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* '''Exaggerated''': Wanda seeks to help the entire country of {{Bulungi}}.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Wanda seeks to help the entire country nations of {{Bulungi}}.{{Bulungi}}, {{Qurac}}, the BananaRepublic, {{Wutai}}, and {{Countrystan}}. But ''not'' {{Ruritania}} anytime soon.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Wanda is a BourgeoisBohemian who feels white guilt and decides to "help the disenfranchised". None of what she does is actually helpful, and Bill is not only annoyed at her antics but also offended by hoy InnocentlyInsensitive Wanda is.
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* '''Played For Laughs''': Wanda is a BourgeoisBohemian who feels white guilt and decides to "help the disenfranchised". None of what she does is actually helpful, and Bill is not only annoyed at her antics but also offended by hoy how InnocentlyInsensitive Wanda is.
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** The work is set in UsefulNotes/AntebellumAmerica or during UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust. The situation is really [[NightmareFuel so awful]] for minorities they absolutely depend on a [[EveryoneHasStandards well-intentioned white person]] to help them.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Bill believes that Wanda is being nice because of this trope and accuses her of doing nice things out of guilt. This ends up hurting Wanda's feelings and ruining their relationship.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Wanda is a BourgeoisBohemian who feels white guilt and decides to "help the disenfranchised". None of what she does is actually helpful, and Bill is not only annoyed at her antics but also offended by hoy InnocentlyInsensitive Wanda is.
* '''Played For Laughs''': Wanda is a BourgeoisBohemian who feels white guilt and decides to "help the disenfranchised". None of what she does is actually helpful, and Bill is not only annoyed at her antics but also offended by hoy InnocentlyInsensitive Wanda is.
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* '''Discussed''': ???'''Discussed''':
->'''Bill:''' Sooo... are you helping me because you want to be nice, or because of something racial?\\
'''Wanda:''' What does race have to do with this? I just want to be a good person.
->'''Bill:''' Sooo... are you helping me because you want to be nice, or because of something racial?\\
'''Wanda:''' What does race have to do with this? I just want to be a good person.
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** Wanda opposed segregation during the early 1950s, this was just one of the more short term ways she did so.[[note]] for longer term she provided the [[UsefulNotes/AmericanCourts SCOTUS]] with evidence for [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_v._Board_of_Education Brown v. Board of Education]].[[/note]]
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* '''Downplayed''': [[BlackAndNerdy Bill]] drops his books, and Wanda stops to help him pick them up.
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** [[BlackAndNerdy Bill]] drops his books, and Wanda stops to help him pick themup. up.
** Bill is black but far more emphasis is placed upon him being a [[ShellShockedVeteran homeless veteran.]]
** [[BlackAndNerdy Bill]] drops his books, and Wanda stops to help him pick them
** Bill is black but far more emphasis is placed upon him being a [[ShellShockedVeteran homeless veteran.]]
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** [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Wanda]] sets out to stop Bill from advancing to keep him in his place.
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???"Oh, is your help out of genuine affection... or some kind of guilt?"
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* '''Conversed''': ???
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* '''Conversed''': ???"And now this white girl is gonna lead the black guy to success because, you know, she's ''white''. Is it always like that the black guy can't achieve anything on his own?"
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* '''Defied''':
** Wanda doesn't really ''know'' Bill, or whether he would like help (and if so, how much help is OK versus "too much"), so she gives him her best wishes but doesn't take him under her wing.
** Rather than getting Bulungi outright assimilated into a white culture, [[MightyWhitey Wanda]] only teaches them to adjust to modern life with all technical and scientific wonders, while encouraging the locals to go on with their old cultural and religious ways (well, most of them) and even taking on some of the local traditions herself.
** Wanda doesn't really ''know'' Bill, or whether he would like help (and if so, how much help is OK versus "too much"), so she gives him her best wishes but doesn't take him under her wing.
** Rather than getting Bulungi outright assimilated into a white culture, [[MightyWhitey Wanda]] only teaches them to adjust to modern life with all technical and scientific wonders, while encouraging the locals to go on with their old cultural and religious ways (well, most of them) and even taking on some of the local traditions herself.
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* '''Defied''':
**'''Defied''': Wanda doesn't really ''know'' Bill, or whether he would like help (and if so, how much help is OK versus "too much"), so she gives him her best wishes but doesn't take him under her wing.
** Rather than getting Bulungi outright assimilated into a white culture, [[MightyWhitey Wanda]] only teaches them to adjust to modern life with all technical and scientific wonders, while encouraging the locals to go on with their old cultural and religious ways (well, most of them) and even taking on some of the local traditions herself.wing.
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** Rather than getting Bulungi outright assimilated into a white culture, [[MightyWhitey Wanda]] only teaches them to adjust to modern life with all technical and scientific wonders, while encouraging the locals to go on with their old cultural and religious ways (well, most of them) and even taking on some of the local traditions herself.
* '''Deconstructed''': People of Bulungi don't trust Wanda because they think she might not be as well-meaning as she appears. So they either just ignore her, or worse, start a rebellion to depose their new leaders.
* '''Reconstructed''': Rather than getting Bulungi outright assimilated into a white culture, [[MightyWhitey Wanda]] only teaches them to adjust to modern life with all technical and scientific wonders, while encouraging the locals to go on with their old cultural and religious ways (well, most of them) and even taking on some of the local traditions herself.
* '''Reconstructed''': Rather than getting Bulungi outright assimilated into a white culture, [[MightyWhitey Wanda]] only teaches them to adjust to modern life with all technical and scientific wonders, while encouraging the locals to go on with their old cultural and religious ways (well, most of them) and even taking on some of the local traditions herself.
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** Rather than getting Bulungi outright assimilated into a white culture, [[MightyWhitey Wanda]] only teaches them to adjust to modern life with all technical and scientific wonders, while encouraging the locals to go on with their old ways (well, most of them) and even taking on the local traditions herself.
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** Rather than getting Bulungi outright assimilated into a white culture, [[MightyWhitey Wanda]] only teaches them to adjust to modern life with all technical and scientific wonders, while encouraging the locals to go on with their old cultural and religious ways (well, most of them) and even taking on some of the local traditions herself.
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* '''Inverted''': [[MagicalNegro Bill takes Wanda into his home and helps her achieve her dream of becoming famous.]]
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* '''Inverted''': '''Inverted''':
** [[MagicalNegro Bill takes Wanda into his home and helps her achieve her dream of becoming famous.]]]]
** Wanda finds herself stranded in another peoples' community. Cue GoingNative.
** [[MagicalNegro Bill takes Wanda into his home and helps her achieve her dream of becoming famous.
** Wanda finds herself stranded in another peoples' community. Cue GoingNative.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Some cases of this are due to genuine concern; some are only for ulterior reasons; some are for both...
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** Wanda and Bill's races are never mentioned (as in a piece of literature); the question of what they look like is left up to the audience's imagination.
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** Wanda and Bill's races are never mentioned (as in a piece of literature); the question of [[AmbiguouslyBrown what they they]] [[TheNondescript look like like]] is left up to the audience's imagination.
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* '''Defied''': Wanda doesn't really ''know'' Bill, or whether he would like help (and if so, how much help is OK versus "too much"), so she gives him her best wishes but doesn't take him under her wing.
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* '''Defied''': '''Defied''':
** Wanda doesn't really ''know'' Bill, or whether he would like help (and if so, how much help is OK versus "too much"), so she gives him her best wishes but doesn't take him under herwing. wing.
** Rather than getting Bulungi outright assimilated into a white culture, [[MightyWhitey Wanda]] only teaches them to adjust to modern life with all technical and scientific wonders, while encouraging the locals to go on with their old ways (well, most of them) and even taking on the local traditions herself.
** Wanda doesn't really ''know'' Bill, or whether he would like help (and if so, how much help is OK versus "too much"), so she gives him her best wishes but doesn't take him under her
** Rather than getting Bulungi outright assimilated into a white culture, [[MightyWhitey Wanda]] only teaches them to adjust to modern life with all technical and scientific wonders, while encouraging the locals to go on with their old ways (well, most of them) and even taking on the local traditions herself.
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* '''Straight''': [[HairOfGoldHeartOfGold Alice]] takes [[BlackAndNerdy Bob]] into her BigFancyHouse, and helps him achieve his dream of becoming famous.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice seeks to help the entire country of {{Bulungi}}.
* '''Downplayed''': [[BlackAndNerdy Bob]] drops his books, and Alice stops to help him pick them up.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice seeks to help the entire country of {{Bulungi}}.
* '''Downplayed''': [[BlackAndNerdy Bob]] drops his books, and Alice stops to help him pick them up.
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* '''Straight''': [[HairOfGoldHeartOfGold Alice]] Wanda]] takes [[BlackAndNerdy Bob]] Bill]] into her BigFancyHouse, and helps him achieve his dream of becoming famous.
* '''Exaggerated''':Alice Wanda seeks to help the entire country of {{Bulungi}}.
* '''Downplayed''': [[BlackAndNerdyBob]] Bill]] drops his books, and Alice Wanda stops to help him pick them up.
* '''Exaggerated''':
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** Alice is a teacher at an InnerCitySchool; getting through to students and helping them succeed in life is her job.
** Alice is well-connected and really ''does'' have the resources to help Bob, who happens to be her friend regardless of race.
* '''Inverted''': [[MagicalNegro Bob takes Alice into his home and helps her achieve her dream of becoming famous.]]
** Alice is well-connected and really ''does'' have the resources to help Bob, who happens to be her friend regardless of race.
* '''Inverted''': [[MagicalNegro Bob takes Alice into his home and helps her achieve her dream of becoming famous.]]
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** Alice Wanda is a teacher at an InnerCitySchool; getting through to students and helping them succeed in life is her job.
**Alice Wanda is well-connected and really ''does'' have the resources to help Bob, Bill, who happens to be her friend regardless of race.
* '''Inverted''': [[MagicalNegroBob Bill takes Alice Wanda into his home and helps her achieve her dream of becoming famous.]]
**
* '''Inverted''': [[MagicalNegro
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** Bob tells Alice, [[StopHelpingMe "Thanks, but no thanks."]]
** Alice's motives are not pure at all; she's doing this as part of an AssimilationPlot or something.
** Alice passes Bob's resume along to her contacts, but the rest is all his doing.
** Alice is non-white, or not wealthy.
** Alice's motives are not pure at all; she's doing this as part of an AssimilationPlot or something.
** Alice passes Bob's resume along to her contacts, but the rest is all his doing.
** Alice is non-white, or not wealthy.
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** Bob Bill tells Alice, [[StopHelpingMe Wanda, [[UnwantedAssistance "Thanks, but no thanks."]]
**Alice's Wanda's motives are not pure at all; she's doing this as part of an AssimilationPlot or something.
**Alice Wanda passes Bob's Bill's resume along to her contacts, but the rest is all his doing.
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** Then he decides he could use Alice's help anyway, and contacts her again.
** But Bob doesn't know that.
** She did not ask Bob if she could do that.
** But Bob doesn't know that.
** She did not ask Bob if she could do that.
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** Then he decides he could use Alice's Wanda's help anyway, and contacts her again.
** ButBob Bill doesn't know that.
** She did not askBob Bill if she could do that.
** But
** She did not ask
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** Alice teaches Bob basic skills, such as how to use a spoon.
** Bob is actually a StarfishAlien.
** Bob is actually a StarfishAlien.
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** Alice Wanda teaches Bob Bill basic skills, such as how to use a spoon.
**Bob Bill is actually a StarfishAlien.
**
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** Alice doesn't help Bob, for any reason.
** Alice and Bob's races are never mentioned (as in a piece of literature); the question of what AliceAndBob look like is left up to the audience's imagination.
** Alice and Bob's races are never mentioned (as in a piece of literature); the question of what AliceAndBob look like is left up to the audience's imagination.
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** Alice Wanda doesn't help Bob, Bill, for any reason.
**Alice Wanda and Bob's Bill's races are never mentioned (as in a piece of literature); the question of what AliceAndBob they look like is left up to the audience's imagination.
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** Alice meets Bob, and he seems really [[StarvingArtist down on his luck]], and Alice feels bad for him.
** Bob poses as poor and ignorant to help Alice learn to use her advantaged situation to improve the lot of others.
* '''Exploited''': Alice is sent as a missionary to {{Bulungi}} to give them access to clean water and food...and also convert them to the church of CrystalDragonJesus.
* '''Defied''': Alice doesn't really ''know'' Bob, or whether he would like help (and if so, how much help is OK versus "too much"), so she gives him her best wishes but doesn't take him under her wing.
** Bob poses as poor and ignorant to help Alice learn to use her advantaged situation to improve the lot of others.
* '''Exploited''': Alice is sent as a missionary to {{Bulungi}} to give them access to clean water and food...and also convert them to the church of CrystalDragonJesus.
* '''Defied''': Alice doesn't really ''know'' Bob, or whether he would like help (and if so, how much help is OK versus "too much"), so she gives him her best wishes but doesn't take him under her wing.
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** Alice Wanda meets Bob, Bill, and he seems really [[StarvingArtist down on his luck]], and Alice Wanda feels bad for him.
**Bob Bill poses as poor and ignorant to help Alice Wanda learn to use her advantaged situation to improve the lot of others.
* '''Exploited''':Alice Wanda is sent as a missionary to {{Bulungi}} to give them access to clean water and food...and also convert them to the church of CrystalDragonJesus.
* '''Defied''':Alice Wanda doesn't really ''know'' Bob, Bill, or whether he would like help (and if so, how much help is OK versus "too much"), so she gives him her best wishes but doesn't take him under her wing.
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* '''Averted''': Alice doesn't help Bob, for any reason.
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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
** Alice doesn't help Bob, for any reason.
** Alice doesn't help Bob, for any reason.
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** Alice and Bob's races are never mentioned (as in a piece of literature); the question of what AliceAndBob look like is left up to the audience's imagination.
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* '''Inverted''': Bob takes Alice into his home and helps her achieve her dream of becoming famous.
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* '''Inverted''': [[MagicalNegro Bob takes Alice into his home and helps her achieve her dream of becoming famous.
** MagicalNegrofamous.]]
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** Alice is non-white, or not wealthy.
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** But she is privileged in some other way, shape, or form.
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** Bob poses as poor and ignorant to help Alice learn to use her advantaged situation to improve the lot of others.
** Bob poses as poor and ignorant to help Alice learn to use her advantaged situation to improve the lot of others.
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** Bob poses as poor and ignorant to help Alice learn to use her advantaged situation to improve the lot of others.Zagged''': ???
** Bob poses as poor and ignorant to help Alice learn to use her advantaged situation to improve the lot of others.
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* '''Invoked''': Alice meets Bob, and he seems really [[StarvingArtist down on his luck]], and Alice feels bad for him.
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* '''Invoked''': '''Invoked''':
** Alice meets Bob, and he seems really [[StarvingArtist down on his luck]], and Alice feels bad forhim. him.
** Bob poses as poor and ignorant to help Alice learn to use her advantaged situation to improve the lot of others.
** Alice meets Bob, and he seems really [[StarvingArtist down on his luck]], and Alice feels bad for
** Bob poses as poor and ignorant to help Alice learn to use her advantaged situation to improve the lot of others.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Zagged''':
** Bob poses as poor and ignorant to help Alice learn to use her advantaged situation to improve the lot of others.
** Bob poses as poor and ignorant to help Alice learn to use her advantaged situation to improve the lot of others.
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* '''Basic Trope''': A white character sets out to help improve the lives of a (usually racial) minority.
* '''Straight''': [[HairOfGold Alice]] takes [[BlackAndNerdy Bob]] into her BigFancyHouse, and helps him achieve his dream of becoming famous.
* '''Straight''': [[HairOfGold Alice]] takes [[BlackAndNerdy Bob]] into her BigFancyHouse, and helps him achieve his dream of becoming famous.
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* '''Straight''':
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* '''Justified''': Alice is a teacher at an InnerCitySchool; getting through to students and helping them succeed in life is her job.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** Alice is a teacher at an InnerCitySchool; getting through to students and helping them succeed in life is her job.
** Alice is a teacher at an InnerCitySchool; getting through to students and helping them succeed in life is her job.
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* '''Subverted''': Bob tells Alice, [[StopHelpingMe "Thanks, but no thanks."]]
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Bob tells Alice, [[StopHelpingMe "Thanks, but no thanks."]]
** Bob tells Alice, [[StopHelpingMe "Thanks, but no thanks."]]
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* '''Double Subverted''': Then he decides he could use Alice's help anyway, and contacts her again.
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* '''Double Subverted''': Subverted''':
** Then he decides he could use Alice's help anyway, and contacts her again.
** Then he decides he could use Alice's help anyway, and contacts her again.
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* '''Parodied''': Alice teaches Bob basic skills, such as how to use a spoon.
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* '''Parodied''': '''Parodied''':
** Alice teaches Bob basic skills, such as how to use a spoon.
** Alice teaches Bob basic skills, such as how to use a spoon.
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*'''Basic Trope''': A white character sets out to help improve the lives of a (usually racial) minority.
*'''Straight''': [[HairOfGold Alice]] takes [[BlackAndNerdy Bob]] into her BigFancyHouse, and helps him achieve his dream of becoming famous.
*'''Exaggerated''': Alice seeks to help the entire country of {{Bulungi}}.
*'''Downplayed''': [[BlackAndNerdy Bob]] drops his books, and Alice stops to help him pick them up.
*'''Justified''': Alice is a teacher at an InnerCitySchool; getting through to students and helping them succeed in life is her job.
** Alice is well-connected and really ''does'' have the resources to help Bob, who happens to be her friend regardless of race.
*'''Inverted''': Bob takes Alice into his home and helps her achieve her dream of becoming famous.
*'''Subverted''': Bob tells Alice, [[StopHelpingMe "Thanks, but no thanks."]]
** Alice's motives are not pure at all; she's doing this as part of an AssimilationPlot or something.
** Alice passes Bob's resume along to her contacts, but the rest is all his doing.
*'''Double Subverted''': Then he decides he could use Alice's help anyway, and contacts her again.
** But Bob doesn't know that.
** She did not ask Bob if she could do that.
*'''Parodied''': Alice teaches Bob basic skills, such as how to use a spoon.
** Bob is actually a StarfishAlien.
*'''Zig Zagged''': ???
*'''Averted''': Alice doesn't help Bob, for any reason.
*'''Enforced''': [[{{Glurge}} "Let's make our story more inspirational!"]]
*'''Lampshaded''': ???
*'''Invoked''': Alice meets Bob, and he seems really [[StarvingArtist down on his luck]], and Alice feels bad for him.
*'''Exploited''': Alice is sent as a missionary to {{Bulungi}} to give them access to clean water and food...and also convert them to the church of CrystalDragonJesus.
*'''Defied''': Alice doesn't really ''know'' Bob, or whether he would like help (and if so, how much help is OK versus "too much"), so she gives him her best wishes but doesn't take him under her wing.
*'''Discussed''': ???
*'''Conversed''': ???
*'''Straight''': [[HairOfGold Alice]] takes [[BlackAndNerdy Bob]] into her BigFancyHouse, and helps him achieve his dream of becoming famous.
*'''Exaggerated''': Alice seeks to help the entire country of {{Bulungi}}.
*'''Downplayed''': [[BlackAndNerdy Bob]] drops his books, and Alice stops to help him pick them up.
*'''Justified''': Alice is a teacher at an InnerCitySchool; getting through to students and helping them succeed in life is her job.
** Alice is well-connected and really ''does'' have the resources to help Bob, who happens to be her friend regardless of race.
*'''Inverted''': Bob takes Alice into his home and helps her achieve her dream of becoming famous.
*'''Subverted''': Bob tells Alice, [[StopHelpingMe "Thanks, but no thanks."]]
** Alice's motives are not pure at all; she's doing this as part of an AssimilationPlot or something.
** Alice passes Bob's resume along to her contacts, but the rest is all his doing.
*'''Double Subverted''': Then he decides he could use Alice's help anyway, and contacts her again.
** But Bob doesn't know that.
** She did not ask Bob if she could do that.
*'''Parodied''': Alice teaches Bob basic skills, such as how to use a spoon.
** Bob is actually a StarfishAlien.
*'''Zig Zagged''': ???
*'''Averted''': Alice doesn't help Bob, for any reason.
*'''Enforced''': [[{{Glurge}} "Let's make our story more inspirational!"]]
*'''Lampshaded''': ???
*'''Invoked''': Alice meets Bob, and he seems really [[StarvingArtist down on his luck]], and Alice feels bad for him.
*'''Exploited''': Alice is sent as a missionary to {{Bulungi}} to give them access to clean water and food...and also convert them to the church of CrystalDragonJesus.
*'''Defied''': Alice doesn't really ''know'' Bob, or whether he would like help (and if so, how much help is OK versus "too much"), so she gives him her best wishes but doesn't take him under her wing.
*'''Discussed''': ???
*'''Conversed''': ???
