History Quotes / DeadHorseTrope

-->-- '''Creator/GeorgeEliot''', ''Literature/SillyNovelsByLadyNovelists'''

->''Creator/AdrianBrody is some black ops soldier who is literally dropped into a new planet along with other soldiers and killers... They also have a [[TheUntwist failed plot twist]] with Creator/TopherGrace who plays a humble doctor who is so nice and hasn't killed anyone at all and if you haven't figured out the plot twist by now you haven't seen a movie ever.''

->''"The adults in the family are the {{Sitcom}}... I'd call them 'staples', but at this point, they are the most {{cliche}}d thing in history. Glenn Martin is [[BumblingDad the Dumbass Dad]], and his wife is [[WomenAreWiser the woman too good for him]]. [[LampshadeHanging Get ready, 'cause this mini-rant is going to go on for quite a while.]] [[LongList (inhale)]] [[WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons Homer Simpson]], [[WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy Peter Griffin]], [[WesternAnimation/AmericanDad Stan Smith]], [[WesternAnimation/GoofTroop Goofy]], [[WesternAnimation/FairlyOddParents Mr. Turner]], [[WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom Jack Fenton]], [[WesternAnimation/TheProudFamily Oscar Proud]], [[WesternAnimation/TheAdventuresOfJimmyNeutronBoyGenius Hugh Neutron]], [[WesternAnimation/TheReplacements Dick Daring]], [[WesternAnimation/TheGrimAdventuresOfBillyAndMandy Billy's dad from Billy & Mandy]], [[WesternAnimation/TheAmazingWorldOfGumball Richard from Gumball]], [[WesternAnimation/TheOblongs Bob Oblong]], [[WesternAnimation/TheFlintstones Fred Flintstone]], [[Series/HomeImprovement Tim Taylor]], [[Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond Raymond]], [[Series/MalcolmInTheMiddle Hal]], why am I even going on? Literally every {{sitcom}} and commercial since 1992. This {{cliche}} has been beaten to a pulp, buried into the ground, grown into a poison oak tree, been cut down, and burnt into toxic fumes. Just stop it. There's nothing new you can do with this character type. [[ItsBeenDone Literally everything has been done, by Homer Simpson alone.]] He's done virtually everything you can do with the idiot father {{trope}} three times over. You cannot make it funny anymore! You cannot make it unique anymore! It might not be so bad if it wasn't [[PrecisionFStrike fucking]] everywhere! This isn't a {{sitcom}} 'template', it's a stock and boring {{cliche}}. Yes, I know it was originally meant to [[SubvertedTrope subvert a cliche of]] [[HouseWife the mother]] [[TheDitz being an idiot]] [[MenAreBetterThanWomen and the father]] [[StandardFiftiesFather being down-to-earth]]. I-It doesn't fucking matter anymore. Sorry for that, that one's been boiling up inside me for a while now, just ''please'' stop this {{cliche}}."''

->''The entire crime-writing fraternity yesterday bade a tearful farewell to the last [[LockedRoomMystery "locked room" mystery]] at a large banquet held in its honor. . . . DCI Chymes then gave a glowing eulogy before being interrupted by the shocking news that the 'locked room' concept had been 'murdered' -- and in a locked room.''
-->-- '''''[[Literature/NurseryCrime The Big Over Easy]]''''', Creator/JasperFforde

->"It does not look remarkable different from ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Next Generation]]'', in my opinion. I think it is edited in the same way, the way it’s staged, the direction that they’re allowed to do, how they tell a story, the lighting scheme – a lot of it is very, very redolent of ''Next Generation''… It has not moved on with television. It’s still stuck in a very old groove."
-->-- '''Ron D. Moore''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''

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'''Roy O'Bannon''': Oh, you mean the sick prisoner routine? Does that still work in China? 'Cause here it's sorta been done to death.

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->''Meanwhile, Helena Bonham Carter must have seen Depp wandering around and assumed this was another Tim Burton joint, so she shows up as a brothel madam with [[LegCannon an ivory leg that doubles as a gun]] (when you're seeing exploitation staples in {{Creator/Disney}} movies, you know it's time to retire them).''

->''My theory on the backlash to this film has less to do with the quality of what's on the screen and what it represents; a pre-postmodern America of the pulps and the frontier, an America of ''[[IWantMyJetpack possibility]]'' that's lost to us now. ''John Carter, Warlord of Mars'' is definitely not a postmodern superhero, and can't be revised to postmodernity the way Creator/GuyRitchie's ''[[Film/SherlockHolmes2009 Sherlock Holmes]]'' was.''
-->-- '''[[http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2012/03/pop-culture-has-eaten-itself.html Christopher Loring Knowles]]''' on ''Film/JohnCarter''

->''When ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' wanted to do a gangster episode or a western episode, it used the holodeck as a narrative short cut. The idea of completely imaginary people in a computer simulation was more plausible than a planet full of human-like aliens that had conveniently [[PlanetOfHats arranged their culture around some relic from mankind’s history]]. You could not get away with something like [[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E17APieceOfTheAction}} "A Piece of the Action"]] or [[{{Recap/StarTrekS2E21PatternsOfForce}} "Patterns of Force"]] on any of the later ''Star Trek'' shows. When the third season of ''Enterprise'' attempts to do a “[[SpaceWestern western on an alien planet]]” in "North Star", the entire show seems to creak under suspension of disbelief.''

->''The entire script is based around a single gag that hasn't been funny since the 1950's (and even then, it was bordering on creaky): [[DisguisedInDrag a man disguising himself as a woman]]. But not just any man: a Ferengi. Specifically, Quark. Armin Shimerman, the actor who played Quark, is obviously a talented guy with great comedic timing, but he's no Tony Curtis or Jack Lemmon. And when it comes to putting Shimerman in drag, it's fair to say that some like it. [[FanDisservice Not]].''

->...everything else about [[Film/TheMatrixRevolutions this movie]] was shitty, except for the special effects, which aren't as impressive as they used to be. There's something about seeing "BulletTime" special effects in Lebanese music videos that doesn't make it cool anymore.

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->''"Who killed {{Adventure Game}}s? I think it should be pretty clear at this point that Adventure Games [[SolveTheSoupCans committed suicide]]."''

-->-- '''Wrestling/JimCornette''' on the advantages of[[UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts MMA]] over ProfessionalWrestling , ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8fEFDl7y4Q#t=1300s Corny's Drive-Thru]]''

->''The show was never afraid to go cartoonishly broad with its {{nerd}}s, with their flailing arms and nasally voices, colourful too-short pants held up with suspenders, and black-rimmed glasses taped at the bridge of the nose, as they scuttled off to chess club...Like a gritty Creator/ChristopherNolan reboot of a whole genus, the 21st century Poindexters of ''[[Series/TheBigBangTheory Big Bang Theory]]'' and ''{{Series/Community}}'' are far closer to the twitching robo-savant of ''Film/RainMan'' than the spluttering geeks of old, taking their cue from Creator/MichaelCera rather than ''Series/MrBean''.

->''"Back in the 50's the fan-dancers were hot, right? Now you can see gonzo porn on the internet where 80 guys are fuckin' cumming on some chick's face. So you don't really wanna see [[ProfessionalWrestling the girl hiding behind the fuckin' flower fan]] anymore."''
-->-- '''Wrestling/JimCornette''' on [[UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts MMA]], ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8fEFDl7y4Q#t=1300s Corny's Drive-Thru]]''

->''"So... one of Bond’s big clues is a [[GoingByTheMatchbook matchbook]]? What is this, a Literature/MikeHammer movie? I think that was already a hoary cliché before [[Film/{{Thunderball}} the first time]] Connery made this movie. This also means the main villain actually [[SigilSpam prints up matchbooks with his logo on them]], and hands them out to his evil underlings."''

->''"Meanwhile, Helena Bonham Carter must have seen Depp wandering around and assumed this was another Tim Burton joint, so she shows up as a brothel madam with [[LegCannon an ivory leg that doubles as a gun]] (when you're seeing exploitation staples in Disney movies, you know it's time to retire them). "''

->''"My theory on the backlash to this film has less to do with the quality of what's on the screen and what it represents; a pre-postmodern America of the pulps and the frontier, an America of ''[[IWantMyJetpack possibility]]'' that's lost to us now. ''John Carter, Warlord of Mars'' is definitely not a postmodern superhero, and can't be revised to postmodernity the way Creator/GuyRitchie's ''[[Film/SherlockHolmes2009 Sherlock Holmes]]'' was."''

->''"It’s almost as if, via some complex form of recurved self-awareness, people are so aware of how easy, how bloody easy, it is to put an interesting and novel new spin on [[ZombieApocalypse zombies]], that they then feel disinclined to bother...Of course, the reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally interesting and novel thing to do with zombies would be to JUST LEAVE THEM THE FUCK ALONE. But somehow we, as a culture, seem to have come to the collective conclusion that that would be cheating."''

->''"As a spiritual sequel to ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Angel One]]'', this is a planet of women who are [[StrawFeminist highly sexed and yet completely deadly]] -- I thought we had left this kind of sexist nonsense behind us in [[Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries The Original Series]] but here it is"''

->''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' was so insanely, teeth-grindingly terrible it nearly killed the entire ''Star Trek'' franchise (and {{space opera}}, arguably, as well) forever. Even Creator/JeriRyan in a lycra suit couldn't redeem this atrocity, which took every annoying tic and quirk and cringe-inducing faux pas of every ''Star Trek'' episode ever and built a series around it."''
-->-- '''[[http://secretsunjr.blogspot.com/2010/03/mystery-voyager-theatre.html Christopher Loring Knowles]]'''

->''"When ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' wanted to do a gangster episode or a western episode, it used the holodeck as a narrative short cut. The idea of completely imaginary people in a computer simulation was more plausible than a planet full of human-like aliens that had conveniently [[PlanetOfHats arranged their culture around some relic from mankind’s history]]. You could not get away with something like "A Piece of the Action" or "Patterns of Force" on any of the later ''Star Trek'' shows. When the third season of ''Enterprise'' attempts to do a “[[SpaceWestern western on an alien planet]]” in "North Star", the entire show seems to creak under suspension of disbelief."''

->''"At a certain point, with age, we lose our grip on which ideas are cyclical and which ideas are perpetual and which ideas have died out. {{Music/Madonna}} is just mimicking modes of edginess that worked for her in the past--that were new and important in the past--but what was once progressive nearly always becomes regressive. Because we learn so much all the time. The racial exploitation of ''Sex''-era Madonna was provocative once; [[TheManIsStickingItToTheMan now it's just exploitation.]] So when do we cut our idols loose? When does the Queen of Reinvention run out of raw materials and turn into the, um, Lesser Duchess of Recycling?"''

->''"The entire script is based around a single gag that hasn't been funny since the 1950's (and even then, it was bordering on creaky): [[DisguisedInDrag a man disguising himself as a woman]]. But not just any man: a Ferengi. Specifically, Quark. Armin Shimerman, the actor who played Quark, is obviously a talented guy with great comedic timing, but he's no Tony Curtis or Jack Lemmon. And when it comes to putting Shimerman in drag, it's fair to say that some like it. [[FanDisservice Not]]."''
-->-- '''Website/TheAgonyBooth''' on ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'', "Profit and Lace"

->''"''The Chronicles of Riddick'' is a product of [[TheEighties another age]], and that sealed its doom."''

->''"Right, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger! Or maybe, what doesn't kill you [[{{Metaphorgotten}} is just killing you slowly?]]...The rebuttal to the cliché is, itself, now a cliché. That's how cliché it is."''

->''"The entire crime-writing fraternity yesterday bade a tearful farewell to the last [[LockedRoomMystery "locked room" mystery]] at a large banquet held in it's honor. . . . DCI Chymes then gave a glowing eulogy before being interrupted by the shocking news that the 'locked room' concept had been 'murdered' -- and in a locked room."''

->''"It does not look remarkable different from ''[[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Next Generation]]'', in my opinion. I think it is edited in the same way, the way it’s staged, the direction that they’re allowed to do, how they tell a story, the lighting scheme – a lot of it is very, very redolent of ''Next Generation''… It has not moved on with television. It’s still stuck in a very old groove."''

->''"The show was never afraid to go cartoonishly broad with its {{nerd}}s, with their flailing arms and nasally voices, colourful too-short pants held up with suspenders, and black-rimmed glasses taped at the bridge of the nose, as they scuttled off to chess club...Like a gritty Creator/ChristopherNolan reboot of a whole genus, the 21st century Poindexters of ''[[Series/TheBigBangTheory Big Bang Theory]]'' and ''{{Series/Community}}'' are far closer to the twitching robo-savant of ''Film/RainMan'' than the spluttering geeks of old, taking their cue from Creator/MichaelCera rather than ''Series/MrBean''."''

->''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' was so insanely, teeth-grindingly terrible it nearly killed the entire ''Star Trek'' franchise (and {{space opera}}, arguably, as well) forever. Even Jeri Ryan in a lycra suit couldn't redeem this atrocity, which took every annoying tic and quirk and cringe-inducing faux pas of every ''Star Trek'' episode ever and built a series around it."''

->''"My theory on the backlash to this film has less to do with the quality of what's on the screen and what it represents; a pre-postmodern America of the pulps and the frontier, an America of ''[[IWantMyJetpack possibility]]'' that's lost to us now. ''John Carter, Warlord of Mars'' is definitely not a postmodern superhero, and can't be revised to postmodernity the way Guy Ritchie's ''Film/SherlockHolmes'' was."''

-->--''Film/ShanghaiNoon''

-->--'''Wrestling/JimCornette''' on [[UsefulNotes/MixedMartialArts MMA]], ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8fEFDl7y4Q#t=1300s Corny's Drive-Thru]]''

-->--'''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' on ''Film/NeverSayNeverAgain''

-->--'''[[http://www.hollywoodbitchslap.com/review.php?movie=22565&reviewer=429 Brett Gallman]]''' on ''Film/TheLoneRanger''

-->--'''[[http://secretsun.blogspot.com/2012/03/pop-culture-has-eaten-itself.html Christopher Loring Knowles]]''' on ''Film/JohnCarter''

-->--'''[[http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/say-what-you-like-about-the-zombie-apocalypse-at-least-you-dont-have-to-go-to-work-on-monday-morning/ Jack Graham]]'''

-->--'''[[http://docohobigfinish.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/voyager-season-three.html Joe Ford]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'', "Favorite Son"

-->--'''[[http://secretsunjr.blogspot.com/2010/03/mystery-voyager-theatre.html Christopher Loring Knowles]]'''

-->--'''[[http://them0vieblog.com/2015/04/10/star-trek-enterprise-the-communicator-review/ Darren Mooney]]''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise'', "The Communicator"

-->--'''''Jezebel''''', [[http://jezebel.com/madonna-what-are-you-doing-1510137010 "Madonna, What Are You Doing."]]

-->--'''Creator/JimSterling''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLi63SRxWsk&list=PLHSGoCViRsyr99iAFM8CX4xfmGOyz-DW-&index=15 on]] ''Film/TheChroniclesOfRiddick''

-->--'''[[http://www.oldmanmurray.com/features/79.html Erik Wolpaw]]'''

-->--'''Ron D. Moore''' on ''Series/StarTrekEnterprise''

-->--'''Stuart Millard''' on ''Series/SavedByTheBell'', ''So Excited, So Scared''

-->-- '''''TabletopGames/{{GURPS}} Magical Items 3''''', on TheLittleShopThatWasntThereYesterday

->''"The entire crime-writing fraternity yesterday bade a tearful farewell to the last [[LockedRoomMystery "locked room" mystery]] at a large banquet held in it's honor. . . . DCI Chymes then gave a glowing eulogy before being interrupted by the shocking news that the 'locked room' concept had been 'murdered' -- and in a locked room."''
-->-- '''''[[Literature/NurseryCrime The Big Over Easy]]''''', Creator/JasperFforde

->''"Who killed {{Adventure Game}}s? I think it should be pretty clear at this point that Adventure Games [[SolveTheSoupCans committed suicide]]."''
-->--'''[[http://www.oldmanmurray.com/features/79.html Erik Wolpaw]]'''

->''"''The Chronicles of Riddick'' is a product of [[TheEighties another age]], and that sealed its doom."''
-->--'''Creator/JimSterling''' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLi63SRxWsk&list=PLHSGoCViRsyr99iAFM8CX4xfmGOyz-DW-&index=15 on]] ''Film/TheChroniclesOfRiddick''

->''"The show was never afraid to go cartoonishly broad with its {{nerd}}s, with their flailing arms and nasally voices, colourful too-short pants held up with suspenders, and black-rimmed glasses taped at the bridge of the nose, as they scuttled off to chess club...Like a gritty Creator/ChristopherNolan reboot of a whole genus, the 21st century Poindexters of ''[[Series/TheBigBangTheory Big Bang Theory]]'' and ''{{Series/Community}}'' are far closer to the twitching robo-savant of ''Film/RainMan'' than the spluttering geeks of old, taking their cue from Creator/MichaelCera rather than ''Series/MrBean''."''
-->--'''Stuart Millard''' on ''Series/SavedByTheBell'', ''So Excited, So Scared''

->''"Right, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger! Or maybe, what doesn't kill you [[{{Metaphorgotten}} is just killing you slowly?]]...The rebuttal to the cliché is, itself, now a cliché. That's how cliché it is."''
-->-- '''WebVideo/ToddInTheShadows'''

->''"ZombieApocalypse'' was ''old hat. Now it's a dusty, torn-up section of brim that came off an old hat because the rest of the old hat was eaten by a Stegosaurus."''
-->-- '''Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw''', ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' review of ''The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct''

->''"Meanwhile, Helena Bonham Carter must have seen Depp wandering around and assumed this was another Tim Burton joint, so she show up as a brothel madam with [[LegCannon an ivory leg that doubles as a gun]] (when you're seeing exploitation staples in Disney movies, you know it's time to retire them). "''

->Meanwhile, Helena Bonham Carter must have seen Depp wandering around and assumed this was another Tim Burton joint, so she show up as a brothel madam with [[LegCannon an ivory leg that doubles as a gun]] (when you're seeing exploitation staples in Disney movies, you know it's time to retire them).

-->-- '''''[[NurseryCrime The Big Over Easy]]''''', Creator/JasperFforde

->'''"It’s not bad, certainly -- the story of the Super Nintendo is in part the story of the death of the side-scrolling [[PlatformGame platformer]], but it’s one of those deaths via last golden age, and even the b-list is pretty good. But it does not sparkle."''
-->--'''[[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2015/05/will-you-even-tell-her-if-you-decide-to.html Dr. Phil Sandifer]]''' on ''VideoGame/{{Actraiser}}''

->''"Maybe I'm too cynical these days, but I found myself constantly questioning the film. Why does there always have to be a '[[TheChosenOne chosen one]]'? Why is there always some [[DeusExMachina insanely powerful trinket]] that can do pretty much anything the wearer wants? Why are fantasy lands always ruled by [[TheKingdom a single person?]] And why is that person always either [[EvilOverlord a tyrant]]—with an army of dark-colored creatures that can't talk—or [[TheGoodKing completely benevolent]], causing rainbows and unicorns to appear by his or her mere presence?"''
-->-- '''''Website/TheAgonyBooth''''' on ''The Neverending Story''

->'''"It has a [[AGodIsYou god game]] aspect, but these sections are interspersed between a bog-standard [[PlatformGame side-scrolling platformer]] with [[HitboxDissonance slightly suspect]] jumping and hit detection. It’s not bad, certainly -- the story of the Super Nintendo is in part the story of the death of the side-scrolling platformer, but it’s one of those deaths via last golden age, and even the b-list is pretty good. But it does not sparkle."''

->''"WMaybe I'm too cynical these days, but I found myself constantly questioning the film. Why does there always have to be a '[[TheChosenOne chosen one]]'? Why is there always some [[DeusExMachina insanely powerful trinket]] that can do pretty much anything the wearer wants? Why are fantasy lands always ruled by [[TheKingdom a single person?]] And why is that person always either [[EvilOverlord a tyrant]]—with an army of dark-colored creatures that can't talk—or [[TheGoodKing completely benevolent]], causing rainbows and unicorns to appear by his or her mere presence?"''