with shippers taking their arguements arguments to other ''Final Fantasy'' games (specifically over if the couples [[OfficialCouple official couples]] in these games games[[note]]mainly [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIII Squall/Rinoa]], [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyIX Zidane/Garnet]], [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyX Tidus/Yuna]], and [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXVI Clive/Jill]][[/note]] can be seen as a throwback to either Cloud/Aerith or Cloud/Tifa) and other Creator/SquareEnix properties like ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' (which is itself covered below on this very page).
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** Edgeworth, similarly, when he isn't shipped with Phoenix, is paired with either [[SubordinateExcuse Detective Gumshoe]] or [[FriendlyEnemy Shi Long Lang]]. Most of the time these shipping factions are cordial in spite of their differences. However, there is also a VocalMinority of Edgeworth/Gumshoe and Edgeworth/Lang shippers who allege that Phoenix is an [[CrazyJealousGuy obsessive]] StalkerWithACrush at best, or straight-up {{Yandere}} for Edgeworth at absolute worst in order to prop up their pairings of choice as healthier and more wholesome. By contrast, those who dare to ship [[AmbiguouslyGay him]] with women -- particularly [[NotBloodSiblings Franziska]], [[TokenMiniMoe Kay]], or [[TheRival Justice Courtney]] are met with constant backlash and homophobia accusations from all three factions (and no, suggesting he's bisexual won’t lessen the blow). If you want to piss off ''everybody'' in the shipping community, allege that Edgeworth is asexual, then sit back and watch the sparks fly. Bringing up the fact that Edgeworth canonically seems to be disinterested in romance [[CelibateHero in general]], even by the time of ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'' (where he's a ConfirmedBachelor who swears he'll never marry and defensively asks what's wrong with being single), will not save you either.
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** Edgeworth, similarly, when he isn't shipped with Phoenix, is paired with either [[SubordinateExcuse Detective Gumshoe]] or [[FriendlyEnemy Shi Long Lang]]. Most of the time these shipping factions are cordial in spite of their differences. However, there is also a VocalMinority of Edgeworth/Gumshoe and Edgeworth/Lang shippers who allege that Phoenix is an [[CrazyJealousGuy obsessive]] StalkerWithACrush at best, or straight-up {{Yandere}} for Edgeworth at absolute worst in order to prop up their pairings of choice as healthier and more wholesome. By contrast, those who dare to ship [[AmbiguouslyGay him]] with women -- particularly [[NotBloodSiblings Franziska]], [[TokenMiniMoe Kay]], or [[TheRival Justice Courtney]] are met with constant backlash and homophobia accusations from all three factions (and no, suggesting he's bisexual won’t lessen won't soften the blow). If you want to piss off ''everybody'' in the shipping community, allege that Edgeworth is an aromantic asexual, then sit back and watch the sparks fly. Bringing up the fact that Edgeworth canonically seems to be disinterested in romance [[CelibateHero in general]], even by the time of ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'' (where he's a ConfirmedBachelor who swears he'll never marry and defensively asks what's wrong with being single), will not save you either.
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* ''VideoGame/StarOceanTheSecondStory'' has the Claude/Rena shippers at odds with the Dias/Rena shippers, with the Claude/Dias, Claude/Ashton and Dias/Ashton fans occasionally joining in. It's best not to mention the little known sequel on the UsefulNotes/GameBoyColor (''Blue Sphere'') to anyone who ships Claude and Rena with other people. (Oddly enough, the various yuri pairings, the het pairings that don't involve Rena, and pretty much any pairing involving Noel are ignored in shipping wars.) This eventually died down over the years, as very few people even raised an eyebrow when Claude and Rena's descendant was included as a party member in [[VideoGame/StarOceanIntegrityAndFaithlessness the fifth game]].
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* ''VideoGame/StarOceanTheSecondStory'' has the Claude/Rena shippers at odds with the Dias/Rena shippers, with the Claude/Dias, Claude/Ashton and Dias/Ashton fans occasionally joining in. It's best not to mention the little known sequel on the UsefulNotes/GameBoyColor Platform/GameBoyColor (''Blue Sphere'') to anyone who ships Claude and Rena with other people. (Oddly enough, the various yuri pairings, the het pairings that don't involve Rena, and pretty much any pairing involving Noel are ignored in shipping wars.) This eventually died down over the years, as very few people even raised an eyebrow when Claude and Rena's descendant was included as a party member in [[VideoGame/StarOceanIntegrityAndFaithlessness the fifth game]].
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** Edgeworth, similarly, when he isn't shipped with Phoenix, is paired with either [[SubordinateExcuse Detective Gumshoe]] or [[FriendlyEnemy Shi Long Lang]]. Most of the time these shipping factions are cordial in spite of their differences. However, there is also a VocalMinority of Edgeworth/Gumshoe and Edgeworth/Lang shippers who allege that Phoenix is an [[CrazyJealousGuy obsessive]] StalkerWithACrush at best, or straight-up {{Yandere}} for Edgeworth at absolute worst in order to prop up their pairings of choice as healthier and more wholesome. By contrast, those who dare to ship [[AmbiguouslyGay him]] with women -- particularly [[NotBloodSiblings Franziska]], [[TokenMiniMoe Kay]], or [[TheRival Justice Courtney]] are met with constant backlash and homophobia accusations from all three factions. If you want to piss off ''everybody'' in the shipping community, allege that Edgeworth is asexual, then sit back and watch the sparks fly. Bringing up the fact that Edgeworth canonically seems to be disinterested in romance [[CelibateHero in general]], even by the time of ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'' (where he's a ConfirmedBachelor who swears he'll never marry and defensively asks what's wrong with being single), will not save you either.
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** Edgeworth, similarly, when he isn't shipped with Phoenix, is paired with either [[SubordinateExcuse Detective Gumshoe]] or [[FriendlyEnemy Shi Long Lang]]. Most of the time these shipping factions are cordial in spite of their differences. However, there is also a VocalMinority of Edgeworth/Gumshoe and Edgeworth/Lang shippers who allege that Phoenix is an [[CrazyJealousGuy obsessive]] StalkerWithACrush at best, or straight-up {{Yandere}} for Edgeworth at absolute worst in order to prop up their pairings of choice as healthier and more wholesome. By contrast, those who dare to ship [[AmbiguouslyGay him]] with women -- particularly [[NotBloodSiblings Franziska]], [[TokenMiniMoe Kay]], or [[TheRival Justice Courtney]] are met with constant backlash and homophobia accusations from all three factions.factions (and no, suggesting he's bisexual won’t lessen the blow). If you want to piss off ''everybody'' in the shipping community, allege that Edgeworth is asexual, then sit back and watch the sparks fly. Bringing up the fact that Edgeworth canonically seems to be disinterested in romance [[CelibateHero in general]], even by the time of ''[[VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneySpiritOfJustice Spirit of Justice]]'' (where he's a ConfirmedBachelor who swears he'll never marry and defensively asks what's wrong with being single), will not save you either.
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* ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'': Thrall's new bride (or at least fiancée) [[HeroesWantRedheads Aggra]] is apparently the [[DieForOurShip target]] of many a RevengeFic from Thrall/Jaina shippers. Now, she ''did'' kind of [[DesignatedLoveInterest come out of nowhere]], apparently for the express ''purpose'' of ShipSinking... but even with ''that'' in mind, it gets pretty vicious. Even before Aggra existed, there was already a bit of a ship war between Arthas/Jaina and Thrall/Jaina.
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* ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'': Thrall's new bride (or at least fiancée) [[HeroesWantRedheads Aggra]] Aggra is apparently the [[DieForOurShip target]] of many a RevengeFic from Thrall/Jaina shippers. Now, she ''did'' kind of [[DesignatedLoveInterest come out of nowhere]], apparently for the express ''purpose'' of ShipSinking... but even with ''that'' in mind, it gets pretty vicious. Even before Aggra existed, there was already a bit of a ship war between Arthas/Jaina and Thrall/Jaina.
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** The same game also made the Link/Cassandra pairing popular, which was naturally at odds with those who [[FoeYayShipping shipped Cassandra with Raphael]]. This is to say nothing of the part of the fandom that [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation views]] Cassandra as either a {{Celibate Heroine}} (coming across as something of a MaidenAunt due to her apparent lack of interest in romance and how her journeys are motivated by wanting her sister Sophitia to be able to enjoy a normal life) or a lesbian (partially fueled by a 4-koma for ''SCIV'' wherein Cassandra explains gameplay mechanics to Hilde and seems to enjoy being subjected to ClothingDamage, but also based on the aforementioned character traits).
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** The same game also made the Link/Cassandra pairing popular, which was naturally at odds with those who [[FoeYayShipping shipped Cassandra with Raphael]]. This is to say nothing of the part of the fandom that [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation views]] Cassandra as either a {{Celibate Heroine}} (coming across as something of a MaidenAunt due to her apparent lack of interest in romance and how her journeys are motivated by wanting her sister Sophitia to be able to enjoy a normal life) or a lesbian (partially fueled by a 4-koma for ''SCIV'' wherein Cassandra eagerly explains gameplay mechanics to Hilde and seems to enjoy [[TooKinkyToTorture enjoy]] being subjected to ClothingDamage, but also based on the aforementioned character traits).
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* This may be a Creator/BioWare thing in general. ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' has one official ship for a male Revan, two (a het and GayOption) for female. Fans will either take them as a given, or spin off into other territories like F!Revan/Canderous. ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'' has a smaller fanfic base, but the Spirit Monk's romantic choices are mostly a non-issue. In the case of both ''Franchise/MassEffect'' and ''Franchise/DragonAge'' (see their specific entries below), [=BioWare=], to varying degrees of success, attempts to not officially designate a character the [[DevelopersDesiredDate "proper" love interest]]--every player is free to choose who their love interest is, making any conflict inherently pointless.
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* This may be a Creator/BioWare thing in general. ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' has one official ship for a male Revan, two (a het and GayOption) for female. Fans will either take them as a given, or spin off into other territories like F!Revan/Canderous. ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'' has a smaller fanfic base, but the Spirit Monk's romantic choices are mostly a non-issue. In the case of both ''Franchise/MassEffect'' and ''Franchise/DragonAge'' (see their specific entries below), [=BioWare=], to varying degrees of success, attempts to not officially designate a character the [[DevelopersDesiredDate "proper" love interest]]--every interest]] -- every player is free to choose who their love interest is, making any conflict inherently pointless.
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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s "Love Triangle Debate" over whether Cloud loved Aerith or Tifa has an almost legendary status for this[[note]]To the point where entire forums either locked or shut down, Website/TVTropes included--The main work page, Characters/FinalFantasyVIIPlayableCharacters, and YMMV.FinalFantasyVII were at one point locked for 10 years due to rampant [[Administrivia/EditWar Edit wars]][[/note]]. Even almost ''two decades'' after the game's release, there are still corners of the internet where Cloud/Tifa and Cloud/Aerith shippers wage war with each other. Debates tend to rage around whether Aerith loved "the real Cloud" or the persona he had when he was amnesiac, whether Cloud and Tifa can considered a couple by the time of ''Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren'', which Gold Saucer date can be considered canon, whether or not the Highwind "sex" scene could be considered canon, and to what extent official materials and translations support either pairing. The aftershocks of this shipping war has spread outside [=FFVII=], with shippers taking their arguements to other Final Fantasy games(specifically over if the couples in these games can be seen as a throwback to either Cloud/Aerith or Cloud/Tifa) and other Square Enix properties like Kingdom Hearts(which is itself covered below on this very page).
*** The prequel game ''VideoGame/CrisisCore'' heats up the shipping war further by expanding on Zack and Aerith's relationship, with many of their interactions parelling Aerith's interactions with Cloud in the original game. Cloud and Tifa shippers have subsequently latched onto the Zack/Aerith ship. As a key arguement of Cloud/Aerith shippers is that Aerith did come to love the real Cloud before her death, Cloud/Tifa shippers have argued that Crisis Core and the parallelism between Aerith's interactions with both Zack and Cloud proves once and for all that Aerith was solely attracted to Cloud's Zack persona, and that it is no longer possible to argue that she was attracted to Cloud for any other reason. Cloud/Aerith shippers argue in turn that nothing Zack and Aerith does in ''Crisis Core'' contradicts or sheds any new insight on her interactions with Cloud that can be interpreted as only falling for the Zack persona. Suffice to say, things are messy and the fact that the creators have kept this issue ambiguous to this day has not helped matters.
*** The release of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' further complicates things by not only reigniting the old Aerith/Tifa rivalry for Cloud, but also giving both women more screentime together with [[HoYay homoerotic subtext between them]], and also both [[ThirdOptionLoveInterest throwing in a new challenger]] in [[AscendedExtra Jessie]] and implying that [[spoiler: the party's efforts caused a CosmicRetcon undoing Zack's death, with the still surviving Zack being revealed to be looking for Aerith in the post-credits scene of ''Intergrade'']]. The possibility of the [[spoiler: ending of ''Remake'' implying that the remake trilogy being a StealthSequel [[OffTheRails undoing the events]] of the original game]] has also been fought over by shippers, with diehard Cloud/Aerith shippers arguing that [[spoiler: sequels to ''Remake'' will confirm that the game is a StealthSequel where Cloud will save Aerith this time around]] while diehard Cloud/Tifa shippers argue that [[spoiler: sequels to ''Remake'' will make it clear that the flow of the story and by extension Aerith's fate will be the same [[RedHerring regardless of what happens in ''Remake'']] or that Aerith will still die [[InSpiteOfANail no matter what]] if the story is indeed a StealthSequel of the original game]].
*** The prequel game ''VideoGame/CrisisCore'' heats up the shipping war further by expanding on Zack and Aerith's relationship, with many of their interactions parelling Aerith's interactions with Cloud in the original game. Cloud and Tifa shippers have subsequently latched onto the Zack/Aerith ship. As a key arguement of Cloud/Aerith shippers is that Aerith did come to love the real Cloud before her death, Cloud/Tifa shippers have argued that Crisis Core and the parallelism between Aerith's interactions with both Zack and Cloud proves once and for all that Aerith was solely attracted to Cloud's Zack persona, and that it is no longer possible to argue that she was attracted to Cloud for any other reason. Cloud/Aerith shippers argue in turn that nothing Zack and Aerith does in ''Crisis Core'' contradicts or sheds any new insight on her interactions with Cloud that can be interpreted as only falling for the Zack persona. Suffice to say, things are messy and the fact that the creators have kept this issue ambiguous to this day has not helped matters.
*** The release of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' further complicates things by not only reigniting the old Aerith/Tifa rivalry for Cloud, but also giving both women more screentime together with [[HoYay homoerotic subtext between them]], and also both [[ThirdOptionLoveInterest throwing in a new challenger]] in [[AscendedExtra Jessie]] and implying that [[spoiler: the party's efforts caused a CosmicRetcon undoing Zack's death, with the still surviving Zack being revealed to be looking for Aerith in the post-credits scene of ''Intergrade'']]. The possibility of the [[spoiler: ending of ''Remake'' implying that the remake trilogy being a StealthSequel [[OffTheRails undoing the events]] of the original game]] has also been fought over by shippers, with diehard Cloud/Aerith shippers arguing that [[spoiler: sequels to ''Remake'' will confirm that the game is a StealthSequel where Cloud will save Aerith this time around]] while diehard Cloud/Tifa shippers argue that [[spoiler: sequels to ''Remake'' will make it clear that the flow of the story and by extension Aerith's fate will be the same [[RedHerring regardless of what happens in ''Remake'']] or that Aerith will still die [[InSpiteOfANail no matter what]] if the story is indeed a StealthSequel of the original game]].
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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII'''s "Love Triangle Debate" over whether Cloud loved Aerith or Tifa has an almost legendary status for this[[note]]To the point where entire forums either locked or shut down, Website/TVTropes included--The included -- the main work page, Characters/FinalFantasyVIIPlayableCharacters, and YMMV.FinalFantasyVII were at one point locked for 10 years due to rampant [[Administrivia/EditWar Edit wars]][[/note]]. Even almost ''two decades'' after the game's release, there are still corners of the internet where Cloud/Tifa and Cloud/Aerith shippers wage war with each other. Debates tend to rage around whether Aerith loved "the real Cloud" or the persona he had when he was amnesiac, whether Cloud and Tifa can considered a couple by the time of ''Anime/FinalFantasyVIIAdventChildren'', which Gold Saucer date can be considered canon, whether or not [[PreClimaxClimax the Highwind "sex" scene scene]] could be considered canon, canon (as it relies on Cloud's RelationshipValues with Tifa being high enough), and to what extent official materials and translations support either pairing. The aftershocks of this shipping war has spread outside [=FFVII=], ''FFVII'', with shippers taking their arguements to other Final Fantasy games(specifically ''Final Fantasy'' games (specifically over if the couples in these games can be seen as a throwback to either Cloud/Aerith or Cloud/Tifa) and other Square Enix Creator/SquareEnix properties like Kingdom Hearts(which ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' (which is itself covered below on this very page).
*** The prequel game ''VideoGame/CrisisCore''heats heated up the shipping war further by expanding on Zack and Aerith's relationship, with many of their interactions parelling Aerith's interactions with Cloud in the original game. Cloud and Tifa shippers have subsequently [[ShipMates latched onto the Zack/Aerith ship. As a ship]]. A key arguement of Cloud/Aerith shippers is that Aerith did come to love the real Cloud before her death, while Cloud/Tifa shippers have argued argue that Crisis Core ''Crisis Core'' and the parallelism between Aerith's interactions with both Zack and Cloud proves prove once and for all that Aerith was solely attracted to Cloud's Zack persona, and that it is no longer possible to argue that she was attracted to Cloud for any other reason. Cloud/Aerith shippers argue in turn that nothing Zack and Aerith does do in ''Crisis Core'' contradicts or sheds any new insight on her Aerith's interactions with Cloud that can be interpreted as only falling for the Zack persona. Suffice to say, things are messy and the fact that the creators have kept this issue ambiguous to this day has not helped matters.
*** The release of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' furthercomplicates complicated things by not only reigniting the old Aerith/Tifa rivalry for Cloud, but also giving both women more screentime together with [[HoYay homoerotic subtext between them]], and also both them]] as well as [[ThirdOptionLoveInterest throwing in a new challenger]] in [[AscendedExtra Jessie]] and ''and'' implying that [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the party's efforts caused a CosmicRetcon undoing Zack's death, with the still surviving Zack being revealed to be looking for Aerith in the post-credits scene of ''Intergrade'']]. The possibility of the [[spoiler: ending [[spoiler:ending of ''Remake'' implying that the remake trilogy being a StealthSequel [[OffTheRails undoing the events]] of the original game]] has also been fought over by shippers, with diehard Cloud/Aerith shippers arguing that [[spoiler: sequels [[spoiler:sequels to ''Remake'' will confirm that the game is a StealthSequel where Cloud will save Aerith this time around]] while diehard Cloud/Tifa shippers argue that [[spoiler: sequels [[spoiler:sequels to ''Remake'' will make it clear that the flow of the story and by extension Aerith's fate will be the same [[RedHerring regardless of what happens in ''Remake'']] the trilogy]] or that Aerith will still die [[InSpiteOfANail no matter what]] if the story is indeed a StealthSequel of the original game]].
*** The prequel game ''VideoGame/CrisisCore''
*** The release of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' further
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** Carrying over from the [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII source material]](see above), the Cloud/Aerith vs. Cloud/Tifa love triangle debate also rears its' ugly head in the Kingdom Hearts fandom as well. Debates rage on regarding which girl is Cloud's light, whether Tifa in the Kingdom Hearts universe is a real person or the metaphysical manifestation of Cloud's inner goodness, and whether Nomura's statements about having Aerith appear in the Kingdom Hearts games is meant to shed any light about how the love triangle is meant to be perceived in the source material.
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** Carrying Carried over from the [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII the source material]](see material]] (see above), the Cloud/Aerith vs. Cloud/Tifa love triangle debate also rears its' ugly head in the Kingdom Hearts ''Kingdom Hearts'' fandom as well. Debates rage on regarding which girl is Cloud's light, whether Tifa in the Kingdom Hearts ''KH'' universe is a real person or the metaphysical manifestation of Cloud's inner goodness, and whether Nomura's [[Creator/TetsuyaNomura Nomura's]] statements about having Aerith appear in the Kingdom Hearts games is meant to shed any light about on how the love triangle is meant to be perceived in the source material.
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** [[TheProtagonist Kyo Kusanagi]] x [[TheRival Iori Yagami]] is one of the most (in)famous cases of Shipping in any video game fandom, and whoever mentions Kyo's canon girlfriend [[GirlNextDoor Yuki]] will be on the receiving end of nasty insults, with Yuki being accused of being a [[FlatCharacter bland]] DamselInDistress or worse, and sometimes getting the DieForOurShip treatment. The few Kyo/Yuki fans that are still around may react via passive-aggressively accusing all Kyo/Iori fans of being misogynistic or shallow, or take the Canon Theocrat option in opposing it on the basis of it being non-canon and thus unworthy of being shipped, or accuse it of being an abusive relationship consisting entirely of hate with zero basis other than GuyOnGuyIsHot. Not helping is that though Kyo/Yuki are [[OfficialCouple still together]] as of ''XIV'', Yuki has become more and more OutOfFocus, while the HoYay for Kyo/Iori persists with each entry and even receives deliberate ShipTease in the form of LampshadeHanging.
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** [[TheProtagonist Kyo Kusanagi]] x [[TheRival Iori Yagami]] is one of the most (in)famous cases of Shipping in any video game fandom, and whoever mentions Kyo's canon girlfriend [[GirlNextDoor Yuki]] will be on the receiving end of nasty insults, with Yuki being accused of being a [[FlatCharacter bland]] DamselInDistress or worse, and sometimes getting the DieForOurShip treatment. The few Kyo/Yuki fans that are still around may react via passive-aggressively accusing all Kyo/Iori fans of being misogynistic or shallow, or take the Canon Theocrat option in opposing it on the basis of it being non-canon and thus unworthy of being shipped, or accuse it of being an abusive relationship consisting entirely of hate with zero basis other than GuyOnGuyIsHot. Not helping is that though Kyo/Yuki are [[OfficialCouple still together]] as of ''XIV'', ''[[VideoGame/TheKingOfFightersXIV XIV]]'', Yuki has become more and more OutOfFocus, while the HoYay for Kyo/Iori persists with each entry and even receives deliberate ShipTease in the form of LampshadeHanging.
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** Commander Shepard has a variety of love interests to choose from of both sexes (not that it stops people from shipping Shepard with non-canon options too). Each pairing has its supporters, and while most of them are "live and let live," there are certain sects that are vehemently against certain characters being paired with anyone else besides Shepard (namely, Garrus, Thane, Tali, and Liara). The fact that Garrus and Tali hook up in the third game--provided they were not romanced at all--only threw gasoline on some fires. And then there's the Joker/EDI and Joker/Shepard ship combat as well...
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** Commander Shepard has a variety of love interests to choose from of both sexes (not that it stops people from shipping Shepard with non-canon options too). Each pairing has its supporters, and while most of them are "live and let live," there are certain sects that are vehemently against certain characters being paired with anyone else besides Shepard (namely, Garrus, Thane, Tali, and Liara). The fact that Garrus and Tali [[PairTheSpares hook up up]] in the third game--provided game -- provided they were not romanced at all--only all -- only threw gasoline on some fires. And then there's the Joker/EDI and Joker/Shepard ship combat as well...
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** Should Leon S. Kennedy be with [[ActionGirl Claire Redfield]]? [[DatingCatwoman Ada Wong?]] [[MadScientistsBeautifulDaughter Manuela Hidalgo?]] [[BodyguardCrush Ashley?]] [[FoeYayShipping Or Krauser]]? Fans will never fully agree. Bringing up the fact that Helena Harper, Leon's partner in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'', [[ShipperOnDeck actively supports Leon/Ada]] is ill-advised.
*** There is perhaps ''one'' thing that will unite most fans of Leon/Claire and Leon/Ada: a mutual hatred of Angela from ''[[Anime/ResidentEvilDegeneration Degeneration]]'', who--[[ChickMagnet unsurprisingly]]--expresses interest in Leon by the end of the film. It doesn't help that Angela [[TheScrappy is rather unpopular among fans]] for [[FauxActionGirl other]] [[DamselScrappy reasons]].
** Speaking of Claire, fans are torn on whether to pair her with Leon, [[TheScrappy Steve Burnside]], [[HoYay Moria Burton]], [[FoeYayShipping Wesker]] ''or'' [[BrotherSisterIncest her brother Chris]] or, [[{{Squick}} worse still]], Sherry--who is like a daughter/little sister to her.
*** There is perhaps ''one'' thing that will unite most fans of Leon/Claire and Leon/Ada: a mutual hatred of Angela from ''[[Anime/ResidentEvilDegeneration Degeneration]]'', who--[[ChickMagnet unsurprisingly]]--expresses interest in Leon by the end of the film. It doesn't help that Angela [[TheScrappy is rather unpopular among fans]] for [[FauxActionGirl other]] [[DamselScrappy reasons]].
** Speaking of Claire, fans are torn on whether to pair her with Leon, [[TheScrappy Steve Burnside]], [[HoYay Moria Burton]], [[FoeYayShipping Wesker]] ''or'' [[BrotherSisterIncest her brother Chris]] or, [[{{Squick}} worse still]], Sherry--who is like a daughter/little sister to her.
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** Should Leon S. Kennedy be with [[ActionGirl Claire Redfield]]? [[DatingCatwoman Ada Wong?]] [[MadScientistsBeautifulDaughter Manuela Hidalgo?]] [[BodyguardCrush Ashley?]] [[FoeYayShipping Or Krauser]]? Krauser?]] Fans will never fully agree. Bringing up the fact that Helena Harper, Leon's partner in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil6'', [[ShipperOnDeck actively supports Leon/Ada]] is ill-advised.
*** There is perhaps ''one'' thing that will unite most fans of Leon/Claire and Leon/Ada: a mutual hatred of Angela from ''[[Anime/ResidentEvilDegeneration Degeneration]]'',who--[[ChickMagnet unsurprisingly]]--expresses who -- [[ChickMagnet unsurprisingly]] -- expresses interest in Leon by the end of the film. It doesn't help that Angela [[TheScrappy is rather unpopular among fans]] for [[FauxActionGirl other]] [[DamselScrappy reasons]].
** Speaking of Claire, fans are torn on whether to pair her with Leon, [[TheScrappy Steve Burnside]], [[HoYay Moria Burton]], [[FoeYayShipping Wesker]] ''or'' [[BrotherSisterIncest her brother Chris]] or, [[{{Squick}} worse still]],Sherry--who Sherry -- who is like a daughter/little sister to her.
*** There is perhaps ''one'' thing that will unite most fans of Leon/Claire and Leon/Ada: a mutual hatred of Angela from ''[[Anime/ResidentEvilDegeneration Degeneration]]'',
** Speaking of Claire, fans are torn on whether to pair her with Leon, [[TheScrappy Steve Burnside]], [[HoYay Moria Burton]], [[FoeYayShipping Wesker]] ''or'' [[BrotherSisterIncest her brother Chris]] or, [[{{Squick}} worse still]],
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** The year is 2019. It's been about 20 years since the original ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil2'' where Leon and Claire last starred together and Leon/Ada fans were happily ArmedWithCanon thanks to ''[[VideoGame/ResidentEvil4 RE4]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/ResidentEvil6 RE6]]'' furthering Leon and Ada's bond (and WordOfGod stating their dialogue in ''[[Anime/ResidentEvilDamnation Damnation]]'' was written to suggest they might have gone on a date between games) while Claire and her partnership with Leon was mostly left OutOfFocus. But then [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil2Remake a long-awaited remake of RE2]] came out and [[WordOfGod intentionally]] added new Leon/Claire moments to "deepen their relationship" which deeply annoyed Leon/Ada fans who thought Capcom were trying to spoil the "superior ship." Conversely, Leon/Claire fans were overjoyed at the rekindled ship and a FlameWar ensured arguing over which girl was truly "better" for Leon. Leon/Ada shippers cite the other ship as a mere unrequited [[SmittenTeenageGirl schoolgirl crush]] on Claire's part and any moments in the remake are just ShippingGoggles from fans and DoomedByCanon anyway. Leon/Claire shippers, on the other hand, state Leon has more chemistry with Claire in the ''four scenes'' they have together than he does in the entire scenario with Ada and the ending scene where [[ShipperOnDeck Sherry]] mistook Leon and Claire for boyfriend and girlfriend and then asking them to adopt her certainly helps matters. The kicker? ''[=RE2R=]'' and [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil3Remake its sequel]] appear to be going the AlternateContinuity route from the original timeline, meaning it's entirely possible the shipping wars will be rendered completely meaningless if Capcom does go for Leon/Claire this time around.
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** The year is 2019. It's been about 20 years since the original ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil2'' where Leon and Claire last starred together and Leon/Ada fans were happily ArmedWithCanon thanks to ''[[VideoGame/ResidentEvil4 RE4]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/ResidentEvil6 RE6]]'' furthering Leon and Ada's bond (and WordOfGod stating their dialogue in ''[[Anime/ResidentEvilDamnation Damnation]]'' was written to suggest they might have gone on a date between games) while Claire and her partnership with Leon was mostly left OutOfFocus. But then [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil2Remake a long-awaited remake of RE2]] came out and [[WordOfGod intentionally]] added new Leon/Claire moments to "deepen their relationship" which deeply annoyed Leon/Ada fans who thought Capcom were trying to spoil the "superior ship." Conversely, Leon/Claire fans were overjoyed at the rekindled ship and a FlameWar ensured arguing over which girl was truly "better" for Leon. Leon/Ada shippers cite the other ship as a mere unrequited [[SmittenTeenageGirl schoolgirl crush]] on Claire's part and any moments in the remake are just ShippingGoggles from fans and DoomedByCanon anyway. Leon/Claire shippers, on the other hand, state Leon has more chemistry with Claire in the ''four scenes'' they have together than he does in the entire scenario with Ada and the ending scene where [[ShipperOnDeck Sherry]] mistook Leon and Claire for boyfriend and girlfriend and then asking them to adopt her certainly helps matters. The kicker? ''[=RE2R=]'' and [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil3Remake its sequel]] its]] [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil4Remake sequels]] appear to be going the AlternateContinuity route from the original timeline, games, meaning it's entirely possible the shipping wars will be rendered completely meaningless if Capcom does go for Leon/Claire this time around.
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*** A particularly bloody war happens between those who ship the MC with either [[KickChick Chie]], [[LadyOfBlackMagic Yukiko]], [[MissionControl Rise]] or [[TheGunslinger Naoto]]. The last one is specially complicated thanks to the huge MisaimedFandom about her gender.
*** Not that only that but Yu/Yukiko, Yu/Chie, and Yu/Naoto often have to go up against [[LesYay Chie/Yukiko]], [[VitriolicBestBuds Chie/Yosuke]], [[HoYay Yu/Yosuke]] and [[MasculineGirlFeminineBoy Naoto/Kanji]].
*** This got even more violent when ''[[UpdatedRerelease Persona 4 Golden]]'' came around. [[ThirdOptionLoveInterest Marie is a new girl in the game]], gets a lot of plot focus and [[spoiler:gives the MC a LoveConfession on live TV in the epilogue if romanced]]. If that wasn't enough, [[Anime/Persona4TheGoldenAnimation the animated adaptation]] [[AscendedExtra makes Marie the centerpiece of the main plot]] and [[AdaptationExpansion gives her scenes with Yu that didn't happen in the game proper]], furthering her status as [[ImpliedLoveInterest Yu's apparent love interest]].
*** Not that only that but Yu/Yukiko, Yu/Chie, and Yu/Naoto often have to go up against [[LesYay Chie/Yukiko]], [[VitriolicBestBuds Chie/Yosuke]], [[HoYay Yu/Yosuke]] and [[MasculineGirlFeminineBoy Naoto/Kanji]].
*** This got even more violent when ''[[UpdatedRerelease Persona 4 Golden]]'' came around. [[ThirdOptionLoveInterest Marie is a new girl in the game]], gets a lot of plot focus and [[spoiler:gives the MC a LoveConfession on live TV in the epilogue if romanced]]. If that wasn't enough, [[Anime/Persona4TheGoldenAnimation the animated adaptation]] [[AscendedExtra makes Marie the centerpiece of the main plot]] and [[AdaptationExpansion gives her scenes with Yu that didn't happen in the game proper]], furthering her status as [[ImpliedLoveInterest Yu's apparent love interest]].
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*** A particularly bloody war happens happened between those who ship the MC with either [[KickChick Chie]], [[LadyOfBlackMagic Yukiko]], [[MissionControl Rise]] or [[TheGunslinger Naoto]]. The last one is specially especially complicated thanks to the huge MisaimedFandom about her gender.
*** Not that only that but Yu/Yukiko, Yu/Chie, and Yu/Naoto often have to go up against[[LesYay [[HoYay Chie/Yukiko]], [[VitriolicBestBuds Chie/Yosuke]], [[HoYay Yu/Yosuke]] Yu/Yosuke]], and [[MasculineGirlFeminineBoy Naoto/Kanji]].
*** This got even more violent when ''[[UpdatedRerelease Persona 4 Golden]]'' came around. [[ThirdOptionLoveInterestMarie is a new New girl in the game]], Marie]] gets a lot of plot focus and [[spoiler:gives the MC a LoveConfession on live TV in the epilogue if romanced]]. If that wasn't enough, [[Anime/Persona4TheGoldenAnimation the animated adaptation]] [[AscendedExtra makes Marie the centerpiece of the main plot]] and [[AdaptationExpansion gives her scenes with Yu that didn't happen in the game proper]], furthering her status as [[ImpliedLoveInterest Yu's apparent love interest]].
*** Not that only that but Yu/Yukiko, Yu/Chie, and Yu/Naoto often have to go up against
*** This got even more violent when ''[[UpdatedRerelease Persona 4 Golden]]'' came around. [[ThirdOptionLoveInterest
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*** And that's not even mentioning the HoYay side of things between those who ship Joker with [[AmbiguouslyBi Yusuke]], [[HeterosexualLifePartners Ryuji]], or [[FoeYayShipping Akechi]], with the two former usually ganging up on the latter due to it being [[FanPreferredCouple one of Joker's most popular ships]], Akechi being a victim of AmericansHateTingle in the Western fandom, and [[spoiler:Akechi's canon affection towards the protagonist which gets cranked up in the English version]]. Fans of either of these pairings usually end up in arguments with fans who pair Joker with one of the girls (usually Makoto or Futaba) and/or [[PairTheSpares pair the party members together]], although this is somewhat downplayed in terms of Ryuji/Ann vs. Joker/Ryuji.
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*** And that's not even mentioning the HoYay side of things between those who ship Joker with [[AmbiguouslyBi Yusuke]], [[HeterosexualLifePartners Ryuji]], or [[FoeYayShipping Akechi]], with the two former usually ganging up on the latter due to it being [[FanPreferredCouple one of Joker's most popular ships]], Akechi being a victim of AmericansHateTingle in the Western fandom, and [[spoiler:Akechi's canon affection towards the protagonist which gets cranked up in the English version]]. Fans of either any of these pairings usually end up in arguments with fans who pair Joker with one of the girls (usually Makoto or Futaba) and/or [[PairTheSpares pair the party members together]], although this is somewhat downplayed in terms of Ryuji/Ann vs. Joker/Ryuji.
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*** Showing that history is perhaps doomed to repeat itself, ''[[UpdatedRerelease Persona 5 Royal]]'' introduced a new female member of the Phantom Thieves, Kasumi Yoshizawa. While reception to the character herself is largely positive, the fact that Kasumi, like Marie before her, is angled as Joker's ImpliedLoveInterest (numerous interactions outside of her Confidant, several signs of attraction to Joker as said Confidant progresses, a LoveConfession quite a while before the end of the Rank 9 conversation, having the only [[CombinationAttack Showtime]] with Joker out of the female party members--and a [[BridalCarry rather]] [[DanceOfRomance romantic-looking]] one at that, etc.) is far more contentious.
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*** Showing that history is perhaps doomed to repeat itself, ''[[UpdatedRerelease Persona 5 Royal]]'' introduced a new female member of the Phantom Thieves, Kasumi Yoshizawa. While reception to the character herself is largely positive, the fact that Kasumi, like Marie before her, is angled as Joker's ImpliedLoveInterest (numerous interactions outside of her Confidant, several signs of attraction to Joker as said Confidant progresses, a LoveConfession quite a while before the end of the Rank 9 conversation, having the only [[CombinationAttack Showtime]] with Joker out of the female party members--and members -- and a [[BridalCarry rather]] [[DanceOfRomance romantic-looking]] one at that, etc.) is far more contentious.
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** There's quite a bit of animosity between fans of Sonic/Amy and Sonic/Sally, for obvious reasons; whereas Amy is generally a StalkerWithACrush towards Sonic with only a few moments of ShipTease between the two at best, Sally Acorn is a CanonForeigner who is ''unambiguously'' [[OfficialCouple Sonic's love interest]] in her [[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM debut cartoon]] and [[Comicbook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics the comic continuation]], having shared the BigDamnKiss more than once. [[note]] Keep in mind that Sonic's modern characterization as a CelibateHero [[EarlyAdaptationWeirdness wasn't yet established]] when both adaptations were made.[[/note]] This is a somewhat odd instance of this, as the two characters only coexisted within the comics, where Amy first appeared as a 10 year-old girl whose age [[PrecociousCrush proved quite the hurdle in getting Sonic's attention]]. An awkward attempt at CanonWelding meant this continuity had her grow up into her modern teenage self through a PlotRelevantAgeUp (while still having the mind of a 10-year-old), a fact that later writers probably wished they could completely ignore. Fans did freely ignore this tidbit though, and continue to duke it out anyway.
** Since Blaze's introduction in ''VideoGame/SonicRush'', as well as ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' changing her to being from the future, [[BattleCouple Sonic/Blaze]] fans and [[LikeBrotherAndSister Silver/Blaze]] fans often fight over who would make a better couple, often leading into arguments about the canonicity of the latter game due to [[StoryReset its ending]].
** Similar to Sonic/Shadow above, [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW Whisper/Tangle]] fans often feud with any who would ship either with a male character, though for more understandable reasons. While Sonic/Shadow is strictly PlayedForLaughs in official material, Whisper/Tangle has [[WordOfGay strong support from comic staff]] and would be canon if Sega didn’t enforce [[ExecutiveMeddling a rule]] against [[NoHuggingNoKissing romance]]. It became more fraught after Issue #61 snuck the [[QueerColors Lesbian Pride flag]] behind them in a panel, which many fans took as confirming their sexualities and some took as a justification to begin gatekeeping against such rival ships as homophobic and/or lesbian erasure. It eventually led to Creator/IanFlynn [[https://twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/1677309379656265731 telling such shippers to knock it off]].
** Since Blaze's introduction in ''VideoGame/SonicRush'', as well as ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' changing her to being from the future, [[BattleCouple Sonic/Blaze]] fans and [[LikeBrotherAndSister Silver/Blaze]] fans often fight over who would make a better couple, often leading into arguments about the canonicity of the latter game due to [[StoryReset its ending]].
** Similar to Sonic/Shadow above, [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW Whisper/Tangle]] fans often feud with any who would ship either with a male character, though for more understandable reasons. While Sonic/Shadow is strictly PlayedForLaughs in official material, Whisper/Tangle has [[WordOfGay strong support from comic staff]] and would be canon if Sega didn’t enforce [[ExecutiveMeddling a rule]] against [[NoHuggingNoKissing romance]]. It became more fraught after Issue #61 snuck the [[QueerColors Lesbian Pride flag]] behind them in a panel, which many fans took as confirming their sexualities and some took as a justification to begin gatekeeping against such rival ships as homophobic and/or lesbian erasure. It eventually led to Creator/IanFlynn [[https://twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/1677309379656265731 telling such shippers to knock it off]].
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** There's quite a bit of animosity between fans of Sonic/Amy and Sonic/Sally, for obvious reasons; whereas Amy is generally a StalkerWithACrush towards Sonic with only a few moments of ShipTease between the two at best, Sally Acorn is a CanonForeigner who is ''unambiguously'' [[OfficialCouple Sonic's love interest]] in her [[WesternAnimation/SonicTheHedgehogSatAM debut cartoon]] and [[Comicbook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics the comic continuation]], having shared the BigDamnKiss more than once. [[note]] Keep [[note]]Keep in mind that Sonic's modern characterization as a CelibateHero [[EarlyAdaptationWeirdness wasn't yet established]] when both adaptations were made.[[/note]] This is a somewhat odd instance of this, as the two characters only coexisted within the comics, where Amy first appeared as a 10 year-old girl whose age [[PrecociousCrush proved quite the hurdle in getting Sonic's attention]]. An awkward attempt at CanonWelding meant this continuity had her grow up into her modern teenage self through a PlotRelevantAgeUp (while still having the mind of a 10-year-old), a fact that later writers probably wished they could completely ignore. Fans did freely ignore this tidbit though, and continue to duke it out anyway.
** Since Blaze's introduction in ''VideoGame/SonicRush'', as well as ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' changing her to being from thefuture, future (though this would be ignored in later appearances), [[BattleCouple Sonic/Blaze]] fans and [[LikeBrotherAndSister Silver/Blaze]] fans often fight over who would make a better couple, often leading into arguments about the canonicity of the latter game due to [[StoryReset its ending]].
** Similar to Sonic/Shadow above, [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW Whisper/Tangle]] fans often feud with any who would ship either with a male character, though for more understandable reasons. While Sonic/Shadow is strictly PlayedForLaughs in official material, Whisper/Tangle has [[WordOfGay strong support from comic staff]] and would be canon if Segadidn’t didn't enforce [[ExecutiveMeddling a rule]] against [[NoHuggingNoKissing romance]]. It became more fraught after Issue #61 snuck the [[QueerColors Lesbian Pride flag]] behind them in a panel, which many fans took as confirming their sexualities and some took as a justification to begin gatekeeping against such rival ships as homophobic and/or lesbian erasure. It eventually led to Creator/IanFlynn [[https://twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/1677309379656265731 telling such shippers to knock it off]].off.]]
** Since Blaze's introduction in ''VideoGame/SonicRush'', as well as ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' changing her to being from the
** Similar to Sonic/Shadow above, [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW Whisper/Tangle]] fans often feud with any who would ship either with a male character, though for more understandable reasons. While Sonic/Shadow is strictly PlayedForLaughs in official material, Whisper/Tangle has [[WordOfGay strong support from comic staff]] and would be canon if Sega
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** The same game also made the Link/Cassandra pairing popular, which was naturally at odds with those who [[FoeYayShipping shipped Cassandra with Raphael]].
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** The same game also made the Link/Cassandra pairing popular, which was naturally at odds with those who [[FoeYayShipping shipped Cassandra with Raphael]]. This is to say nothing of the part of the fandom that [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation views]] Cassandra as either a {{Celibate Heroine}} (coming across as something of a MaidenAunt due to her apparent lack of interest in romance and how her journeys are motivated by wanting her sister Sophitia to be able to enjoy a normal life) or a lesbian (partially fueled by a 4-koma for ''SCIV'' wherein Cassandra explains gameplay mechanics to Hilde and seems to enjoy being subjected to ClothingDamage, but also based on the aforementioned character traits).
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** In ''Tekken 6''[='s=] Scenario Campaign, RobotGirl newcomer Alisa Bosconovitch becomes rather close to fellow newcomer (and [[DefectorFromDecadence former Tekken Force commander]]) Lars. Their scenes together, as well as his reaction to Alisa's temporary shutdown late in the story, can be viewed through romantic lens, though their relationship never overtly progresses beyond a platonic stage. ''VideoGame/Tekken7'' would only [[ShipTease add more fuel to the fire]] by having a repaired Alisa [[TheGlomp happily tackle]] Lars during their reunion (with Lee--who brought Alisa to Lars in the first place--[[ShipperOnDeck enjoying the show]]). On the other hand, ''Anime/TekkenBloodVengeance'' has Xiaoyu teamed up with Alisa... and their scenes together can ''also'' be viewed through romantic lens. Cue bickering over who Alisa "truly" belongs with. Note that while ''Blood Vengeance'' is officially touted as taking place between ''T5'' and ''T6'', [[ContinuitySnarl the film contradicts the games' canon at multiple turns]] to the point it'd be easier to write it off as an AlternateContinuity--essentially rendering these arguments a non-issue from the start.
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** In ''Tekken 6''[='s=] Scenario Campaign, RobotGirl newcomer Alisa Bosconovitch becomes rather close to fellow newcomer (and [[DefectorFromDecadence former Tekken Force commander]]) Lars. Their scenes together, as well as his reaction to Alisa's temporary shutdown late in the story, can be viewed through romantic lens, though their relationship never overtly progresses beyond a platonic stage. ''VideoGame/Tekken7'' would only [[ShipTease add more fuel to the fire]] by having a repaired Alisa [[TheGlomp happily tackle]] Lars during their reunion (with Lee--who Lee -- who brought Alisa to Lars in the first place--[[ShipperOnDeck place -- [[ShipperOnDeck enjoying the show]]). On the other hand, ''Anime/TekkenBloodVengeance'' has Xiaoyu teamed up with Alisa... and their scenes together can ''also'' be viewed through romantic lens. Cue bickering over who Alisa "truly" belongs with. Note that while ''Blood Vengeance'' is officially touted as taking place between ''T5'' ''[[VideoGame/Tekken5 T5]]'' and ''T6'', [[ContinuitySnarl the film contradicts the games' canon at multiple turns]] to the point it'd be easier to write it off as an AlternateContinuity--essentially AlternateContinuity -- essentially rendering these arguments a non-issue from the start.
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has Toriel/Sans vs. Toriel/[[spoiler:Asgore]], though thankfully the shipping debates are relatively tame and haven't gotten bloody... [[TemptingFate Yet.]]
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* ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'' has ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'':
** Toriel/Sans vs. Toriel/[[spoiler:Asgore]], though thankfully the shipping debates are relatively tame and haven't gotten bloody... [[TemptingFate Yet.]]
** Toriel/Sans vs. Toriel/[[spoiler:Asgore]], though thankfully the shipping debates are relatively tame and haven't gotten bloody... [[TemptingFate Yet.]]
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** The cannons fire between the [[JustForPun S.S.]] Mario/Peach, Mario/Daisy, Mario/Rosalina, and Mario/Pauline. [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And then]] [[HoYay there's]] [[IncestYayShipping Mario/Luigi]].
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** The cannons fire between the [[JustForPun S.S.]] Mario/Peach, Mario/Daisy, Mario/Rosalina, and Mario/Pauline. [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg And then]] [[HoYay there's]] [[IncestYayShipping Mario/Luigi]].
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*** Not that only that but Yu/Yukiko, Yu/Chie, and Yu/Naoto often have to go up against [[HoYay Chie/Yukiko]], [[VitriolicBestBuds Chie/Yosuke]], and [[MasculineGirlFeminineBoy Naoto/Kanji]].
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*** Not that only that but Yu/Yukiko, Yu/Chie, and Yu/Naoto often have to go up against [[HoYay [[LesYay Chie/Yukiko]], [[VitriolicBestBuds Chie/Yosuke]], [[HoYay Yu/Yosuke]] and [[MasculineGirlFeminineBoy Naoto/Kanji]].
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*** The release of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' further complicates things by not only reigniting the old Aerith/Tifa rivalry for Cloud (though not to the same intensity), but also giving both women more screentime together with [[HoYay homoerotic subtext between them]], and also both [[ThirdOptionLoveInterest throwing in a new challenger]] in [[AscendedExtra Jessie]] and implying that [[spoiler: the party's efforts caused a CosmicRetcon undoing Zack's death, with the still surviving Zack being revealed to be looking for Aerith in the post-credits scene of ''Intergrade'']]. The possibility of the [[spoiler: ending of ''Remake'' implying that the remake trilogy being a StealthSequel [[OffTheRails undoing the events]] of the original game]] has also been fought over by shippers, with diehard Cloud/Aerith shippers arguing that [[spoiler: sequels to ''Remake'' will confirm that the game is a StealthSequel where Cloud will save Aerith this time around]] while diehard Cloud/Tifa shippers argue that [[spoiler: sequels to ''Remake'' will make it clear that the flow of the story and by extension Aerith's fate will be the same [[RedHerring regardless of what happens in ''Remake'']] or that Aerith will still die [[InSpiteOfANail no matter what]] if the story is indeed a StealthSequel of the original game]].
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*** The release of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyVIIRemake'' further complicates things by not only reigniting the old Aerith/Tifa rivalry for Cloud (though not to the same intensity), Cloud, but also giving both women more screentime together with [[HoYay homoerotic subtext between them]], and also both [[ThirdOptionLoveInterest throwing in a new challenger]] in [[AscendedExtra Jessie]] and implying that [[spoiler: the party's efforts caused a CosmicRetcon undoing Zack's death, with the still surviving Zack being revealed to be looking for Aerith in the post-credits scene of ''Intergrade'']]. The possibility of the [[spoiler: ending of ''Remake'' implying that the remake trilogy being a StealthSequel [[OffTheRails undoing the events]] of the original game]] has also been fought over by shippers, with diehard Cloud/Aerith shippers arguing that [[spoiler: sequels to ''Remake'' will confirm that the game is a StealthSequel where Cloud will save Aerith this time around]] while diehard Cloud/Tifa shippers argue that [[spoiler: sequels to ''Remake'' will make it clear that the flow of the story and by extension Aerith's fate will be the same [[RedHerring regardless of what happens in ''Remake'']] or that Aerith will still die [[InSpiteOfANail no matter what]] if the story is indeed a StealthSequel of the original game]].
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** The second-fiercest must be [[FoeYayShipping Knuckles/Rouge]] vs. [[TrueCompanions Shadow/Rouge]].
** [[HoYay Sonic/Shadow]] vs Sonic/Any Female Character is a popular battle.
** [[HoYay Sonic/Shadow]] vs Sonic/Any Female Character is a popular battle.
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** The second-fiercest must be [[FoeYayShipping Knuckles/Rouge]] vs. [[TrueCompanions Shadow/Rouge]].
Shadow/Rouge]]. Also doesn’t help that Shadow and Knuckles fans are prone to disputes for other reasons as well.
** [[HoYay Sonic/Shadow]] vs Sonic/Any Female Character is a popular battle. With the former being the most popular gay ship (and by some metrics is the most popular ship outright) in the fandom, it is put into contention with the wide number of such ships by default.
** [[HoYay Sonic/Shadow]] vs Sonic/Any Female Character is a popular battle. With the former being the most popular gay ship (and by some metrics is the most popular ship outright) in the fandom, it is put into contention with the wide number of such ships by default.
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** Since Blaze's introduction in ''VideoGame/{{Sonic Rush|Series}}'', as well as ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' changing her to being from the future, [[BattleCouple Sonic/Blaze]] fans and [[LikeBrotherAndSister Silver/Blaze]] fans often fight over who would make a better couple, often leading into arguments about the canonicity of the latter game due to [[StoryReset its ending]].
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** Since Blaze's introduction in ''VideoGame/{{Sonic Rush|Series}}'', ''VideoGame/SonicRush'', as well as ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006'' changing her to being from the future, [[BattleCouple Sonic/Blaze]] fans and [[LikeBrotherAndSister Silver/Blaze]] fans often fight over who would make a better couple, often leading into arguments about the canonicity of the latter game due to [[StoryReset its ending]].
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** Ragna [[LauncherOfAThousandShips is paired with practically everyone]], but the most common pairings are [[BelligerentSexualTension Ragna/Rachel]] and [[ShipTease Ragna/Noel]]. These two are the most aggressive of the fandoms, and battles are constantly waged between them. This isn't helped by the questionable nature of both pairings: on one hand, the {{age gap|Romance}} between Ragna and Rachel is ridiculous, and [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Rachel]] is ''very'' youthful appearance-wise. The games make it clear that she is an adult, though this causes {{Squick}} for some. On the other hand, the fact that Noel is [[CloningBlues a clone]] of Ragna's sister [[{{Squick}} leaves a bitter taste in some people]]. Making matters worse, the game seems to hint at ''both''.
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** Ragna [[LauncherOfAThousandShips is paired with practically everyone]], but the most common pairings are [[BelligerentSexualTension Ragna/Rachel]] and [[ShipTease Ragna/Noel]]. These two are the most aggressive of the fandoms, and battles are constantly waged between them. This isn't helped by the questionable nature of both pairings: on one hand, the {{age gap|Romance}} between Ragna and Rachel is ridiculous, and [[ReallySevenHundredYearsOld Rachel]] is ''very'' youthful appearance-wise. The games make it clear that she is an adult, though this causes {{Squick}} for some. On the other hand, the fact that Noel is [[CloningBlues a clone]] clone of Ragna's sister [[{{Squick}} leaves a bitter taste in some people]]. Making matters worse, the game seems to hint at ''both''.
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** Similar to Sonic/Shadow above, [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW Whisper/Tangle]] fans often to feud with any who would ship either with a male character, though for more understandable reasons. While Sonic/Shadow is strictly PlayedForLaughs in official material, Whisper/Tangle has [[WordOfGay strong support from comic staff]] and would be canon if Sega didn’t enforce [[ExecutiveMeddling a rule]] against [[NoHuggingNoKissing romance]]. It became more fraught after Issue #61 snuck the [[QueerColors Lesbian Pride flag]] behind them in a panel, which many fans took as confirming their sexualities and some took as a justification to begin gatekeeping against such rival ships as homophobic and/or lesbian erasure. It eventually led to Creator/IanFlynn [[https://twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/1677309379656265731 telling such shippers to knock it off]].
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** Similar to Sonic/Shadow above, [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW Whisper/Tangle]] fans often to feud with any who would ship either with a male character, though for more understandable reasons. While Sonic/Shadow is strictly PlayedForLaughs in official material, Whisper/Tangle has [[WordOfGay strong support from comic staff]] and would be canon if Sega didn’t enforce [[ExecutiveMeddling a rule]] against [[NoHuggingNoKissing romance]]. It became more fraught after Issue #61 snuck the [[QueerColors Lesbian Pride flag]] behind them in a panel, which many fans took as confirming their sexualities and some took as a justification to begin gatekeeping against such rival ships as homophobic and/or lesbian erasure. It eventually led to Creator/IanFlynn [[https://twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/1677309379656265731 telling such shippers to knock it off]].
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** Similar to Sonic/Shadow above, [[ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogIDW Whisper/Tangle]] fans often to feud with any who would ship either with a male character, though for more understandable reasons. While Sonic/Shadow is strictly PlayedForLaughs in official material, Whisper/Tangle has [[WordOfGay strong support from comic staff]] and would be canon if Sega didn’t enforce [[ExecutiveMeddling a rule]] against [[NoHuggingNoKissing romance]]. It became more fraught after Issue #61 snuck the [[QueerColors Lesbian Pride flag]] behind them in a panel, which many fans took as confirming their sexualities and some took as a justification to begin gatekeeping against such rival ships as homophobic and/or lesbian erasure. It eventually led to Creator/IanFlynn [[https://twitter.com/IanFlynnBKC/status/1677309379656265731 telling such shippers to knock it off]].
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** [[OfficialCouple Jin/Tsubaki]] fans often attack poor [[DieForOurShip Noel]], even though Jin/Noel was sunk in the port of ''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueCalamityTrigger Calamity Trigger]]''. [[MoralityPet Jin/Makoto]] had been gaining popularity as a pairing since ''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift Continuum Shift]]'', but conflicts between fans of the two pairings are rare. ''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueChronophantasma Chronophantasma]]'' may simply have ended up igniting a cold war, however. Oh, and there's a portion of the community who prefer to TakeAThirdOption and leave Jin as a CelibateHero, instead supporting [[MoralityPet Hakumen/Tsubaki]], causing more friction. Finally, we have fans of Jin and [[ShyBlueHairedGirl Mai Natsume]], the protagonist of ''[[Manga/BlazBlueRemixHeart BlazBlue: Remix Heart]]'': a likely reasoning behind this is similarities between them and [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Ky/Dizzy]]. (Never mind that in the actual doujinshi, Mai, outside of getting a FirstKiss from [[AmbiguouslyBi Makoto]], has been {{Ship Tease}}d with three other characters [[note]]her roommate Cajun, fellow classmate (and relative of Kagura) Taro, and Mai's distant relative (who is unaware of the relationship at the moment)/other roommate/family assassin Shiori, with Taro currently the frontrunner[[/note]], none of whom are Jin. Or the fact that [[spoiler:Mai goes missing after graduation according to ''Chronophantasma'', though she does make appearances in ''[[UpdatedRerelease Extend]]'' as well as ''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralFiction Central Fiction]]'']]. Even then, Jin/Mai is treated as a strictly platonic SenpaiKohai relationship in-series.)
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** [[OfficialCouple Jin/Tsubaki]] fans often attack poor [[DieForOurShip Noel]], even though Jin/Noel was sunk in the port of ''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueCalamityTrigger Calamity Trigger]]''. [[MoralityPet Jin/Makoto]] had been gaining popularity as a pairing since ''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueContinuumShift Continuum Shift]]'', but conflicts between fans of the two pairings are rare. ''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueChronophantasma Chronophantasma]]'' may simply have ended up igniting a cold war, however. Oh, and there's a portion of the community who prefer to TakeAThirdOption and leave Jin as a CelibateHero, instead supporting [[MoralityPet Hakumen/Tsubaki]], causing more friction. Finally, we have fans of Jin and [[ShyBlueHairedGirl Mai Natsume]], the protagonist of ''[[Manga/BlazBlueRemixHeart BlazBlue: Remix Heart]]'': a likely reasoning behind this is similarities between them and [[VideoGame/GuiltyGear Ky/Dizzy]]. (Never mind that in the actual doujinshi, Mai, outside of getting a FirstKiss from [[AmbiguouslyBi Makoto]], has been {{Ship Tease}}d with three other characters [[note]]her roommate Cajun, fellow classmate (and relative of Kagura) Taro, and Mai's distant relative (who is unaware of the relationship at the moment)/other roommate/family assassin Shiori, with Taro currently the frontrunner[[/note]], none of whom are Jin. Or the fact that [[spoiler:Mai goes missing after graduation according to ''Chronophantasma'', though she does make appearances in ''[[UpdatedRerelease Extend]]'' as well as ''[[VideoGame/BlazBlueCentralFiction Central Fiction]]'']]. Even then, Jin/Mai is treated as a strictly platonic SenpaiKohai relationship in-series.)
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* The ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' fandom is divided between people who ship either [[MagicContractRomance Shirou/Saber]], [[BelligerentSexualTension Shirou/Rin]], or [[SenpaiKohai Shirou/Sakura]]. When these factions meet, things can get nasty very quickly. Sakura gets flack for being, according to her naysayers, a [[NotBadassEnoughForFans "girly thus weak"]] DamselInDistress who constantly whines about her predicament and is often portrayed in fanfiction as being EntitledToHaveYou towards Shirou and TheResenter towards Saber. People who have issues with Saber accuse her of being [[WolverinePublicity Type]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad Moon's]] [[CreatorsPet cash cow]] who ''also'' [[TheAtoner drowns]] [[HeroicSelfDeprecation in a puddle of her own angst]] (''especially'' in [[Literature/FateZero the prequel]]). And people who have issues with Rin believe she's a {{Jerkass}} {{Tsundere}} who wants nothing more than to [[DieForOurShip steal Sakura's man]].
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* The ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' fandom is divided between people who ship either [[MagicContractRomance Shirou/Saber]], [[BelligerentSexualTension Shirou/Rin]], or [[SenpaiKohai Shirou/Sakura]].Shirou/Sakura. When these factions meet, things can get nasty very quickly. Sakura gets flack for being, according to her naysayers, a [[NotBadassEnoughForFans "girly thus weak"]] DamselInDistress who constantly whines about her predicament and is often portrayed in fanfiction as being EntitledToHaveYou towards Shirou and TheResenter towards Saber. People who have issues with Saber accuse her of being [[WolverinePublicity Type]] [[SpotlightStealingSquad Moon's]] [[CreatorsPet cash cow]] who ''also'' [[TheAtoner drowns]] [[HeroicSelfDeprecation in a puddle of her own angst]] (''especially'' in [[Literature/FateZero the prequel]]). And people who have issues with Rin believe she's a {{Jerkass}} {{Tsundere}} who wants nothing more than to [[DieForOurShip steal Sakura's man]].
