History Quotes / TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong

->''"Mr. [[AssholeVictim Comeuppance]] returns to the bridge. Connie asks her if he managed to find Rennie. A relatively straightforward and pertinent question; let's see if he can respond like a complete asshat! 'She's locked safely in her room, no thanks to either of you!' He's still got it! Everyone's so used to his bad attitude they just let it roll off their backs. Best to let him snipe away from the shadows without giving him more things to bitch about. Frustrated that no one will spar with him verbally, MC whines about Sean. 'What the hell good are you? He's the son of a captain for chrissakes!' Sean plunks away on his navigation gizmo and finally announces that they're back on course. Now [[PlagueOfGoodFortune officially out of things to gripe about]], MC quivers in uncertainty. His head starts to tremble uncontrollably, racking his brain for something, ''anything'' to be negative about. Hurry! [[YourHeadAsplode About...to...blow!]] He thinks of something at last! [='=]'''GOOD!'''[='=] he says, negating the compliment by making the word sound like it was an involuntary grunt from a man savagely kicked in the balls by Music/HenryRollins."''

->''"Danny Pink is resurrected as a Cyberman, a soulless automaton and I couldn't tell the difference between this and the man that has dragged his heels throughout this past season. That's probably [[{{Narm}} the blackest joke of the year]]...I honestly couldn't tell the difference between their conversation about switching off his emotions and their conversation earlier in the season about unruly school kids."''

->''"Mr. [[AssholeVictim Comeuppance]] returns to the bridge. Connie asks her if he managed to find Rennie. A relatively straightforward and pertinent question; let's see if he can respond like a complete asshat! "She's locked safely in her room, no thanks to either of you!" He's still got it! Everyone's so used to his bad attitude they just let it roll off their backs. Best to let him snipe away from the shadows without giving him more things to bitch about. Frustrated that no one will spar with him verbally, MC whines about Sean. "What the hell good are you? He's the son of a captain for chrissakes!" Sean plunks away on his navigation gizmo and finally announces that they're back on course. Now [[PlagueOfGoodFortune officially out of things to gripe about]], MC quivers in uncertainty. His head starts to tremble uncontrollably, racking his brain for something, ''anything'' to be negative about. Hurry! [[YourHeadAsplode About...to...blow!]] He thinks of something at last! "'''GOOD!'''" he says, negating the compliment by making the word sound like it was an involuntary grunt from a man savagely kicked in the balls by Music/HenryRollins."''
-->--'''[[WebVideo/TheSpoonyExperiment Noah Antwiler]]''' [[http://spoonyexperiment.com/friday-13th-part-8/ on]] ''Film/FridayThe13thPartVIIIJasonTakesManhattan''

->''"It’s been a long, long time since the Doctor had an unwilling companion, and [[TheWScrappy with good reason]]. It worked in the very early days because we didn’t know the Doctor very well yet. And even there by the second season Ian and Barbara had essentially made their peace with the Doctor and were OK with traveling in space and time...Once the show reaches a point where the audience unambiguously is on the Doctor’s side and wishes they could travel in the TARDIS a companion who doesn’t want to be there is actively working against audience sympathy. So whenever Tegan visibly hates being on the TARDIS the audience finds itself siding with her altogether too much: [[GetOut we wish she’d sod off too]]."''

->''"It’s been a long, long time since [[DoctorWho the Doctor]] had an unwilling companion, and with good reason. It worked in the very early days because we didn’t know the Doctor very well yet. And even there by the second season Ian and Barbara had essentially made their peace with the Doctor and were OK with traveling in space and time...Once the show reaches a point where the audience unambiguously is on the Doctor’s side and wishes they could travel in the TARDIS a companion who doesn’t want to be there is actively working against audience sympathy. So whenever Tegan visibly hates being on the TARDIS the audience finds itself siding with her altogether too much: [[GetOut we wish she’d sod off too]]."''
-->-- '''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2012/02/because-we-dont-quite-fully-understand.html Phil Sandifer]]''' on "[[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS19E2FourToDoomsday}} Four to Doomsday]]"

-->--'''''Blog/TheComicsCurmudgeon''''', [[http://joshreads.com/?p=23363 10.3.14]]

->"It is not the ''critic'' who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better."
-->-- Attributed to '''TheodoreRoosevelt'''

->''"Consultants were brought in and we, the folks who were writing cartoons, were ordered to include certain "pro-social" morals in our shows. At the time, the dominant "pro-social" moral was as follows: [[StockAesops The group is always right.]]..the complainer is always wrong. This was the message of way too many [[TheEighties eighties']] cartoon shows. If all your friends want to go get pizza and you want a burger, you should bow to the will of the majority and go get pizza with them. There was even a show for one season on CBS called TheGetAlongGang, which was dedicated unabashedly to this principle. Each week, whichever member of the gang didn't get along with the gang learned the error of his or her ways."''

-->--'''Chris Sims''' [[http://comicsalliance.com/the-x-men-episode-guide-4x15-xavier-remembers/ on]] ''WesternAnimation/{{X-Men}}, "Xavier Remembers"

->''"It’s been a long, long time since [[DoctorWho the Doctor]] had an unwilling companion, and with good reason. It worked in the very early days because we didn’t know the Doctor very well yet. And even there by the second season Ian and Barbara had essentially made their peace with the Doctor and were OK with traveling in space and time...Once the show reaches a point where the audience unambiguously is on the Doctor’s side and wishes they could travel in the TARDIS a companion who doesn’t want to be there is actively working against audience sympathy. So whenever Tegan visibly hates being on the TARDIS the audience finds itself siding with her altogether too much: we wish she’d sod off too."''

->''"It’s been a long, long time since [[DoctorWho the Doctor]] had an unwilling companion, and with good reason. It worked in the very early days because we didn’t know the Doctor very well yet. And even there by the second season Ian and Barbara had essentially made their peace with the Doctor and were OK with traveling in space and time. The idea of a companion who doesn’t want to be on the TARDIS doesn’t really have a place in ''Doctor Who'' once the audience’s sympathies are 100% aligned with the Doctor. Once the show reaches a point where the audience unambiguously is on the Doctor’s side and wishes they could travel in the TARDIS a companion who doesn’t want to be there is actively working against audience sympathy. So whenever Tegan visibly hates being on the TARDIS the audience finds itself siding with her altogether too much: we wish she’d sod off too."''
-->-- '''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2012/02/because-we-dont-quite-fully-understand.html Phil Sandifer]]''', "[[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS19E2FourToDoomsday}} Four to Doomsday]]"

->''"Mr. [[AssholeVictim Comeuppance]] returns to the bridge. Connie asks her if he managed to find Rennie. A relatively straightforward and pertinent question; let's see if he can respond like a complete asshat! "She's locked safely in her room, no thanks to either of you!" He's still got it! Everyone's so used to his bad attitude they just let it roll off their backs. Best to let him snipe away from the shadows without giving him more things to bitch about. Frustrated that no one will spar with him verbally, MC whines about Sean. "What the hell good are you? He's the son of a captain for chrissakes!" Sean plunks away on his navigation gizmo and finally announces that they're back on course. Now [[PlagueOfGoodFortune officially out of things to gripe about]], MC quivers in uncertainty. His head starts to tremble uncontrollably, racking his brain for something, ''anything'' to be negative about. Hurry! [[YourHeadAsplode About...to...blow!]] He thinks of something at last! "'''GOOD!'''" he says, negating the compliment by making the word sound like it was an involuntary grunt from a man savagely kicked in the balls by Henry Rollins."''

->''"Mr. [[AssholeVictim Comeuppance]] returns to the bridge. Connie asks her if he managed to find Rennie. A relatively straightforward and pertinent question; let's see if he can respond like a complete asshat! "She's locked safely in her room, no thanks to either of you!" He's still got it! Everyone's so used to his bad attitude they just let it roll off their backs. Best to let him snipe away from the shadows without giving him more things to bitch about. Frustrated that no one will spar with him verbally, MC whines about Sean. "What the hell good are you? He's the son of a captain for chrissakes!" Sean plunks away on his navigation gizmo and finally announces that they're back on course. Now [[PlagueOfGoodFortune officially out of things to gripe about]], MC quivers in uncertainty. His head starts to tremble uncontrollably, racking his brain for something, ''anything'' to be negative about. Hurry! About...to...blow! He thinks of something at last! "'''GOOD!'''" he says, negating the compliment by making the word sound like it was an involuntary grunt from a man savagely kicked in the balls by Henry Rollins."''

->''"Mr. [[AssholeVictim Comeuppance]] returns to the bridge. Connie asks her if he managed to find Rennie. A relatively straightforward and pertinent question; let's see if he can respond like a complete asshat! "She's locked safely in her room, no thanks to either of you!" He's still got it! Everyone's so used to his bad attitude they just let it roll off their backs... Best to let him snipe away from the shadows without giving him more things to bitch about. Frustrated that no one will spar with him verbally, MC whines about Sean. "What the hell good are you? He's the son of a captain for chrissakes!" Sean plunks away on his navigation gizmo and finally announces that they're back on course... Now officially out of things to gripe about, MC quivers in uncertainty. His head starts to tremble uncontrollably, racking his brain for something, ''anything'' to be negative about. Hurry! About...to...blow! He thinks of something at last! "'''GOOD!'''" he says, negating the compliment by making the word sound like it was an involuntary grunt from a man savagely kicked in the balls by Henry Rollins."''

->''"Mr. [[Assholevictim Comeuppance]] returns to the bridge. Connie asks her if he managed to find Rennie. A relatively straightforward and pertinent question; let's see if he can respond like a complete asshat! "She's locked safely in her room, no thanks to either of you!" He's still got it! Everyone's so used to his bad attitude they just let it roll off their backs... Best to let him snipe away from the shadows without giving him more things to bitch about. Frustrated that no one will spar with him verbally, MC whines about Sean. "What the hell good are you? He's the son of a captain for chrissakes!" Sean plunks away on his navigation gizmo and finally announces that they're back on course... Now officially out of things to gripe about, MC quivers in uncertainty. His head starts to tremble uncontrollably, racking his brain for something, ''anything'' to be negative about. Hurry! About...to...blow! He thinks of something at last! "'''GOOD!'''" he says, negating the compliment by making the word sound like it was an involuntary grunt from a man savagely kicked in the balls by Henry Rollins."''

->''"Mr. Comeuppance returns to the bridge. Connie asks her if he managed to find Rennie. A relatively straightforward and pertinent question; let's see if he can respond like a complete asshat! "She's locked safely in her room, no thanks to either of you!" He's still got it! Everyone's so used to his bad attitude they just let it roll off their backs... Best to let him snipe away from the shadows without giving him more things to bitch about. Frustrated that no one will spar with him verbally, MC whines about Sean. "What the hell good are you? He's the son of a captain for chrissakes!" Sean plunks away on his navigation gizmo and finally announces that they're back on course... Now officially out of things to gripe about, MC quivers in uncertainty. His head starts to tremble uncontrollably, racking his brain for something, ''anything'' to be negative about. Hurry! About...to...blow! He thinks of something at last! "'''GOOD!'''" he says, negating the compliment by making the word sound like it was an involuntary grunt from a man savagely kicked in the balls by Henry Rollins."''

->''The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently.''
-->-- FrederkickNietzsche

->''It’s been a long, long time since [[DoctorWho the Doctor]] had an unwilling companion, and with good reason. It worked in the very early days because we didn’t know the Doctor very well yet. And even there by the second season Ian and Barbara had essentially made their peace with the Doctor and were OK with traveling in space and time. The idea of a companion who doesn’t want to be on the TARDIS doesn’t really have a place in ''Doctor Who'' once the audience’s sympathies are 100% aligned with the Doctor. Once the show reaches a point where the audience unambiguously is on the Doctor’s side and wishes they could travel in the TARDIS a companion who doesn’t want to be there is actively working against audience sympathy. So whenever Tegan visibly hates being on the TARDIS the audience finds itself siding with her altogether too much: we wish she’d sod off too.''

->(The doors of the Great Hall burst open and a wall of water crashes through, knocking the Vikings off their feet. There is little doubt that the whole of Hy-Brasil is sinking see a street go down, a statue sink and then we Cut to a close-up of King Arnulf. He is standing at the top of the Forum steps addressing a crowd of anxious citizens. They are keeping surprisingly good order considering they are already standing ankle-deep in water, and the whole town is rapidly sinking around them.)
->KING ARNULF: Now, I know what some of you must be thinking... the day has come.... we're all going down, etc. etc. But let's get away from the fantasy and look at the ''facts''. ''Fact One'' - The threat of total destruction has kept the peace for one thousand years. ''Fact Two'' - The chances of it failing now are therefore one in three hundred and sixty-five thousand. ''Fact Three''..."
->(By this time the water is up to people's knees, and several have crowded onto the lower steps to avoid getting wet.)
->KING ARNULF: "''Fact Three'' - Our safety regulations are the most rigorous in the world. We are all nice to each other, we never rub each other up the wrong way or contradict each other, do we?"
->CROWD: "No."
->(Rumble. The buildings sink and masonry falls.)
->CITIZEN: "We... er... ''do'' seem to be going down quite fast, Your Majesty - not trying to contradict you, course."
->KING ARNULF: "No, of course you're not, citizen. But let's stick to the facts. There has ''never'' been a safer, more certain way of keeping the peace. So whatever's happening, you can rest assured, Hy-Brasil is ''not'' sinking. Repeat, ''not'' sinking."
-->--''Film/ErikTheViking''

->In another part of [Mark Evanier]'s site that you probably won't find, Mark makes a comment about an earlier show he worked on that, though he might not have realized it, reveals the exact reason for the existence of three bears who were constantly trying to force a lesson down {{Garfield}}'s throat; the lessson of "if you ever disagree, it means that you are wrong."
->[[FridgeLogic When you think about it, that was a strange message to be constantly delivering.]] "You must always agree with the group" is something I've never heard preached in any real educational show. And why would it be? All those shows shout the opposite: to BeYourself. [[BrokenAesop And what if the group]] [[DrugsAreBad wanted to take drugs]] or something? It was actually an inside joke. Listen to Mark tell about his experiences writing for 80's cartoon shows:\\
Consultants were brought in and we, the folks who were writing cartoons, were ordered to include certain "pro-social" morals in our shows. At the time, the dominant "pro-social" moral was as follows: The group is always right...the complainer is always wrong.\\
This was the message of way too many eighties' cartoon shows. If all your friends want to go get pizza and you want a burger, you should bow to the will of the majority and go get pizza with them. There was even a show for one season on CBS called TheGetAlongGang, which was dedicated unabashedly to this principle. Each week, whichever member of the gang didn't get along with the gang learned the error of his or her ways.''
->--PlatypusComix's [[http://www.platypuscomix.net/onlyme/garfpage.html Garfield and Friends Supapage]]

->"It is not the ''critic'' who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better."
-->-- Attributed to '''TheodoreRoosevelt'''

->''"I don't believe you should always go along with the group. What about thinking for yourself? What about developing your own personality and viewpoint? What about doing things because you decide they're the right thing to do, not because the majority ruled and you got outvoted?\\
We weren't allowed to teach any of that. We had to teach kids to join gangs. And then to do whatever the rest of the gang wanted to do.\\
What a stupid thing to teach children."''
-->-- '''Mark Evanier''' (again)

-->-- '''Paul-Maud'Dib''', '''{{Dune}}''

->''It’s been a long, long time since [[DoctorWho the Doctor]] had an unwilling companion, and with good reason. It worked in the very early days because we didn’t know the Doctor very well yet. And even there by the second season Ian and Barbara had essentially made their peace with the Doctor and were OK with traveling in space and time. The idea of a companion who doesn’t want to be on the TARDIS doesn’t really have a place in ''Doctor Who'' one the audience’s sympathies are 100% aligned with the Doctor. Once the show reaches a point where the audience unambiguously is on the Doctor’s side and wishes they could travel in the TARDIS a companion who doesn’t want to be there is actively working against audience sympathy. So whenever Tegan visibly hates being on the TARDIS the audience finds itself siding with her altogether too much: we wish she’d sod off too.''

->''The eye that looks ahead to the safe course is closed forever.''

->''"Oh, we are the Buddy Bears, we always get along\\

Oh, we are the Buddy Bears, we always get along!"''

->''"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently."''
-->-- Nietzsche

->[[FridgeLogic When you think about it, that was a strange message to be constantly delivering.]] "You must always agree with the group" is something I've never heard preached in any real educational show. And why would it be? All those shows shout the opposite: to BeYourself. [[BrokenAesop And what if the group]] [[DrugsAreBad wanted to take drugs]] or something? It was actually an inside joke. Listen to Mark tell about his experiences writing for 80's cartoon shows:

->''Consultants were brought in and we, the folks who were writing cartoons, were ordered to include certain "pro-social" morals in our shows. At the time, the dominant "pro-social" moral was as follows: The group is always right...the complainer is always wrong.''

->''This was the message of way too many eighties' cartoon shows. If all your friends want to go get pizza and you want a burger, you should bow to the will of the majority and go get pizza with them. There was even a show for one season on CBS called TheGetAlongGang, which was dedicated unabashedly to this principle. Each week, whichever member of the gang didn't get along with the gang learned the error of his or her ways.''

->''"[[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong It is not the critic who counts]]: not the man who [[WhatTheHellHero points out how]] [[TheHero the strong man]] [[MoralDissonance stumbles]] or where the doer of [[ShootTheDog deeds]] could have done better."''

->''"I don't believe you should always go along with the group. What about thinking for yourself? What about developing your own personality and viewpoint? What about doing things because you decide they're the right thing to do, not because the majority ruled and you got outvoted?

->We weren't allowed to teach any of that. We had to teach kids to join gangs. And then to do whatever the rest of the gang wanted to do.

->What a stupid thing to teach children."''

We weren't allowed to teach any of that. We had to teach kids to join gangs. And then to do whatever the rest of the gang wanted to do.

What a stupid thing to teach children."''

-->--''ErikTheViking''

->''"[[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong It is not the critic who counts]]: not the man who points out how [[TheHero the strong man]] [[MoralDissonance stumbles]] or where the doer of [[ShootTheDog deeds]] could have done better."''

->--PlatypusComix's [[http://www.platypuscomix.net/onlyme/garfpage.html Garfield and Friends Supapage]]

-->In another part of [Mark Evanier]'s site that you probably won't find, Mark makes a comment about an earlier show he worked on that, though he might not have realized it, reveals the exact reason for the existence of three bears who were constantly trying to force a lesson down {{Garfield}}'s throat; the lessson of "if you ever disagree, it means that you are wrong."
-->[[FridgeLogic When you think about it, that was a strange message to be constantly delivering.]] "You must always agree with the group" is something I've never heard preached in any real educational show. And why would it be? All those shows shout the opposite: to BeYourself. [[BrokenAesop And what if the group]] [[DrugsAreBad wanted to take drugs]] or something? It was actually an inside joke. Listen to Mark tell about his experiences writing for 80's cartoon shows:

-->''Consultants were brought in and we, the folks who were writing cartoons, were ordered to include certain "pro-social" morals in our shows. At the time, the dominant "pro-social" moral was as follows: The group is always right...the complainer is always wrong.''

-->''This was the message of way too many eighties' cartoon shows. If all your friends want to go get pizza and you want a burger, you should bow to the will of the majority and go get pizza with them. There was even a show for one season on CBS called TheGetAlongGang, which was dedicated unabashedly to this principle. Each week, whichever member of the gang didn't get along with the gang learned the error of his or her ways.''

-->--PlatypusComix's [[http://www.platypuscomix.net/onlyme/garfpage.html Garfield and Friends Supapage]]

-->--''ErikTheViking''

-->-- Nietzsche