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-> ''"''Anime/KOn'', but un-unironically. The anti-''K-On'', if you will. I won't, though, I think that's kind of reductive as to what both series accomplish. Kind of like calling ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica]]'' a subversion of the MagicalGirl genre as opposed to a darker interpretation of the same core concepts and themes as most of the classics. ''[[Manga/BocchiTheRock Bocchi]]''[='=]s simply telling a very different story with a much darker sense of humor using most of the same storytelling tools and core themes as ''K-On''.

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-> ''"''Anime/KOn'', ''"''Manga/KOn'', but un-unironically. The anti-''K-On'', if you will. I won't, though, I think that's kind of reductive as to what both series accomplish. Kind of like calling ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica]]'' a subversion of the MagicalGirl genre as opposed to a darker interpretation of the same core concepts and themes as most of the classics. ''[[Manga/BocchiTheRock Bocchi]]''[='=]s simply telling a very different story with a much darker sense of humor using most of the same storytelling tools and core themes as ''K-On''.
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-> ''"''Anime/KOn'', but un-unironically. The anti-''K-On'', if you will. I won't, though, I think that's kind of reductive as to what both series accomplish. Kind of like calling ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica]]'' a subversion of the MagicalGirl genre as opposed to a darker interpretation of the same core concepts and themes as most of the classics. [[Manga/BocchiTheRock Bocchi]]'s simply telling a very different story with a much darker sense of humor using most of the same storytelling tools and core themes as ''K-On''.

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-> ''"''Anime/KOn'', but un-unironically. The anti-''K-On'', if you will. I won't, though, I think that's kind of reductive as to what both series accomplish. Kind of like calling ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica]]'' a subversion of the MagicalGirl genre as opposed to a darker interpretation of the same core concepts and themes as most of the classics. [[Manga/BocchiTheRock Bocchi]]'s ''[[Manga/BocchiTheRock Bocchi]]''[='=]s simply telling a very different story with a much darker sense of humor using most of the same storytelling tools and core themes as ''K-On''.
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-> ''"''Anime/KOn'', but un-unironically. The anti-''K-On'', if you will. I won't, though, I think that's kind of reductive as to what both series accomplish. Kind of like calling ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica]]'' a subversion of the MagicalGirl genre as opposed to a darker interpretation of the same core concepts and themes as most of the classics. [[Manga/BocchiTheRockBocchi]]'s simply telling a very different story with a much darker sense of humor using most of the same storytelling tools and core themes as ''K-On''.

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-> ''"''Anime/KOn'', but un-unironically. The anti-''K-On'', if you will. I won't, though, I think that's kind of reductive as to what both series accomplish. Kind of like calling ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica]]'' a subversion of the MagicalGirl genre as opposed to a darker interpretation of the same core concepts and themes as most of the classics. [[Manga/BocchiTheRockBocchi]]'s [[Manga/BocchiTheRock Bocchi]]'s simply telling a very different story with a much darker sense of humor using most of the same storytelling tools and core themes as ''K-On''.
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-> ''"''Anime/KOn'', but un-unironically. The anti-''K-On'', if you will. I won't, though, I think that's kind of reductive as to what both series accomplish. Kind of like calling ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka Magica]]'' a subversion of the MagicalGirl genre as opposed to a darker interpretation of the same core concepts and themes as most of the classics. [[Manga/BocchiTheRockBocchi]]'s simply telling a very different story with a much darker sense of humor using most of the same storytelling tools and core themes as ''K-On''.
-->-- '''WebVideo/MothersBasement''', reviewing ''Manga/BocchiTheRock''
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-> "[N]ow I really understand why calling ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka [M]agica]]'' a deconstruction really is a disservice to and infantilizes the [[MagicalGirl mahou shoujo]] genre. [I]ts visual expression might be different, but themes of death and dread are common all through the genre."

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-> "[N]ow ''"[N]ow I really understand why calling ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka [M]agica]]'' a deconstruction really is a disservice to and infantilizes the [[MagicalGirl mahou shoujo]] genre. [I]ts visual expression might be different, but themes of death and dread are common all through the genre.""''
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-->-- '''iamalittleboat''', '''Website/{{Crunchyroll}}''', commenting on episode 25 of ''Manga/CardCaptorSakura''

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-->-- '''iamalittleboat''', '''Website/{{Crunchyroll}}''', commenting on episode 25 of ''Manga/CardCaptorSakura''''Manga/CardCaptorSakura''
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-->-- '''WebVideo/{{BeatriceTheGoldenWitch}}''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQfInd0gLA&t Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?]] (video marked as private and is inaccessible)

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-->-- '''WebVideo/{{BeatriceTheGoldenWitch}}''', '''WebVideo/BeatriceTheGoldenWitch''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQfInd0gLA&t com/watch?v=KMH6V5rjuOg&ab_channel=AJ Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?]] (video marked as private and is inaccessible)
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-->-- '''WebVideo/{{Diginee}}''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQfInd0gLA&t Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?]]

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-->-- '''WebVideo/{{Diginee}}''', '''WebVideo/{{BeatriceTheGoldenWitch}}''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQfInd0gLA&t Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?]]
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-->-- '''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQfInd0gLA&t Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?]]

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-->-- '''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}''', '''WebVideo/{{Diginee}}''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQfInd0gLA&t Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?]]
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-->-- '''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQfInd0gLA&t=53s Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?]]

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-->-- '''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQfInd0gLA&t=53s com/watch?v=DUQfInd0gLA&t Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?]]
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-->-- '''Binaroid''', from [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/archived_discussion.php?s_t=Main.RevengeFic Revenge Fic Discussion]]

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-->-- '''Binaroid''', from [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/archived_discussion.php?s_t=Main.RevengeFic Revenge Fic Discussion]]Discussion]]

-> "[N]ow I really understand why calling ''[[Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica Madoka [M]agica]]'' a deconstruction really is a disservice to and infantilizes the [[MagicalGirl mahou shoujo]] genre. [I]ts visual expression might be different, but themes of death and dread are common all through the genre."
-->-- '''iamalittleboat''', '''Website/{{Crunchyroll}}''', commenting on episode 25 of ''Manga/CardCaptorSakura''
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-->-- '''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQfInd0gLA&t=53s Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?]]

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-->-- '''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQfInd0gLA&t=53s Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?]]Tropes?]]

-> ''Of course, a lot of the people who wrote those fics figured "Deconstruct" meant "have your Marty Stu come in and shoot everybody while insulting them."''
-->-- '''Binaroid''', from [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/archived_discussion.php?s_t=Main.RevengeFic Revenge Fic Discussion]]
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-> ''"In today's pop cultural landscape there seems to be this sort of obsession with the ideas of "subversion" and "deconstruction." When a show comes along that does something a little bit different from the LowestCommonDenominator idea of what would be considered normal for its genre, people are quick to praise the innovation that they feel is on display and to herald the crushing of the old tropes. While I can appreciate this excitement over the idea of innovation and challenging storytelling norms, I think that a lot of this overzealous celebration is misguided. And to me it reeks too much of coming from the position of wanting to think that the things you like are somehow smarter, more mature, and more interesting than the stuff that came before, or that is propped up by the mainstream.'"''
-->-- '''WebVideo/{{Digibro}}''', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUQfInd0gLA&t=53s Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?]]

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