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->''“[[MargaretThatcher Thatcherism]] was the rodent slowly stirring in my viscera: the uneasy but unbanishable feeling that on some essential matters she might be right.”''
-->--'''ChristopherHitchens''' on TheFalklandsWar
-->--'''ChristopherHitchens''' on TheFalklandsWar
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->''This fight is my king's will. I cannot stop fighting just because I don't agree with him. If we don't pull together under our new king, Daein will fall apart again, just as it did before its liberation.''
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-->--'''Sideshow Bob''', ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' ("Sideshow Bob Roberts")
->''"This fight is my king's will. I cannot stop fighting just because I don't agree with him. If we don't pull together under our new king, Daein will fall apart again, just as it did before its liberation.
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->''"The king will take your daughters from you and force them to cook and bake perfumes for him. He will take away the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his own servants. He will take a tenth of your harvest and distribute it among his officers and attendants. He will want your male and female slaves and demand the finest of your young men and donkeys for his own use. He will demand a tenth of your flocks and you will all be his slaves. When that day comes you will beg for relief from this king you are demanding but the Lord will not help you." But the people refused to listen to Samuel's warning. "Even so we still want a king!" they said. "We want to be like the nations around us. Our king will govern us and lead us into battle."''
-->-- '''Literature/TheBible''' ([[Literature/BooksOfSamuel 1 Samuel]])
->''This fight is my king's will. I cannot stop fighting just because I don't agree with him. If we don't pull together under our new king, Daein will fall apart again, just as it did before its liberation.''
-->-- '''Micaiah''', ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn]]''
->'''King Robert:''' I've got seven kingdoms to rule! One king, seven kingdoms! Do you think honor keeps them in line? Do you think it's honor that's keeping the peace? It's fear. Fear and blood!
-->-- '''Series/GameOfThrones'''
-->-- '''Literature/TheBible''' ([[Literature/BooksOfSamuel 1 Samuel]])
->''This fight is my king's will. I cannot stop fighting just because I don't agree with him. If we don't pull together under our new king, Daein will fall apart again, just as it did before its liberation.''
-->-- '''Micaiah''', ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn]]''
->'''King Robert:''' I've got seven kingdoms to rule! One king, seven kingdoms! Do you think honor keeps them in line? Do you think it's honor that's keeping the peace? It's fear. Fear and blood!
-->-- '''Series/GameOfThrones'''
->''”It cannot be denied that Fascism and similar movements aiming at the establishment of dictatorships are full of the best intentions and that their intervention has, for the moment, saved European civilization."''
-->--'''Ludwig von Mises''' on the ColdWar
-->--'''Ludwig von Mises''' on the ColdWar
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->''"The king will take your daughters from you and force them to cook and bake perfumes for him. He will take away the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his own servants. He will take a tenth of your harvest and distribute it among his officers and attendants. He will want your male and female slaves and demand the finest of your young men and donkeys for his own use. He will demand a tenth of your flocks and you will all be his slaves. When that day comes you will beg for relief from this king you are demanding but the Lord will not help you." But the people refused to listen to Samuel's warning. "Even so we still want a king!" they said. "We want to be like the nations around us. Our king will govern us and lead us into battle."''
-->-- '''Literature/TheBible''' ([[Literature/BooksOfSamuel 1 Samuel]])
->''This fight is my king's will. I cannot stop fighting just because I don't agree with him. If we don't pull together under our new king, Daein will fall apart again, just as it did before its liberation.''
-->-- '''Micaiah''', ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemTellius Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn]]''
->'''King Robert:''' I've got seven kingdoms to rule! One king, seven kingdoms! Do you think honor keeps them in line? Do you think it's honor that's keeping the peace? It's fear. Fear and blood!
-->-- '''Series/GameOfThrones'''
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->''“Probably human cruelty is fixed and eternal. Only styles change.”''
-->--'''Martin Amis''', ''Time's Arrow''
-->--'''Martin Amis''', ''Time's Arrow''
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->''Much of the world today is governed by Caesars. Men are more and more treated as things. Torture is ubiquitous. And, as Sarte wrote in his preface to Henri Alleg's chilling book about Algeria, "Anybody, at any time, may equally find himself victim or executioner."''
-->-- '''Creator/GoreVidal''', ''The Twelve Caesars''
->"Why are we all so keen on death? Could it be that everyone, deep down, shares my belief that the only quick solution for humanity's problems is to is to kill a random sampling of about one half to two third's of the world's population, grind up their meat and then feed it to the remainder?"
-->-- '''Creator/GoreVidal''', ''The Twelve Caesars''
->"Why are we all so keen on death? Could it be that everyone, deep down, shares my belief that the only quick solution for humanity's problems is to is to kill a random sampling of about one half to two third's of the world's population, grind up their meat and then feed it to the remainder?"
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->''The real message isn’t, in other words, that the world is broken by incompetent buffoons in power, but rather that it is held together, desperately and by the skin of its teeth, by complete and raving madmen like Malcolm Tucker. The other characters are [[TheDilbertPrinciple dunces]], but Tucker is [[MaskOfSanity actually completely mad]]. And yet it’s hard to treat this as a particularly pleasurable fantasy. One hardly wants to live in a world run by Malcolm Tucker; it seems scarcely more satisfying or comfortable than one run by idiots. Nevertheless, it’s the then reed of salvation and hope the show offers - that in the face of the right kind of bastard we might somehow all be OK.''
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->''The real message isn’t, in other words, that the world is broken by incompetent buffoons in power, but rather that it is held together, desperately and by the skin of its teeth, by complete and raving madmen like Malcolm Tucker. The other characters are [[TheDilbertPrinciple dunces]], but Tucker is [[MaskOfSanity actually completely mad]]. And yet it’s hard to treat this as a particularly pleasurable fantasy. One hardly wants to live in a world run by Malcolm Tucker; it seems scarcely more satisfying or comfortable than one run by idiots. Nevertheless, it’s the then reed of salvation and hope the show offers - that in the face of [[NecessarilyEvil the right kind of bastard bastard]] we might somehow all be OK.''
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->''"Oh, what a wonderous work is a man! wrote a man."''
-->--'''Creator/GoreVidal''', ''Kalki''
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->''The real message isn’t, in other words, that the world is broken by incompetent buffoons in power, but rather that it is held together, desperately and by the skin of its teeth, by complete and raving madmen like Malcolm Tucker. The other characters are [[TheDilbertPrinciple dunces]], but Tucker is [[MaskOfSanity actually completely mad]]. And yet it’s hard to treat this as a particularly pleasurable fantasy. One hardly wants to live in a world run by Malcolm Tucker; it seems scarcely more satisfying or comfortable than one run by idiots. Nevertheless, it’s the then reed of salvation and hope the show offers - that in the face of the right kind of bastard we might somehow all be OK.''
-->--'''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2014/02/pop-between-realities-home-in-time-for.html Phil Sandifer]]''' on ''Series/TheThickOfIt''
-->--'''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2014/02/pop-between-realities-home-in-time-for.html Phil Sandifer]]''' on ''Series/TheThickOfIt''
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->''Much of the world today is governed by Caesars. Men are more and more treated as things. Torture is ubiquitous. And, as Sarte wrote in his preface to Henri Alleg's chilling book about Algeria, "Anybody, at any time, may equally find himself victim or executioner."''
-->-- ''''Creator/GoreVidal''', ''The Twelve Caesars''
-->-- ''''Creator/GoreVidal''', ''The Twelve Caesars''
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->'''King Robert:''' I've got seven kingdoms to rule! One king, seven kingdoms! Do you think honor keeps them in line? Do you think it's honor that's keeping the peace? It's fear. Fear and blood!
-->-- '''Series/GameOfThrones'''
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-->-- '''YahtzeeCroshaw''', ''Extra Punctuation''
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-->-- '''YahtzeeCroshaw''',
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-->-- '''YahtzeeCrowshaw''', ''Extra Punctuation''
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->"In such condition (of humanity without government), there is no place for Industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain; and consequently no Culture of the Earth; no Navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by Sea; no commodious Building; no Instruments of moving, and removing such things as require much force; no Knowledge of the face of the Earth; no account of Time; no Arts; no Letters; no Society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; And the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."
-->'''Thomas Hobbes''', ''Leviathan or The Matter, Forme and Power of a Common Wealth Ecclesiasticall and Civil'' (1651)
-->'''Thomas Hobbes''', ''Leviathan or The Matter, Forme and Power of a Common Wealth Ecclesiasticall and Civil'' (1651)
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-->-- '''Thomas Hobbes''', ''Leviathan or The Matter, Forme and Power of a Common Wealth Ecclesiasticall and Civil'' (1651)
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-->'''Creator/JosephConrad''', ''The Secret Agent'' (1907)
->"The king will take your daughters from you and force them to cook and bake perfumes for him. He will take away the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his own servants. He will take a tenth of your harvest and distribute it among his officers and attendants. He will want your male and female slaves and demand the finest of your young men and donkeys for his own use. He will demand a tenth of your flocks and you will all be his slaves. When that day comes you will beg for relief from this king you are demanding but the Lord will not help you." But the people refused to listen to Samuel's warning. "Even so we still want a king!" they said. "We want to be like the nations around us. Our king will govern us and lead us into battle."
-->--''[[Literature/BooksOfSamuel 1 Samuel]]''
->"This fight is my king's will. I cannot stop fighting just because I don't agree with him. If we don't pull together under our new king, Daein will fall apart again, just as it did before its liberation."
-->-- Micaiah, ''Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn''
->"The king will take your daughters from you and force them to cook and bake perfumes for him. He will take away the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his own servants. He will take a tenth of your harvest and distribute it among his officers and attendants. He will want your male and female slaves and demand the finest of your young men and donkeys for his own use. He will demand a tenth of your flocks and you will all be his slaves. When that day comes you will beg for relief from this king you are demanding but the Lord will not help you." But the people refused to listen to Samuel's warning. "Even so we still want a king!" they said. "We want to be like the nations around us. Our king will govern us and lead us into battle."
-->--''[[Literature/BooksOfSamuel 1 Samuel]]''
->"This fight is my king's will. I cannot stop fighting just because I don't agree with him. If we don't pull together under our new king, Daein will fall apart again, just as it did before its liberation."
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->''This fight is my king's will. I cannot stop fighting just because I don't agree with him. If we don't pull together under our new king, Daein will fall apart again, just as it did before its liberation.
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->"In such condition (of humanity without government), there is no place for Industry, because the fruit thereof is uncertain; and consequently no Culture of the Earth; no Navigation, nor use of the commodities that may be imported by Sea; no commodious Building; no Instruments of moving, and removing such things as require much force; no Knowledge of the face of the Earth; no account of Time; no Arts; no Letters; no Society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death; And the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short."
-->'''Thomas Hobbes'''m ''Leviathan or The Matter, Forme and Power of a Common Wealth Ecclesiasticall and Civil'' (1651)
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"This fight is my king's will. I cannot stop fighting just because I don't agree with him. If we don't pull together under our new king, Daein will fall apart again, just as it did before its liberation."
-->-- Micaiah, ''Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn''
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Still can\'t find replacement quotes but I\'m moving the wrong ones to Democracy Is Bad anyway
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->''From this view of the subject it may be concluded that a pure democracy, by which I mean a society consisting of a small number of citizens, who assemble and administer the government in person, can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common passion or interest will, in almost every case, be felt by a majority of the whole; a communication and concert result from the form of government itself; and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party or an obnoxious individual. Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.''
-->'''JamesMadison'''
->''Democracy is the theory that the people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.''
-->'''[[HLMencken H. L. Mencken]]'''
-->'''JamesMadison'''
->''Democracy is the theory that the people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.''
-->'''[[HLMencken H. L. Mencken]]'''
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->''"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."''
-->-- '''Sir WinstonChurchill'''
->''Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.''
-->--'''[[HLMencken H. L. Mencken]]'''
-->-- '''Sir WinstonChurchill'''
->''Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.''
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->''"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."''
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->''Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.''
-->--'''[[HLMencken H. L. Mencken]]'''
-->-- '''Sir WinstonChurchill'''
->''Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.''
-->--'''[[HLMencken H. L. Mencken]]'''
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This trope is more about monarchy being the only thing that can control a society more than it is about democracy\'s flaws. I\'m going to move all these quotes to Democracy Is Bad once I find more appropriate ones.
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-->--''[[TheBible 1 Samuel]]''
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-->'''[[HLMencken H. L. Mencken]]'''
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->''Protection is the first necessity of opulence and luxury.''
-->'''JosephConrad''', ''The Secret Agent'' (1907)
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->''Democracy is the theory that the people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.''
-->'''[[HLMencken H. L. Mencken]]'''
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