History Quotes / ProtectionFromEditors

->''"Normally, by this time in the video, I would have introduced the [[PointyHairedBoss stuffy executive that didn't know the difference between a polygon and a pixel]] bursting into the office […] and [[ExecutiveMeddling ruining the game]], but that apparently didn't happen with ''[[VideoGame/JurassicParkTrespasser Trespasser]]''. [...] This lack of management is unfortunately something that hurt the project, because sometimes you ''do'' need another experienced set of eyes to take an objective look at [[SkewedPriorities what's not worth slamming your head into over and over]]."''

->''"Why would ''you'' need to improve? Why would ''you'' need to get any better? Everyone just agrees with ''your'' shitty ideas because you're a ''Zelda''."''
-->-- '''Creator/{{Egoraptor}}''' on ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'', ''WebVideo/{{Sequelitis}}'', "[[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XOC3vixnj_0&pp=ygUKc2VxdWVsaXRpcw%3D%3D ZELDA: A Link to the Past vs. Ocarina of Time]]"

->''"Why would ''you'' need to improve? Why would ''you'' need to get any better? Everyone just agrees with ''your'' shitty ideas because you're a ''Zelda''."''
-->-- '''Creator/{{Egoraptor}}''' on ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'', ''WebVideo/{{Sequelitis}}'', "[[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XOC3vixnj_0&pp=ygUKc2VxdWVsaXRpcw%3D%3D ZELDA: A Link to the Past vs. Ocarina of Time]]"

->"Aw, and he was so ''underappreciated.'' He wasn't given the ''credit'' that he deserved, that he was ''responsible'' for. Nobody ''recognized'' him. You know what they're 'recognizing' now? What Vince Russo's shit looks like when he didn't have Wrestling/VinceMcMahon standing over him saying, 'You know, those twenty-four ideas are real bullshit, but I'll take ''this'' good one."

->Marville'' does not have the stuff that makes for top-selling comics, but it does explore the origin and meaning of life, so I thought it was worth a six-issue series. And, because I’m president of Creator/{{Marvel|Comics}}, I could ignore the bean counters and publish '' Marville'' without regard for minimum sales projections and margin requirements.''

->"We know what happens when the publisher shits the bed, but what about when the ''developer'' earns the displeasure of the hotel chambermaid? When they are given ''too much'' development time as opposed to too little as the publisher comforts themselves with the knowledge that even Creator/StanleyKubrick once took 170 takes to the same scene, willfully ignoring the fact that while Stanley Kubrick was a flighty auteur genius the same behavior pattern could easily be displayed by an incompetent spod with no planning skills and an indirectly proportional ego?"
-->--'''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''{{VideoGame/Daikatana}}''

->''Given that his plot ideas for the sequel included gems like ''[='=][[WhoShotJFK Spock shoots JFK]][='=]'', perhaps shuffling [[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Roddenberry]] as far from influence as humanly possible was a shrewd decision, as the studio [[GodDoesNotOwnThisWorld pushed him into a generic (and neutered) 'consultant' role.]]''
-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2013/08/06/non-review-review-star-trek-ii-the-wrath-of-khan/ Darren Mooney]]''' on ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan''

->''I imagine this was largely because Creator/TimBurton ended every conversation with 'F*** you, I’m Tim F***ing Burton and I can do whatever I want.[='=]''
-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''David Uzumeri''' on ''Film/Batman1989''

->''[[Creator/PaulVerhoeven Verhoeven]] was confident enough in ''{{Film/Showgirls}}''[=’=] success that he deferred 70% of his $6 million dollar directing fees in exchange for complete creative control and the ability to release the movie with an NC-17 rating. Verhoeven would receive the rest of his fee if the movie was a hit… [[BoxOfficeBomb which it was not.]]''
-->--'''[[https://lebeauleblog.com/2015/01/30/what-the-hell-happened-to-elizabeth-berkley/#more-21071 LeBeau]]''', "What the Hell Happened to Creator/ElizabethBerkley?"

->''There’s a huge clue in the book ''The Man who Heard Voices'', which is devoted to the production of ''Film/LadyInTheWater''. The book covers, in great detail, how blown away Night is by a {{Creator/Disney}} executive who unthinkably failed to "get" his script, and the soul-searching, sweaty-sheeted introspection about just what was wrong with other people, that they couldn’t see how incredible his story was.''

->''I would still like to see [[Creator/DavidLynch Jennifer Lynch]] direct a movie without that terrible screenwriter she always drags along also coincidentially named Jennifer Lynch.''

->''I remember being quite miffed after watching 90 minutes of generally badly judged television and wondering how Creator/RussellTDavies could have got it so wrong.''
-->--'''[[http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5386390949828958591&postID=6384766376348952377&isPopup=true Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'', [[{{Recap/TorchwoodS1E1EverythingChanges}} "Everything Changes"]]

->''All of the higher-ups who said the show was too weird, or that not enough people watched it, or that I was more obsessed with making obscure references than I was with telling stories and, occasionally, jokes -- that was ALL HORSESHIT. I never should have doubted myself.'' '''''And I never will again'''''.
-->--'''Website/{{Cracked}}''' on Creator/SethMacFarlane, ''[[https://www.cracked.com/blog/4-artists-who-should-probably-just-take-break-while_p2/ 4 Artists Who Should Probably Just Take a Break for a While]]''

-->--''LetsPlay/LetsDrownOut'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TydBiQaXm8g&t=26m45s on]] Creator/PeterMolyneux

->"It sounds like the person in charge of this was ''no one'', which is why all the songs are a malformed mess."
-->--'''WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows''' on ''[[Music/VanHalen Van Halen III]]''

->"Listen, sir, I'm going to need you to get all the way off my back."
-->-- '''The Screenwriter's''' CatchPhrase in response to feedback, ''WebVideo/ScreenRantPitchMeetings''

->"Normally by this time in the video, I would have introduced the [[PointyHairedBoss stuffy executive that didn't know the difference between a polygon and a pixel]] bursting into the office [...] and [[ExecutiveMeddling ruining the game]], but that apparently didn't happen with ''[[VideoGame/JurassicParkTrespasser Trespasser]]''. [...] This lack of management is unfortunately something that hurt the project, because sometimes you ''do'' need another experienced set of eyes to take an objective look at [[SkewedPriorities what's not worth slamming your head into over and over]]."
-->-- '''WebVideo/MattMcMuscles''', [[https://youtu.be/bp7PqRMI1HA Trespasser: Jurassic Park - What Happened?]]

--> -- '''[[https://web.archive.org/web/20091016220725/http://crossedgenres.com/archives/001/common-misconceptions-about-editors-by-david-kudler/ "Common Misconceptions About Editors" by David Kudler]]'''

->"No one edits. I edit. I refuse to be edited."
-->--'''Harold Bloom'''

->"There's a lot of rubbish on ''[[Music/TheirSatanicMajestiesRequest Satanic Majesties]]''. Just too much time on our hands, too many drugs, no producer to tell us, 'Enough already, thank you very much, now can we just get on with this song?' Anyone let loose in the studio will produce stuff like that. There was simply too much hanging around. It's like believing everything you do is great and not having any editing."
-->--'''Music/MickJagger''' of Music/{{The Rolling Stones|Band}}

->"The great producer--how did this happen to him? He got so good at keeping the studio away, and getting his way with things, and taking the time he wanted to take, I don’t think he ever got a chance to examine what we were making."
-->--'''Paul Sylbert''', production designer on ''Film/{{Ishtar}}'', on Creator/WarrenBeatty

->''This is my ''Franchise/MetalGear'', and I can destroy it if I want to.''
-->--'''Creator/HideoKojima''' on [[http://www.gamespot.com/articles/the-final-hours-of-metal-gear-solid-2-sons-of-liberty/1100-6376810/ a grumpy day]]

->"Totalitarian? Creator/TheBBC? Seriously? The other day I had to BEG a meeting with [[=BBC1=] controller] Jay Hunt, just so I could explain what we're spending all her money on in ''Series/DoctorWho''. She said it all sounded very nice and sent me off to play.\\\
That's more than creative freedom, that's being turned loose in the wild. Frankly, I'm scared and want someone to tell me what to do. I might even have an epiphany."
--> -- '''Creator/StevenMoffat''' [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/16/tv-writers-support-bbc-drama tells it like it is.]]

->"It's my job to find potential in things that might not on the surface seem to have any, and it is their job to be skeptical and question all ideas to make sure they measure up."
--> -- '''[[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Mark Rosewater]]'''

->"Before the public sees any syndicated cartoons, they're first screened by an editor or two for potential problems. And editors, I'm convinced, have saved my career many times by their decisions ''not'' to publish certain cartoons."
-->--'''[[ComicStrip/TheFarSide Gary Larson]]'''

->"Speaking as a freelancer, some of us have really boneheaded ideas that need to be challenged and changed."
--> -- '''Neall Raemonn Price'''

->"I discovered that editing is really another word for someone ruthlessly tearing apart your work with a big smile, all the while telling you that it will make the book so much better. And it did, though it felt like splinters of hot bamboo being driven into my tender eyeballs."
--> -- '''Creator/ChristopherPaolini''', on the editing of ''[[Literature/InheritanceCycle Eragon]]''

-->--'''Wrestling/JimCornette''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMm0Alg0bvs on]] Wrestling/VinceRusso

->''It's telling that when a filmmaker succeeds in running his own studio, it's because he's learned to let his inner businessman veto his inner artiste. [[Creator/FrancisFordCoppola Coppola]] ran Zoetrope with his heart. It nearly destroyed him. Creator/StevenSpielberg runs Creator/{{DreamWorks|SKG}} with his brain, a decision that leads to much healthier returns on investment.''
--> -- '''Creator/NathanRabin''', [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/my-year-of-flops-case-file-95-one-from-the-heart,10133/ My Year of Flops #95:]] ''Film/OneFromTheHeart''

->"Bob just thought the Antichrist was [[DoingItForTheArt trying to destroy his art.]] They were well-meaning people who wanted him to get what he deserved, which was a big commercial hit. But when it came down to the art or the money, he was with the art."
-->--'''Robert Dornhelm''', on Creator/RobertAltman's insistence on editing his own films

->"When you are young and unsuccessful, you suffer for art's sake. When you are old and successful, art suffers for your sake."
--> -- '''[[http://absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?70434-Why-do-I-keep-doing-this Solatium]]'''

->"Fame-dazzled editors often misplace their scissors at the very moment when authors most need their help."
-->-- '''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers The Daily Telegraph]]''', From a review of the first collection by the young poet Amanda Gorman.

->''It's telling that when a filmmaker succeeds in running his own studio, it's because he's learned to let his inner businessman veto his inner artiste. [[Creator/FrancisFordCoppola Coppola]] ran Zoetrope with his heart. It nearly destroyed him. Creator/StevenSpielberg runs Creator/DreamWorks with his brain, a decision that leads to much healthier returns on investment.''

-->--'''[[http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5386390949828958591&postID=6384766376348952377&isPopup=true Joe Ford]]''' on ''{{Series/Torchwood}}'', [[{{Recap/TorchwoodS1E1EverythingChanges}} "Everything Changes"]]

-->--'''Website/{{Cracked}}''' on Creator/SethMacFarlane, ''[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-artists-who-should-probably-just-take-break-while_p2/ 4 Artists Who Should Probably Just Take a Break for a While]]''

'''Gabriel:''' ''{{VideoGame/Populous}}''!\\
'''Yahtzee:''' But when he was given ''no'' parameters--or near as no parameters as you can get when gaming technology developed--he was making ''{{VideoGame/Fable}}''; and suddenly his role in gaming, which was to make the most of what we had, was obsolete.
-->--''LetsPlay/LetsDrownOut'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TydBiQaXm8g on]] Creator/PeterMolyneux

-->--'''Music/MickJagger''' of Music/TheRollingStones

--> -- '''[[http://crossedgenres.com/archives/001/common-misconceptions-about-editors-by-david-kudler/ "Common Misconceptions About Editors" by David Kudler]]'''

-->--'''Paul Sylbert''', production designer on ''{{Film/Ishtar}}'', on Creator/WarrenBeatty

--> -- '''Creator/NathanRabin''', [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/my-year-of-flops-case-file-95-one-from-the-heart,10133/ My Year Of Flops #95:]] ''Film/OneFromTheHeart''

->'''Jay:''' Well, the difference is that Creator/RolandEmmerich movies [[CriticalDissonance always make money]]. Creator/MNightShyamalan's movies keep ''[[BoxOfficeBomb failing]]'', but he keeps getting work. Maybe he gives [[CastingCouch really good blowjobs.]]\\
'''Mike:''' ''[[ParallelPornTitles The Suck Sense]]''?
-->-- ''[[WebVideo/HalfInTheBag Half in the Bag]]'' on ''[[{{Film/Godzilla1998}} Godzilla]]'' (1998)

--> -- '''Creator/NathanRabin''', [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/my-year-of-flops-case-file-95-one-from-the-heart,10133/ My Year Of Flops #95: One From The Heart]]

->"I'm guessing that was also David Lee Roth's responsibility when he was there. That's why the two versions of the band sounded so different: because the singer dictated the style and the structure. But for ''Van Halen III'', it sounds like the person in charge of this was ''no one'', which is why all the songs are a malformed mess."

->''[[Creator/PaulVerhoven Verhoven]] was confident enough in ''{{Film/Showgirls}}''[=’=] success that he deferred 70% of his $6 million dollar directing fees in exchange for complete creative control and the ability to release the movie with an NC-17 rating. Verhoven would receive the rest of his fee if the movie was a hit… [[BoxOfficeBomb which it was not.]]''

->''Given that his plot ideas for the sequel included gems like ''['=][[WhoShotJFK Spock shoots JFK]][='=]'', perhaps shuffling [[Creator/GeneRoddenberry Roddenberry]] as far from influence as humanly possible was a shrewd decision, as the studio [[GodDoesNotOwnThisWorld pushed him into a generic (and neutered) 'consultant' role.]]''

->"There's a lot of rubbish on ''Satanic Majesties''. Just too much time on our hands, too many drugs, no producer to tell us, 'Enough already, thank you very much, now can we just get on with this song?' Anyone let loose in the studio will produce stuff like that. There was simply too much hanging around. It's like believing everything you do is great and not having any editing."
-->--'''Mick Jagger''' of Music/TheRollingStones

->''I imagine this was largely because Creator/TimBurton ended every conversation with 'F*** you, I’m Tim F***ing Burton]] and I can do whatever I want.[='=]''

-->--'''Website/{{Cracked}}''' on Creator/SethMcfarlane, ''[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-artists-who-should-probably-just-take-break-while_p2/ 4 Artists Who Should Probably Just Take a Break for a While]]''

->"Sometimes I think the ''Franchise/MetalGear'' franchise is like Creator/JimCarrey in ''Film/TheTrumanShow'': It’s this loud wacky dipshit in dire need of an editor who lives in the little world of his own surrounded by people reassuring him that 'No, ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots MGS4]]'' was totally a touching emotional character drama, especially when the funny man did the big poo in his pants'. And every now and again someone tries to parachute in wearing a t-shirt saying [='=]''[[{{Narm}} EVERYONE'S TAKING THE PISS]]''[='=], but get swiftly bundled out of sight by a dogwalker and a {{Creator/Sony}} executive.]]
--> -- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance''

->''Given that his plot ideas for the sequel included gems like ''['=][[WhoShotJFK Spock shoots JFK]][='=]'', perhaps shuffling [[Creator/GeneRiddenberry Roddenberry]] as far from influence as humanly possible was a shrewd decision, as the studio [[GodDoesNotOwnThisWorld pushed him into a generic (and neutered) 'consultant' role.]]''

-> ''Marville'' does not have the stuff that makes for top-selling comics, but it does explore the origin and meaning of life, so I thought it was worth a six-issue series. And, because I’m president of Creator/{{Marvel|Comics}}, [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem I could ignore the bean counters and publish]] ''[[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem Marville]]'' [[ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem without regard for minimum sales projections and margin requirements]].

->Sometimes I think the ''Franchise/MetalGear'' franchise is like Creator/JimCarrey in ''Film/TheTrumanShow'': It’s this loud wacky dipshit in dire need of an editor who lives in the little world of his own surrounded by people reassuring him that “No, ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots MGS4]]'' was totally a touching emotional character drama, especially when the funny man did the big poo in his pants”. And every now and again someone tries to parachute in wearing a t-shirt saying "''[[{{Narm}} EVERYONE'S TAKING THE PISS]]''" but get swiftly bundled out of sight by a dogwalker and [[CashCowFranchise a Sony executive.]]

->Say what you like about big publishers, but at least their drones have demonstrated agreed-professionalism before they can donate their souls to the mothership, whereas the only guarantee with a Website/{{Kickstarter}} project is that lots of people want it.
--> -- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' on ''VideoGame/MightyNo9''

->We know what happens when the [[ExecutiveMeddling publisher shits the bed]], but what about when the ''developer'' earns the displeasure of the hotel chambermaid? When they are given too much development time as opposed to too little? As the publisher comforts themselves with the knowledge that even Creator/StanleyKubrick once took one hundred and seventy takes of the same scene, wilfully ignoring the fact that while Stanley Kubrick was a flighty auteur genius the same behaviour pattern can also be displayed by an incompetent spod with no planning skills and an indirectly proportional ego.
-->-- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''' (again) on Creator/JohnRomero and ''VideoGame/{{Daikatana}}'', and this trope in general.

->Given that his plot ideas for the sequel included gems like ''“Spock shoots JFK”'', perhaps shuffling Roddenberry [[PointyHairedBoss as far from influence as humanly possible]] was a shrewd decision, as the studio pushed him into a generic (and neutered) [[KickedUpstairs “consultant”]] role.

->I imagine this was largely because Creator/TimBurton ended every conversation with 'F*** you, [[AwesomeEgo I’m Tim F***ing Burton]] and I can do whatever I want.'

->I would still like to see [[Creator/DavidLynch Jennifer Lynch]] direct a movie without that terrible screenwriter she always drags along also coincidentially named Jennifer Lynch.

->I remember being quite miffed after watching 90 minutes of generally badly judged television and wondering how Creator/RussellTDavies could have got it so wrong.

->"Hey, I was right. All of the higher-ups who said the show was too weird, or that not enough people watched it, or that I was more obsessed with making obscure references than I was with telling stories and, occasionally, jokes -- that was [[IgnoredEpiphany ALL HORSESHIT]]. I never should have doubted myself. '''''[[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy And I never will again]]'''''."
-->--'''Website/{{Cracked}}''', ''[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-artists-who-should-probably-just-take-break-while_p2/ 4 Artists Who Should Probably Just Take a Break for a While]]''

->If Kojima had his way, Solid Snake would have been over 40, slow, and… 'dandy'. I don’t know if you know what dandy means, but it refers to being fashionable and concerned with appearances. Would he have been the kind of guy who checks himself out in the mirror and combs his hair after a fight? Maybe he’d say stuff like ''Watch the shoes, kid''.
-->--'''Terry Wolf''', [[http://metagearsolid.org/2012/06/part-iii-mgs2-a-complete-breakdown/5/ "The Selfish Meme"]]

->Creator/RussellTDavies is a fine writer when he has limits. ''Series/DoctorWho'' from a story point of view and the way the series is set up meant that he had almost none. Except budgetary. If he writes about reality, he's fine. If he writes about reality plus something weird happening in reality like in ''Series/TheSecondComing'', he's brilliant, though still obviously flawed as fuck. But when he writes about something that can be disconnected entirely from reality, he is fucking awful.
-->--'''WebVideo/DiamandaHagan''' on "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]"

->You know how I said that [Gary] Cherone spat out some lyrics and then Eddie wrote music for it? Well, Sammy says that's not how it worked at all when he was in the band. Yes, Eddie churned out a bunch of riffs and solos and stuff, and they'd be brilliant, and Sammy would write lyrics for him, but Sammy was also the guy who would have to turn the riffs into actual songs, put them in order, add a bridge, decide where the solos went, and so on. I'm guessing that was also David Lee Roth's responsibility when he was there, that's why the two versions of the band sounded so different - because the singer dictated the style and the structure. But for ''Van Halen III'', it sounds like the person in charge of this was ''no one'', which is why all the songs are a malformed mess.

->3) When I'm Famous, I Won't Have to Deal with Editors\\
This doesn't happen often. If you are lucky, it will never happen to you.

->No one edits. I edit. I refuse to be edited.

->This is my ''Franchise/MetalGear'', and I can destroy it if I want to.

->Totalitarian? Creator/TheBBC? Seriously? The other day I had to BEG a meeting with [[=BBC1=] controller] Jay Hunt, just so I could explain what we're spending all her money on in ''Series/DoctorWho''. She said it all sounded very nice and sent me off to play.\\\
That's more than creative freedom, that's being turned loose in the wild. Frankly, I'm scared and want someone to tell me what to do. I might even have an epiphany.

->It's my job to find potential in things that might not on the surface seem to have any, and it is their job to be skeptical and question all ideas to make sure they measure up.

->I have a very good track record when it comes to [[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Magic]] design. I have designed numerous very popular sets. I have designed a lot of successful cards and mechanics. I have probably been responsible for more innovations in ''Magic'' design than any other designer in history. You know one of the worst things R&D could probably do—just let me do whatever I want.
-->-- '''[[http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/125 Mark Rosewater]]'''

->Before the public sees any syndicated cartoons, they're first screened by an editor or two for potential [[DudeNotFunny problems]]. And editors, I'm convinced, have saved my career many times by their decisions ''not'' to publish certain cartoons.

->"Speaking as a freelancer, some of us have really boneheaded ideas that need to be challenged and changed. One writer, for instance, wanted there to be 3,000 Solars, 3,000 Lunars, 1,000 Sidereals and over a million [Dragon-Blooded], all destroyed in the Three Spheres Cataclysm at the end of the Primordial War. The remaining Celestials in Creation wandered around acting like, quote, "Billy Badass," oblivious to the fact that they'd be paste next to the Primordials."\\\
"He needed to be reminded that the name of the game is ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'', not ''You're a Useless Bitch Next to the Yozis''."

->I discovered that editing is really another word for someone ruthlessly tearing apart your work with a big smile, all the while telling you that it will make the book so much better. And it did, though it felt like splinters of hot bamboo being driven into my tender eyeballs.

->Aw, and he was so ''[[SmallNameBigEgo underappreciated.]]'' He wasn't given the ''credit'' that he deserved, that he was ''responsible'' for. Nobody ''recognized'' him. You know what they're 'recognizing' now? What Vince Russo's shit looks like when he didn't have Vince [=McMahon=] standing over him saying, 'You know, [[SturgeonsLaw those twenty-four ideas are real bullshit]], but I'll take ''this'' good one.

->It's telling that when a filmmaker succeeds in running his own studio, it's because he's learned to let his inner businessman veto his inner artiste. [[Creator/FrancisFordCoppola Coppola]] ran Zoetrope with his heart. It nearly destroyed him. Creator/StevenSpielberg runs Creator/DreamWorks with his brain, a decision that leads to much healthier returns on investment.

->Bob just thought the Antichrist was [[DoingItForTheArt trying to destroy his art.]] They were well-meaning people who wanted him to get what he deserved, which was a big commercial hit. But when it came down to the art or the money, he was with the art.

->When you are young and unsuccessful, you suffer for art's sake. When you are old and successful, art suffers for your sake.

-->--'''Chris Sims''' and '''David Uzumeri''' on ''{{Film/Batman}}''

-->--'''WebVideo/DiamandaHagan'' on "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime The End of Time]]"