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Not really what happened; the time periods were mashed together accidentally so sending him away fixed it


* BittersweetEnding: Peggy successfully saves the world of 1602, but has to sacrifice Steve to do it, and she ends up alone, though Strange Supreme's arrival seems to spark a bit of hope on her part.

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* BittersweetEnding: Peggy successfully saves the world of 1602, but has to sacrifice send Steve away to do it, and she ends up alone, though Strange Supreme's arrival seems to spark a bit of hope on her part.
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* ExpendableAlternateUniverse: Uatu tells Carter that the 1602-Avengers world is this and that she should therefore not try to save it. Once she learns Steve is the forerunner and that he accidentally created this world, she relents and lets it vanish.

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* ExpendableAlternateUniverse: Uatu tells Carter that the 1602-Avengers world is this and that she should therefore not try to save it. Once she learns Steve is the forerunner and that he accidentally created this world, she relents and lets it vanish.
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* AdaptationalHeroism: Neither Hela nor Loki appear to be villainous. In addition, the comicbook 1602 versions of Iron Man and Hulk were largely antagonistic, which is not the case here.

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* AdaptationalHeroism: Neither Hela nor Loki appear to be villainous. In addition, the comicbook comic book 1602 versions of Iron Man and Hulk were largely antagonistic, which is not the case here.
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* DoppelgangerGetsSameSentiment: Captain Carter and Rogers Hood immediately become captivated by the other because of their previous relationships with their {{Alternate Sel|f}}ves.


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* ExpendableAlternateUniverse: Uatu tells Carter that the 1602-Avengers world is this and that she should therefore not try to save it. Once she learns Steve is the forerunner and that he accidentally created this world, she relents and lets it vanish.


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* GoodGuyBar: Rogers Hood's Merry Men gather in a saloon in the Sherwood Forest after robbing Prince Loki's coach.


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* JustLikeRobinHood: Steve takes on the role of Robin Hood in this world, with Bucky and Scott among his Merry Men.


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* StarCrossedLovers: Peggy has yet to find a world where she and Steve get to be together.


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* TitleDrop: When trying to convince Carter that this world cannot be saved, he proposes a series of questions that start with, "What if..." Carter responds in frustration, "What if? What if? What if?!"
* VariationsOnAThemeSong: The opening Marvel theme is played as an Elizabethan minstrel tune.


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* YouCantFightFate: Uatu tells Carter that [[ExpendableAlternateUniverse this world is destined to die]], and that there is nothing she can do to stop that. She at first resists this idea, but after learning that Steve accidentally created this world, she accepts that she cannot save it.

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** [[Creator/CateBlanchett Hela]] takes the place of Elizabeth I in the 1602-verse.

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** [[Creator/CateBlanchett Hela]] takes the place of Elizabeth I in the 1602-verse. Her actress has already played her before.


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* BrickJoke: Just before his carriage is robbed by Rogers and his band, Loki's boring two ladies by going on about how ''cool'' Iago is. At Thor's court, a few days later, he's still talking about Iago, and they're still bored.


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* CompanionCube: Loki's gotten really attached to his Yorick skull, and is distressed when Peggy takes it for herself.


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* HeliumSpeech: The Yellowjackets speak like this when shrunk.


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* LighterAndSofter: Despite being (loosely) based on ''1602'', the tone is still very light-hearted.


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* OpenMouthInsertFoot: When she hears her alternate counterpart is dead, Peggy immediately says "good", before having to backpedal.
* PlotArchaeology: Way back in ''Doctor Strange'', the mystics of Kamar-Taj admonished Stephen for messing around with the Time Stone on the grounds of many horrific things that could happen. This episode finally demonstrates that they were right to be horrified.


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* ProducePelting: Thor is introduced planning to do as such to Loki's performance of ''Hamlet'', gleefully noting he's made sure the cabbages are extra rotten for that added effect.


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* RootingForTheEmpire: In-universe. Loki's become a major Iago fanboy, and considers him the ''true'' main character of ''Othello''.

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** [[Creator/CateBlanchett Hel]] takes the place of Elizabeth I in the 1602-verse.
* AdaptedOut: In addition to characters who haven't been established to exist in the MCU, like the Fantastick Four and most of the Witchbreed (mutants), the ''Comicbook/Marvel1602'' counterparts of Spider-Man, Daredevil, Black Widow, Quicksilver and Dr Strange are all absent. More notably, so are Queen Elizabeth and her successor King James, replaced by Hel and Thor.

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** [[Creator/CateBlanchett Hel]] Hela]] takes the place of Elizabeth I in the 1602-verse.
* AdaptedOut: In addition to characters who haven't been established to exist in the MCU, like the Fantastick Four and most of the Witchbreed (mutants), the ''Comicbook/Marvel1602'' counterparts of Spider-Man, Daredevil, Black Widow, Quicksilver and Dr Strange are all absent. More notably, so are Queen Elizabeth and her successor King James, replaced by Hel Hela and Thor.



* AdaptationalHeroism: Neither Hel nor Loki appear to be villainous. In addition, the comicbook 1602 versions of Iron Man and Hulk were largely antagonistic, which is not the case here.

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* AdaptationalHeroism: Neither Hel Hela nor Loki appear to be villainous. In addition, the comicbook 1602 versions of Iron Man and Hulk were largely antagonistic, which is not the case here.



* AdaptationalWimp: This version of Loki is an actor rather than a fighter, totally helpless when Rogers Hood and his band rob his carriage and staying out of the melee completely.



* BittersweetEnding: Peggy successfully saves the world of 1602, but has to sacrifice Steve to do it, and she ends up alone, though Strange Supreme's arrival seems to spark a bit of hope on her part.



* TheExecutioner: The royal executioner is, unsurprisingly, the Red Skull. [[AllohistoricalAllusion Steve knocks him out during the climactic melee]].
* TheFatalist: Uatu, who has seen countless universes die, insists that the world is doomed and offers to take Peggy home so she won't die with it.
* {{Foreshadowing}}:
** The Watcher's reference to seeing universes die portends the arrival of Strange Supreme, the sole survivor of [[Recap/WhatIfS1E4WhatIfDoctorStrangeLostHisHeartInsteadOfHisHands one such universe]].
** The royal scepter, despite resembling Loki's Chitauri weapon, has a green stone instead of a blue one, implying that it's the Time Stone.
** Despite everyone seeming to live in 17th century Britain, [[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent no one (other than Thor and Loki, who already had them) has a British accent]], hinting that none of them are native to the era or location.



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portals, he allows himself to be sent back to his own time.]]

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* HeroWithBadPublicity: After Peggy fails to save Hela, a grieving Thor irrationally blames her for the time rifts, forcing Peggy to become an outlaw.
* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portals, he allows himself to be sent back to his own time.]]



* InteractiveNarrator: Once again, someone notices Uatu monologing and starts talking to him. This time, it's Peggy.

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* InsultBackfire: When Peggy says that Thor is even more of a DramaQueen than Loki, [[ImStandingRightHere Loki]] is visibly flattered.
* InteractiveNarrator: Once again, someone notices Uatu monologing monologuing and starts talking to him. This time, it's Peggy.



* OhCrap: Steve when Hogan transforms into The Freak.

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* OhCrap: OhCrap:
** The guards when they trigger Banner to become the Hulk.
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Steve when Hogan transforms into The Freak.Freak.
* PointOfDivergence: [[TimeCrash The situation]] was caused when Steve accidentally struck the Time Stone [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar while fighting Thanos in Wakanda]].



* SchizoTech: The 1602 heroes have no access to things like computers or arc reactors, but Pym particles, Bucky's vibranium arm, and gamma-irradiated monsters like the Hulk and the Freak, are treated as perfectly normal.



* WhamShot: When Carter uses the device made by 1602 Stark to reveal the identity of the forerunner, [[spoiler: it shows 1602 Steve glowing green]].

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* SitcomArchnemesis: Thanks to their [[TheStoic extremely]] [[FunPersonified different]] personalities, Bucky finds Scott Lang incredibly annoying, though Scott seems totally oblivious as to why.
* TimeCrash: Peggy quickly realizes that 1602 and the modern age are being stuck together due to some unknown issue, ultimately revealed to be a misfire of the Time Stone caused while Captain America fought Thanos. All of the modern heroes are actually native to 2018, and they all disappear once the issue is resolved.
* WhamShot: When Carter uses the device made by 1602 Stark to reveal the identity of the forerunner, [[spoiler: it shows 1602 Steve glowing green]].green.
* YeOldeButcheredEnglish: Used surprisingly sparingly, given the setting, but primarily by ''the Hulk'', of all people.
-->'''Hulk:''' HULK SMASH THEE!
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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portals, he allows himself to be erased]]

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portals, he allows himself to be erased]]sent back to his own time.]]



* WhamShot: When Carter uses the device made by 1602 Stark to reveal the identity of the forerunner, [[spoiler: it shows 1602 Steve glowing green]]

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* WhamShot: When Carter uses the device made by 1602 Stark to reveal the identity of the forerunner, [[spoiler: it shows 1602 Steve glowing green]]green]].
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* YouCanSeeMe: Utau's reaction when Peggy asks him to stop narrating.

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* YouCanSeeMe: Utau's Uatu's reaction when Peggy asks him to stop narrating.
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* ActorAllusion:
** Loki being portrayed as a Shakespearean actor harks back to him being played by [[Creator/TomHiddleston an actual Shakespearean actor]].
** [[Creator/CateBlanchett Hel]] takes the place of Elizabeth I in the 1602-verse.


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* DeadAlternateCounterpart: Peggy’s 1602 counterpart Maid Margaret is deceased.


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* NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent: Jon Favreau is the only one trying for a British accent among the American cast.
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* SequelHook: Strange Supreme approaches Peggy while the latter has a drink, stating he has a story to tell her.
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->''"There was a superstition back during my days in the war that victory was its own sort of curse. Because every battle you won, every inch you gained would mean you're only getting further from home."''

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->''"There ->'''Captain Carter:''' ''There was a superstition back during my days in the war that victory was its own sort of curse. Because every battle you won, every inch you gained would mean you're only getting further from home."''''
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Picking up where the fifth episode of Season 2 left off, Captain Peggy Carter is summoned to a universe in 1602 to help save their world. When the king faces a devastating loss, Peggy is forced to go on the run, meeting familiar faces along the way. One of those faces which resembles Tony Stark reveals a way the world can be saved, but King Thor and his armies are not going to make her mission easy.

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->''"What you're seeing has all the makings of a Shakespearean tragedy: a king marred by loss, a soldier on the run, a world on the brink of oblivion. The year is 1602. She is Captain Peggy Carter. But how is a time-displaced super-soldier end up in such a strangely familiar reality? The sad truth is that there are worlds among the Multiverse simply meant to die, but every once in a while, a glimmer of hope can emerge."''
-->-- '''Uatu'''



* YouCanSeeMe: Utau's reaction when Peggy asks him to stop narrating.

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* YouCanSeeMe: Utau's reaction when Peggy asks him to stop narrating.narrating.
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* HatDamage: Steve slices the feather in Happy Hogan's hat. This turns out to be his BerserkButton.
* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portals, he allows himself to be erased]]



* InteractiveNarrator: Once again, someone notices Uatu monologing and starts talking to him. This time, it's Peggy.



* ShoutOut: One of the {{technobabble}} terms Peggy throws at Tony (who loves hearing them even if he doesn't understand them) is "[[Franchise/BackToTheFuture flux capacitor]]".

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* ShoutOut: One of the {{technobabble}} terms Peggy throws at Tony (who loves hearing them even if he doesn't understand them) is "[[Franchise/BackToTheFuture flux capacitor]]".capacitor]]".
* WhamShot: When Carter uses the device made by 1602 Stark to reveal the identity of the forerunner, [[spoiler: it shows 1602 Steve glowing green]]
* YouCanSeeMe: Utau's reaction when Peggy asks him to stop narrating.
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Sir Nicholas realises Peggy is ''not'' responsible for the rifts that started ''before she even got here'', and gives her a chance to fix things.

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* AdaptationalHeroism: Neither Hel nor Loki appear to be villainous.

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* AdaptationalHeroism: Neither Hel nor Loki appear to be villainous. In addition, the comicbook 1602 versions of Iron Man and Hulk were largely antagonistic, which is not the case here.
* AdaptationalJerkass: Thor and Hogan are quick to blame Peggy for everything and act accordingly.



* CanonForeigner: The comics 1602 world has not been established to have a version of Scott Lang (although it does have a Henri Pym) or Happy Hogan.

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* CanonForeigner: The comics comics' 1602 world has not been established to have a version of Scott Lang (although it does have a Henri Pym) or Happy Hogan.



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portals, he allows himself to be erased]]
* HonorBeforeReason: Despite Uatu's pleas for her to let him send her back to her home universe, Peggy is determined to save the 1602 universe from the tears in its reality.
* InteractiveNarrator: Once again, someone notices Uatu monologing and starts talking to him. This time, it's Peggy.

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portals, he allows himself to be erased]]
* HonorBeforeReason: Despite Uatu's pleas for her to let him send her back to her home universe, Peggy is determined to save stop the 1602 universe from the tears in its reality.
* InteractiveNarrator: Once again, someone notices Uatu monologing and starts talking to him. This time, it's Peggy.
reality.



* WhamShot: When Carter uses the device made by 1602 Stark to reveal the identity of the forerunner, [[spoiler: it shows 1602 Steve glowing green]]

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* WhamShot: When Carter uses the device made by 1602 Stark to reveal the identity ShoutOut: One of the forerunner, [[spoiler: it shows 1602 Steve glowing green]]{{technobabble}} terms Peggy throws at Tony (who loves hearing them even if he doesn't understand them) is "[[Franchise/BackToTheFuture flux capacitor]]".
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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portal, he allows himself to be erased]]

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portal, portals, he allows himself to be erased]]
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* OhCrap: Steve when Hogan transforms into The Freak.

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* OhCrap: Steve when Hogan transforms into The Freak.Freak.
* WhamShot: When Carter uses the device made by 1602 Stark to reveal the identity of the forerunner, [[spoiler: it shows 1602 Steve glowing green]]
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* HeroicSacrifice: [spoilers: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portal, he allows himself to be erased]

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* HeroicSacrifice: [spoilers: [[spoiler: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portal, he allows himself to be erased]erased]]
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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoilers: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portal, he allows himself to be erased]]

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoilers: [spoilers: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portal, he allows himself to be erased]]erased]
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* HeroicSacrifice: [[Spoilers: When 1602 Steve realizes that he is the forerunner causing people to be swallowed up by the portal, he allows himself to be erased]]

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* HonorBeforeReason: Despite Uatu's pleas for her to let him send her back to her home universe, Peggy is determined to stop the 1602 universe from the tears in its reality.

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* HonorBeforeReason: Despite Uatu's pleas for her to let him send her back to her home universe, Peggy is determined to stop save the 1602 universe from the tears in its reality.
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* InteractiveNarrator: Once again, someone notices Uatu monologing and starts talking to him. This time, it's Peggy.
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* AdaptationalEarlyAppearance: In the comics, the Tony Stark counterpart doesn't appear until ''1602: The New World''. The Bucky Barnes counterpart doesn't appear until ''Comicbook/SecretWars1602: Witch-Hunter Angela''.

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* AdaptationalEarlyAppearance: In the comics, the Tony Stark counterpart doesn't appear until ''1602: The New World''. The Bucky Barnes counterpart doesn't appear until ''Comicbook/SecretWars1602: ''Comicbook/{{Secret Wars|2015}} 1602: Witch-Hunter Angela''.

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* AdaptedOut: In addition to characters who haven't been established to exist in the MCU, like the Fantastick Four and most of the Witchbreed (mutants), the ''Comicbook/Marvel1602'' counterparts of Spider-Man, Daredevil, Black Widow, Quicksilver and Dr Strange are all absent.
* AdaptationalEarlyAppearance: In the comics, the Tony Stark counterpart doesn't appear until ''1602: The New World''.

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* AdaptedOut: In addition to characters who haven't been established to exist in the MCU, like the Fantastick Four and most of the Witchbreed (mutants), the ''Comicbook/Marvel1602'' counterparts of Spider-Man, Daredevil, Black Widow, Quicksilver and Dr Strange are all absent.
absent. More notably, so are Queen Elizabeth and her successor King James, replaced by Hel and Thor.
* AdaptationalEarlyAppearance: In the comics, the Tony Stark counterpart doesn't appear until ''1602: The New World''. The Bucky Barnes counterpart doesn't appear until ''Comicbook/SecretWars1602: Witch-Hunter Angela''.


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* CanonForeigner: The comics 1602 world has not been established to have a version of Scott Lang (although it does have a Henri Pym) or Happy Hogan.
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* AdaptedOut: In addition to characters who haven't been established to exist in the MCU, like the Fantastick Four and most of the Witchbreed (mutants), the ''Comicbook/Marvel1602'' counterparts of Spider-Man, Daredevil, Black Widow, Quicksilver and Dr Strange are all absent.
* AdaptationalEarlyAppearance: In the comics, the Tony Stark counterpart doesn't appear until ''1602: The New World''.
* AdaptationalHeroism: Neither Hel nor Loki appear to be villainous.
* AdaptationalJobChange: Wanda is a court magician rather than a nun. Rogers is an outlaw rather than a bodyguard.
* AnachronismStew: Justified by two time periods collapsing into each other. In addition to most characters still talking in modern American accents (and Rogers' band of outlaws being more medieval than Early Modern) there's a reference to Victoria sponge, named after a queen who won't exist for two centuries.

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* CoolSword: The All-Father, a sword given to Thor by the King of Wakanda as a coronation gift. It can channel thunder and is made of vibranium.
* HonorBeforeReason: Despite Uatu's pleas for her to let him send her back to her home universe, Peggy is determined to stop the 1602 universe from the tears in its reality.
* OhCrap: Steve when Hogan transforms into The Freak.
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!!! '''Alternate take on:''' ''Film/AvengerInfinityWar''

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!!! '''Alternate take on:''' ''Film/AvengerInfinityWar''''Film/AvengersInfinityWar''
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