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* KickTheSonOfABitch: To test the Anti-Life Equation, Gretchen forces Jace to reveal all her machinations to Brion and Tara, knowing it would alienate her from them forever.

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** Bruce and Tim come out of costume to the Outsider's tower to see Dick, who is still in terrible condition after the events of the previous episode. That Bruce didn't bother to conceal his identity before coming shows how [[TheyReallyDoLoveEachOther concerned he must have been about Dick, as he's usually extremely protective of his secret identity]]. This results in Brion [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome recognizing him]] and asking if that's [[MillionairePlayboy Bruce Wayne]] visiting.

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** Bruce and Tim come out of costume to the Outsider's tower to see Dick, who is still in terrible condition after the events of the previous episode. That Bruce didn't bother to conceal his identity before coming shows how [[TheyReallyDoLoveEachOther concerned he must have been about Dick, as he's usually extremely protective of his secret identity]]. This results in Brion [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome recognizing him]] him and asking if that's [[MillionairePlayboy Bruce Wayne]] visiting.



* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: The Anti-Light ended up leaving behind a few too many clues and odd details during the rescue of Jefferson and Dick from the Goode estate, and their carelessness leads to both the Light and Jefferson deducing their deception. The latter immediately exposes it to everyone, which naturally earns them a healthy dose of WhatTheHellHero from their allies since--surprise, surprise--people don't like being lied to and manipulated, even by their friends and even if it makes them look good.

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As revealed in the Light conference at the end, the Markovs escaping was always part of the plan, because Terra needs to stay ensconsed with the heroes.


** Tara and Brion learn that Jace was working with the Ultra-Humanite, which they share with the team after escaping. They also listen to Goode expound upon the nature of the Anti-Life Equation and why she wants Halo, though they don't reveal this information with the others onscreen.
** Vandal Savage learns that Darkseid has the Anti-Life Equation. A very swift reveal, as he only got it this episode.

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** Tara and Brion learn that Jace was working with the Ultra-Humanite, which they share with the team after escaping. They also listen to Goode expound upon the nature of the Anti-Life Equation and why she wants Halo, though they don't reveal this information with the others onscreen.\n** Vandal Savage learns that Darkseid has the Anti-Life Equation. A very swift reveal, as he only got it this episode.



** Deathstroke and Terra's relationship is more wholesome than it originally seemed, and Deathstroke might have his own plans separate from the rest of The Light, given that he supplies Terra with the nullifier device that allows her and Brion to escape Granny Goode and Ultra-Humanite, and considering that both parties are surprised by this, it suggests that Markov Siblings weren't originally going to be allowed to escape.

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** Deathstroke and Terra's relationship is somewhat more wholesome than it originally seemed, and Deathstroke might have his own plans separate from the rest of The Light, given that he supplies Terra with the nullifier device that allows her and Brion to escape Granny Goode and Ultra-Humanite, and considering that both parties are surprised by this, it suggests that Markov Siblings weren't originally going to be allowed to escape.seemed.
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* AbsenteeActor: Artemis is absent this episode, as she was in the previous one. It's more glaring this time around due to the big InternalReveal and the fact that Nightwing, M'gann, Kaldur, and Conner are all present, but she's not. Presumably, this is because the voice acting budget couldn't support another actor on top of everyone else. And unlike Conner, who doesn't get a single spoken line but still appears, it would be too out-of-character for her not to say ''something'' in reaction to events.
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* AbsenteeActor: Artemis is absent this episode, as she was in the previous one. It's more glaring this time around due to the big InternalReveal and the fact that Nightwing, M'gann, Kaldur, and Conner are all present, but she's not. Presumably, this is because the voice acting budget couldn't support another actor on top of [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters everyone else]]. And unlike Conner, who doesn't get a single spoken line but still appears, it would be too out-of-character for her not to say ''something'' in reaction to events.

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* AbsenteeActor: Artemis is absent this episode, as she was in the previous one. It's more glaring this time around due to the big InternalReveal and the fact that Nightwing, M'gann, Kaldur, and Conner are all present, but she's not. Presumably, this is because the voice acting budget couldn't support another actor on top of [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters everyone else]].else. And unlike Conner, who doesn't get a single spoken line but still appears, it would be too out-of-character for her not to say ''something'' in reaction to events.
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* AdaptationInspiration: The flashback with Terra and Deathstroke is near-identical to a scene from the Teen Titan's comics, with Deathstroke enraging Terra while training her in physical combat to the point that she suddenly lets loose on him with her powers. The only real difference between the two is scale; Terra's display of power in the comics was ''much'' larger than in the [[AdaptationalWimp show]].

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* AdaptationInspiration: The flashback with Terra and Deathstroke is near-identical to a scene from the Teen Titan's ''Teen Titans'' comics, with Deathstroke enraging Terra while training her in physical combat to the point that she suddenly lets loose on him with her powers. The only real difference between the two is scale; Terra's display of power in the comics was ''much'' larger than in the [[AdaptationalWimp show]].

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* MirroringFactions: During Beast Boy's own WhatTheHellHero towards Oracle, she points out that the Outsiders was formed to buck the Justice League and fight Luthor and Granny on the outside, which is somewhat similar to what the Anti-Light was doing. Beast Boy's reaction is obviously a "touche" moment.



* NotSoDifferent: During Beast Boy's own WhatTheHellHero towards Oracle, she points out that the Outsiders was formed to buck the Justice League and fight Luthor and Granny on the outside, which is somewhat similar to what the Anti-Light was doing. Beast Boy's reaction is obviously a "touche" moment.
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** Bruce and Tim come out of costume to the Outsider's tower to see Dick, who is still in terrible condition after the events of the previous episode. That Bruce didn't bother to conceal his identity before coming shows how [[TheyReallyDoLoveEachOther concerned he must have been about Dick, as he's usually extremely protective of his secret identity]]. This results in Brion [[RealityEnsues recognizing him]] and asking if that's [[MillionairePlayboy Bruce Wayne]] visiting.

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** Bruce and Tim come out of costume to the Outsider's tower to see Dick, who is still in terrible condition after the events of the previous episode. That Bruce didn't bother to conceal his identity before coming shows how [[TheyReallyDoLoveEachOther concerned he must have been about Dick, as he's usually extremely protective of his secret identity]]. This results in Brion [[RealityEnsues [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome recognizing him]] and asking if that's [[MillionairePlayboy Bruce Wayne]] visiting.

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* RealityEnsues: The Anti-Light ended up leaving behind a few too many clues and odd details during the rescue of Jefferson and Dick from the Goode estate, and their carelessness leads to both the Light and Jefferson deducing their deception. The latter immediately exposes it to everyone, which naturally earns them a healthy dose of WhatTheHellHero from their allies since--surprise,surprise--people don't like being lied to and manipulated, even by their friends and even if it makes them look good.


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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: The Anti-Light ended up leaving behind a few too many clues and odd details during the rescue of Jefferson and Dick from the Goode estate, and their carelessness leads to both the Light and Jefferson deducing their deception. The latter immediately exposes it to everyone, which naturally earns them a healthy dose of WhatTheHellHero from their allies since--surprise, surprise--people don't like being lied to and manipulated, even by their friends and even if it makes them look good.
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* TheVoiceless: Very apparent in this episode. Between Violet, Jace, Brion, Tara, Jefferson and Kaldur, Dick, Bruce, Gretchen, Barbara, Garfield, and Deathstroke[[note]] Ultra-Humanite is voiced by Weisman, who ''probably'' doesn't get paid for voice acting[[/note]], the voice acting budget must have been stretched to the limit already. Any character they didn't need to speak, didn't speak. Hence, despite appearing and having roles in the episode that would normally require that they have spoken dialogue, Savage, M'gann, Conner, and Tim don't speak one word between the four of them in the whole episode. M'gann and Conner get around this by holding a private conversation through telepathy, even though they're arguing in the open. In the case of Savage, this [[TropesAreTools works pretty well]] to demonstrate just how shocked he is. Victor and Forager, meanwhile, aren't really invested in the conflict and thus just [[PassThePopcorn watch the fireworks]].

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* TheVoiceless: Very apparent in this episode. Between Violet, Jace, Brion, Tara, Jefferson and Kaldur, Dick, Bruce, Gretchen, Barbara, Garfield, and Deathstroke[[note]] Ultra-Humanite is voiced by Weisman, who ''probably'' doesn't get paid for voice acting[[/note]], the voice acting budget must have been stretched to the limit already. Any character they didn't need to speak, didn't speak. Hence, despite appearing and having roles in the episode that would normally require that they have spoken dialogue, Savage, M'gann, Conner, and Tim don't speak one word between the four of them in the whole episode. M'gann and Conner get around this by holding a private conversation through telepathy, even though they're arguing in the open. In the case of Savage, this [[TropesAreTools [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools works pretty well]] to demonstrate just how shocked he is. Victor and Forager, meanwhile, aren't really invested in the conflict and thus just [[PassThePopcorn watch the fireworks]].
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Locations: Western Mongolia, Hollywood, Apocalips.

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Locations: Western Mongolia, Hollywood.

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Date: January 22.

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** Jace is knowingly working with the Ultra-Humanite and is far more malicious than she's been previously portrayed.

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** Jace is knowingly working with the Ultra-Humanite and is far more malicious than she's been previously portrayed.appeared.
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** It's not made clear in this or the previous episode why the X-Pit had a ''far'' more extreme and lasting effect on Dick than it did Jefferson. Jefferson seems to have fully recovered by the start of this episode while Dick needs Alfred to all-but carry him to get out of bed near the very end, despite both being exposed to the effects of the X-Pit for an identical length of time. It seems the torture inflicted on victims of the pit is both physical and psychological, and Dick has likely experienced more trauma throughout his shorter life (dead parents, dead surrogate brother, dead best friend, crippled childhood friend/girlfriend) than Jefferson has, which may make him more vulnerable to the X-Pit's psychological torture, so that could be a factor; others have postulated that it may be the result of Dick's willingness to deceive and manipulate others that made him more vulnerable. A simpler explanation (though arguably not as persuasive) would be that Jefferson is a [[ShockAndAwe meta-human]], and Dick [[BadassNormal isn't]], and that somehow differs the effect, though why that would be the case isn't clear, as Jefferson's powers don't involve greater endurance and Dick is also in peak physical condition. The heroes themselves don't say or even speculate, presumably because none of them know the slightest thing about the X-Pit. Chances are only [[UnreliableExpositor Gretchen]] could give a concrete answer.

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** It's not made clear in this or the previous episode why the X-Pit had a ''far'' more extreme and lasting effect on Dick than it did Jefferson. Jefferson seems to have fully recovered by the start of this episode while Dick needs Alfred to all-but carry him to get out of bed near the very end, despite both being exposed to the effects of the X-Pit for an identical length of time. It seems the torture inflicted on victims of the pit is both physical and psychological, and Dick has likely experienced more trauma throughout his shorter life (dead parents, dead surrogate brother, dead best friend, crippled childhood friend/girlfriend) than Jefferson has, which may make him more vulnerable to the X-Pit's psychological torture, so that could be a factor; others have postulated that it may be the result of Dick's willingness to deceive and manipulate others that made him more vulnerable. A simpler explanation (though arguably not as persuasive) would be that Jefferson is a [[ShockAndAwe meta-human]], and Dick [[BadassNormal isn't]], and that somehow differs the effect, though why that would be the case isn't clear, as Jefferson's powers don't involve greater endurance and Dick is also in peak physical condition. The heroes themselves don't say or even speculate, presumably because none of them know the slightest thing about the X-Pit. Chances are only [[UnreliableExpositor Gretchen]] could give a concrete answer. [[spoiler: Turns out it ''was'' because Jefferson is a metahuman and Dick isn't. Non-metahumans are simply less resistant to the X-Pit, according to Granny.]]

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* AndIMustScream: Though Tara and Brion are under the effects of control disks and can't act without Jace's orders, their reactions to her confession show enough awareness to become visibly angry at her crimes against them. Jace herself becomes slaved to Gretchen Goode and truthfully admits she hates her, but is now incapable of defying her commands.

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* AndIMustScream: Though Tara and Brion are under the effects of control disks and can't act without Jace's orders, their reactions to her confession show enough awareness to become visibly angry at her crimes against them. Tara is faking being controlled, but Brion's reactions still qualify. Jace herself becomes slaved to Gretchen Goode and truthfully admits she hates her, but is now incapable of defying her commands.



* TheVoiceless: Very apparent in this episode. Between Violet, Jace, Brion, Tara, Jefferson and Kaldur, Dick, Bruce, Gretchen, Barbara, Garfield, and Deathstroke[[note]] Ultra-Humanite is voiced by Weisman, who ''probably'' doesn't get paid for voice acting[[/note]], the voice acting budget must have been stretched to the limit already. Any character they didn't need to speak, didn't speak. Hence, despite appearing and having roles in the episode that would normally require that they have spoken dialogue, Savage, M'gann, Conner, and Tim don't speak one word between the four of them in the whole episode. In the case of Savage, at least, this actually [[TropesAreTools works pretty well]]. Also, applies to Victor and Forager, but more justified in their case, they have no role in the confrontations and just [[PassThePopcorn watch the fireworks]].


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* VillainExitStageLeft: When Tara breaks herself and Brion free of the control disks, Ultra-Humanite boom tubes back to the Light with Jace while Gretchen boom tubes to Granny Goodness with Halo.


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* TheVoiceless: Very apparent in this episode. Between Violet, Jace, Brion, Tara, Jefferson and Kaldur, Dick, Bruce, Gretchen, Barbara, Garfield, and Deathstroke[[note]] Ultra-Humanite is voiced by Weisman, who ''probably'' doesn't get paid for voice acting[[/note]], the voice acting budget must have been stretched to the limit already. Any character they didn't need to speak, didn't speak. Hence, despite appearing and having roles in the episode that would normally require that they have spoken dialogue, Savage, M'gann, Conner, and Tim don't speak one word between the four of them in the whole episode. M'gann and Conner get around this by holding a private conversation through telepathy, even though they're arguing in the open. In the case of Savage, this [[TropesAreTools works pretty well]] to demonstrate just how shocked he is. Victor and Forager, meanwhile, aren't really invested in the conflict and thus just [[PassThePopcorn watch the fireworks]].

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