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** The episode looks like it's over after about 22 minutes, the length of a ''Lower Decks'' episode, with Boimler about to be sent back to the future. But it's a 45-minute ''Strange New Worlds'' episode, so of course ''something'' happens to stop that plan.
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** Or gushed about hot young Spock.

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* LegendaryInTheSequel: All of the ''Enterprise'' crew here are galactic legends in Starfleet by the time of the 2380s, with Pike's birthday becoming a holiday, Una being used for recruitment posters, Ortegas known as a war hero, and Spock being known as the most famous Vulcan of his time.

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All of the ''Enterprise'' crew here are galactic legends in Starfleet by the time of the 2380s, with Pike's birthday becoming a holiday, Una being used for recruitment posters, Ortegas known as a war hero, and Spock being known as the most famous Vulcan of his time. time.
** Pike admits he would be similarly starstruck if he got to see [[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Archer on the NX-01 Enterprise]]. Once the topic comes up Uhura and Ortegas get giddy talking about their counterparts on the NX-01 Hoshi Sato and Travis Mayweather, indicating that crew is just as much icons in the modern Starfleet.
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** [[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS05E06TrialsAndTribbleations This isn't the first time]] a character from the 24th century has rhapsodized about the elegance of 23rd-century tricorder design.
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* LegacyCharacter: Boimler geeks out over being on the bridge of the legendary ship, commenting on its' registry being "[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration 1701... no dash]]" and other crew wonder what he means by that. Earlier he had mentioned that this was the ORIGINAL Enterprise, but had to [[Series/StarTrekEnterprise correct himself on an earlier one]].

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* LegacyCharacter: Boimler geeks out over being on the bridge of the legendary ship, commenting on its' its registry being "[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration 1701... no dash]]" and other crew wonder what he means by that. Earlier he had mentioned that this was the ORIGINAL Enterprise, but had to [[Series/StarTrekEnterprise correct himself on an earlier one]].
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* {{Retgone}}: {{Averted}}. Boimler is trying to prevent Tendi from accidentally being erased from history.

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* {{Retgone}}: {{Averted}}.{{Defied}}. Boimler is trying to prevent Tendi from accidentally being erased from history.
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** Boimler namedrops [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries "the TOS era"]], {{backronym}}ing TOS to mean [[TitleDrop "Those Old Scientists"]].
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* GilliganCut: When Boimler offers to use his future knowledge to help track the Orions, he suggests that everyone else just not watch him doing it. Una scoffs at the idea...and cut to Pike and the other officers facing away from Boimler as he makes his modifications.
-->'''Una:''' Are we sure this is wise?\\
'''Pike:''' No, but I'm going with it.


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-->'''Boimler:''' ''(to Spock)'' Uh, can you please tell Captain Pike that the Orions want to trade? They see it as a sign of respect.\\
'''Pike:''' You know I can hear you. I'm standing ''right'' here.\\
'''Boimler:''' Sorry, I thought the span of the room would, uh...
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* DeconstructionCrossover: When ''Star Trek'' does {{Crossover}} episodes between series, things go pretty smoothly between the crews because they more-or-less operate the same. This time, when two Ensigns -- one a ProfessionalButtKisser and the other a MilitaryMaverick -- from the dysfunctional but well-revered ''Cerritos'' wind up on the ''Enterprise'' run by the more strait-laced yet laid back professionals under Captain Pike, it doesn't gel quite as smoothly. Boimler and Mariner are a bit disappointed that Pike and company aren't quite the people that history reveres them as in the 24th century, while the ''Enterprise'' crew has some difficulties dealing with the two time travelers' antics that they would normally be able to (mostly) get away with in their time.

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* DeconstructionCrossover: When ''Star Trek'' does {{Crossover}} episodes between live-action series, things go pretty smoothly between the crews because they more-or-less operate the same. same, with a shared action/drama focus. This time, when two Ensigns -- one a ProfessionalButtKisser and the other a MilitaryMaverick -- from the dysfunctional but well-revered ''Cerritos'' wind up on the ''Enterprise'' run by the more strait-laced yet laid back professionals under Captain Pike, it doesn't gel quite as smoothly.smoothly because their comedy-focused attitude is out of place in a more serious setting. Boimler and Mariner are a bit disappointed that Pike and company aren't quite the people that history reveres them as in the 24th century, while the ''Enterprise'' crew has some difficulties dealing with the two time travelers' antics that they would normally be able to (mostly) get away with in their time.
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* TitleDrop: Boimler mentions "Those Old Scientists" a few times. Mariner is annoyed that he got it from Ransom.

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* OhCrap: Boimler casually mentions that Pike's birthday is a Federation holiday in his time, and reacts with "CRAP! Crap, crap!" at realizing that he once again revealed something that he shouldn't have.

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* OhCrap: Boimler casually mentions that Pike's birthday is a [[FictionalHoliday Federation holiday holiday]] in his time, and reacts with "CRAP! Crap, crap!" at realizing that he once again revealed something that he shouldn't have.


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* SurpriseParty: After Boimler accidentally reveals that Pike's birthday is coming up, Chapel and Ortegas begin planning a party. Pike learns of this and asks Boimler to put a stop to it, but Boimler (who knows Pike's fate and doesn't yet know that Pike already knows) suggests that Pike should take the opportunity to spend more time with his friends. Pike relents, though Una notes that he's not as surprised as she expected.
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** Later, La'an and Uhura geek out over, respectively, Travis Mayweather and Hoshi Sato, crew of the NX-01 ''Enterprise''.

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** Later, La'an Ortegas and Uhura geek out over, respectively, Travis Mayweather and Hoshi Sato, crew of the NX-01 ''Enterprise''.
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** Boimler sees Pike's saddle in the ready room and decides to try it out with an excited "Riker!" as he mounts it. This is in reference to the FanNickname [[invoked]] of the "Riker Maneuver" in how Riker would sit down by swinging his leg over the chair, like mounting a horse[[note]]Not to be confused with the InUniverse Riker Maneuver from ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection'' where in battle he dragged explosive gas through the buzzard collectors before dropping it on an enemy ship[[/note]]. Triple points in that Creator/JonathanFrakes directed the episode.

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** Boimler sees Pike's saddle in the ready room and decides to try it out with an excited "Riker!" as he mounts it. This is in reference to the FanNickname [[invoked]] of the "Riker Maneuver" in how Riker would sit down by swinging his leg over the chair, like mounting a horse[[note]]Not to be confused with the InUniverse Riker Maneuver from ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection'' where in battle he dragged explosive gas through the buzzard bussard collectors before dropping it on an enemy ship[[/note]]. Triple points in that Creator/JonathanFrakes directed the episode.
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* AscendedMeme: Season 1 sparked a lot of fandom jokes about [[MemeticHair Pike's Peak]][[invoked]], i.e. the fact that Pike's hairstyle is seemingly as unflappable as he usually is. Boimler remarks upon meeting Pike that he's famous in part for having "great hair."
** Ironically, the animated Pike's hair sticks out a bit ''less'' than the realistic Pike's hair does.

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Season 1 sparked a lot of fandom jokes about [[MemeticHair Pike's Peak]][[invoked]], i.e. the fact that Pike's hairstyle is seemingly as unflappable as he usually is. Boimler remarks upon meeting Pike that he's famous in part for having "great hair."
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" Ironically, the animated Pike's hair sticks out a bit ''less'' than the realistic Pike's hair does.does.
** Boimler sees Pike's saddle in the ready room and decides to try it out with an excited "Riker!" as he mounts it. This is in reference to the FanNickname [[invoked]] of the "Riker Maneuver" in how Riker would sit down by swinging his leg over the chair, like mounting a horse[[note]]Not to be confused with the InUniverse Riker Maneuver from ''Film/StarTrekInsurrection'' where in battle he dragged explosive gas through the buzzard collectors before dropping it on an enemy ship[[/note]]. Triple points in that Creator/JonathanFrakes directed the episode.
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* LegacyCharacter: Boimler geeks out over being on the bridge of the legendary ship, commenting on its' registry being "[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration 1701... no dash]]" and other crew wonder what he means by that. Earlier he had mentioned that this was the ORIGINAL Enterprise, but had to [[Series/StarTrekEnterprise correct himself on an earlier one]].


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* LowerDeckEpisode: Other than the LiteralMetaphor at play, the episode is trying to maximize the interactions between Boimler and Mariner with the past characters who have become FamedInStory by their time period. Pike is repeatedly doing a FacePalm over their antics, but they are still Starfleet ensigns who have the opportunity to meet absolute legends either at their prime or in their formative years.


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* {{Unobtanium}}: The portal device is powered by horonium, a sturdy building material that fell out of favor as supply ran out but was heavily used in the construction of the NX class. After using up a tiny bit of resources that was available, Spock and Boimler attempt to manually fabricate a new batch but [[MadeOfExplodium the results were explosive]]. Boimler and Mariner then realized Starfleet tradition was to take a sample of the hull from a decommissioned ship to be used in the construction of its' replacement, so the NCC-1701 Enterprise had a piece of the NX-01 Enterprise underneath a floor panel in engineering.
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* AnimationBump: The opening credits are animated with a few stylistic touches similar to ''Lower Decks'', but significantly more detailed and with a cleaner frame rate than the main show.


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* EasterEgg: The animated opening sequence inserts a handful of extra ''Lower Decks'' references, from an alien creature sucking on a nacelle to a constellation of the "cosmic koala" in the title screen.

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* {{Crossover}}: Between ''Strange New Worlds'' and ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks''. This is also notable for being the very first time characters from an animated ''Trek'' series have crossed over into the franchise's live-action branch (as opposed to the live-action actors crossing over for ''Lower Decks'' or ''Prodigy'').

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* {{Crossover}}: Between ''Strange New Worlds'' and ''WesternAnimation/StarTrekLowerDecks''. This is also notable for being the very first time characters from an animated ''Trek'' series have crossed over into the franchise's live-action branch (as opposed to the live-action actors crossing over for ''Lower Decks'' or ''Prodigy'').''Prodigy''), or with MediumBlending of this kind.



** Boimler and Mariner think people in the past talk really slowly and quietly, which is largely an artifact of the difference between an hour-long live-action drama and a half-hour animated comedy.
** Boimler exclaims "[[OhMyGods Holy Q!]]", only for Mariner to point out that he hasn't appeared yet and this era has Trelane (from the TOS episode "The Squire of Gothos"). Q as a character was deliberately modeled after Trelane, and Trelane is popularly believed to be a member of the Q Continuum.

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** Boimler and Mariner think people in the past talk really slowly and quietly, which is largely an artifact reflective of the difference between an hour-long live-action drama and a half-hour animated comedy.
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** Boimler exclaims "[[OhMyGods Holy Q!]]", only for Mariner to point out that he hasn't appeared yet and this era has Trelane a "Trelane thing" (from the TOS episode "The Squire of Gothos"). Q as a character was deliberately modeled after Trelane, and Trelane as a concept was long considered to be a forerunner for Q, and in certain EU works is popularly believed actually said to be a member of the Q Continuum.


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* SeenItAll: In both time periods there is protocol when dealing with people who are temporally displaced, which results in more of a madcap comedy episode rather than one truly centered on paradoxes. Due to the character personalities it is the Enterprise crew who have to remind Boimler and Mariner not to disclose future events.


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* ThatCameOutWrong: When Una is curious over Boimler's strange behavior around her, Mariner explains that he keeps a poster of her, which Una interprets as [[AdmiringThePoster a pin-up poster]]. Mariner later clarifies it isn't a sexy poster but a Starfleet Recruitment poster with her personal motto "Ad Astra per Aspera" as the DareToBeBadass catchphrase, which actually inspired Boimler to join Starfleet. Boimler then adds he keeps it in his bunk, which he quickly realized also came out sounding wrong.
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* EurekaMoment: When Pike starts reminiscing about the ''Enterprise'' NX-01, Boimler realizes that there's a piece of horonium from that ''Enterprise'' aboard the 1701, which they can use to restart the portal.


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* GotMeDoingIt: Ortegas and Uhura start fangirling over Travis Mayweather and Hoshi Sato respectively, and then realize that they're acting like Boimler and Mariner.
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* BuffySpeak: When the portal first activates:
-->'''Rutherford:''' Uh, guys? The ancient thing is doing a thing!\\
''(the portal starts levitating Boimler)''\\
'''Boimler:''' HELP! THE PORTAL'S TRYING TO PORTAL ME!


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* HandsGoDown: When Pike asks for help dealing with the Orions:
-->'''Pike:''' Ideas?\\
''(Boimler raises his hand)''\\
'''Pike:''' ''Not'' you.\\
'''Boimler:''' ''(lowers his hand)'' Fair.
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* RestrictedExpandedUniverse: A strange example, as it takes place within one of the main series, but Boimler makes no reference to the future of any non-legacy character. This is probably a mixture of not spoiling future plot points, and the writers trying to avoid being too self-congratulatory.
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** Later, La'an and Uhura geek out over, respectively, Travis Mayweather and Hoshi Sato, crew of the NX-01 ''Enterprise''.
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** Boimler at one point draws comparisons between Trelane (from the TOS episode ''The Squire of Gothos'') and Q. Q as a character was deliberately modeled after Trelane, and Trelane is popularly believed to be a member of the Q Continuum.

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** Boimler at one exclaims "[[OhMyGods Holy Q!]]", only for Mariner to point draws comparisons between out that he hasn't appeared yet and this era has Trelane (from the TOS episode ''The "The Squire of Gothos'') and Q.Gothos"). Q as a character was deliberately modeled after Trelane, and Trelane is popularly believed to be a member of the Q Continuum.
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** Boimler at one point draws comparisons between Trelane (from the TOS episode ''The Dquire of Gothos'') and Q. Q as a character was deliberately modeled after Trelane, and Trelane is popularly believed to be a member of the Q Continuum.

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** Boimler at one point draws comparisons between Trelane (from the TOS episode ''The Dquire Squire of Gothos'') and Q. Q as a character was deliberately modeled after Trelane, and Trelane is popularly believed to be a member of the Q Continuum.
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** Boimler at one point draws comparisons between Treland (frome the TOS episode ''The Dquire of Gothos'') and Q. Q as a character was a deliberately modeled after Trelane anx Trelane is popularly believed to be a member of the Q continuum.
* LegendaryInTheSequel: All of the ''Enterprise'' crew here are galactic legends in Starfleet by the time of the 2380s, with Pike's birthday becoming a holiday, Una being used for recruitment posters, Oretegas known as a war hero, and Spock being known as the most famous Vulcan of his time.

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** Boimler at one point draws comparisons between Treland (frome Trelane (from the TOS episode ''The Dquire of Gothos'') and Q. Q as a character was a deliberately modeled after Trelane anx Trelane, and Trelane is popularly believed to be a member of the Q continuum.Continuum.
* LegendaryInTheSequel: All of the ''Enterprise'' crew here are galactic legends in Starfleet by the time of the 2380s, with Pike's birthday becoming a holiday, Una being used for recruitment posters, Oretegas Ortegas known as a war hero, and Spock being known as the most famous Vulcan of his time.
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** Boimler at one point draws comparisons between Treland (frome the TOS episode ''The Dquire of Gothos'') and Q. Q as a character was a deliberately modeled after Trelane anx Trelane is popularly believed to be a member of the Q continuum.
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* GargleBlaster: In an effort to get Uhura to relax, Mariner makes Orion Hurricanes for themselves and Ortegas in the ''Enterprise'' bar and mentions that she had to improvise since she didn't have Orion delaq on hand, which she says is actually an improvement, since actual delaq has weird effects on human neurochemistry. Ortegas forgets about this when making authentic versions at the end of the episode, causing the crew to see themselves animated in ''Lower Decks'' style

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* GargleBlaster: In an effort to get Uhura to relax, Mariner makes Orion Hurricanes for themselves and Ortegas in the ''Enterprise'' bar and mentions that she had to improvise since she didn't have Orion delaq on hand, which she says is actually an improvement, since actual delaq has weird effects on human neurochemistry. Ortegas forgets about this when making authentic versions at the end of the episode, causing the crew to see themselves animated in ''Lower Decks'' stylestyle.

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Savviness of their own world isn't savviness with fiction


* GargleBlaster: In an effort to get Uhura to relax, Mariner makes Orion Hurricanes for themselves and Ortegas in the ''Enterprise'' bar and mentions that she had to improvise since she didn't have Orion delaq on hand, which she says is actually an improvement, since actual delaq has weird effects on human neurochemistry. Ortegas forgets about this when making authentic versions at the end of the episode, causing the crew to see themselves animated in ''Lower Decks'' style.
* GenreSavvy: Boimler gets nervous upon seeing Spock laughing and smiling. In ''Trek'', when Vulcan characters do that, it is a sign something is very wrong with them (as was demonstrated two episodes ago).

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* GargleBlaster: In an effort to get Uhura to relax, Mariner makes Orion Hurricanes for themselves and Ortegas in the ''Enterprise'' bar and mentions that she had to improvise since she didn't have Orion delaq on hand, which she says is actually an improvement, since actual delaq has weird effects on human neurochemistry. Ortegas forgets about this when making authentic versions at the end of the episode, causing the crew to see themselves animated in ''Lower Decks'' style.
* GenreSavvy: Boimler gets nervous upon seeing Spock laughing and smiling. In ''Trek'', when Vulcan characters do that, it is a sign something is very wrong with them (as was demonstrated two episodes ago).
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* GenreSavvy: Boimler gets nervous upon seeing Spock laughing and smiling. In Trek when Vulcan characters do that it is a sign something is very wrong with them.

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* GenreSavvy: Boimler gets nervous upon seeing Spock laughing and smiling. In Trek ''Trek'', when Vulcan characters do that that, it is a sign something is very wrong with them.them (as was demonstrated two episodes ago).
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* GenreSavvy: Boimler gets nervous upon seeing Spock laughing and smiling. In Trek when Vulcan characters do that it is a sign something is very wrong with them.

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