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The Renegade kills Klarion and hands himself in, then is visited in jail by an alternate version of Batman, who brings him to universe 50 to fight off a Thanagarian plot to destroy the Earth.

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* PyrrhicVictory: This is the best the Thanagarians can hope to achieve.

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* PlayAlongPrisoner: The Renegade deliberately hands himself in and gives up his weapons to Wonder Woman after killing Klarion, so that he can make a point about the legal situation surrounding PersonOfMassDestruction villains. He still retains Father Box, who could portal him out at any time, and he is more than strong enough to smash his way out, but has no desire to.
* PyrrhicVictory: This is the best the Thanagarians can hope to achieve. Even if they blew up the Earth and attacked the gordanian homeworld, that wouldn't save their empire.
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The title is presumably a reference to crossing between parallel universes. The next episode is a continuation of this story arc.

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The title is presumably a reference to crossing between parallel universes.universes, and also to the DCAU episode "Starcrossed". The next episode is a continuation of this story arc.

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* InstantExpert: Subverted. Guy Gardner 50 can use the yellow power ring he has, but he isn't an expert, which is how the Renegade was able to take it from him.



* RealityEnsues: The Guy Gardner of Earth 50 realizes nothing they have is stopping the Renegade. So he decides to get the power ring in the safe to fight him. He gets a few hits in but is swiftly defeated because it's his first time ever wielding a yellow power ring, with [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20114046 no idea of what exactly it can do]].

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* RealityEnsues: The Guy Gardner of Earth 50 realizes nothing they have is stopping the Renegade. So Renegade, so he decides to get the power ring in the safe to fight him. He gets a few hits in but is swiftly defeated because it's his first time ever wielding a yellow power ring, with [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20114046 no idea of what exactly it can do]].
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Having obtained the Sword of Second and Third, Grayven sets a trap for Klarion, aiming to remove a serious threat from the world and join the Light as a member or a mole. Since he also wants to make a political/moral point about the limitations of current laws and Justice League rules of engagement with high-end supervillains, he also arranges for press coverage. His bait, looking like a Lord of Order ascension ritual, is successful; Klarion appears, and Grayven uses a burst of SuperSpeed to behead him. He then hands himself in to the police.

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Having obtained the Sword of Second and Third, Grayven the Renegade sets a trap for Klarion, aiming to remove a serious threat from the world and join the Light as a member or a mole. Since he also wants to make a political/moral point about the limitations of current laws and Justice League rules of engagement with high-end supervillains, he also arranges for press coverage. His bait, looking like a Lord of Order ascension ritual, is successful; Klarion appears, and Grayven the Renegade uses a burst of SuperSpeed to behead him. He then hands himself in to the police.



Grayven is then visited in jail by an alternate universe Batman, who orders him to come and opens a portal to Earth 50. Batman explains that the Thanagarians have come to Earth, pretending to build a shield to protect the planet from their war with the Gordanians, but they are actually building a device that will destroy Earth to build a warp tunnel for their forces to reach the Gordanian capital. The Justice Lords were [[DePower depowered]] some time ago and drifted apart, so he chose Grayven for his combination of power, morality, and ruthlessness. However, Grayven is now largely unarmed. Batman informs him of the location of Sinestro's yellow ring, in a government facility, as Sinestro has been killed in this parallel.

With the help of Father Box's boom tubes, Grayven breaks into the facility and takes the ring from novice Yellow Lantern Guy Gardner; the ring recognises him as a "superior potential bearer." Now armed, Grayven looks at re-establishing an organisation like the Justice League. He is able to re-empower Hawkgirl and Lantern Stewart (gaining access to the yellow ring's personal lantern in the process), but is dissatisfied with the attitudes of Superman and Wonder Woman, while the Flash is dead. However, he then discovers that the president has been replaced with an Apokoliptian infiltrator robot, and in exasperation, he goes full Renegade, attacking the Thanagarian flagship single-handedly. He is seriously injured during the fight, but ultimately succeeds in defeating their commander and forcing them to retreat.

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Grayven The Renegade is then visited in jail by an alternate universe Batman, who orders him to come and opens a portal to Earth 50. Batman explains that the Thanagarians have come to Earth, pretending to build a shield to protect the planet from their war with the Gordanians, but they are actually building a device that will destroy Earth to build a warp tunnel for their forces to reach the Gordanian capital. The Justice Lords were [[DePower depowered]] some time ago and drifted apart, so he chose Grayven the Renegade for his combination of power, morality, and ruthlessness. However, Grayven the Renegade is now largely unarmed. Batman informs him of the location of Sinestro's yellow ring, in a government facility, as Sinestro has been killed in this parallel.

With the help of Father Box's boom tubes, Grayven the Renegade breaks into the facility and takes the ring from novice Yellow Lantern Guy Gardner; the ring recognises him as a "superior potential bearer." Now armed, Grayven the Renegade looks at re-establishing an organisation like the Justice League. He is able to re-empower Hawkgirl and Lantern Stewart (gaining access to the yellow ring's personal lantern in the process), but is dissatisfied with the attitudes of Superman and Wonder Woman, while the Flash is dead. However, he then discovers that the president has been replaced with an Apokoliptian infiltrator robot, and in exasperation, he goes full Renegade, attacking the Thanagarian flagship single-handedly. He is seriously injured during the fight, but ultimately succeeds in defeating their commander and forcing them to retreat.



* AlternateUniverse: Grayven visits universe 50, home of the Justice Lords.
* AntiClimax: The entire "fight" against Klarion is over in seconds. Justified because Grayven has extensively planned how to kill the Lord of Chaos and killed him in a staged ambush.

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* AlternateUniverse: Grayven The Renegade visits universe 50, home of the Justice Lords.
* AntiClimax: The entire "fight" against Klarion is over in seconds. Justified because Grayven the Renegade has extensively planned how to kill the Lord of Chaos and killed him in a staged ambush.



* DePower: Grayven does this to Lord!Superman permanently after his ring confirms the original depowering is only temporary.
* DisappointedInYou: Wonder Woman feels this way towards Grayven.
* EngineeredPublicConfession: Grayven gets Hro Talak to admit the Thanagarians are trying to destroy the Earth. He sends a recording of the confession to the Justice Lords, who release the clip.
* ExactWords: Grayven had actually asked his ring for whatever information it could give him about radon, but it turns out that the weapons that can badly harm New Gods are rad'''i'''on based.
* TheGlovesComeOff: When Grayven realizes the president is actually a robot being controlled by SHADE, he decides that helping the heroes of Earth 50 is a waste of time and goes off to fight the Thanagarians on his own.
* IKnowWhatYouFear: Guy Gardner is able to use a yellow ring to see Grayven's fears. However, it doesn't help him much, because Grayven just doesn't find ''him'' very scary, and takes the ring away from him.
* ImmunityDisability: Grayven's divinely empowered body is bulletproof, immune to poisons, resistant to spells, and can [[{{Regeneration}} regenerate]] - but when he actually does get seriously injured, his ring can't just reset him to full health like Paragon can, and he can't use painkillers. Furthermore, the Garrick formula, which grants SuperSpeed, only works on him for a few seconds before his body resets itself.
* {{Kayfabe}}: This is the other reason Grayven has for immediately attacking the Thanagarians.
* LeeroyJenkins: Grayen goes off to fight the Thanagarians with no plan whatsoever.
* MotivationalLie: This is the [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20251725 reason Grayven mentioned the Massacre of Sector 666]], even though he isn't sure it happened in Universe 50.
* MythologyGag: When visiting the Scott and Barda Free of Earth 50, Grayven reenacts the memorable scene where Darkseid greets Scott Free in the latter's own living room while reading a newspaper.
* NoNudityTaboo: This applies on Apokolips, as Grayven points out to Hawkgirl after he performs lifesaving surgery on her. She still wants him to leave before she gets changed.
* NoodleIncident: The Thanagarians actually [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-5085806 tried to assassinate Grayven]] in the past.
* NormalFishInATinyPond: Grayven is usually this when on Earth, which means that even if he messes up, he can just power through with no problem. This is not the case [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-5049307 against the Thanagarians]].

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* DePower: Grayven The Renegade does this to Lord!Superman permanently after his ring confirms the original depowering is only temporary.
* DisappointedInYou: Wonder Woman feels this way towards Grayven.
the Renegade.
* EngineeredPublicConfession: Grayven The Renegade gets Hro Talak to admit the Thanagarians are trying to destroy the Earth. He sends a recording of the confession to the Justice Lords, who release the clip.
* ExactWords: Grayven The Renegade had actually asked his ring for whatever information it could give him about radon, but it turns out that the weapons that can badly harm New Gods are rad'''i'''on based.
* TheGlovesComeOff: When Grayven the Renegade realizes the president is actually a robot being controlled by SHADE, he decides that helping the heroes of Earth 50 is a waste of time and goes off to fight the Thanagarians on his own.
* IKnowWhatYouFear: Guy Gardner is able to use a yellow ring to see Grayven's the Renegade's fears. However, it doesn't help him much, because Grayven the Renegade just doesn't find ''him'' very scary, and takes the ring away from him.
* ImmunityDisability: Grayven's The Renegade's divinely empowered body is bulletproof, immune to poisons, resistant to spells, and can [[{{Regeneration}} regenerate]] - but when he actually does get seriously injured, his ring can't just reset him to full health like Paragon can, and he can't use painkillers. Furthermore, the Garrick formula, which grants SuperSpeed, only works on him for a few seconds before his body resets itself.
* {{Kayfabe}}: This is the other reason Grayven the Renegade has for immediately attacking the Thanagarians.
* LeeroyJenkins: Grayen The Renegade goes off to fight the Thanagarians with no plan whatsoever.
* MotivationalLie: This is the [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20251725 reason Grayven the Renegade mentioned the Massacre of Sector 666]], even though he isn't sure it happened in Universe 50.
* MythologyGag: When visiting the Scott and Barda Free of Earth 50, Grayven the Renegade reenacts the memorable scene where Darkseid greets Scott Free in the latter's own living room while reading a newspaper.
* NoNudityTaboo: This applies on Apokolips, as Grayven the Renegade points out to Hawkgirl after he performs lifesaving surgery on her. She still wants him to leave before she gets changed.
* NoodleIncident: The Thanagarians actually [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-5085806 tried to assassinate Grayven]] the Renegade]] in the past.
* NormalFishInATinyPond: Grayven The Renegade is usually this when on Earth, which means that even if he messes up, he can just power through with no problem. This is not the case [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-5049307 against the Thanagarians]].



* PantyShot: Hawkgirl accidentally flashes Grayven.

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* PantyShot: Hawkgirl accidentally flashes Grayven.the Renegade.



* RealityEnsues: The Guy Gardner of Earth 50 realizes nothing they have is stopping Grayven. So he decides to get the power ring in the safe to fight him. He gets a few hits in but is swiftly defeated because it's his first time ever wielding a yellow power ring, with [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20114046 no idea of what exactly it can do]].
* SelfSurgery: Grayven has to cut out the piece of him that is affected by radion.

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* RealityEnsues: The Guy Gardner of Earth 50 realizes nothing they have is stopping Grayven.the Renegade. So he decides to get the power ring in the safe to fight him. He gets a few hits in but is swiftly defeated because it's his first time ever wielding a yellow power ring, with [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20114046 no idea of what exactly it can do]].
* SelfSurgery: Grayven The Renegade has to cut out the piece of him that is affected by radion.



* SmiteMeOMightySmiter: Grayven taunts Ares, daring the god to appear and strike him down for desecrating the god's temple.
* SuperEmpowering: Grayven grants John Stewart the ability to directly channel the Green Light of Will.

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* SmiteMeOMightySmiter: Grayven The Renegade taunts Ares, daring the god to appear and strike him down for desecrating the god's temple.
* SuperEmpowering: Grayven The Renegade grants John Stewart the ability to directly channel the Green Light of Will.



** More info on the [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20038106 results]] of Grayven's anti-Vertigo ads is given.

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** More info on the [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20038106 results]] of Grayven's the Renegade's anti-Vertigo ads is given.



** When Mr Zoat originally wrote this episode, Grayven [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20142821 didn't have Sinestro's ring]].

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** When Mr Zoat originally wrote this episode, Grayven the Renegade [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20142821 didn't have Sinestro's ring]].



** This episode shows Grayven how to [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20208376 improperly execute his plans]].
** Grayven thought Diana was redeemable because [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20220893 she realized she was wrong]], unlike Kal-El.
** Grayven's [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20229292 reasoning for not restoring J'onn's powers]] is given.
** If Grayven won, he would have made a [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20263469 feudal government]].

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** This episode shows Grayven the Renegade how to [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20208376 improperly execute his plans]].
** Grayven The Renegade thought Diana was redeemable because [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20220893 she realized she was wrong]], unlike Kal-El.
** Grayven's The Renegade's [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20229292 reasoning for not restoring J'onn's powers]] is given.
** If Grayven the Renegade won, he would have made a [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20263469 feudal government]].
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* NoodleIncident: The Thanagarians actually [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-5085806 tried to assassinate Grayven]] in the past.
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** Mr Zoat elaborates what Paul would have done if he showed up [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-5081531 around WW II]].
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* ShoutOut: One of Sinestro Ring's lines is taken from Literature/{{Discworld}}.
--> Endeavour to be the master.
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** The ComicBook/LightsOut story [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-5072130 isn't canon]] to this fic.
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* EngineeredPublicConfession: Grayven gets Hro Talak to admit the Thanagarians are trying to destroy the Earth. He sends a recording of the confession to the Justice Lords, who release the clip.


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* LeeroyJenkins: Grayen goes off to fight the Thanagarians with no plan whatsoever.
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** Mr Zoat clarifies which Lantern Corps are [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-5059527 currently active]] in the Paragon and Renegade timeline.
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** If the Linear Men became a problem, Paul would [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-5054558 assimilate them]].

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* PyrrhicVictory: This is the best the Thanagarians 50 can hope to achieve.
* RealityEnsues: The Guy Gardner of Earth 50 realizes nothing they have is stopping Grayven. So he decides to get the power ring in the safe to fight him. He gets a few hits in but is swiftly defeated because it's his first time ever wielding a yellow power ring, with no idea of what exactly it can do, as [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20114046 stated]] via WordOfGod.

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* PyrrhicVictory: This is the best the Thanagarians 50 can hope to achieve.
* RealityEnsues: The Guy Gardner of Earth 50 realizes nothing they have is stopping Grayven. So he decides to get the power ring in the safe to fight him. He gets a few hits in but is swiftly defeated because it's his first time ever wielding a yellow power ring, with no idea of what exactly it can do, as [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20114046 stated]] via WordOfGod.no idea of what exactly it can do]].
* SelfSurgery: Grayven has to cut out the piece of him that is affected by radion.
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* NormalFishInATinyPond: Grayven is usually this when on Earth, which means that even if he messes up, he can just power through with no problem. This is not the case [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-twelve.25032/post-5049307 against the Thanagarians]].

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Wonder Woman visits him in jail, disappointed in his behavior, and takes most of his equipment, including the Sword and his ring (which the police were unqualified to handle). However, she leaves Father Box with him, as it is sentient. Grayven is then visited by an alternate universe Batman, who orders him to come and opens a portal to Earth 50.

Batman explains that the Thanagarians have come to Earth, pretending to build a shield to protect the planet from their war with the Gordanians, but they are actually building a device that will destroy Earth to build a warp tunnel for their forces to reach the Gordanian capital. The Justice Lords were [[DePower depowered]] some time ago and drifted apart, so he chose Grayven for his combination of power, morality, and ruthlessness. However, Grayven is now largely unarmed. Batman informs him of the location of Sinestro's yellow ring, in a government facility, as Sinestro has been killed in this parallel. With the help of Father Box's boom tubes, Grayven breaks into the facility and takes the ring from novice Yellow Lantern Guy Gardner; the ring recognises him as a "superior potential bearer."

Now armed, Grayven looks at re-establishing an organisation like the Justice League. He is able to re-empower Hawkgirl and Lantern Stewart (gaining access to the yellow ring's personal lantern in the process), but is dissatisfied with the attitudes of Superman and Wonder Woman, while the Flash is dead. However, he then discovers that the president has been replaced with an Apokoliptian infiltrator robot, and in exasperation, he goes full Renegade, attacking the Thanagarian flagship single-handedly. He is seriously injured during the fight, but ultimately succeeds in defeating their commander and forcing them to retreat.

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Wonder Woman visits him in jail, disappointed in his behavior, and takes most of his equipment, including the Sword and his ring (which the police were unqualified to handle). However, she leaves Father Box with him, as it is sentient. sentient.

Grayven is then visited in jail by an alternate universe Batman, who orders him to come and opens a portal to Earth 50.

50. Batman explains that the Thanagarians have come to Earth, pretending to build a shield to protect the planet from their war with the Gordanians, but they are actually building a device that will destroy Earth to build a warp tunnel for their forces to reach the Gordanian capital. The Justice Lords were [[DePower depowered]] some time ago and drifted apart, so he chose Grayven for his combination of power, morality, and ruthlessness. However, Grayven is now largely unarmed. Batman informs him of the location of Sinestro's yellow ring, in a government facility, as Sinestro has been killed in this parallel. parallel.

With the help of Father Box's boom tubes, Grayven breaks into the facility and takes the ring from novice Yellow Lantern Guy Gardner; the ring recognises him as a "superior potential bearer."

" Now armed, Grayven looks at re-establishing an organisation like the Justice League. He is able to re-empower Hawkgirl and Lantern Stewart (gaining access to the yellow ring's personal lantern in the process), but is dissatisfied with the attitudes of Superman and Wonder Woman, while the Flash is dead. However, he then discovers that the president has been replaced with an Apokoliptian infiltrator robot, and in exasperation, he goes full Renegade, attacking the Thanagarian flagship single-handedly. He is seriously injured during the fight, but ultimately succeeds in defeating their commander and forcing them to retreat.



* DePower: Grayven does this to Lord!Superman [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20206953 permanently]] after his ring confirms the original depowering is only temporary.

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* DePower: Grayven does this to Lord!Superman [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20206953 permanently]] permanently after his ring confirms the original depowering is only temporary.



* TheGlovesComeOff: When Grayven realizes the president is actually a robot being controlled by SHADE, he decides that helping the heroes of the Earth 50 is a waste of time and goes off to fight the Thanagarians on his own.

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* TheGlovesComeOff: When Grayven realizes the president is actually a robot being controlled by SHADE, he decides that helping the heroes of the Earth 50 is a waste of time and goes off to fight the Thanagarians on his own.



* {{Kayfabe}}: This is the [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20260055 other reason]] Grayven has for immediately attacking the Thanagarians.

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* {{Kayfabe}}: This is the [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20260055 other reason]] reason Grayven has for immediately attacking the Thanagarians.



* PantyShot: Hawkgirl [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20181602 accidentally flashes]] Grayven.
* PyrrhicVictory: This is the [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20078745 best the Thanagarians 50 can hope to achieve]].
* RealityEnsues: The Guy Gardner of Earth 50 realizes nothing they have is stopping Grayven. So he decides to get the power ring in the safe to fight him. He gets a few hits in but is swiftly defeated because it's his first time ever wielding a power ring, with no idea of what exactly it can do, as [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20114046 stated]] via WordOfGod.
* SmiteMeOMightySmiter: Grayven taunts Ares, daring the god appear and strike him down for desecrating the god's temple.

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* PantyShot: Hawkgirl [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20181602 accidentally flashes]] flashes Grayven.
* PyrrhicVictory: This is the [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20078745 best the Thanagarians 50 can hope to achieve]].
achieve.
* RealityEnsues: The Guy Gardner of Earth 50 realizes nothing they have is stopping Grayven. So he decides to get the power ring in the safe to fight him. He gets a few hits in but is swiftly defeated because it's his first time ever wielding a yellow power ring, with no idea of what exactly it can do, as [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20114046 stated]] via WordOfGod.
* SmiteMeOMightySmiter: Grayven taunts Ares, daring the god to appear and strike him down for desecrating the god's temple.



*** It is implied that Paul will know what the scarab in Ted's possession is [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-19997605 and will confiscate it]]. Right now, he has [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20062608 no idea]] Ted even has it.

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*** ** It is implied that Paul will know what the scarab in Ted's possession is [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-19997605 and will confiscate it]]. Right now, he has [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20062608 no idea]] Ted even has it.



** What Grayven broadcasted was something that [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20088284 looks like]] a Lord of Order ascension ritual.



** A key difference between Guy 16 and Guy 50 [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20115922 is explained]].
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** China's superhero policy [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20272311 is explained]].
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* {{Kayfabe}}: This is the [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20260055 other reason]] Grayven has for immediately attacking the Thanagarians.


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* MotivationalLie: This is the [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20251725 reason Grayven mentioned the Massacre of Sector 666]], even though he isn't sure it happened in Universe 50.
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* SuperEmpowering: Grayven grants John Stewart the ability to directly channel the Green Light of Will.
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** Grayven's [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20229292 reasoning for not restoring J'onn's powers]] is given.
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* MythologyGag: When visiting the Scott and Barda Free of Earth 50, Grayven reenacts the memorable scene where Darkseid greets Scott Free in the latter's own living room while reading a newspaper.
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** Grayven thought Diana was redeemable because [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20220893 she realized she was wrong]], unlike Kal-El.
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* SmiteMeOMightySmiter: Grayven taunts Ares, daring the god appear and strike him down for desecrating the god's temple.
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** This episode shows Grayven how to [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20208376 improperly execute his plans]].
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* DePower: Grayven does this to Lord!Superman [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20206953 permanently]] after his ring confirms the original depowering is only temporary.
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** Why the League is fine with calling Renegade!OL Grayven [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20198681 is explained]].
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* PantyShot: Hawkgirl [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20181602 accidentally flashes]] Grayven.
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** Static 50 isn't active [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20179704 thanks to SHADE]].
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** Mr Zoat [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/with-this-ring-young-justice-si-thread-eleven.311139/post-20154167 confirms]] a reader's guess about what happened to Hawkgirl.

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