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->'''Alan:''' Squiggly Miggly is definitely going to win. President Jimble has no chance.\\
'''Pim:''' You never know, Alan. After all, President UsefulNotes/RossPerot won reelection in 1996 in a major upset.\\
'''Alan:''' Oh, you are so right, Pim. I forgot about that factoid.
-->-- ''WesternAnimation/SmilingFriends''
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->''"It's such a useless exercise," Kirana reflected. "What if this had happened, what if that had happened, what if the [[HordesFromTheEast Golden Horde]] had forced the Gansu Corridor at the start of the [[ForeverWar Long War]], what if the Japanese had attacked China after retaking Japan, what if [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing the Ming]] had kept their treasure fleet, what if [[MiddleEasternCoalition we]] had discovered and conquered [[DifferentStatesOfAmerica Yingzhou]], what if UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat had not died young, on and on, and they all would have made enormous differences and yet it's always entirely useless. These historians who talk about employing counterfactuals to bolster their theories, [[SelfDeprecation they're ridiculous.]] Because no one knows why things happen, you see? Anything could follow from anything. Even real history tells us nothing at all. Because we don't know if history is sensitive, and [[ForWantOfANail for want of a nail]] a civilization was lost, or if our mightiest acts are [[InSpiteOfANail as petals on a flood]], or something in between, or both at once. We just don't know, and the [[WhatIf what-ifs]] don't help us figure it out."''

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->''"It's such a useless exercise," Kirana reflected. "What if this had happened, what if that had happened, what if the [[HordesFromTheEast Golden Horde]] had forced the Gansu Corridor at the start of the [[ForeverWar Long War]], what if the Japanese had attacked China after retaking Japan, what if [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing the Ming]] had kept their treasure fleet, what if [[MiddleEasternCoalition we]] had discovered and conquered [[DifferentStatesOfAmerica Yingzhou]], what if UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat had not died young, on and on, and they all would have made enormous differences and yet it's always entirely useless. These historians who talk about employing counterfactuals to bolster their theories, [[SelfDeprecation they're ridiculous.]] Because no one knows why things happen, you see? Anything could follow from anything. Even real history tells us nothing at all. Because we don't know if history is sensitive, and [[ForWantOfANail for want of a nail]] nail a civilization was lost, or if our mightiest acts are [[InSpiteOfANail as petals on a flood]], or something in between, or both at once. We just don't know, and the [[WhatIf what-ifs]] don't help us figure it out."''
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-->--'''Anon'''[[note]]Though see [[https://books.wwnorton.com/books/detail.aspx?id=8097 this book by economic historian Robert Ransom]][[/note]]

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-->--'''Anon'''[[note]]Though see [[https://books.wwnorton.com/books/detail.aspx?id=8097 [[https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/506300.The_Confederate_States_of_America?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=1nYg9NEeXr&rank=8 this book by economic historian Robert Roger L. Ransom]][[/note]]

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->''One morning they found Harness dead in the armchair in his office. He had laid down his command silently and passed away without causing a stir. When they opened the desk they discovered dozens of alternative futures mapped out on metres and metres of paper and waiting to be processed by computer. Unfortunately the computer had never arrived and was probably lost in time. Night after night the commandant had worked with incredible patience at his desk, holding the paper down with the stump of his arm, sketching out the synchronoptic linear patterns of alternative movements of time in his tiny printed handwriting, determining the significant intersections and plotting points where historically important interventions could have been made. Tiny crosses marked the death of Columbus, of Cortez and Pizarro, of Napoleon, Maximilian of Mexico, and Hitler; the crosses of Lincoln, Kennedy and Martin Luther King had also been carefully marked in, and arrows indicated the battle of the Catalan fields and the battles of Gettysburg, Cannae, Stalingrad, Little Big Horn, Liegnitz, Tours, Poitiers, Guadalquivir, Waterloo and Chikamauga.''
-->-- ''The Last Day of Creation'' by Wolfgang Jeschke
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\n-> ''A story of a city without a gate, of a queen who was not born, of a war which was not fought.''
-->-- '''A Forgotten Chronicle''', ''VideoGame/CultistSimulator''

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->''"Where were you when you heard the Mayans had [[NukeEm The Bomb?]]"''

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->''"Where were you when you heard the Mayans had [[NukeEm The Bomb?]]"''Bomb?"''
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-->-- '''Cecil Gershwin Palmer''', ''Welcome to Night Vale'', "If He Had Lived"



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-->-- '''Cecil Gershwin Palmer''', ''Welcome to Night Vale'', ''Podcast/WelcomeToNightVale'', "If He Had Lived"


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-> "Thank you for joining us on this celebration of Alternate History Week. We’ve heard some exciting ones, like 'What if Germany had Won World War II,' 'What if the South Had Won the Civil War,' 'What if Bath Mats Were Never Invented,' and 'What if--Somehow--Germany had Won the Civil War?'"
-- '''Cecil Gershwin Palmer''', ''Welcome to Night Vale'', "If He Had Lived"



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-> "Thank ''"Thank you for joining us on this celebration of Alternate History Week. We’ve heard some exciting ones, like 'What if Germany had Won World War II,' 'What if the South Had Won the Civil War,' 'What if Bath Mats Were Never Invented,' and 'What if--Somehow--Germany had Won the Civil War?'"
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'''Cecil Gershwin Palmer''', ''Welcome to Night Vale'', "If He Had Lived"


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-> "Thank you for joining us on this celebration of Alternate History Week. We’ve heard some exciting ones, like 'What if Germany had Won World War II,' 'What if the South Had Won the Civil War,' 'What if Bath Mats Were Never Invented,' and 'What if--Somehow--Germany had Won the Civil War?'"
-- '''Cecil Gershwin Palmer''', ''Welcome to Night Vale'', "If He Had Lived"


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->''"The year is 1914. Archduke Franz Ferdinand has just been assassinated, and Europe is on the brink of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI war]]. But put your history books away, [[AlternateTechline this]] [[SteamPunk is]] [[TankGoodness not]] [[HumongousMecha the]] [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld war]] [[BioPunk you]] [[OrganicTechnology remember]]"''.

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->''"The year is 1914. Archduke Franz Ferdinand has just been assassinated, and Europe is on the brink of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI war]]. But put your history books away, [[AlternateTechline this]] [[SteamPunk is]] [[TankGoodness this is not]] [[HumongousMecha the]] [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld war]] the [[BioPunk you]] [[OrganicTechnology remember]]"''.war you remember]]''.
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->"Imagine a world where the future as we know it never happened. Plagued by crime, terrorism, pollution, racial conflict, religious fundamentalism, public apathy, failure of government, an increasing gap between rich and poor, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking science fiction produced by]] Creator/IrwinAllen."

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->"Imagine ->''"Imagine a world where the future as we know it never happened. Plagued by crime, terrorism, pollution, racial conflict, religious fundamentalism, public apathy, failure of government, an increasing gap between rich and poor, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking science fiction produced by]] Creator/IrwinAllen.""''
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->"Imagine a world where the future as we know it never happened. Plagued by crime, terrorism, pollution, racial conflict, religious fundamentalism, public apathy, failure of government, an increasing gap between rich and poor, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking science fiction produced by]] Creator/IrwinAllen."
-->-- '''[=TuMok=]''', ''Fanfic/Plan7Of9FromOuterSpace''
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->'''John Corbeau:''' So, Grand Central is a parallel upon which UsefulNotes/TheRomanEmpire never fell?\\
'''Satyr guard:''' No, your [[SymbolSwearing &%$£-hole]] world is some freak parallel where it '''did'''.
-->--''ComicBook/TopTen''

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->''The first rule of time travel is that any and all modifications made to the timeline result in [[GodwinsLawOfTimeTravel Hitler winning World War II]]. Run over a hippy in 1968? Hitler wins.''

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->''The ->''"The first rule of time travel is that any and all modifications made to the timeline result in [[GodwinsLawOfTimeTravel Hitler winning World War II]]. Run over a hippy in 1968? Hitler wins.''"''



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-->--'''Anon'''
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->''"[[UsefulNotes/AmericanCivilWar ‘What if the white South had won?’]] may well be the most trod-upon terrain in the field of American alternative history. There are novels about it, comic books about it, games about it, and a mockumentary about it. … Storytellers have the right to answer any question they choose. But we do not need to wait to examine all the questions that are not being chosen: [[SlaveLiberation What if John Brown had succeeded]]? What if the [[UsefulNotes/{{Haiti}} Haitian Revolution]] had spread to the rest of the Americas? What if black soldiers had been enlisted at the onset of the Civil War? What if UsefulNotes/NativeAmericans had [[UsefulNotes/ManifestDestiny halted the advance of whites at the Mississippi]]? And we do not need to wait to note that more interesting than asking what the world would be like if the white South had won is asking why so many white people are enthralled with a world where the dreams of UsefulNotes/HarrietTubman are destroyed by the ambitions of Robert E. Lee."''
-->-- '''Creator/TaNehisiCoates''', “[[https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/08/no-confederate/535512/ The Lost Cause Rides Again]]”
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->''[[TakeThatMe "It's such a useless exercise,"]] Kirana reflected. "What if this had happened, what if that had happened, what if the [[HordesFromTheEast Golden Horde]] had forced the Gansu Corridor at the start of the [[ForeverWar Long War]], what if the Japanese had attacked China after retaking Japan, what if [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing the Ming]] had kept their treasure fleet, what if [[MiddleEasternCoalition we]] had discovered and conquered [[DifferentStatesOfAmerica Yingzhou]], what if UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat had not died young, on and on, and they all would have made enormous differences and yet it's always entirely useless. These historians who talk about employing counterfactuals to bolster their theories, they're ridiculous. Because no one knows why things happen, you see? Anything could follow from anything. Even real history tells us nothing at all. Because we don't know if history is sensitive, and [[ForWantOfANail for want of a nail]] a civilization was lost, or if our mightiest acts are [[InSpiteOfANail as petals on a flood]], or something in between, or both at once. We just don't know, and the [[WhatIf what-ifs]] don't help us figure it out."''

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->''[[TakeThatMe "It's ->''"It's such a useless exercise,"]] exercise," Kirana reflected. "What if this had happened, what if that had happened, what if the [[HordesFromTheEast Golden Horde]] had forced the Gansu Corridor at the start of the [[ForeverWar Long War]], what if the Japanese had attacked China after retaking Japan, what if [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing the Ming]] had kept their treasure fleet, what if [[MiddleEasternCoalition we]] had discovered and conquered [[DifferentStatesOfAmerica Yingzhou]], what if UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat had not died young, on and on, and they all would have made enormous differences and yet it's always entirely useless. These historians who talk about employing counterfactuals to bolster their theories, [[SelfDeprecation they're ridiculous. ridiculous.]] Because no one knows why things happen, you see? Anything could follow from anything. Even real history tells us nothing at all. Because we don't know if history is sensitive, and [[ForWantOfANail for want of a nail]] a civilization was lost, or if our mightiest acts are [[InSpiteOfANail as petals on a flood]], or something in between, or both at once. We just don't know, and the [[WhatIf what-ifs]] don't help us figure it out."''
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->''"It's such a useless exercise," Kirana reflected. "What if this had happened, what if that had happened, what if the [[HordesFromTheEast Golden Horde]] had forced the Gansu Corridor at the start of the [[ForeverWar Long War]], what if the Japanese had attacked China after retaking Japan, what if [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing the Ming]] had kept their treasure fleet, what if [[MiddleEasternCoalition we]] had discovered and conquered [[DifferentStatesOfAmerica Yingzhou]], what if UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat had not died young, on and on, and they all would have made enormous differences and yet it's always entirely useless. These historians who talk about employing counterfactuals to bolster their theories, they're ridiculous. Because no one knows why things happen, you see? Anything could follow from anything. Even real history tells us nothing at all. Because we don't know if history is sensitive, and [[ForWantOfANail for want of a nail]] a civilization was lost, or if our mightiest acts are [[InSpiteOfANail as petals on a flood]], or something in between, or both at once. We just don't know, and the [[WhatIf what-ifs]] don't help us figure it out."''

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->''"It's ->''[[TakeThatMe "It's such a useless exercise," exercise,"]] Kirana reflected. "What if this had happened, what if that had happened, what if the [[HordesFromTheEast Golden Horde]] had forced the Gansu Corridor at the start of the [[ForeverWar Long War]], what if the Japanese had attacked China after retaking Japan, what if [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing the Ming]] had kept their treasure fleet, what if [[MiddleEasternCoalition we]] had discovered and conquered [[DifferentStatesOfAmerica Yingzhou]], what if UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat had not died young, on and on, and they all would have made enormous differences and yet it's always entirely useless. These historians who talk about employing counterfactuals to bolster their theories, they're ridiculous. Because no one knows why things happen, you see? Anything could follow from anything. Even real history tells us nothing at all. Because we don't know if history is sensitive, and [[ForWantOfANail for want of a nail]] a civilization was lost, or if our mightiest acts are [[InSpiteOfANail as petals on a flood]], or something in between, or both at once. We just don't know, and the [[WhatIf what-ifs]] don't help us figure it out."''
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->''"It's such a useless exercise," Kirana reflected. "What if this had happened, what if that had happened, what if the [[HordesFromTheEast Golden Horde]] had forced the Gansu Corridor at the start of the [[ForeverWar Long War]], what if the Japanese had attacked China after retaking Japan, what if [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing the Ming]] had kept their treasure fleet, what if [[MiddleEasternCoalition we]] had discovered and conquered [[DifferentStatesOfAmerica Yingzhou]], what if UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat had not died young, on and on, and they all would have made enormous differences and yet it's always entirely useless. These historians who talk about employing counterfactuals to bolster their theories, they're ridiculous. Because no one knows why things happen, you see? Anything could follow from anything. Even real history tells us nothing at all. Because we don't know if history is sensitive, and [[ForWantOfANAil for want of a nail]] a civilization was lost, or if our mightiest acts are [[InSpiteOfANail as petals on a flood]], or something in between, or both at once. We just don't know, and the [[WhatIf what-ifs]] don't help us figure it out."''

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->''"It's such a useless exercise," Kirana reflected. "What if this had happened, what if that had happened, what if the [[HordesFromTheEast Golden Horde]] had forced the Gansu Corridor at the start of the [[ForeverWar Long War]], what if the Japanese had attacked China after retaking Japan, what if [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing the Ming]] had kept their treasure fleet, what if [[MiddleEasternCoalition we]] had discovered and conquered [[DifferentStatesOfAmerica Yingzhou]], what if UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat had not died young, on and on, and they all would have made enormous differences and yet it's always entirely useless. These historians who talk about employing counterfactuals to bolster their theories, they're ridiculous. Because no one knows why things happen, you see? Anything could follow from anything. Even real history tells us nothing at all. Because we don't know if history is sensitive, and [[ForWantOfANAil [[ForWantOfANail for want of a nail]] a civilization was lost, or if our mightiest acts are [[InSpiteOfANail as petals on a flood]], or something in between, or both at once. We just don't know, and the [[WhatIf what-ifs]] don't help us figure it out."''
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-->--'''Eli Cash''', ''TheRoyalTenenbaums''

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-->--'''Eli Cash''', ''TheRoyalTenenbaums''
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->''"It's such a useless exercise," Kirana reflected. "What if this had happened, what if that had happened, what if the [[HordesFromTheEast Golden Horde]] had forced the Gansu Corridor at the start of the [[ForeverWar Long War]], what if the Japanese had attacked China after retaking Japan, what if [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing the Ming]] had kept their treasure fleet, what if [[MiddleEasternCoalition we]] had discovered and conquered [[DifferentStatesOfAmerica Yingzhou]], what if UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat had not died young, on and on, and they all would have made enormous differences and yet it's always entirely useless. These historians who talk about employing counterfactuals to bolster their theories, they're ridiculous. Because no one knows why things happen, you see? Anything could follow from anything. Even real history tells us nothing at all. Because we don't know if history is sensitive, and [[ForWantOfANAil for want of a nail]] a civilization was lost, or if our mightiest acts are [[InSpiteOfANail as petals on a flood]], or something in between, or both at once. We just don't know, and the [[WhatIf what-ifs]] don't help us figure it out."''
->''"Why do people like them so much, then?"''
->''Kirana shurgged, took a drag on her cigarette. "More stories."''
-->--''Literature/TheYearsOfRiceAndSalt'' by Creator/KimStanleyRobinson
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->''"The year is 1914. Archduke Franz Ferdinand has just been assassinated, and Europe is on the brink of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI war]]. But put your history books away, [[AlternateTechline this]] [[SteamPunk is]] [[TankGoodness not]] [[HumongousMecha the]] [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld war]] [[BioPunk you]] [[OrganicTechnology remember]"''].

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->''"The year is 1914. Archduke Franz Ferdinand has just been assassinated, and Europe is on the brink of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI war]]. But put your history books away, [[AlternateTechline this]] [[SteamPunk is]] [[TankGoodness not]] [[HumongousMecha the]] [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld war]] [[BioPunk you]] [[OrganicTechnology remember]"''].remember]]"''.
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->''"Where were you when you heard the Mayans had [[NukeEm The Bomb?]]''

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->''"Where were you when you heard the Mayans had [[NukeEm The Bomb?]]''Bomb?]]"''



->''"The year is 1914. Archduke Franz Ferdinand has just been assassinated, and Europe is on the brink of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI war]]. But put your history books away, [[AlternateTechline this]] [[SteamPunk is]] [[TankGoodness not]] [[HumongousMecha the]] [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld war]] [[BioPunk you]] [[OrganicTechnology remember]].

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->''"The year is 1914. Archduke Franz Ferdinand has just been assassinated, and Europe is on the brink of [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI war]]. But put your history books away, [[AlternateTechline this]] [[SteamPunk is]] [[TankGoodness not]] [[HumongousMecha the]] [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld war]] [[BioPunk you]] [[OrganicTechnology remember]].remember]"''].
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-->--'''Jack Donaghy''', ''30 Rock''

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-->--'''Jack Donaghy''', ''30 Rock''
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->''"The year is 1914. Archduke Franz Ferdinand has just been assassinated, and Europe is on the brink of [[WorldWarI war]]. But put your history books away, [[AlternateTechline this]] [[SteamPunk is]] [[TankGoodness not]] [[HumongousMecha the]] [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld war]] [[BioPunk you]] [[OrganicTechnology remember]].

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->''"The year is 1914. Archduke Franz Ferdinand has just been assassinated, and Europe is on the brink of [[WorldWarI [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI war]]. But put your history books away, [[AlternateTechline this]] [[SteamPunk is]] [[TankGoodness not]] [[HumongousMecha the]] [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld war]] [[BioPunk you]] [[OrganicTechnology remember]].
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->''"The year is 1914. Archduke Franz Ferdinand has just been assassinated, and Europe is on the brink of [[WorldWarI war]]. But put your history books away, [[AlternateTechline this]] [[SteamPunk is]] [[TankGoodness not]] [[HumungousMecha the]] [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld war]] [[BioPunk you]] [[OrganicTechnology remember]].
-->--[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYiw5vkQFPw Trailer]] for ''Literature/Leviathan''

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->''"The year is 1914. Archduke Franz Ferdinand has just been assassinated, and Europe is on the brink of [[WorldWarI war]]. But put your history books away, [[AlternateTechline this]] [[SteamPunk is]] [[TankGoodness not]] [[HumungousMecha [[HumongousMecha the]] [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld war]] [[BioPunk you]] [[OrganicTechnology remember]].
-->--[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYiw5vkQFPw Trailer]] for ''Literature/Leviathan''''Literature/{{Leviathan}}''
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->''"The year is 1914. Archduke Franz Ferdinand has just been assassinated, and Europe is on the brink of [[WorldWarI war]]. But put your history books away, [[AlternateTechline this]] [[SteamPunk is]] [[TankGoodness not]] [[HumungousMecha the]] [[ZeppelinsFromAnotherWorld war]] [[BioPunk you]] [[OrganicTechnology remember]].
-->--[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYiw5vkQFPw Trailer]] for ''Literature/Leviathan''
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-->--colonel_green of [=ScansDaily=]

->''Somehow stories about what the South would do if they won the Civil War don't focus on the potential socio-economic effects of an independent Confederacy, or on how politics and civil rights would evolve in those two nations, or even how the two could come to a amicable peace. It's always about war and slavery.''
-->--A random forum poster reduces AmericanCivilWar AlternateHistory to its base elements

->''"What if the Germans had won the war, Lemon?
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->''Where were you when you heard the Mayans had [[NukeEm The Bomb?]]''

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->''Somehow ->''"Somehow stories about what the South would do if they won the Civil War don't focus on the potential socio-economic effects of an independent Confederacy, or on how politics and civil rights would evolve in those two nations, or even how the two could come to a amicable peace. It's always about war and slavery.''
-->--A random forum poster reduces AmericanCivilWar AlternateHistory to its base elements

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-->--'''Anon'''

->''"Well, everyone knows Custer died at Little Big Horn. What this book presupposes is... maybe he didn't'."''
-->--'''Eli Cash''', ''TheRoyalTenenbaums''

->''"What if the Germans had won the war, Lemon?
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