History Sandbox / AintTooProudToBegWickCheck

# ''Characters.GravityFallsBillCipher'': Bill pleads for his life against Stanley in the latter’s mind, promising him riches, galaxies, the whole works just for his life to be spared, only to be obliterated right after.

'''''[[green:Analysis]]''''': A lot of the tropes that also serve as deconstructions of the IdealHero can invariably apply to villains anyway. A good example of this is StrawNihilist, something that's easy to take at face value because a) it's a subtrope of TheWarOnStraw and b) the page image is call-and-response, which means that we (or in this case, ''only'' me, because TVTropes has a mild effect on my life and whatnot) automatically think "oh, this trope could be about the Seven Deadly Sins whether or not that's what the Joker's invoking". Filling in the blanks for AintTooProudToBeg is much harder since, not only is the trope applied to ''villains'' as well ad nauseam, but the current page image may not even reflect the trope (unless it's an inversion since the coyote's clearly the one in power). I blame Administrivia/TropeDecay overall, but even downplayed examples of the trope (like not losing composure while begging) have gone the way of the dodo in favor of more bombastic, largely incorrect examples:

** 8/62 are correct (morally neutral character/hero begging for mercy on their or someone else's behalf in front of a powerful entity)
** 15/62 are villainous examples

[[folder:[[pink:Correct as defined above (8/62)]]]]

# ''NightmareFuel.DeathBattle'': The noises Homelander makes when Omni-Man tears his jaw are absolutely chilling. He screams in raw, genuine terror, but the sounds of his screams are muffled and distorted by his utter lack of lower jaw, and it very clearly sounds like he's desperately begging for his life in his final moments.

[[folder:Villainous examples (15/62)]]

'''''Basic Issues''''': This has been an issue for a while, but OppositeTropes is pretty careful with the tropes that do contrast AintTooProudToBeg in regards to constraints of Drive-By Editors that may or may not have previously done a wick check on the trope. It's hard to refute DefiantToTheEnd and FaceDeathWithDignity when they have incomplete {{Playing With}} pages because they're pretty flexible anyway, but there are issues tied with and in addition to this trope's {{Playing With}} page rarely seeing any updates. There's also some chairsiness with the trope, which for me is really fun to explore since really, [[SincerityMode who on this site doesn't like talking about people sitting on chairs]]? Nevertheless, I'm done rambling (until the analysis) so here goes:

'''''Basic Issues''''':
This has been an issue for a while, but OppositeTropes is pretty careful with the tropes that do contrast AintTooProudToBeg in regards to constraints of Drive-By Editors that may or may not have previously done a wick check on the trope. It's hard to refute DefiantToTheEnd and FaceDeathWithDignity when they have incomplete {{Playing With}} pages because they're pretty flexible anyway, but there are issues tied with and in addition to this trope's {{Playing With}} page rarely seeing any updates. There's also some chairsiness with the trope, which for me is really fun to explore since really, [[SincerityMode who on this site doesn't like talking about people sitting on chairs]]? Nevertheless, I'm done rambling (until the analysis) so here goes:

# ''Series.{{Taskmaster}}'': In "Fear of Failure", when it looks like Joe Wilkinson's impressive hole-in-one with a potato is going to be disqualified owing to an inadvertent rule violation, Joe becomes so distraught and desperate to salvage his achievement that he ends up crawling across the studio on his hands and knees to beg in front of Greg. '''''(I think the line below cinches it, lol)'''''

# ''WesternAnimation.{{Gargoyles}}'': David Xanatos is perfectly willing to ask Goliath politely for help rescuing his fiancee. It's just he'll save it for Plan D, after plans A through C don't pan out. (Plan E, after Goliath turns him down, is even more desperate — "plant a tracker on Goliath and follow him so I'm there if he changes his mind.") '''''(at first I thought this was just chair, but if he already promised to save plan D ''without'' begging I don't see how that connects to this trope or to GodzillaThreshold)'''''
# ''VideoGame.SystemShock'': Edward Diego left a log that has him begging SHODAN to spare him. To make this even more pathetic, almost right next to this log is another log that had him bragging to Tri-Optimum after he had the Citadel's defense system shoot down the shuttle with an investigation team, arrogantly stating that he is untouchable with SHODAN under his control. The dates of the logs are roughly only two weeks apart. '''''(misuse for {{Gaslighting}}, in addition to him pulling IWasNeverHere mid-game specifically to avoid any broadcasts actively imploring the survivors to come)'''''
# ''VideoGame.MortalKombat9'': At the climax of Story Mode of there is an interesting example that is kind of both A and B. When Shao Kahn arrives to merge his realm with Earth, out of the surviving four heroes, only Raiden remains. Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade are too beaten to stand up to Shao Kahn and are easily dashed aside, and Liu Kang has died trying to kill Raiden. As the triumphant Emperor steps forward, Raiden falls to one knee and consigns the Earth to him. It's kind of like A, since the elder gods have decreed that merging the realms without victory in a Mortal Kombat tournament is forbidden, so Raiden could be seen as supplicating the Emperor's ego and drawing him into a trap. However, it could also be considered B, as at this point Raiden's faith that the elder gods will do anything to help the Earth is more or less gone, and he could be simply trying to hand over the Earth to Shao Kahn without the need for any more killing. Either way, the elder gods finally do intervene at the last possible second, but the victory is a bittersweet one indeed. '''''(misuse for SubterfugeJudo. I think the aversion here is kind of self-explanatory, though admittedly as someone who's only played the game once I'm not sure how Type B applies outside of him having less fatalities (I do know that he has more over-the-top rib-breaking if you keep spamming that one Injustice move))'''''
# ''Characters.BetrayalKnowsMyName'': A minor example. When the Giou Clan Elders reveal that Takashiro abandoned Yuki at Asahi Oraphanage and not his mother, Hotsuma was the first to beg for Yuki's forgiveness and apologize for lying to him. He also reveals the Awful Truth about the circumstances of Yuki's birth. '''''(misuse for NoMatterHowMuchIBeg in relation to his suicide, though I think him appealing to Yuki's nature has shades of BuryMeNotOnTheLonePrairie since it's hinted that both are worried about dying in madness)'''''
# ''Literature.WindsOfFate'': When Starblade k'Sheyna relives his torture in his nightmares, one scene he and we both see is Starblade kissing Mornelithe's feet in adoration. '''''(I know this is misuse in some form, but the only corresponding trope I can think of is CrossingTheBurntBridge, though in this case it seems even more short term than actual begging, so it's more easily definable as an averted trope)'''''
# ''VideoGame.DragonQuestII'': After being confronted and beaten once, Orochi beats a hasty retreat back to Zipangu and tries to reassume the queen act, demanding in a hushed voice that the Hero keep their mouth shut and she'll call it even. '''''(?????)'''''
# ''Recap.StarTrekEnterpriseS01E12SilentEnemy'': Archer decides to swallow his pride and simply call a Vulcan ship for help. However, the aliens have blown up their subspace amplifiers, leaving them cut off from further support. '''''(technically a chair, but KnowWhenToFoldEm not being used is making me lean toward an aversion)'''''
# ''Recap.WakfuS2E19AFistfulOfKamas'': Elaine and Black Ink are so desperate for any business that when their initial offer of 1,500 Kamas is refused by Ruel and he starts to walk away Elaine immediately drops it to 1,000 and begs him to reconsider, and they don't make much noise about Ruel's offer of just 400 Kamas. '''''(again, appealing to someone's nature to show that they can read them well)'''''

# ''Farscape.TropesAToC'': In the grand finale, Crichton is about to unleash his wormhole weapon, and asks Scorpius, who has been dogging him for years, if he really wants to see the weapon. Scorpius, for his part, is more than happy to get to begging if it means the culmination of his life's goal. '''''(self-explanatory)'''''

# ''Manga.{{Gintama}}'': Hijikata pleads with the Yorozuya to protect the Shinsengumi when he knows Itou is up to something bad and he himself is possessed by an otaku spirit from his sword. '''''(more realistic, but still a minor, humble request that wasn't intended to be begging, at least not fully)'''''
# ''Characters.CerberusHigh'': In Chapter 10 Xiomara seeks out Kazuki with her two main assassins to plead with him to join her league of assassins. '''''(more humble requesting)'''''
# ''Characters.DantesInferno'': He starts begging for his life(?) after Dante gets his sycthe. Not like it does him any good, of course. It's an odd thing for the usually unflappable concept of death to do, which arguably is a major hint that the "fight" is little more than a Dying Power Fantasy on Dante's part. '''''(self-explanatory, at least for the most part)'''''

--> "Someone [[AintTooProudToBeg cover the caster!]]" '''''(just a downplayed version of AFriendInNeed)'''''
# ''Film.{{Rattlesnake}}'': When Katrina kidnaps Billy at gunpoint and forces him to drive to a remote canyon, he breaks down and begs Katrina to let him live. He cries so hard that there's snot visibly coming out of his nose. However, this proves to be part of a WoundedGazelleGambit, even if he was channeling real fear. '''''(Billy is the DesignatedVillain in this movie according to the YMMV page, so it was probably meant to come off as him being a ManipulativeBastard with very slight traces of fear; even if it wasn't, I feel like it only makes sense for the WoundedGazelleGambit to outweigh any begging by a pretty large amount, since Tropes are Tools and all)'''''
# ''Characters.ThreeIdiots'': When [Chatur Ramalingam] realizes that the rival he mocked for being a schoolteacher is the very person that he must secure a deal with for his company, Chatur goes from high and mighty to a helpless sycophant to Rancho/Phunsukh Wangdu. '''''(Wasn't he just offering to perform a ritual?)'''''
# ''EvilIsNotAToy.Literature'': In the ''Literature/{{Ultramarines}}'' novel ''Nightbringer'', [[spoiler: Kasimir de Valtos, a greedy and corrupt human industrialist collaborates with Dark Eldar pirates to acquire the Necrontyr artefacts required to free the C'Tan known as the Nightbringer, in the belief it will make him immortal for freeing it as a reward. Unfortunately when they free the creature, the minds of Kasimir and his allies are briefly connected to the Nightbringer's through an empathic link as it awakens, at which point [[GoMadFromTheRevelation their minds breaks at the realisation the Nightbringer is as far removed from them as they are from insects, and the C'Tan has no reason to even acknowledge his existence, let alone reward him]]. Most of those present [[DrivenToSuicide go mad and kill themselves on the spot]] and [[AintTooProudToBeg Kasimir is reduced to tearfully begging the Nightbringer to make him immortal]], which only results in the creature deigning to notice him for long enough to kill him]]. '''''(misuse for a VillainousBreakdown, which is also him [[GoMadFromTheRevelation Going Mad From The Revelation]] and not really knowing what he's doing, which is what the creature feeds on)'''''
# ''Recap.GilmoreGirlsS02E11'': Um, yeah. Lorelai is totally too proud to ask her parents for a loan to get rid of the termites. And too proud to accept any help from her mother at all. But she does beg the bankers. '''''(self-explanatory)'''''
# ''Manga.WaGaNaWaUmishi'': Coast Guard boss Kaizai is not too proud to beg ordinary fisherman to stop interrupting a rescue, much to the surprise of the fisherman who had demanded that he go on his knees. '''''(self-explanatory)'''''

# ''Recap.TheOuterLimits1995S4E17Lithia'': The episode ends with Major Mercer begging very loudly not to be shoved into a cryo-tube. He gets louder when he finds out the one sentencing him to this knows his name because she's his fiancée, whom he thought was long dead. '''''(trying to defy a ShaggyDogStory doesn't equal begging)'''''

# ''Characters.BioShockInfinite'': Not that it helps [Jeremiah Fink] stop Daisy Fitzroy from shooting him in the face. '''''(He just says "no" over and over again while not even facing her)'''''
# ''Characters.TheBoys2019Supes'': The moment Billy catches up to him in the bathroom, Mesmer tries to offer help in regards to the whereabouts of Becca. This later turns into a frantic plea of IHaveAFamily the moment he allows Billy to reciprocate his mind. '''''(He was largely just asking what Billy expected him to do, and the "Please, I have a daughter!" line was confusion and anger)'''''

# ''Characters.BeautyAndTheBeast'': No one begs for his life like Gaston! Despite his goading the Beast to fight him, once the Beast gains his Heroic Second Wind and holds Gaston over the castle rooftop Gaston pathetically begs The Beast to not hurt him saying he'll do anything The Beast wants.

# ''Characters.TheBoys2019Supes'': The moment Billy catches up to him in the bathroom, Mesmer tries to offer help in regards to the whereabouts of Becca. This later turns into a frantic plea of I Have a Family the moment he allows Billy to reciprocate his mind. '''''(He was largely just asking what Billy expected him to do, and the "Please, I have a daughter!" line was confusion and anger)'''''

# ''VideoGame.DragonQuestII'': After being confronted and beaten once, Orochi beats a hasty retreat back to Zipangu and tries to reassume the queen act, demanding in a hushed voice that the Hero keep their mouth shut and she'll call it even. '''''(?????)''''''

# ''Characters.RatchetAndClankVillains'': As [Emperor Nefarious is] being dragged into a rift by a kraken, he begs Dr. Nefarious to save him, tempting him with We Can Rule Together. His counterpart shares some choice words before kicking him to his fate.

# ''Characters.FarCry1'': In the PC version, once [Agent Doyle] mortally wounded by Jack he resorts to begging for his life.

# ''Fanfic.InWithTheOldOutWithTheNew'': Kano (context: [[spoiler:Sonya's kidnapper, torturer and rapist]]) Sonya's begs for mercy. Sonya, understandably, isn't offering any.

# ''Characters/TheIliad'': [Priam w]alks alone to the Greek camp to beg for the body of Hector. Unlike other examples, this is a positive This example contains a YMMV entry. It should be moved to the YMMV tab.Tear Jerker moment.

# ''Characters.TalesOfArise'': (context: Rimwell, who's usually a SquishyWizard is the one saying this) "Someone [[AintTooProudToBeg cover the caster!]]" '''''(just a downplayed version of AFriendInNeed)'''''

# ''VideoGame.MortalKombat9'': At the climax of Story Mode of there is an interesting example that is kind of both A and B. When Shao Kahn arrives to merge his realm with Earth, out of the surviving four heroes, only Raiden remains. Johnny Cage and Sonya Blade are too beaten to stand up to Shao Kahn and are easily dashed aside, and Liu Kang has died trying to kill Raiden. As the triumphant Emperor steps forward, Raiden falls to one knee and consigns the Earth to him. It's kind of like A, since the elder gods have decreed that merging the realms without victory in a Mortal Kombat tournament is forbidden, so Raiden could be seen as supplicating the Emperor's ego and drawing him into a trap. However, it could also be considered B, as at this point Raiden's faith that the elder gods will do anything to help the Earth is more or less gone, and he could be simply trying to hand over the Earth to Shao Kahn without the need for any more killing. Either way, the elder gods finally do intervene at the last possible second, but the victory is a bittersweet one indeed. '''''(misuse for SubterfugeJudo. I think the aversion here is kind of self-explanatory, though admittedly as someone who's only played the game once I'm not sure how Type B applies outside of him having less fatalities (I do know that he has more over-the-top rib-breaking if you keep spamming that one Injustice move)'''''

->"You wanted to frighten us. We're frightened. You wanted to show us we were inadequate. For the moment, I grant that. You wanted me to say I need you. I NEED YOU!"

->"You wanted to frighten us. We're frightened. You wanted to show us we were inadequate. For the moment, I grant that. You wanted me to say I need you. I NEED YOU!"\\

# WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles: Mr. Incredible begs Syndrome not to shoot down his family's airplane.

** Make a definition-only page/an index. While I don't prefer this, I think if it goes the way of the Bishonen people will gradually catch on to the more black-and-white aspects of the trope (non-heroic examples if they're possible, mercy vs following in someone's footsteps before dying, etc).

# ''Series.{{Taskmaster}}'': In "Fear of Failure", when it looks like Joe Wilkinson's impressive hole-in-one with a potato is going to be disqualified owing to an inadvertent rule violation, Joe becomes so distraught and desperate to salvage his achievement that he ends up crawling across the studio on his hands and knees to beg in front of Greg. ''(I think the line below cinches it, lol)''