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* ChildByRape: Alina was repeatedly raped by the German farmer she was forced to work for as a Polish slave laborer, then got pregnant and gave birth to a girl. Her daughter was taken away by the farmer because he and his wife couldn't have children. After he stated his intent to sire a son by her as well, she threatened him with a knife, and was sent off to Auschwitz, though she escapes before there.
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* ChildByRape: Alina was repeatedly raped by the German farmer she was forced to work for as a Polish slave laborer, then got pregnant and gave birth to a girl. Her daughter was taken away by the farmer because he and his wife couldn't have children. After he stated his intent to sire a son by her as well, she threatened him with a knife, and was sent off to Auschwitz, though she escapes before there.arrival.
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* DeathSeeker: Implied with Friedhelm; when a Russian bomber flies over the squad's position, his fellow soldier tells him to put his cigarette out. Instead, he takes a long, ostentatious drag.
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* DeathSeeker: Implied with Friedhelm; when a Russian bomber flies over the squad's position, his fellow soldier tells him to put his cigarette out. Instead, he takes a long, ostentatious drag. [[spoiler: At the end he gets the Soviet soldiers to kill him.]]
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* DirtyCommies: A couple of the Wehrmacht soldiers have this attitude. One of them is just plain terrified of communists.
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* DirtyCommies: A couple of the Wehrmacht soldiers have this attitude. One of them is just plain terrified of communists. The Polish partisans of the Home Army also hate the communists (the feelings were mutual-in the wake of the war, many were shot or imprisoned).
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* ParentalFavoritism: Both Winter parents indulge in this. Wilhelm is clearly his stern father's favorite, while younger Friedhelm is [[DotingParent doted upon]] by his mother, who makes Wilhelm swear to bring his little brother back safely. When Friedhelm returns for sick leave after a battle in which Wilhelm is believed to have died, their father barely conceals his wish [[YouShouldHaveDiedInstead that Friedhelm had died instead]].
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* ParentalFavoritism: Both Winter parents indulge in this. Wilhelm is clearly his stern father's favorite, while younger Friedhelm is [[DotingParent doted upon]] by his mother, who makes Wilhelm swear to bring his little brother back safely. When Friedhelm returns for sick leave after a battle in which Wilhelm is believed to have died, their father barely conceals his wish [[YouShouldHaveDiedInstead that Friedhelm had died instead]]. He thus returns to the front despite his mother's tearful plea.
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** SS-Sturmbannführer Hiemer makes a Ukraine mob let go of a Jewish girl when Wilhelm intervenes, [[spoiler: then horribly subverts it by shooting her in the head.]]
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** SS-Sturmbannführer Hiemer makes a Ukraine mob Ukrainian auxiliary cop let go of a Jewish girl when Wilhelm intervenes, [[spoiler: then horribly subverts it by shooting her in the head.]]
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* RapeAsBackstory: [[spoiler: Alina]] was repeatedly raped by the German farmer for whom she performed forced labour, giving birth to a girl who was taken away by the SS. When she decided to fight back against the farmer, she was immediately shipped off to Auschwitz.
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* RapeAsBackstory: [[spoiler: Alina]] was repeatedly raped by the German farmer for whom she performed forced labour, giving birth to a girl who was taken away by the SS. him because he and his wife couldn't have children. When she decided to fight back against the farmer, farmer after he wanted to also father a son by her, she was immediately shipped off to Auschwitz.
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* SexForSolace: When battle nurse Charlotte believes that her longtime friend and secret love Wilhelm has died in battle, she throws herself at her medical superior for comfort.
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* SexForSolace: When battle combat nurse Charlotte believes that her longtime friend and secret love Wilhelm has died in battle, she throws herself at her medical superior for comfort.
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* ShiksaGoddess: Greta is this for Viktor. His parents are less than amused - mostly because they fear him falling foul of the law.
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* ShiksaGoddess: Greta is this for Viktor. His parents are less than amused - mostly because they fear him falling foul of the law.law (having sex with an "Aryan" was punishable by death for Jews in the Nazi era).
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* StarcrossedLovers: Greta and Viktor as a German and a Jew.
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* StarcrossedLovers: Greta and Viktor as a gentile German and a Jew.
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler:Hiemer has a short but powerful one in the few minutes between Friedhelm shoots him and he bleeds out. He spends the whole time staring at Friedhelm in utter disbelief, seemingly not comprehending why the man he thought was an unquestionably loyal tool would suddenly turn on him]].
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler:Hiemer has a short but powerful one in the few minutes between when Friedhelm shoots him and he bleeds out. He spends the whole time staring at Friedhelm in utter disbelief, seemingly not comprehending why the man he thought was an unquestionably loyal tool would suddenly turn on him]].
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%%* WarIsHell: The message of the entire movie.
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%%* WarIsHell: The message of the entire movie.series.
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: The Polish Home Army is not portrayed as very heroic. Aside from Aline the others are openly antisemitic, leaving Jews bound for the concentration camp in a cattle car to die after they raid a German train. Viktor rescues them, revealing he's Jewish, and they want him killed for it. Their leader has softened a bit to him though by this point. [[spoiler: Instead of killing Viktor, he fakes it and lets him, with a good luck wish.]] This depictions caused protest by Poles. [[note]]In reality, though antisemitism indeed was common among Poles, many rescued Jews nonetheless, Home Army members included, more than any other nation in fact. More than 6,000 individuals have been awarded for having done so. It's estimated that thousands of Poles were executed for this by the Nazi German regime.[[/note]]
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: The Polish Home Army is not portrayed as very heroic. Aside from Aline the others are openly antisemitic, leaving Jews bound for the concentration camp in a cattle car to die after they raid a German train. Viktor rescues them, revealing he's Jewish, and they want him killed for it. Their leader has softened a bit to him though by this point. [[spoiler: Instead of killing Viktor, he fakes it and lets him, with a good luck wish.]] This depictions caused protest by Poles. [[note]]In reality, though antisemitism indeed was common among Poles, many rescued Jews nonetheless, Home Army members included, more than any other nation in fact. More than Over 6,000 individuals have been awarded for recognized as having done so. It's estimated that thousands of Poles were executed for this by the Nazi German regime.[[/note]]
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: The Polish Home Army is not portrayed as very heroic. Aside from Aline the others are openly antisemitic, leaving Jews bound for the concentration camp in a cattle car to die after they raid a German train. Viktor rescues them, revealing he's Jewish, and they want him killed for it. Their leader has softened a bit to him though by this point. [[spoiler: Instead of killing Viktor, he fakes it and lets him, with a good luck wish.]] This depictions caused protest by Poles.
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: The Polish Home Army is not portrayed as very heroic. Aside from Aline the others are openly antisemitic, leaving Jews bound for the concentration camp in a cattle car to die after they raid a German train. Viktor rescues them, revealing he's Jewish, and they want him killed for it. Their leader has softened a bit to him though by this point. [[spoiler: Instead of killing Viktor, he fakes it and lets him, with a good luck wish.]] This depictions caused protest by Poles. [[note]]In reality, though antisemitism indeed was common among Poles, many rescued Jews nonetheless, Home Army members included, more than any other nation in fact. More than 6,000 individuals have been awarded for having done so. It's estimated that thousands of Poles were executed for this by the Nazi German regime.[[/note]]
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* ChildByRape: Alina was repeatedly raped by the German farmer she was forced to work for as a Polish slave laborer, then got pregnant and gave birth to a girl. Her daughter was taken away by the farmer because he and his wife couldn't have children. After he stated his intent to sire a son by her as well, she threatened him with a knife, and was sent to Auschwitz.
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* ChildByRape: Alina was repeatedly raped by the German farmer she was forced to work for as a Polish slave laborer, then got pregnant and gave birth to a girl. Her daughter was taken away by the farmer because he and his wife couldn't have children. After he stated his intent to sire a son by her as well, she threatened him with a knife, and was sent off to Auschwitz.Auschwitz, though she escapes before there.
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: The Polish Home Army is not portrayed as very heroic. Aside from Aline the others are openly antisemitic, leaving Jews bound for the concentration camp in a cattle car to die after they raid a German train. Viktor rescues them, revealing he's Jewish, and they want him killed for it. Their leader has softened a bit to him though by this point. [[spoiler: Instead of killing Viktor, he fakes it and lets him, with a good luck wish.]]
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* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: The Polish Home Army is not portrayed as very heroic. Aside from Aline the others are openly antisemitic, leaving Jews bound for the concentration camp in a cattle car to die after they raid a German train. Viktor rescues them, revealing he's Jewish, and they want him killed for it. Their leader has softened a bit to him though by this point. [[spoiler: Instead of killing Viktor, he fakes it and lets him, with a good luck wish.]]]] This depictions caused protest by Poles.
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* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted - none of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany. Interestingly, this actually became one of the most prominent points of criticism, within Germany and without - the series was accused of going too far the other way and whitewashing German history by suggesting "''of course'' none of these regular, lovely young folks actually supported the Nazi agenda, they were just victims of history!" Obviously they would be far less sympathetic then. Even so, Charly turns in a Jewish nurse to what she knows will be certain death (though the woman survives), and Friedhelm executes numerous unarmed people, including a little boy.
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* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted - none of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany. Interestingly, this actually became one of the most prominent points of criticism, within Germany and without - the series was accused of going too far the other way and whitewashing German history by suggesting "''of course'' none of these regular, lovely young folks actually supported the Nazi agenda, they were just victims of history!" Obviously they would be far less sympathetic then. [[spoiler: Even so, Charly turns in a Jewish nurse to what she knows will be certain death (though the woman survives), and Friedhelm executes numerous unarmed people, including a little boy. boy.]]
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* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted - none of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany. Interestingly, this actually became one of the most prominent points of criticism, within Germany and without - the series was accused of going too far the other way and whitewashing German history by suggesting "''of course'' none of these regular, lovely young folks actually supported the Nazi agenda, they were just victims of history!" Obviously they would be far less sympathetic then. [[spoiler: Even so, Charly turns in a Jewish nurse to what she knows will be certain death (though the woman survives), and Friedhelm executes numerous unarmed people, including a little boy.
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* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted - none of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany. Interestingly, this actually became one of the most prominent points of criticism, within Germany and without - the series was accused of going too far the other way and whitewashing German history by suggesting "''of course'' none of these regular, lovely young folks actually supported the Nazi agenda, they were just victims of history!" Obviously they would be far less sympathetic then. [[spoiler: Even so, Charly turns in a Jewish nurse to what she knows will be certain death (though the woman survives), and Friedhelm executes numerous unarmed people, including a little boy.
* ChildByRape: Alina was repeatedly raped by the German farmer she was forced to work for as a Polish slave laborer, then got pregnant and gave birth to a girl. Her daughter was taken away by the farmer because he and his wife couldn't have children. After he stated his intent to sire a son by her as well, she threatened him with a knife, and was sent to Auschwitz.
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* DeathSeeker: Implied with Friedhelm; when a Russian bomber flies over the squad's position, his fellow soldier tells him to put his cigarette out. Instead, he takes a long, ostentatious drag. [[spoiler: At the end he gets the Soviet soldiers to kill him.]]
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* DeathSeeker: Implied with Friedhelm; when a Russian bomber flies over the squad's position, his fellow soldier tells him to put his cigarette out. Instead, he takes a long, ostentatious drag. [[spoiler: At the end he gets the Soviet soldiers to kill him.]]
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* DirtyCommies: A couple of the Wehrmacht soldiers have this attitude. One of them is just plain terrified of communists. The Polish partisans of the Home Army also hate the communists.
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* DirtyCommies: A couple of the Wehrmacht soldiers have this attitude. One of them is just plain terrified of communists. The Polish partisans of the Home Army also hate the communists.
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* ParentalFavoritism: Both Winter parents indulge in this. Wilhelm is clearly his stern father's favorite, while younger Friedhelm is [[DotingParent doted upon]] by his mother, who makes Wilhelm swear to bring his little brother back safely. When Friedhelm returns for sick leave after a battle in which Wilhelm is believed to have died, their father barely conceals his wish [[YouShouldHaveDiedInstead that Friedhelm had died instead]]. He thus returns to the front despite his mother's tearful plea.]]
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* ParentalFavoritism: Both Winter parents indulge in this. Wilhelm is clearly his stern father's favorite, while younger Friedhelm is [[DotingParent doted upon]] by his mother, who makes Wilhelm swear to bring his little brother back safely. When Friedhelm returns for sick leave after a battle in which Wilhelm is believed to have died, their father barely conceals his wish [[YouShouldHaveDiedInstead that Friedhelm had died instead]]. He thus returns to the front despite his mother's tearful plea.]]
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** SS-Sturmbannführer Hiemer makes a Ukrainian auxiliary cop let go of a Jewish girl when Wilhelm intervenes, [[spoiler: then horribly subverts it by shooting her in the head.]]
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** SS-Sturmbannführer Hiemer makes a Ukrainian auxiliary cop Ukraine mob let go of a Jewish girl when Wilhelm intervenes, [[spoiler: then horribly subverts it by shooting her in the head.]]
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* RapeAsBackstory: [[spoiler: Alina]] was repeatedly raped by the German farmer for whom she performed forced labour, giving birth to a girl who was taken away by him because he and his wife couldn't have children. When she decided to fight back against the farmer after he wanted to father a son on her, she was immediately shipped off to Auschwitz.
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* RapeAsBackstory: [[spoiler: Alina]] was repeatedly raped by the German farmer for whom she performed forced labour, giving birth to a girl who was taken away by him because he and his wife couldn't have children. the SS. When she decided to fight back against the farmer after he wanted to father a son on her, farmer, she was immediately shipped off to Auschwitz.
* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: The Polish Home Army is not portrayed as very heroic. Aside from Aline the others are openly antisemitic, leaving Jews bound for the concentration camp in a cattle car to die after they raid a German train. Viktor rescues them, revealing he's Jewish, and they want him killed for it. Their leader has softened a bit to him though by this point. [[spoiler: Instead of killing Viktor, he fakes it and lets him, with a good luck wish.]]
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* SexForSolace: When combat nurse Charlotte believes that her longtime friend and secret love Wilhelm has died in battle, she throws herself at her medical superior for comfort.
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* SexForSolace: When combat battle nurse Charlotte believes that her longtime friend and secret love Wilhelm has died in battle, she throws herself at her medical superior for comfort.
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* ShiksaGoddess: Greta is this for Viktor. His parents are less than amused - mostly because they fear him falling foul of the law (having sex with an "Aryan" was punishable by death for Jews.
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* ShiksaGoddess: Greta is this for Viktor. His parents are less than amused - mostly because they fear him falling foul of the law (having sex with an "Aryan" was punishable by death for Jews.law.
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* StarcrossedLovers: Greta and Viktor as a gentile German and a Jew.
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* StarcrossedLovers: Greta and Viktor as a gentile German and a Jew.
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler:Hiemer has a short but powerful one in the few minutes between when Friedhelm shoots him and he bleeds out. He spends the whole time staring at Friedhelm in utter disbelief, seemingly not comprehending why the man he thought was an unquestionably loyal tool would suddenly turn on him]].
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler:Hiemer has a short but powerful one in the few minutes between when Friedhelm shoots him and he bleeds out. He spends the whole time staring at Friedhelm in utter disbelief, seemingly not comprehending why the man he thought was an unquestionably loyal tool would suddenly turn on him]].
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* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted - none of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany. Interestingly, this actually became one of the most prominent points of criticism, within Germany and without - the series was accused of going too far the other way and whitewashing German history by suggesting "''of course'' none of these regular, lovely young folks actually supported the Nazi agenda, they were just victims of history!" Obviously they would be far less sympathetic then. Even so, Charly turns in a Jewish nurse to what she knows will be certain death (though the woman survives), and Friedhelm executes numerous unarmed people, including a little boy.
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* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted - none of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany. Interestingly, this actually became one of the most prominent points of criticism, within Germany and without - the series was accused of going too far the other way and whitewashing German history by suggesting "''of course'' none of these regular, lovely young folks actually supported the Nazi agenda, they were just victims of history!" Obviously they would be far less sympathetic then. [[spoiler: Even so, Charly turns in a Jewish nurse to what she knows will be certain death (though the woman survives), and Friedhelm executes numerous unarmed people, including a little boy.
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* DeathSeeker: Implied with Friedhelm; when a Russian bomber flies over the squad's position, his fellow soldier tells him to put his cigarette out. Instead, he takes a long, ostentatious drag.
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* DeathSeeker: Implied with Friedhelm; when a Russian bomber flies over the squad's position, his fellow soldier tells him to put his cigarette out. Instead, he takes a long, ostentatious drag. [[spoiler: At the end he gets the Soviet soldiers to kill him.]]
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* DirtyCommies: A couple of the Wehrmacht soldiers have this attitude. One of them is just plain terrified of communists.
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* DirtyCommies: A couple of the Wehrmacht soldiers have this attitude. One of them is just plain terrified of communists. The Polish partisans of the Home Army also hate the communists.
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* ParentalFavoritism: Both Winter parents indulge in this. Wilhelm is clearly his stern father's favorite, while younger Friedhelm is [[DotingParent doted upon]] by his mother, who makes Wilhelm swear to bring his little brother back safely. When Friedhelm returns for sick leave after a battle in which Wilhelm is believed to have died, their father barely conceals his wish [[YouShouldHaveDiedInstead that Friedhelm had died instead]].
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* ParentalFavoritism: Both Winter parents indulge in this. Wilhelm is clearly his stern father's favorite, while younger Friedhelm is [[DotingParent doted upon]] by his mother, who makes Wilhelm swear to bring his little brother back safely. When Friedhelm returns for sick leave after a battle in which Wilhelm is believed to have died, their father barely conceals his wish [[YouShouldHaveDiedInstead that Friedhelm had died instead]]. He thus returns to the front despite his mother's tearful plea.]]
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** SS-Sturmbannführer Hiemer makes a Ukraine mob let go of a Jewish girl when Wilhelm intervenes, [[spoiler: then horribly subverts it by shooting her in the head.]]
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** SS-Sturmbannführer Hiemer makes a Ukraine mob Ukrainian auxiliary cop let go of a Jewish girl when Wilhelm intervenes, [[spoiler: then horribly subverts it by shooting her in the head.]]
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* RapeAsBackstory: [[spoiler: Alina]] was repeatedly raped by the German farmer for whom she performed forced labour, giving birth to a girl who was taken away by the SS. When she decided to fight back against the farmer, she was immediately shipped off to Auschwitz.
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* RapeAsBackstory: [[spoiler: Alina]] was repeatedly raped by the German farmer for whom she performed forced labour, giving birth to a girl who was taken away by the SS. him because he and his wife couldn't have children. When she decided to fight back against the farmer, farmer after he wanted to father a son on her, she was immediately shipped off to Auschwitz.
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* SexForSolace: When battle nurse Charlotte believes that her longtime friend and secret love Wilhelm has died in battle, she throws herself at her medical superior for comfort.
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* SexForSolace: When battle combat nurse Charlotte believes that her longtime friend and secret love Wilhelm has died in battle, she throws herself at her medical superior for comfort.
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* ShiksaGoddess: Greta is this for Viktor. His parents are less than amused - mostly because they fear him falling foul of the law.
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* ShiksaGoddess: Greta is this for Viktor. His parents are less than amused - mostly because they fear him falling foul of the law.law (having sex with an "Aryan" was punishable by death for Jews.
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* StarcrossedLovers: Greta and Viktor as a German and a Jew.
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* StarcrossedLovers: Greta and Viktor as a gentile German and a Jew.
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* TokenMinority: Viktor is the only Jew between the boys.
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* TokenMinority: Viktor is the only Jew between the boys.friends.
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler:Hiemer has a short but powerful one in the few minutes between Friedhelm shoots him and he bleeds out. He spends the whole time staring at Friedhelm in utter disbelief, seemingly not comprehending why the man he thought was an unquestionably loyal tool would suddenly turn on him]].
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler:Hiemer has a short but powerful one in the few minutes between when Friedhelm shoots him and he bleeds out. He spends the whole time staring at Friedhelm in utter disbelief, seemingly not comprehending why the man he thought was an unquestionably loyal tool would suddenly turn on him]].
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* AlliterativeName: Wilhelm Winter
* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted - none of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany. Interestingly, this actually became one of the most prominent points of criticism, within Germany and without - the series was accused of going too far the other way and whitewashing German history by suggesting "''of course'' none of these regular, lovely young folks actually supported the Nazi agenda, they were just victims of history!"
* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted - none of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany. Interestingly, this actually became one of the most prominent points of criticism, within Germany and without - the series was accused of going too far the other way and whitewashing German history by suggesting "''of course'' none of these regular, lovely young folks actually supported the Nazi agenda, they were just victims of history!"
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* AlliterativeName: Wilhelm Winter
Winter.
* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted - none of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany. Interestingly, this actually became one of the most prominent points of criticism, within Germany and without - the series was accused of going too far the other way and whitewashing German history by suggesting "''of course'' none of these regular, lovely young folks actually supported the Nazi agenda, they were just victims of history!" Obviously they would be far less sympathetic then. Even so, Charly turns in a Jewish nurse to what she knows will be certain death (though the woman survives), and Friedhelm executes numerous unarmed people, including a little boy.
* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted - none of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany. Interestingly, this actually became one of the most prominent points of criticism, within Germany and without - the series was accused of going too far the other way and whitewashing German history by suggesting "''of course'' none of these regular, lovely young folks actually supported the Nazi agenda, they were just victims of history!" Obviously they would be far less sympathetic then. Even so, Charly turns in a Jewish nurse to what she knows will be certain death (though the woman survives), and Friedhelm executes numerous unarmed people, including a little boy.
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* DeathOfAChild: In the first episode Hiemer shoots a little Jewish girl in the head.
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* InfantImmortality: Averted in the first episode when Hiemer shoots a little Jewish girl in the head.
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''Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter'' (literally ''"Our Mothers, Our Fathers"'', titled ''Generation War'' in the US, UK and France) is a 2013 German miniseries. Sort of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', but with Germans. And [[CrapsackWorld extra grim]], since it's primarily set on the Eastern Front and involves UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust.
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''Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter'' (literally ''"Our Mothers, Our Fathers"'', titled ''Generation War'' in the US, UK and France) is a 2013 German miniseries.drama miniseries set in UsefulNotes/WorldWarII. Sort of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', but with Germans. And [[CrapsackWorld extra grim]], since it's primarily set on the Eastern Front and involves UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust.
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''Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter'' (literally ''"Our Mothers, Our Fathers"'', titled ''Generation War'' in the US, UK and France) is a 2013 German miniseries. Sort of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', but with Germans. And [[CrapsackWorld extra grim]], since it's primarily set on the Eastern Front, and UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust shows up.
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''Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter'' (literally ''"Our Mothers, Our Fathers"'', titled ''Generation War'' in the US, UK and France) is a 2013 German miniseries. Sort of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', but with Germans. And [[CrapsackWorld extra grim]], since it's primarily set on the Eastern Front, Front and UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust shows up.
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''Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter'' (literally ''"Our Mothers, Our Fathers"'', titled ''Generation War'' in the US and the UK) is a 2013 German miniseries. Sort of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', but with Germans. And [[CrapsackWorld extra grim]], since it's primarily set on the Eastern Front, and UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust shows up.
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''Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter'' (literally ''"Our Mothers, Our Fathers"'', titled ''Generation War'' in the US US, UK and the UK) France) is a 2013 German miniseries. Sort of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', but with Germans. And [[CrapsackWorld extra grim]], since it's primarily set on the Eastern Front, and UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust shows up.
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* LandMineGoesClick: Zig-zagged. When one of Wilhelm and Friedhelm's fellow soldiers steps on a mine in a muddy swamp, the rest of the unit has time to evacuate the blast radius before the doomed private blows himself up. Shortly afterwards, however, when the survivors force the local civilians to walk through the swamp as human mine detectors, any mines they step on go off immediately.
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* NaiveNewcomer: [[WideEyedIdealist Charlotte]] as a nurse at the Eastern Front. The freezing look that the chief nurse gives her speaks for itself.
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** [[WideEyedIdealist Charlotte]] as a nurse at the Eastern Front. The freezing look that the chief nurse gives her speaks foritself.itself.
** Greta, during her morale boosting tour at the front, seems tremendously out of touch, assuming planes will wait for her - or that she can just call someone for a ride - in the midst of battle.
** Many of the NewMeat soldiers posted to Wilhelm and Friedhelm's unit are depicted this way, overly eager for battle and clueless about conditions at the front. At one point, the veteran soldiers even refuse to learn their names until they've survived four weeks in combat.
** [[WideEyedIdealist Charlotte]] as a nurse at the Eastern Front. The freezing look that the chief nurse gives her speaks for
** Greta, during her morale boosting tour at the front, seems tremendously out of touch, assuming planes will wait for her - or that she can just call someone for a ride - in the midst of battle.
** Many of the NewMeat soldiers posted to Wilhelm and Friedhelm's unit are depicted this way, overly eager for battle and clueless about conditions at the front. At one point, the veteran soldiers even refuse to learn their names until they've survived four weeks in combat.
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* NewMeat: Fresh-from-bootcamp replacements are posted to Wilhelm and Friedhelm's unit on several occasions. At the end, [[spoiler:Friedhelm]] leads a squad that, aside from himself and one man old enough to be a World War I veteran, consists entirely of [[ChildSoldier teenaged boys]] who have never seen combat.
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* SecretPolice: The Gestapo break up the protagonists' party at the beginning of the series. SS and Gestapo officers go on to play significant roles in most of the protagonists' lives, particularly Friedhelm, who is posted under one for much of the series, and Greta, who [[spoiler: sleeps with a Gestapo officer but is still ultimately arrested and shot.]]
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* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted. None of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany.
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* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted. None Averted - none of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany.Germany. Interestingly, this actually became one of the most prominent points of criticism, within Germany and without - the series was accused of going too far the other way and whitewashing German history by suggesting "''of course'' none of these regular, lovely young folks actually supported the Nazi agenda, they were just victims of history!"
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** [[Spoiler:Lilija]] helps Charlotte at the military hospital with her expertise, but gets reported as a Jew and taken away.
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** [[Spoiler:Lilija]] [[spoiler:Lilija]] helps Charlotte at the military hospital with her expertise, but gets reported as a Jew and taken away.
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** Charlotte take a time in the evacuating time to find Sonja. They left without her.
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** Charlotte take a little time in the evacuating time process to find Sonja. They Other Germans left without her.
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* BigDamnHero: As written above [[spoiler: Charlotte is rescued just in time by Lilja from being raped by a Soviet soldier.]]
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* BigDamnHero: As written above [[spoiler: Charlotte is rescued just in time by Lilja Lilija from being raped by a Soviet soldier.]]
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** Lilija [[Spoiler:Lilija]] helps Charlotte at the military hospital with her expertise, but gets reported as a Jew and taken away.
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** Charlotte take a time in the evacuating time to find Sonja. They left without her.
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* EvilVersusEvil: UsefulNotes/NaziGermany versus the [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn USSR]]. One of the [[LaResistance Polish partisans]] puts it correctly;
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* EvilVersusEvil: UsefulNotes/NaziGermany versus the [[SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn [[UsefulNotes/SovietRussiaUkraineAndSoOn USSR]]. One of the [[LaResistance Polish partisans]] puts it correctly;
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''Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter'' (literally ''Our Mothers, Our Fathers'', titled ''Generation War'' in the US and the UK) is a 2013 German miniseries. Sort of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', but with Germans. And [[CrapsackWorld extra grim]], since it's primarily set on the Eastern Front, and UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust shows up.
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''Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter'' (literally ''Our ''"Our Mothers, Our Fathers'', Fathers"'', titled ''Generation War'' in the US and the UK) is a 2013 German miniseries. Sort of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', but with Germans. And [[CrapsackWorld extra grim]], since it's primarily set on the Eastern Front, and UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust shows up.
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[[CaptainObvious Of course, it doesn't quite work out like that]]. And as the months and years drag by, and the fighting becomes ever more brutal, for these young people the war becomes a desperate struggle not only to survive, but to retain their humanity even while serving an inhumane regime.
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[[CaptainObvious Of course, it doesn't quite work out like that]]. And as the months and years drag by, and the fighting becomes ever more brutal, for these young people the war becomes a desperate struggle not only to survive, but to retain their humanity even while serving an [[UsefulNotes/NaziGermany inhumane regime.regime]].
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* DeathFakedForYou: When the Polish resistance group decide they want to kill Viktor for being German and/or Jewish, the leader, who doesn't agree, takes Victor off into the forest, [[SoundOnlyDeath fires a shot into the ground]], and tells him to get lost.
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* MyCountryRightOrWrong: Tragically, Mr. Goldstein, a veteran of WorldWarI who is a proud German and determined to remain loyal to his country even as the persecution of Jews intensifies.
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* MyCountryRightOrWrong: Tragically, Mr. Goldstein, a veteran of WorldWarI UsefulNotes/WorldWarI who is a proud German and determined to remain loyal to his country even as the persecution of Jews intensifies.
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* ParentalFavoritism: Both Winter parents indulge in this. Wilhelm is clearly his stern father's favorite, while younger Friedhelm is [[DotingParent doted upon]] by his mother, who makes Wilhelm swear to bring his little brother back safely. When Frieldhelm returns for sick leave after a battle in which Wilhelm is believed to have died, their father barely conceals his wish [[YouShouldHaveDiedInstead that Friedhelm had died instead]].
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* ParentalFavoritism: Both Winter parents indulge in this. Wilhelm is clearly his stern father's favorite, while younger Friedhelm is [[DotingParent doted upon]] by his mother, who makes Wilhelm swear to bring his little brother back safely. When Frieldhelm Friedhelm returns for sick leave after a battle in which Wilhelm is believed to have died, their father barely conceals his wish [[YouShouldHaveDiedInstead that Friedhelm had died instead]].
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* DadTheVeteran: Viktor's father fought in WorldWarI [[spoiler: but this won't save him from being deported as a Jew.]]
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* DadTheVeteran: Viktor's father fought in WorldWarI UsefulNotes/WorldWarI [[spoiler: but this won't save him from being deported as a Jew.]]
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* ActionGirl: Alina [[DoNotGoGentle out of a train bound for a concentration camp]] with just a knife and sheer grit. With a bit of help.
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* ActionGirl: Alina [[DoNotGoGentle breaks out of a train bound for a concentration camp]] with just a knife and sheer grit. With a bit of help.
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** When [[BearerOfBadNews Friedhelm]] tells Charlotte that [[spoiler: Wilhelm]] died, she goes and has an affair with [[spoiler: [[MayflyDecemberRomance the old doctor]]]].
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** When [[BearerOfBadNews Friedhelm]] tells Charlotte that [[spoiler: Wilhelm]] died, is dead, she goes and has starts an affair with [[spoiler: [[MayflyDecemberRomance the old doctor]]]].doctor]]]] in her grief.
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"''Our Mothers, Our Fathers''" (aka [[AdaptationNameChange ''Generation War'']] War'' in the US and the UK). Sort of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', but with Germans. And [[CrapsackWorld extra grim]], since it's primarily set on the Eastern Front, and UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust shows up.
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"''Our Mothers, Our Fathers''" (aka [[AdaptationNameChange ''Generation War'' War'']] in the US and the UK). Sort of ''Series/BandOfBrothers'', but with Germans. And [[CrapsackWorld extra grim]], since it's primarily set on the Eastern Front, and UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust shows up.
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* Irony: Wilhelm, a respected lieutenant, becomes so disillusioned with the war and the suffering it brings that he deserts. Friedhelm, a draftee who has known this all along, keeps serving the army until the very end.
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* Irony: {{Irony}}: Wilhelm, a respected lieutenant, becomes so disillusioned with the war and the suffering it brings that he deserts. Friedhelm, a draftee who has known this all along, keeps serving the army until the very end.
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* ActionGirl: Alina [[DoNotGoGentle out of a train bound for a concentration camp]] with just a knife and sheer grit. With a bit of help.
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* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted, none of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany.
* AloofBigBrother: Wilhelm, who has previous experience from the invasions of Poland and France, and who has attained the rank of Lieutenant, considers his bookish brother, a new recruit, to be too soft for the work of a soldier, and confesses to feeling ashamed of him on occasion. On the other hand, he also admires Friedhelm's wit and intelligence.
* AloofBigBrother: Wilhelm, who has previous experience from the invasions of Poland and France, and who has attained the rank of Lieutenant, considers his bookish brother, a new recruit, to be too soft for the work of a soldier, and confesses to feeling ashamed of him on occasion. On the other hand, he also admires Friedhelm's wit and intelligence.
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* AllGermansAreNazis: Averted, none Averted. None of the five main characters are Nazis and are depicted as normal people living in Nazi Germany.
* AloofBigBrother: Wilhelm, who has previous experience from the invasions of Poland and France, and who has attained the rank of Lieutenant, considers his bookish brother, a new recruit, to be too soft for the work of a soldier, and confesses to feeling ashamed of him on occasion. On the other hand, he also admires Friedhelm's [[TheSmartGuy wit andintelligence.intelligence]].
* AnguishedDeclarationOfLove: Charlotte to Wilhelm, after she discovers he's alive.
* AloofBigBrother: Wilhelm, who has previous experience from the invasions of Poland and France, and who has attained the rank of Lieutenant, considers his bookish brother, a new recruit, to be too soft for the work of a soldier, and confesses to feeling ashamed of him on occasion. On the other hand, he also admires Friedhelm's [[TheSmartGuy wit and
* AnguishedDeclarationOfLove: Charlotte to Wilhelm, after she discovers he's alive.
* Irony: Wilhelm, a respected lieutenant, becomes so disillusioned with the war and the suffering it brings that he deserts. Friedhelm, a draftee who has known this all along, keeps serving the army until the very end.
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Wilhelm tells a superior officer that partisan activity has increased, and the officer drily replies "Thanks to our far-sighted policy of treating these people as inferiors."
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: Wilhelm tells a superior officer that partisan activity has increased, and the officer drily [[DeadpanSnarker drily]] replies "Thanks to our far-sighted policy of treating these people as inferiors."
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* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: Seeing as this is fascist Nazi Germany, it's not surprising.
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* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: Seeing as this is set in fascist Nazi Germany, it's not surprising.
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** Averted when Wilhelm refuses to torch a peasant couple's home. Orders come by telegraph just in time decreeing that no more houses may be burned, since it reveals the Germans are retreating.
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* ShaggyDogStory: [[spoiler: Charlotte attempts to locate her friend Sonja before the hospital evacuation, but they both get stranded as the Russians descend on them. They shoot Sonja anyway for collaborating with the Germans as a nurse.]]
** [[spoiler: Greta breaks up with Viktor and sleeps with Dorn in order to get him passage to America. The Gestapo arrest him before he can leave the country, rendering Greta's efforts useless.]]
** [[spoiler: Greta breaks up with Viktor and sleeps with Dorn in order to get him passage to America. The Gestapo arrest him before he can leave the country, rendering Greta's efforts useless.]]