History Quotes / ProtagonistCenteredMorality

-->---'''JaneAusten''', ''Literature/LoveAndFreindship''

->'''Janeway:''' A long time ago, I made a decision that stranded this crew int he Delta Quadrant. I don't regret that decision.

->''"The ultimate hypocrisy at the heart of the Doctor, which is fun to [[{{Deconstruction}} poke a stick at,]] is that he’s so nasty about soldiers and about people who carry guns, yet look at him -- always in the middle of the fight, usually taking command, and I’m not so impressed at his refusal to pick up a gun when he’s inclined, occasionally, to [[AMillionIsAStatistic blow up entire planets!]] ...I like that he’s the ultimate autocratic liberal -- you know, the fascist liberal. It’s what I love about the RobinHood thing because it reminds us that the Doctor never stops being a nobleman. He’s a high-born nobleman, used to wealth and privilege, who decided to come down among us lot and help out. He thinks he’s one of the guys, but never stops assuming he’s in charge and that people will make him tea. You love the Doctor but you do think, ‘You’re a bit of an arse and you really, really, do think everybody’s here to [[YouGetMCoffee carry stuff for you.]]’ That’s true throughout the Doctors, however ‘[[TheManIsStickingItToTheMan men of the people]]’ they pretend to be. They’re really wonderful men trying to help everybody but the Doctor does, like Robin Hood, expect to be in charge. He doesn’t really tolerate being second in command. He’s helping out the people, so long as he can be the boss person with the best bow and arrow -- and one day that will come back to haunt him.”''

->''"The ultimate hypocrisy at the heart of the Doctor, which is fun to [[{{Deconstruction}} poke a stick at,]] is that he’s so nasty about soldiers and about people who carry guns, yet look at him -- always in the middle of the fight, usually taking command, and I’m not so impressed at his refusal to pick up a gun when he’s inclined, occasionally, to [[AMillionIsAStatistic blow up entire planets!]] ...I like that he’s the ultimate autocratic liberal -- you know, the fascist liberal. It’s what I love about the RobinHood thing because it reminds us that the Doctor never stops being a nobleman. He’s a high-born nobleman, used to wealth and privilege, who decided to come down among us lot and help out. He thinks he’s one of the guys, but never stops assuming he’s in charge and that people will make him tea. You love the Doctor but you do think, ‘You’re a bit of an arse and you really, really, do think everybody’s here to carry stuff for you.’ That’s true throughout the Doctors, however ‘[[TheManIsStickingItToTheMan men of the people]]’ they pretend to be. They’re really wonderful men trying to help everybody but the Doctor does, like Robin Hood, expect to be in charge. He doesn’t really tolerate being second in command. He’s helping out the people, so long as he can be the boss person with the best bow and arrow -- and one day that will come back to haunt him.”''

-->--'''Creator/StevenMoffat''' on [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS34E3RobotOfSherwood}} "Robot of Sherwood"]]

->''"Janeway really has nobody to blame but herself for Seven’s rogue behaviour in this episode...she was the one who insisted they try and re-assert her humanity. Now that [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill isn’t quite working out]] and she is an embarrassment she sends her crew out to stop her by any force necessary. The message here seems to be [[StockAesops act like us or we will destroy you]]. Janeway ''the Furher'' is back in business. Janeway’s other contradiction seems to be that she will try to negotiate with alien species for passage through their space but as soon as those relations break down she [[GunboatDiplomacy throws respect out the window]] and uses force to bully her way through. She’s an odd one, for sure. Sometimes I really admire her flawed behaviour (to err is human after all) and at others I think she is the work of writers who cannot consistently give her any kind of consistent characterisation. ‘You’ve left me choice!’ she barks ‘I don’t have time for this…target their weapons array!’ What a ''nutter''."''

->''"'We can’t pick and choose which laws we’ll respect and which we can’t…’ Pot. Kettle. Black! I cannot believe those words came out Janeway’s mouth who, at the beginning of the last story, told a race warning them to back off that she wouldn’t because [[GunboatDiplomacy they have better firepower!]] I really wish I could get a handle on how this woman thinks; with [[Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine Sisko]] and [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Picard]] it is easy because they work to a set of principles and when they break them it is acknowledged, but with Janeway she seems to chop and change her mind every week as to how she wants to behave. Its not really fair to blame the character, lets blame the writers who fail to portray her consistently."''
-->--'''[[http://www.docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/voyager-season-four.html Doc Oho]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Random Thoughts"

->''"Is it acceptable to [[TheNeedsOfTheMany kill people to save more people?]] The answer, of course, is that it depends on whether [[MoralDissonance it’s the hero doing it or the villain.]]"''
-->-- '''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2013/11/outside-government-reset.html Phil Sandifer]]''' on "[[Series/{{Torchwood}} Reset]]"

->''"Did you ever read Rick Veitch’s ''[[Comicbook/TheQuestion Question]]'' mini that was part of Superstorm? It had a lot of flaws, but there was this great bit where all Metropolis drug deals and stuff took place in bathrooms, since Superman is [[LogicalWeakness too good a guy to ever look]]. It’s like moral lead. This is not that Superman."''

->''"He was a hacker who did any work for hire and stole money from bank accounts, but then accidentally targeted someone powerful who killed his six-year-old niece, which gave him a little ComicBook/SpiderMan moment and he declared that from this day forth he would use his powers to--! ...[[IgnoredEpiphany continue working for hire and stealing money from bank accounts]], but also ''fight crime!'' ...In-between. If he can be arsed. Not stealing-money crime, or property-damage crime, or murdering-policemen crime; just, you know, all the ''bad'' crimes, the ones committed by people ''other'' than himself."''

->''"The ultimate hypocrisy at the heart of the Doctor, which is fun to [[{{Deconstruction}} poke a stick at,]] is that he’s so nasty about soldiers and about people who carry guns, yet look at him -- always in the middle of the fight, usually taking command, and I’m not so impressed at his refusal to pick up a gun when he’s inclined, occasionally, to [[AMillionIsAStatistic blow up entire planets!]] ...I like that he’s the ultimate autocratic liberal -- you know, the fascist liberal. It’s what I love about the Robin Hood thing because it reminds us that the Doctor never stops being a nobleman. He’s a high-born nobleman, used to wealth and privilege, who decided to come down among us lot and help out. He thinks he’s one of the guys, but never stops assuming he’s in charge and that people will make him tea. You love the Doctor but you do think, ‘You’re a bit of an arse and you really, really, do think everybody’s here to carry stuff for you.’ That’s true throughout the Doctors, however ‘[[TheManIsStickingItToTheMan men of the people]]’ they pretend to be. They’re really wonderful men trying to help everybody but the Doctor does, like Robin Hood, expect to be in charge. He doesn’t really tolerate being second in command. He’s helping out the people, so long as he can be the boss person with the best bow and arrow -- and one day that will come back to haunt him.”''
-->--'''Creator/StevenMoffat''' on [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS34E3RobotOfSherwood}} "Robots in Sherwood"]]

-->-- '''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2013/11/outside-government-reset.html Phil Sandifer]]''' on "[[{{Torchwood}} Reset]]"

->''"Did you ever read Rick Veitch’s ''[[TheQuestion Question]]'' mini that was part of Superstorm? It had a lot of flaws, but there was this great bit where all Metropolis drug deals and stuff took place in bathrooms, since Superman is [[LogicalWeakness too good a guy to ever look]]. It’s like moral lead. This is not that Superman."''

-->--'''Creator/StevenMoffat''' on [[{{/Recap/DoctorWhoS34E3RobotOfSherwood}} "Robots in Sherwood"]]

->''"The ultimate hypocrisy at the heart of the Doctor, which is fun to [[{{Deconstruction}} poke a stick at,]] is that he’s so nasty about soldiers and about people who carry guns, yet look at him -- always in the middle of the fight, usually taking command, and I’m not so impressed at his refusal to pick up a gun when he’s inclined, occasionally, to [[AMillionIsAStatistic blow up entire planets!]] ...I like that he’s the ultimate autocratic liberal -- you know, the fascist liberal. It’s what I love about the RobinHood thing because it reminds us that the Doctor never stops being a nobleman. He’s a high-born nobleman, used to wealth and privilege, who decided to come down among us lot and help out. He thinks he’s one of the guys, but never stops assuming he’s in charge and that people will make him tea. You love the Doctor but you do think, ‘You’re a bit of an arse and you really, really, do think everybody’s here to carry stuff for you.’ That’s true throughout the Doctors, however ‘[[TheManIsStickingItToTheMan men of the people]]’ they pretend to be. They’re really wonderful men trying to help everybody but the Doctor does, like Robin Hood, expect to be in charge. He doesn’t really tolerate being second in command. He’s helping out the people, so long as he can be the boss person with the best bow and arrow -- and one day that will come back to haunt him.”''
-->--'''Creator/StevenMoffat'''

->''"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is [[BlackAndWhiteMorality a good guy with a gun.]]"''
-->--NRA Charman '''Wayne [=LaPierre=]'''

->''"He was a hacker who did any work for hire and stole money from bank accounts, but then accidentally targeted someone powerful who killed his six-year-old niece, which gave him a little ComicBook/SpiderMan moment and he declared that from this day forth he would use his powers to--! ...continue working for hire and stealing money from bank accounts, but also ''[[TheyFightCrime fight crime]].'' ...In-between. If he can be arsed. Not stealing-money crime, or property-damage crime, or murdering-policemen crime; just, you know, all the '''bad''' crimes, the ones committed by people ''other'' than himself."''

->''"Ray testifies against Ned and gets him thrown out of the CIA, before [[TakeThisJobAndShoveIt resigning himself]]... Ray uses a small computer to access a “Weekend Warrior” message board, and it would seem he’s been making a living by taking [[HiredGuns gun-for-hire]] jobs over the web. You know, because that’s totally different from killing people for the government. He’ll [[HandWave grumble out an explanation]] for this later, but it’s still dumb."''

->''"They had been married but a few months when our visit to them commenced, during which time they had been amply supported by a considerable sum of Money which Augustus had gracefully purloined from his unworthy father's Escritoire, a few days before his union with Sophia."''
-->---'''JaneAusten''', ''Literature/LoveAndFreindship''

->''"It was so dark when I entered the Coach that I could not distinguish the Number of my Fellow-travellers; I could only perceive that they were Many. Regardless, however, of anything concerning them, I gave myself up to my own sad Reflections. A general silence prevailed -- A silence, which was by nothing interrupted, but by the loud and repeated snores of one of the Party.\\
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"What an illiterate villain must that Man be! (thought I to myself) What a total want of delicate refinement must he have, who can thus shock our senses by such a brutal Noise! He must, I am certain, be capable of every bad action! There is no crime too black for such a Character!" Thus reasoned I within myself, and doubtless such were the reflections of my fellow travellers."''
-->---'''JaneAusten''', ''Literature/LoveAndFreindship''

->''Is it acceptable to [[TheNeedsOfTheMany kill people to save more people?]] The answer, of course, is that it depends on whether [[MoralDissonance it’s the hero doing it or the villain.]]''

->''They had been married but a few months when our visit to them commenced, during which time they had been amply supported by a considerable sum of Money which Augustus had gracefully purloined from his unworthy father's Escritoire, a few days before his union with Sophia.''

->''It was so dark when I entered the Coach that I could not distinguish the Number of my Fellow-travellers; I could only perceive that they were Many. Regardless, however, of anything concerning them, I gave myself up to my own sad Reflections. A general silence prevailed -- A silence, which was by nothing interrupted, but by the loud and repeated snores of one of the Party.\\

"What an illiterate villain must that Man be! (thought I to myself) What a total want of delicate refinement must he have, who can thus shock our senses by such a brutal Noise! He must, I am certain, be capable of every bad action! There is no crime too black for such a Character!" Thus reasoned I within myself, and doubtless such were the reflections of my fellow travellers.''

->''Is it acceptable to kill people to save more people? The answer, of course, is that it depends on whether it’s the hero doing it or the villain.''

->''"At least half of you should be in jail!"''
-->---'''Time Raider''', ''WebVideo/WhyMyLittlePonySucks'',about the Mane Six.

-->-- '''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2013/11/outside-government-reset.html Phil Sandifer]]'' on "[[{{Torchwood}} Reset]]"

->"At least half of you should be in jail!"
-->---'''Time Raider''', ''WebOriginal/WhyMyLittlePonySucks'',about the Mane Six.

-->---'''TimeRaider''', ''WebOriginal/WhyMyLittlePonySucks'',about the Mane Six.

-->''They had been married but a few months when our visit to them commenced, during which time they had been amply supported by a considerable sum of Money which Augustus had gracefully purloined from his unworthy father's Escritoire, a few days before his union with Sophia.''
--->---'''JaneAusten''', ''Literature/LoveAndFreindship''