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-> ''There is no royal road to science, and only those who do not dread the fatiguing climb of its steep paths have a chance of gaining its luminous summits.''
-->-- ''Preface to the French Edition of Capital: Volume I''

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-> ''The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.''

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-> ''The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.''\\
Working men of all countries, unite!''
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-> ''The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.''
-->-- ''The Communist Manifesto''
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-> ''Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.''

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-> ''Hegel remarks somewhere that [[HistoryRepeats all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice.twice]]. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.''
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-> ''It is the paradox of the U.S.S.R. that, [[{{Irony}} in its death, it provided one of the strongest arguments]] for the analysis of Karl Marx, [[HeroicWannabe which it had claimed to exemplify]]...Rarely has there been a clearer example of Marx's forces of production coming into conflict with the social, institutional and ideological superstructure which had transformed backward agrarian economies into advanced industrial ones -- up to the point where they turn from forces into fetters of production...[[SoWhatDoWeDoNow But what would replace it]]? Here we can no longer follow [[SocietyMarchesOn the nineteenth-century optimism of]] Marx, who argued that the overthrow of the old system must lead to a better one, because "[[HumansAreSpecial mankind always sets itself only such problems as it can solve]]." The problems which "mankind," or rather the Bolsheviks, [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober set themselves in 1917]] were not soluble in the circumstances of their time and place, or only very incompletely soluble. And today it would take a high degree of confidence to argue that in the foreseeable future [[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell a solution is visible for the problems arising out of the collapse of Soviet communism]]...With the collapse of the U.S.S.R the experiment of "really existing socialism" came to an end...[[HopeSpot Will this experiment ever be renewed?]] Clearly not in the form developed in the U.S.S.R., or probably in any form...The failure of revolution elsewhere left the U.S.S.R. committed to build socialism alone, in a country in which, [[CassandraTruth by the universal consensus of Marxists in 1917]], including the Russian ones, the conditions for doing so were simply not present. The attempt to do so produced remarkable achievements -- not least the ability to defeat Germany in [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the Second World War]] -- but [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin at quite enormous and intolerable human cost]], and at the cost of what proved eventually to be [[CommieLand a dead-end economy]] and [[ShootTheShaggyDog a political system for which there was nothing to be said]].''

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-> ''It is the paradox of the U.S.S.R. that, [[{{Irony}} in its death, it provided one of the strongest arguments]] for the analysis of Karl Marx, [[HeroicWannabe which it had claimed to exemplify]]...Rarely has there been a clearer example of Marx's forces of production coming into conflict with the social, institutional and ideological superstructure which had transformed backward agrarian economies into advanced industrial ones -- up to the point where they turn from forces into fetters of production...[[SoWhatDoWeDoNow But what would replace it]]? Here we can no longer follow [[SocietyMarchesOn the nineteenth-century optimism of]] of Marx, who argued that the overthrow of the old system must lead to a better one, because "[[HumansAreSpecial mankind always sets itself only such problems as it can solve]]." The problems which "mankind," or rather the Bolsheviks, [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober set themselves in 1917]] were not soluble in the circumstances of their time and place, or only very incompletely soluble. And today it would take a high degree of confidence to argue that in the foreseeable future [[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell a solution is visible for the problems arising out of the collapse of Soviet communism]]...With the collapse of the U.S.S.R the experiment of "really existing socialism" came to an end...[[HopeSpot Will this experiment ever be renewed?]] Clearly not in the form developed in the U.S.S.R., or probably in any form...The failure of revolution elsewhere left the U.S.S.R. committed to build socialism alone, in a country in which, [[CassandraTruth by the universal consensus of Marxists in 1917]], including the Russian ones, the conditions for doing so were simply not present. The attempt to do so produced remarkable achievements -- not least the ability to defeat Germany in [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the Second World War]] -- but [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin at quite enormous and intolerable human cost]], and at the cost of what proved eventually to be [[CommieLand a dead-end economy]] and [[ShootTheShaggyDog a political system for which there was nothing to be said]].''
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->'''A''': ''[[DisobeyThisMessage De omnibus dubitandum]]'' [doubt everything]

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-> ''It’s possible that [[SophisticatedAsHell I shall make an ass of myself]]. But in that case one can always get out of it with a little dialectic. I have, of course, so worded my proposition as to be right either way.''

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-> ''It’s possible that [[SophisticatedAsHell I shall make an ass of myself]].myself. But in that case one can always get out of it with a little dialectic. I have, of course, so worded my proposition as to be right either way.''
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-> ''Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.''
-->-- ''The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon''
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->'''A''': ''[[AltumVidetur Nihil humani a me alienum puto]]'' [Nothing human is alien to me]

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->''I've never read Marx's Capital, but I've got the marks of capital all over my body.''
-->-- '''Big Bill Haywood'''
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-> ''Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification...The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly [[HoldingOutForAHero the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion]]. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, [[GoldenMeanFallacy the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering]]. Religion is [[GlurgeAddict the sigh of the oppressed creature]], [[HappyEnding the heart of a heartless world]], and [[CrapsaccharineWorld the soul of soulless conditions]]. '''[[LotusEaterMachine It is the opium of the people]]'''. The abolition of religion as [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness]]. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them [[BeliefMakesYouStupid to give up a condition that requires illusions]].''

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-> ''Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification...The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly [[HoldingOutForAHero the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion]]. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, [[GoldenMeanFallacy the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering]].suffering. Religion is [[GlurgeAddict the sigh of the oppressed creature]], [[HappyEnding the heart of a heartless world]], and [[CrapsaccharineWorld the soul of soulless conditions]]. '''[[LotusEaterMachine It is the opium of the people]]'''. The abolition of religion as [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness]]. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them [[BeliefMakesYouStupid [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions to give up a condition that requires illusions]].''
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-> ''It is the paradox of the U.S.S.R. that, [[{{Irony}} in its death, it provided one of the strongest arguments]] for the analysis of Karl Marx, [[HeroicWannabe which it had claimed to exemplify]]...Rarely has there been a clearer example of Marx's forces of production coming into conflict with the social, institutional and ideological superstructure which had transformed backward agrarian economies into advanced industrial ones -- up to the point where they turn from forces into fetters of production...[[SoWhatDoWeDoNow But what would replace it]]? Here we can no longer follow [[SocietyMarchesOn the nineteenth-century optimism of]] Marx, who argued that the overthrow of the old system must lead to a better one, because "[[HumansAreSpecial mankind always sets itself only such problems as it can solve]]." The problems which "mankind," or rather the Bolsheviks, [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober set themselves in 1917]] were not soluble in the circumstances of their time and place, or only very incompletely soluble. And today it would take a high degree of confidence to argue that in the foreseeable future [[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell a solution is visible for the problems arising out of the collapse of Soviet communism]]...With the collapse of the U.S.S.R the experiment of "really existing socialism" came to an end...[[HopeSpot Will this experiment ever be renewed?]] Clearly not in the form developed in the U.S.S.R., or probably in any form...The failure of revolution elsewhere left the U.S.S.R. committed to build socialism alone, in a country in which, [[CassandraTruth by he universal consensus of Marxists in 1917]], including the Russian ones, the conditions for doing so were simply not present. The attempt to do so produced remarkable achievements -- not least the ability to defeat Germany in [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the Second World War]] -- but [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin at quite enormous and intolerable human cost]], and at the cost of what proved eventually to be [[CommieLand a dead-end economy]] and [[ShootTheShaggyDog a political system for which there was nothing to be said]].''

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-> ''It is the paradox of the U.S.S.R. that, [[{{Irony}} in its death, it provided one of the strongest arguments]] for the analysis of Karl Marx, [[HeroicWannabe which it had claimed to exemplify]]...Rarely has there been a clearer example of Marx's forces of production coming into conflict with the social, institutional and ideological superstructure which had transformed backward agrarian economies into advanced industrial ones -- up to the point where they turn from forces into fetters of production...[[SoWhatDoWeDoNow But what would replace it]]? Here we can no longer follow [[SocietyMarchesOn the nineteenth-century optimism of]] Marx, who argued that the overthrow of the old system must lead to a better one, because "[[HumansAreSpecial mankind always sets itself only such problems as it can solve]]." The problems which "mankind," or rather the Bolsheviks, [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober set themselves in 1917]] were not soluble in the circumstances of their time and place, or only very incompletely soluble. And today it would take a high degree of confidence to argue that in the foreseeable future [[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell a solution is visible for the problems arising out of the collapse of Soviet communism]]...With the collapse of the U.S.S.R the experiment of "really existing socialism" came to an end...[[HopeSpot Will this experiment ever be renewed?]] Clearly not in the form developed in the U.S.S.R., or probably in any form...The failure of revolution elsewhere left the U.S.S.R. committed to build socialism alone, in a country in which, [[CassandraTruth by he the universal consensus of Marxists in 1917]], including the Russian ones, the conditions for doing so were simply not present. The attempt to do so produced remarkable achievements -- not least the ability to defeat Germany in [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the Second World War]] -- but [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin at quite enormous and intolerable human cost]], and at the cost of what proved eventually to be [[CommieLand a dead-end economy]] and [[ShootTheShaggyDog a political system for which there was nothing to be said]].''
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-> ''It is the paradox of the U.S.S.R. that, [[{{Irony}} in its death, it provided one of the strongest arguments]] for the analysis of Karl Marx, [[HeroicWannabe which it had claimed to exemplify]]...Rarely has there been a clearer example of Marx's forces of production coming into conflict with the social, institutional and ideological superstructure which had transformed backward agrarian economies into advanced industrial ones -- up to the point where they turn from forces into fetters of production...[[SoWhatDoWeDoNow But what would replace it]]? Here we can no longer follow [[SocietyMarchesOn the nineteenth-century optimism of]] Marx, who argued that the overthrow of the old system must lead to a better one, because "[[HumansAreSpecial mankind always sets itself only such problems as it can solve]]." The problems which "mankind," or rather the Bolsheviks, [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober set themselves in 1917]] were not soluble in the circumstances of their time and place, or only very incompletely soluble. And today it would take a high degree of confidence to argue that in the foreseeable future [[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell a solution is visible for the problems arising out of the collapse of Soviet communism]]...With the collapse of the U.S.S.R the experiment of "really existing socialism" came to an end...[[HopeSpot Will this experiment ever be renewed?]] Clearly not in the form developed in the U.S.S.R., or probably in any form...The failure of revolution elsewhere left the U.S.S.R. committed to build socialism alone, in a country in which, [[CassandraTruth by he universal consensus of Marxists in 1917]], including the Russian ones, the conditions for doing so were simply not present. The attempt to do so produced remarkable achievements -- not least the ability to defeat Germany in [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the Second World War]] -- but [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin at quite enormous and intolerable human cost]], and at the cost of what proved eventually to be [[CommieLand a dead-end economy]] and a political system for which there was nothing to be said.''

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-> ''It is the paradox of the U.S.S.R. that, [[{{Irony}} in its death, it provided one of the strongest arguments]] for the analysis of Karl Marx, [[HeroicWannabe which it had claimed to exemplify]]...Rarely has there been a clearer example of Marx's forces of production coming into conflict with the social, institutional and ideological superstructure which had transformed backward agrarian economies into advanced industrial ones -- up to the point where they turn from forces into fetters of production...[[SoWhatDoWeDoNow But what would replace it]]? Here we can no longer follow [[SocietyMarchesOn the nineteenth-century optimism of]] Marx, who argued that the overthrow of the old system must lead to a better one, because "[[HumansAreSpecial mankind always sets itself only such problems as it can solve]]." The problems which "mankind," or rather the Bolsheviks, [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober set themselves in 1917]] were not soluble in the circumstances of their time and place, or only very incompletely soluble. And today it would take a high degree of confidence to argue that in the foreseeable future [[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell a solution is visible for the problems arising out of the collapse of Soviet communism]]...With the collapse of the U.S.S.R the experiment of "really existing socialism" came to an end...[[HopeSpot Will this experiment ever be renewed?]] Clearly not in the form developed in the U.S.S.R., or probably in any form...The failure of revolution elsewhere left the U.S.S.R. committed to build socialism alone, in a country in which, [[CassandraTruth by he universal consensus of Marxists in 1917]], including the Russian ones, the conditions for doing so were simply not present. The attempt to do so produced remarkable achievements -- not least the ability to defeat Germany in [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the Second World War]] -- but [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin at quite enormous and intolerable human cost]], and at the cost of what proved eventually to be [[CommieLand a dead-end economy]] and [[ShootTheShaggyDog a political system for which there was nothing to be said.said]].''
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-> ''It is the paradox of the U.S.S.R. that, [[{{Irony}] in its death, it provided one of the strongest arguments]] for the analysis of Karl Marx, [[HeroicWannabe which it had claimed to exemplify]]...Rarely has there been a clearer example of Marx's forces of production coming into conflict with the social, institutional and ideological superstructure which had transformed backward agrarian economies into advanced industrial ones -- up to the point where they turn from forces into fetters of production...[[SoWhatDoWeDoNow But what would replace it]]? Here we can no longer follow [[SocietyMarchesOn the nineteenth-century optimism of]] Marx, who argued that the overthrow of the old system must lead to a better one, because "[[HumansAreSpecial mankind always sets itself only such problems as it can solve]]." The problems which "mankind," or rather the Bolsheviks, [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober set themselves in 1917]] were not soluble in the circumstances of their time and place, or only very incompletely soluble. And today it would take a high degree of confidence to argue that in the foreseeable future [[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell a solution is visible for the problems arising out of the collapse of Soviet communism]]...With the collapse of the U.S.S.R the experiment of "really existing socialism" came to an end...[[HopeSpot Will this experiment ever be renewed?]] Clearly not in the form developed in the U.S.S.R., or probably in any form...The failure of revolution elsewhere left the U.S.S.R. committed to build socialism alone, in a country in which, [[CassandraTruth by he universal consensus of Marxists in 1917]], including the Russian ones, the conditions for doing so were simply not present. The attempt to do so produced remarkable achievements -- not least the ability to defeat Germany in [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the Second World War]] -- but [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin at quite enormous and intolerable human cost]], and at the cost of what proved eventually to be [[CommieLand a dead-end economy]] and a political system for which there was nothing to be said.''

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-> ''It is the paradox of the U.S.S.R. that, [[{{Irony}] [[{{Irony}} in its death, it provided one of the strongest arguments]] for the analysis of Karl Marx, [[HeroicWannabe which it had claimed to exemplify]]...Rarely has there been a clearer example of Marx's forces of production coming into conflict with the social, institutional and ideological superstructure which had transformed backward agrarian economies into advanced industrial ones -- up to the point where they turn from forces into fetters of production...[[SoWhatDoWeDoNow But what would replace it]]? Here we can no longer follow [[SocietyMarchesOn the nineteenth-century optimism of]] Marx, who argued that the overthrow of the old system must lead to a better one, because "[[HumansAreSpecial mankind always sets itself only such problems as it can solve]]." The problems which "mankind," or rather the Bolsheviks, [[UsefulNotes/RedOctober set themselves in 1917]] were not soluble in the circumstances of their time and place, or only very incompletely soluble. And today it would take a high degree of confidence to argue that in the foreseeable future [[WhyWeAreBummedCommunismFell a solution is visible for the problems arising out of the collapse of Soviet communism]]...With the collapse of the U.S.S.R the experiment of "really existing socialism" came to an end...[[HopeSpot Will this experiment ever be renewed?]] Clearly not in the form developed in the U.S.S.R., or probably in any form...The failure of revolution elsewhere left the U.S.S.R. committed to build socialism alone, in a country in which, [[CassandraTruth by he universal consensus of Marxists in 1917]], including the Russian ones, the conditions for doing so were simply not present. The attempt to do so produced remarkable achievements -- not least the ability to defeat Germany in [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarII the Second World War]] -- but [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin at quite enormous and intolerable human cost]], and at the cost of what proved eventually to be [[CommieLand a dead-end economy]] and a political system for which there was nothing to be said.''
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-->-- '''Eric Hobsbawm''', ''The Age of Extremes'', pp. 496-498.
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-> ''The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it.''
-->-- ''Theses On Feuerbach''; also engraved on his tomb.
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-> ''A problem which still requires further explanation is why the workers' movement in Germany became increasingly Marxist towards the turn of the century, formulating all its problems and aims in its struggle for emancipation in the language of Marxism, whereas this did not occur at all in the USA, and in England and the rest of Western Europe only in a much more limited form...It was in UsefulNotes/{{Prussia}}, in particular, that this modern class differentiation was so pronounced, and up until 1918 the political struggle of the Social Democrats was mainly directed against surviving feudal institutions. This marked division of classes appeared, however, to confirm socialist class theory even before the class structure of an industrial society had fully developed...Conversely, American industrial workers were probably unreceptive to Marxism because UsefulNotes/TheAmericanRevolution made possible the institutional realisation of equal rights, thus robbing socialism of a good deal of the ideological appeal it had in Germany by holding out the promise of an egalitarian society.''
-->-- '''Hans-Ulrich Wehler''', ''The German Empire 1871-1918''

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-> ''You know, I don’t regard [[UsefulNotes/VladimirLenin Lenin]] [[NoTrueScotsman as part of the Marxist]] tradition, frankly. What [[WordOfSaintPaul the Marxist tradition is]], who knows...Marx [[UnbuiltTrope had a lot of different views]]. For example, he thought it might be possible to reach socialism by parliamentary means in the more bourgeois democratic societies. England was his model, of course, [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure he didn’t rule it out]]. In fact, Marx didn’t have very much to say about socialism or communism. Take a look at Marx’s work. Very deep, analytic critique of a variety of capitalism, capitalist markets, properties, imperialism and so on, [[ShrugOfGod but about the future society]] [[BrieferThanTheyThink a couple of scattered sentences]], and I think, my guess is for good reasons. His picture was, as I understand it, that when working people liberate themselves, and can make their own decisions, [[FigureItOutYourself they will determine what kind of society it will be]]. He is not going to dictate it to them. I think that’s a pretty wise stand frankly.''
-->-- '''Noam Chomsky'''
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-> ''Try to imagine Rousseau, Voltaire, Holbach, Lessing, Heine and Hegel all rolled into one — truly united so as to make a unified whole and you will get an idea of Marx's makeup.''
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-> ''Try to imagine Rousseau, Voltaire, [[Creator/JeanJacquesRousseau Rousseau]], Creator/{{Voltaire}}, Holbach, Lessing, Heine and Hegel [[HeinzHybrid all rolled into one — one]] -— [[NinjaPirateRobotZombie truly united so as to make a unified whole whole]] and you will get an idea of [[TheSmartGuy Marx's makeup.makeup]].''
-->-- ''Moses Hess''
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-> ''It’s possible that [[SophisticatedAsHell I shall make an ass of myself]]. But in that case one can always get out of it with a little dialectic. I have, of course, so worded my proposition as to be right either way.''
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-> ''It’s possible that [[SophisticatedAsHell I shall make an ass of myself]]. But in that case one can always get out of it with a little dialectic. I have, of course, so worded my proposition as to be right either way.''
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-> '''Q''': "Your chief characteristic?"\\
'''A''': ''[[ImplacableMan Singleness of purpose]].''\\
'''Q''': "Your favourite occupation?"\\
'''A''': ''[[{{BookWorm}} Bookworming]]''\\
'''Q''': "The vice you hate most"\\
'''A''': ''[[ExtremeDoormat Servility]]''\\
'''Q''': "The vice you excuse most"\\
'''A''': ''[[HumansAreMorons Gullibility]]''
-> '''Q''': "Your idea of happiness"
-> '''A''': ''[[DareToBeBadass To fight]]''
-> '''Q''': "Your idea of misery"
-> '''A''': ''[[ShockingDefeatLegacy To submit]]''
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->'''Q''': "Your hero"
->'''A''': ''[[IAmSpartacus Spartacus]], [[UsefulNotes/DichterAndDenker Keppler]]''
->'''Q''': "Your heroine"
->'''A''': ''[[Theatre/{{Faust}} Gretchen]]''
->'''Q''': "The poet you like best"
->'''A''': ''Creator/{{Aeschylus}}, [[Creator/WilliamShakespeare Shakespeare]], [[Literature/TheDivineComedy Dante]], [[Creator/JohannWolfgangVonGoethe Goethe]]''
->'''Q''' "The prose writer you like best"
->'''A''': ''[[UsefulNotes/TheEnlightenment Diderot]], [[UsefulNotes/DichterAndDenker Lessing, Hegel]], [[Creator/HonoreDeBalzac Balzac]]''.
->'''Q''': "Your Maxim"
->'''A''': ''[[AltumVidetur Nihil humani a me alienum puto]]'' [Nothing human is alien to me]
->'''Q''': "Your motto"
->'''A''': ''[[DisobeyThisMessage De omnibus dubitandum]]'' [doubt everything]
->'''Q''': "Your favourite colour"
->'''A''': ''[[RedIsHeroic Red]]''
-->-- ''[[https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1865/04/01.htm Karl Marx's Confession]]'', an 1865 Q&A he filled as part of a popular Victorian past-time.
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\n-> ''In short, you can put Marx back into the nineteenth century, but you can’t keep him there. He wasted a ridiculous amount of his time feuding with rivals and putting out sectarian brush fires, and he did not even come close to completing the work he intended as his magnum opus, “Capital.” But, for better or for worse, it just is not the case that his thought is obsolete. He saw that modern free-market economies, left to their own devices, produce gross inequalities, and he transformed a mode of analysis that goes all the way back to Socrates—turning concepts that we think we understand and take for granted inside out—into a resource for grasping the social and economic conditions of our own lives.''
-->-- '''[[http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/karl-marx-yesterday-and-today Louis Menand]]'''
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-> ''Someday the worker must seize political power in order to build up the new organization of labor; he must overthrow the old politics which sustain the old institutions, if he is not to lose Heaven on Earth, like the old Christians who neglected and despised politics.''\\
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''But we have not asserted that the ways to achieve that goal are everywhere the same''.\\
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''You know that the institutions, mores, and traditions of various countries must be taken into consideration, and we do not deny that there are countries -- [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg such as America, England, and if I were more familiar with your institutions, I would perhaps also add Holland]] -- where [[VelvetRevolution the workers can attain their goal by peaceful means]]. This being the case, we must also recognize [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized the fact that in most countries on the Continent the lever of our revolution must be force; it is force to which we must some day appeal in order to erect the rule of labor]].''
-->-- ''[[https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1872/09/08.htm La Liberté Speech]]'' (1872), The Hague, International Workingmen's Association.
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--> ''Karl Marx, lovely geezer, very humane, a bit middle class but we’ll gloss over that, but his big flaw was that when he said “The reins of society will inevitably rest in the hands of those who control the means of production” didn’t take into account middle management. All the people who get between those with the means of production and the society.''

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--> -> ''Karl Marx, lovely geezer, very humane, a bit middle class but we’ll gloss over that, but his big flaw was that when he said “The reins of society will inevitably rest in the hands of those who control the means of production” didn’t take into account middle management. All the people who get between those with the means of production and the society.''
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-->- '''Creator/AlanMoore'''



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-->- -->-- '''Creator/AlanMoore'''


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\n--> ''Karl Marx, lovely geezer, very humane, a bit middle class but we’ll gloss over that, but his big flaw was that when he said “The reins of society will inevitably rest in the hands of those who control the means of production” didn’t take into account middle management. All the people who get between those with the means of production and the society.''
-->- '''Creator/AlanMoore'''


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-> ''Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification...The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly [[HoldingOutForAHero the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion]]. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, [[GoldenMeanFallacy the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering]]. Religion is [[TastesLikeDiabetes the sigh of the oppressed creature]], [[HappyEnding the heart of a heartless world]], and [[CrapsaccharineWorld the soul of soulless conditions]]. '''[[LotusEaterMachine It is the opium of the people]]'''. The abolition of religion as [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness]]. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them [[BeliefMakesYouStupid to give up a condition that requires illusions]].''

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-> ''Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification...The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly [[HoldingOutForAHero the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion]]. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, [[GoldenMeanFallacy the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering]]. Religion is [[TastesLikeDiabetes [[GlurgeAddict the sigh of the oppressed creature]], [[HappyEnding the heart of a heartless world]], and [[CrapsaccharineWorld the soul of soulless conditions]]. '''[[LotusEaterMachine It is the opium of the people]]'''. The abolition of religion as [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness]]. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them [[BeliefMakesYouStupid to give up a condition that requires illusions]].''
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! By Marx:

-> ''It’s possible that [[SophisticatedAsHell I shall make an ass of myself]]. But in that case one can always get out of it with a little dialectic. I have, of course, so worded my proposition as to be right either way.''
-->-- Letter to Friedrich Engels, dated 15 August 1857.

-> ''Men make their own history, but they do not make it as they please; they do not make it under self-selected circumstances, but under circumstances existing already, given and transmitted from the past. The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living.''
-->-- ''The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon''

-> ''Man is the world of man – state, society. This state and this society produce religion, which is an inverted consciousness of the world, because they are an inverted world. Religion is the general theory of this world, its encyclopaedic compendium, its logic in popular form, its spiritual point d’honneur, its enthusiasm, its moral sanction, its solemn complement, and its universal basis of consolation and justification...The struggle against religion is, therefore, indirectly [[HoldingOutForAHero the struggle against that world whose spiritual aroma is religion]]. Religious suffering is, at one and the same time, [[GoldenMeanFallacy the expression of real suffering and a protest against real suffering]]. Religion is [[TastesLikeDiabetes the sigh of the oppressed creature]], [[HappyEnding the heart of a heartless world]], and [[CrapsaccharineWorld the soul of soulless conditions]]. '''[[LotusEaterMachine It is the opium of the people]]'''. The abolition of religion as [[OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness]]. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them [[BeliefMakesYouStupid to give up a condition that requires illusions]].''
-->-- ''A Contribution to the Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right''

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-->-- "Timothy Carey" (the actor) in Creator/JohnCassavetes' ''The Killing of the Chinese Bookie''

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-->-- "Timothy Carey" (the actor) in Creator/JohnCassavetes' ''The Killing of the Chinese Bookie''Bookie''

-> ''Try to imagine Rousseau, Voltaire, Holbach, Lessing, Heine and Hegel all rolled into one — truly united so as to make a unified whole and you will get an idea of Marx's makeup.''
-->-- ''Moses Hess''



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-> ''That jerk Karl Marx said [[BeamMeUpScotty opium was the... religion of people]]. [[RightForTheWrongReasons I got news for him, it's money]]''.
-->-- "Timothy Carey" (the actor) in Creator/JohnCassavetes' ''The Killing of the Chinese Bookie''

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