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** Turns out that Pierce and the Sinnerman were this, though probably not in the way most people were expecting.
** To say nothing of the fact that Pierce is literally one half of the TropeNamer.
** To say nothing of the fact that Pierce is literally one half of the TropeNamer.
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** Turns out that Pierce and the Sinnerman were this, though probably not in the way that most people were expecting.
** To say nothing ofthe fact that Pierce is literally being one half of the TropeNamer.
** To say nothing of
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* ExactWords: Pierce told Chloe that the Sinnerman killed his brother. Since ''he's'' the real Sinnerman, he was actually talking about the time he killed his own brother, Abel.
* IAlwaysWantedToSayThat: When Chloe begins questioning Sinnerman he replies by quoting Hannibal Lecter's "I ate his liver" speech from ''Film/TheSilenceOfTheLambs'' before laughing and admitting he just always wanted to say that.
* IAlwaysWantedToSayThat: When Chloe begins questioning Sinnerman he replies by quoting Hannibal Lecter's "I ate his liver" speech from ''Film/TheSilenceOfTheLambs'' before laughing and admitting he just always wanted to say that.
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* ExactWords: Pierce told Chloe that the Sinnerman killed his brother. Since ''he's'' the real Sinnerman, he was actually talking about the time that he killed his own brother, Abel.
* IAlwaysWantedToSayThat: When Chloe begins questioningSinnerman Sinnerman, he replies by quoting Hannibal Lecter's "I ate his liver" speech from ''Film/TheSilenceOfTheLambs'' before laughing and admitting that he just always wanted to say that.
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* INeverSaidItWasPoison: During the investigation, Chloe and Lucifer find a grenade in a car and race off before it explodes. Later, finding the kidnap victim, they press her on what happened with the car exploding. She mentions the grenade must have rolled free somehow at which point Chloe states they never said it was a grenade, simply an explosive. This is the key to discovering the "kidnapping" was faked.
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* INeverSaidItWasPoison: During the investigation, Chloe and Lucifer find a grenade in a car and race off before it explodes. Later, finding the kidnap victim, they press her on what happened with the car exploding. She mentions that the grenade must have rolled free somehow somehow, at which point Chloe states that they never said it was a grenade, simply an explosive. This is the key to discovering that the "kidnapping" was faked.
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--->'''Maze:''' I'm a demon. [[BloodKnight Big fan of death and destruction]]. But killing a human is angel no-nos 101! Look at your brother--[[BroughtDownToNormal total power loss]] and he only got murder adjacent.
** When it comes down to it, though, Lucifer realizes that he doesn't have it in him to actually kill a human. [[NightmareFace Hurt them]], [[ColdBloodedTorture brutally torture them]] or [[FateWorseThanDeath punish them for their crimes]], however... that's another story.
** When it comes down to it, though, Lucifer realizes that he doesn't have it in him to actually kill a human. [[NightmareFace Hurt them]], [[ColdBloodedTorture brutally torture them]] or [[FateWorseThanDeath punish them for their crimes]], however... that's another story.
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--->'''Maze:''' I'm a demon. [[BloodKnight Big fan of death and destruction]]. But killing a human is angel no-nos 101! Look at your brother--[[BroughtDownToNormal brother-- [[BroughtDownToNormal total power loss]] loss]], and he only got murder adjacent.
** When it comes down to it, though, Lucifer realizes that he doesn't have it in him to actually kill a human. [[NightmareFace Hurt them]], [[ColdBloodedTorture brutally torturethem]] them]], or [[FateWorseThanDeath punish them for their crimes]], however... that's another story.
** When it comes down to it, though, Lucifer realizes that he doesn't have it in him to actually kill a human. [[NightmareFace Hurt them]], [[ColdBloodedTorture brutally torture
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''[Lucifer grabs a knife from the bar, whirls around and rams it into Pierce's chest. 33 seconds later, he '''gets back up'''.]''\\
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''[Lucifer grabs a knife from the bar, whirls around around, and rams it into Pierce's chest. 33 seconds later, he '''gets back up'''.]''\\
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* WhamShot: Lucifer stabs Pierce...who sits up after a few moments.
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* WhamShot: Lucifer stabs Pierce... who sits up after a few moments.
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* IAlwaysWantedToSayThat: When Chloe begins questioning Sinnerman he replies by quoting Hannibal Lecter's "I ate his liver" speech from ''Film/TheSilenceOfTheLambs'' before laughing and admitting he just always wanted to say that.
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* InevitablyBrokenRule: In this episode, it is established that God decreed that no angel is to kill a human lest some vague Biblical calamity were to happen. This rule is so serious that Lucifer -- who is hellbent on provoking him regardless of whatever compunctions he has for killing -- can't bring himself to kill the Sinnerman. He then risks incurring the Wrath of God on a gamble by stabbing Pierce in the chest and assuming that he had ResurrectiveImmortality based on a hunch.
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* MythologyGag: Lucifer reveals who Pierce really is [[InevitablyBrokenRule by stabbing him, unafraid of the repercussions of killing a human would bring (as established in this very episode) just to prove a point]]. In ''The Sandman'', Lucifer is the only person who ''ever'' hurts Cain in any way, unafraid of the LaserGuidedKarma from [[{{God}} the Presence]] that harming him would allegedly bring.
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-->'''Lucifer:''' Right. Well, we're both familiar with the "accomplice" theory; that our blind barbarian had someone working for him. Then it occurred to me that... what if the Sinnerman was the one working for someone else? What if ''he'' was the accomplice? Exhibit A: here is Mr. Sinnerman as a child with a man that he seems very close to. Interesting birthmark. It's a very similar shape to your military tattoo, actually. Wouldn't you agree?[[note]]'''Pierce:''' ...so?[[/note]] Well, so it stands to reason that this man would be very, very old by now! Or, if he isn't, he'd have to be... immortal.[[note]]'''Pierce:''' An immmortal crime boss? Just like you're the Devil?[[/note]] Yes, I know. It ''does'' sound rather absurd, doesn't it? So, as such, there's really only one way to... prove... my theory. Where did I... ah! There it is.[[note]]''[Lucifer grabs a knife from the bar, whirls around and rams it into Pierce's chest. 33 seconds later, he '''gets back up'''.]''[[/note]] I wondered why I didn't figure it out sooner! The World's First Murderer, marked by God and doomed to walk the Earth alone for a tortured eternity. It's quite the moniker! Yet... still, nowhere near as ridiculous as ''The Sinnerman''. Wouldn't you agree... '''Cain?'''
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-->'''Lucifer:''' Right. Well, we're both familiar with the "accomplice" theory; that our blind barbarian had someone working for him. Then it occurred to me that... what if the Sinnerman was the one working for someone else? What if ''he'' was the accomplice? Exhibit A: here is Mr. Sinnerman as a child with a man that he seems very close to. Interesting birthmark. It's a very similar shape to your military tattoo, actually. Wouldn't you agree?[[note]]'''Pierce:''' ...so?[[/note]] agree?\\
'''Pierce:''' ...so?\\
'''Lucifer:''' Well, so it stands to reason that this man would be very, very old by now! Or, if he isn't, he'd have to be... immortal.[[note]]'''Pierce:''' \\
'''Pierce:''' Animmmortal immortal crime boss? Just like you're the Devil?[[/note]] Devil?\\
'''Lucifer:''' Yes, I know. It ''does'' sound rather absurd, doesn't it? So, as such, there's really only one way to... ''[searches behind the bar]'' prove... my theory. Where did I... ah! There it is.[[note]]''[Lucifer \\
''[Lucifer grabs a knife from the bar, whirls around and rams it into Pierce's chest. 33 seconds later, he '''gets back up'''.]''[[/note]] ]''\\
'''Lucifer:''' I wondered why I didn't figure it out sooner! The World's First Murderer, marked by God and doomed to walk the Earth alone for a tortured eternity. It's quite the moniker! Yet... still, nowhere near as ridiculous as ''The Sinnerman''. Wouldn't you agree... '''Cain?'''
'''Pierce:''' ...so?\\
'''Lucifer:''' Well, so it stands to reason that this man would be very, very old by now! Or, if he isn't, he'd have to be... immortal.
'''Pierce:''' An
'''Lucifer:''' Yes, I know. It ''does'' sound rather absurd, doesn't it? So, as such, there's really only one way to... ''[searches behind the bar]'' prove... my theory. Where did I... ah! There it is.
''[Lucifer grabs a knife from the bar, whirls around and rams it into Pierce's chest. 33 seconds later, he '''gets back up'''.
'''Lucifer:''' I wondered why I didn't figure it out sooner! The World's First Murderer, marked by God and doomed to walk the Earth alone for a tortured eternity. It's quite the moniker! Yet... still, nowhere near as ridiculous as ''The Sinnerman''. Wouldn't you agree... '''Cain?'''
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** To say nothing of the fact that Pierce is one half of the TropeNamer.
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** To say nothing of the fact that Pierce is literally one half of the TropeNamer.
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Deleting Natter/WMG.
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** Angels can't kill a human. Now that Lucifer is officially an angel again, this rule applies to him as well. Although, considering that Lucifer's original wings were pristine (before he burned them) and his powers unaffected by his fall from angel to TheDevil millenia ago, he has probably never taken a human life.
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** Angels can't kill a human. Now that Lucifer is officially an angel again, this rule applies to him as well. Although, considering that Lucifer's original wings were pristine (before he burned them) and his powers unaffected by his fall from angel to TheDevil millenia ago, he has probably never taken a human life.
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* INeedAFreakingDrink: Pierce/Cain asks for one after Lucifer stabs him.
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--->'''Maze:''' I'm a demon. [[BloodKnight Big fan of death and destruction]]. But killing a human is angel no-nos 101! Look at your brother--[[BroughtDownToNormal total power loss]] and he only got murder adjecent.
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--->'''Maze:''' I'm a demon. [[BloodKnight Big fan of death and destruction]]. But killing a human is angel no-nos 101! Look at your brother--[[BroughtDownToNormal total power loss]] and he only got murder adjecent.adjacent.
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* {{Squee}}: Ella's blatant crush on Pierce can only be described in this term. Until he {{Suddenly Shout|ing}} at her.
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* {{Squee}}: Ella's blatant crush on Pierce can only be described in this term. Until he {{Suddenly Shout|ing}} way... until he's SuddenlyShouting at her.
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* {{Squee}}: Ella's blatant crush on Pierce can only be described in this term.
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* {{Squee}}: Ella's blatant crush on Pierce can only be described in this term. Until he {{Suddenly Shout|ing}} at her.
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* INeverSaidItWasPoison: During the investigation, Chloe and Lucifer find a grenade in a car and race off before it explodes. Later, finding the kidnap victim, they press her on what happened with the car exploding. She mentions the grenade must have rolled free somehow at which point Chloe states they never said it was a grenade, simply an explosive. This is the key to discovering the "kidnapping" was faked.
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* CompleteImmortality: As Lucifer puts it, Pierce/Cain is condemned to walk the Earth for the rest of eternity. Nothing and no one can kill him, short of possibly Azrael's blade itself. And it's not like anyone would ''want'' to, as, per the Bible, God promised to exact revenge seven-fold on anyone who killed Cain. Thus, when Lucifer stabs in the heart, he comes back to life about two minutes later, no worse for wear.
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* CompleteImmortality: As Lucifer puts it, Pierce/Cain is condemned to walk the Earth for the rest of eternity. Nothing and no one can kill him, short of possibly Azrael's blade itself. And it's not like anyone would ''want'' to, as, per the Bible, God promised to exact revenge seven-fold on anyone who killed Cain. Thus, when Lucifer stabs him in the heart, he comes back to life about two minutes later, no worse for wear.
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* CainAndAbel: Turns out that Pierce and the Sinnerman were this, though probably not in the way most people were expecting.
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* CainAndAbel: CainAndAbel:
** Turns out that Pierce and the Sinnerman were this, though probably not in the way most people wereexpecting.expecting.
** To say nothing of the fact that Pierce is one half of the TropeNamer.
** Turns out that Pierce and the Sinnerman were this, though probably not in the way most people were
** To say nothing of the fact that Pierce is one half of the TropeNamer.
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* CompleteImmortality: As Lucifer puts it, Pierce/Cain is condemned to walk the Earth for the rest of eternity. Nothing and no one can kill him, short of possibly Azrael's blade itself. And it's not like anyone would ''want'' to, as, per the Bible, God promised to exact revenge seven-fold on anyone who killed Cain. Thus, when Lucifer stabs in the heart, he comes back to life about two minutes later, no worse for wear.
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Episode title was 09 - The Sin Bin, when it should have been 10 - The Sin Bin. I moved it to the correct entry
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At Maze's urging, Lucifer decides to take care of the Sinnerman before the man has the opportunity to take any more from him, this time things he values far more than his devil face: his life in LA, the Lux, Chloe...
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!Tropes present in this episode include:
* CainAndAbel: Turns out that Pierce and the Sinnerman were this, though probably not in the way most people were expecting.
* CallBack:
** Dan's file on Lucifer comes into play when they need to find where Lucifer took the Sinnerman.
** Angels can't kill a human; God's rules, and no angel is exempt from them. Not even Lucifer.
* ExactWords: Pierce told Chloe that the Sinnerman killed his brother. Since ''he's'' the real Sinnerman, he was actually talking about the time he killed his own brother, Abel.
* ICannotSelfTerminate: For some reason, the Sinnerman wants Lucifer to kill him.
* MarkOfShame: The original one: the Mark of Cain, placed by God on the arm of the first murderer.
* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: TheStoic Pierce screams at Ella to stop talking when she gushes about how cool it was that he killed the Sinnerman.
-->'''Lucifer:''' What on earth...?
* TheReveal: Pierce is Cain, the first murderer, cursed by God to walk alone among humans for eternity.
* ShipperOnDeck: Trixie tries to push her dad and Charlotte together; she ends up arranging for the two of them to have a romantic date.
-->'''Dan:''' ''(whispers to Trixie)'' You are the best wingman ''ever''.
* {{Squee}}: Ella's blatant crush on Pierce can only be described in this term.
* ThouShaltNotKill:
** Angels can't kill a human. Now that Lucifer is officially an angel again, this rule applies to him as well. Although, considering that Lucifer's original wings were pristine (before he burned them) and his powers unaffected by his fall from angel to TheDevil millenia ago, he has probably never taken a human life.
** Lucifer thinks that by killing the Sinnerman himself he'll get his devil face back and get rid of his wings, although Maze cautions him against this, saying that God's rules aren't to be disobeyed so carelessly; after all, look at what happened to Amenadiel, and all he did was bring a condemned soul back from Hell.
--->'''Maze:''' I'm a demon. [[BloodKnight Big fan of death and destruction]]. But killing a human is angel no-nos 101! Look at your brother--[[BroughtDownToNormal total power loss]] and he only got murder adjecent.
** When it comes down to it, though, Lucifer realizes that he doesn't have it in him to actually kill a human. [[NightmareFace Hurt them]], [[ColdBloodedTorture brutally torture them]] or [[FateWorseThanDeath punish them for their crimes]], however... that's another story.
* WhamLine: When Lucifer puts the pieces together at the end of the episode, following his meeting with Pierce.
-->'''Lucifer:''' Right. Well, we're both familiar with the "accomplice" theory; that our blind barbarian had someone working for him. Then it occurred to me that... what if the Sinnerman was the one working for someone else? What if ''he'' was the accomplice? Exhibit A: here is Mr. Sinnerman as a child with a man that he seems very close to. Interesting birthmark. It's a very similar shape to your military tattoo, actually. Wouldn't you agree?[[note]]'''Pierce:''' ...so?[[/note]] Well, so it stands to reason that this man would be very, very old by now! Or, if he isn't, he'd have to be... immortal.[[note]]'''Pierce:''' An immmortal crime boss? Just like you're the Devil?[[/note]] Yes, I know. It ''does'' sound rather absurd, doesn't it? So, as such, there's really only one way to... prove... my theory. Where did I... ah! There it is.[[note]]''[Lucifer grabs a knife from the bar, whirls around and rams it into Pierce's chest. 33 seconds later, he '''gets back up'''.]''[[/note]] I wondered why I didn't figure it out sooner! The World's First Murderer, marked by God and doomed to walk the Earth alone for a tortured eternity. It's quite the moniker! Yet... still, nowhere near as ridiculous as ''The Sinnerman''. Wouldn't you agree... '''Cain?'''
* WhamShot: Lucifer stabs Pierce...who sits up after a few moments.
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!Tropes present in this episode include:
* CainAndAbel: Turns out that Pierce and the Sinnerman were this, though probably not in the way most people were expecting.
* CallBack:
** Dan's file on Lucifer comes into play when they need to find where Lucifer took the Sinnerman.
** Angels can't kill a human; God's rules, and no angel is exempt from them. Not even Lucifer.
* ExactWords: Pierce told Chloe that the Sinnerman killed his brother. Since ''he's'' the real Sinnerman, he was actually talking about the time he killed his own brother, Abel.
* ICannotSelfTerminate: For some reason, the Sinnerman wants Lucifer to kill him.
* MarkOfShame: The original one: the Mark of Cain, placed by God on the arm of the first murderer.
* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: TheStoic Pierce screams at Ella to stop talking when she gushes about how cool it was that he killed the Sinnerman.
-->'''Lucifer:''' What on earth...?
* TheReveal: Pierce is Cain, the first murderer, cursed by God to walk alone among humans for eternity.
* ShipperOnDeck: Trixie tries to push her dad and Charlotte together; she ends up arranging for the two of them to have a romantic date.
-->'''Dan:''' ''(whispers to Trixie)'' You are the best wingman ''ever''.
* {{Squee}}: Ella's blatant crush on Pierce can only be described in this term.
* ThouShaltNotKill:
** Angels can't kill a human. Now that Lucifer is officially an angel again, this rule applies to him as well. Although, considering that Lucifer's original wings were pristine (before he burned them) and his powers unaffected by his fall from angel to TheDevil millenia ago, he has probably never taken a human life.
** Lucifer thinks that by killing the Sinnerman himself he'll get his devil face back and get rid of his wings, although Maze cautions him against this, saying that God's rules aren't to be disobeyed so carelessly; after all, look at what happened to Amenadiel, and all he did was bring a condemned soul back from Hell.
--->'''Maze:''' I'm a demon. [[BloodKnight Big fan of death and destruction]]. But killing a human is angel no-nos 101! Look at your brother--[[BroughtDownToNormal total power loss]] and he only got murder adjecent.
** When it comes down to it, though, Lucifer realizes that he doesn't have it in him to actually kill a human. [[NightmareFace Hurt them]], [[ColdBloodedTorture brutally torture them]] or [[FateWorseThanDeath punish them for their crimes]], however... that's another story.
* WhamLine: When Lucifer puts the pieces together at the end of the episode, following his meeting with Pierce.
-->'''Lucifer:''' Right. Well, we're both familiar with the "accomplice" theory; that our blind barbarian had someone working for him. Then it occurred to me that... what if the Sinnerman was the one working for someone else? What if ''he'' was the accomplice? Exhibit A: here is Mr. Sinnerman as a child with a man that he seems very close to. Interesting birthmark. It's a very similar shape to your military tattoo, actually. Wouldn't you agree?[[note]]'''Pierce:''' ...so?[[/note]] Well, so it stands to reason that this man would be very, very old by now! Or, if he isn't, he'd have to be... immortal.[[note]]'''Pierce:''' An immmortal crime boss? Just like you're the Devil?[[/note]] Yes, I know. It ''does'' sound rather absurd, doesn't it? So, as such, there's really only one way to... prove... my theory. Where did I... ah! There it is.[[note]]''[Lucifer grabs a knife from the bar, whirls around and rams it into Pierce's chest. 33 seconds later, he '''gets back up'''.]''[[/note]] I wondered why I didn't figure it out sooner! The World's First Murderer, marked by God and doomed to walk the Earth alone for a tortured eternity. It's quite the moniker! Yet... still, nowhere near as ridiculous as ''The Sinnerman''. Wouldn't you agree... '''Cain?'''
* WhamShot: Lucifer stabs Pierce...who sits up after a few moments.
