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** Alice and Bob become depressed, believing themselves to be failures as parents. They eventually [[DrivenToSuicide take their own lives out of guilt.]]
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** Alice and Bob become depressed, believing themselves to be failures as parents. They eventually [[DrivenToSuicide take their own lives out of guilt.]]guilt]].
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** Alice and Bob outlive their adopted son, Ben.
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* '''Implied''': Alice and Bob are [[RaisedByGrandparents raising their grandson, John.]] Ben is nowhere to be seen.
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* '''Implied''': Alice and Bob are [[RaisedByGrandparents raising their grandson, John.]] John]]. Ben is nowhere to be seen.
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** Ben was murdered or killed-in-action during his military duty.
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** Ben was murdered or killed-in-action murdered.
** Ben serves in the Military, and got KIA duringhis military duty.the wartime.
** Ben serves in the Military, and got KIA during
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** Ben was murdered.
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** Ben was murdered.murdered or killed-in-action during his military duty.
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** Ben is StuffedIntoTheFridge by a villain who wants to spite Bob.
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** Ben is StuffedIntoTheFridge killed off by a villain [[TargetedToHurtTheHero who wants to spite Bob.Bob]].
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** Alice and Bob had [[MassiveNumberedSiblings 12 children]], and outlived them all -- even their youngest, who lived to the age of 75, which is not young.
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** Alice and Bob had [[MassiveNumberedSiblings 12 children]], and outlived them all -- even their youngest, who lived to the age of 75, which is not young.75
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** Alice and Bob were AbusiveParents.
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* '''Inverted''': Ben outlives his parents.
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* '''Inverted''': Ben's parents died when Ben outlives his parents.was a child
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* '''Averted''': Ben and his parents are all alive throughout the story.
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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
** Ben outlives his parents.
** Ben and his parents are all alive throughout the story.
** Ben outlives his parents.
** Ben and his parents are all alive throughout the story.
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** Alice and Bob's son, Ben, is ReallySevenHundredYearsOld. However, they somehow ''still'' outlive him.
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** Alice and Bob outlive their ''adopted'' son, Ben.
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** Alice and Bob outlive their ''adopted'' adopted son, Ben.
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** Alice is 90 years old when her 70 year old son Ben dies.
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* '''Straight''': Alice and Bob outlive their son, Ben.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice and Bob outlive their grandchildren.
** Alice and Bob had 12 children, and outlived them all -- Even their youngest, who lived to the age of 75.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice died a few years ago, while Bob and Ben are both critically ill and on their death beds. Ben succumbs to his illness mere moments before Bob.
** Alice and Bob outlive their ''adopted'' son, Ben.
** Ben is outlived by his mother, but not his father. (Or vice versa)
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice and Bob outlive their grandchildren.
** Alice and Bob had 12 children, and outlived them all -- Even their youngest, who lived to the age of 75.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice died a few years ago, while Bob and Ben are both critically ill and on their death beds. Ben succumbs to his illness mere moments before Bob.
** Alice and Bob outlive their ''adopted'' son, Ben.
** Ben is outlived by his mother, but not his father. (Or vice versa)
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* '''Straight''': AliceAndBob outlive their son, Ben.
* '''Exaggerated''':
** Alice and Bob outlive theirson, Ben.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice and Bob outlive their grandchildren.
grandchildren.
** Alice and Bob had [[MassiveNumberedSiblings 12children, children]], and outlived them all -- Even even their youngest, who lived to the age of 75.
75, which is not young.
*'''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** Alice died a few years ago, while Bob and Ben are both critically ill and on theirdeath beds. deathbeds. Ben succumbs to his illness mere moments before Bob.
Bob.
** Alice and Bob outlive their ''adopted'' son,Ben.
Ben.
**Ben is outlived by his Ben's mother, but not his father. (Or father, survives him (or vice versa) versa).
* '''Exaggerated''':
** Alice and Bob outlive their
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice and Bob outlive their grandchildren.
** Alice and Bob had [[MassiveNumberedSiblings 12
*
** Alice died a few years ago, while Bob and Ben are both critically ill and on their
** Alice and Bob outlive their ''adopted'' son,
**
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** Ben died of disease, or had cancer.
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** Ben died of disease, or had cancer.disease.
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** Ben dies again after he is resurrected, and Bob is still alive at the same time.
* '''Parodied''': Alice breaks one of her dolls, and wails melodramatically about losing her child, even holding a mock-funeral service for Teddy.
* '''Zig-Zagged''': Alice and Bob's son Ben is apparently killed during an accident while on a trip abroad, but he returns alive and well a few months after he is declared dead. Alice and Bob are overjoyed, until he finds out that this "Ben" is an impostor trying to gain inheritance. The one who tipped him off turns out to be the real Ben, but he's a ghost, and disappears for good shortly after a brief reunion with his father.
* '''Averted''': Ben and his parents are both alive throughout the story.
* '''Enforced''': It's a {{biopic}} of either Ben or Bob.
* '''Parodied''': Alice breaks one of her dolls, and wails melodramatically about losing her child, even holding a mock-funeral service for Teddy.
* '''Zig-Zagged''': Alice and Bob's son Ben is apparently killed during an accident while on a trip abroad, but he returns alive and well a few months after he is declared dead. Alice and Bob are overjoyed, until he finds out that this "Ben" is an impostor trying to gain inheritance. The one who tipped him off turns out to be the real Ben, but he's a ghost, and disappears for good shortly after a brief reunion with his father.
* '''Averted''': Ben and his parents are both alive throughout the story.
* '''Enforced''': It's a {{biopic}} of either Ben or Bob.
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** Ben dies again after he is resurrected, and Bob is and Alice are still alive at the same time.
* '''Parodied''': Alice breaks one of her dolls, and wails melodramatically about losing her child, even holding a mock-funeral service forTeddy.
Teddy.
* '''Zig-Zagged''': Alice and Bob's son Ben is apparently killed during an accident while on a trip abroad, but he returns alive and well a few months after he is declared dead. Alice and Bob are overjoyed, untilhe finds they find out that this "Ben" is an impostor trying to gain inheritance. The one who tipped him them off turns out to be the real Ben, but he's a ghost, and disappears for good shortly after a brief reunion with his father.
parents.
* '''Averted''': Ben and his parents areboth all alive throughout the story.
* '''Enforced''': It's a {{biopic}} of eitherBen Alice, Ben, or Bob.
* '''Parodied''': Alice breaks one of her dolls, and wails melodramatically about losing her child, even holding a mock-funeral service for
* '''Zig-Zagged''': Alice and Bob's son Ben is apparently killed during an accident while on a trip abroad, but he returns alive and well a few months after he is declared dead. Alice and Bob are overjoyed, until
* '''Averted''': Ben and his parents are
* '''Enforced''': It's a {{biopic}} of either
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* '''Implied''': Alice and Bob' are [[RaisedByGrandparents raising their grandson, John.]] Ben is nowhere to be seen.
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* '''Implied''': Alice and Bob' Bob are [[RaisedByGrandparents raising their grandson, John.]] Ben is nowhere to be seen.
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* '''Conversed''': "Did you hear that Ben died yesterday?" [[BigWhat "WHAT??]] Aren't his parents still alive?!"
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice and Bob's poor parenting skills were the proximate cause of Ben's early death.
** Alice and Bob become depressed, believing themselves to be failures as parents. They eventually [[DrivenToSuicide take their own lives out of guilt.]]
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice and Bob's poor parenting skills were the proximate cause of Ben's early death.
** Alice and Bob become depressed, believing themselves to be failures as parents. They eventually [[DrivenToSuicide take their own lives out of guilt.]]
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* '''Conversed''': "Did you hear that Ben died yesterday?" [[BigWhat "WHAT??]] "[[BigWhat WHAT??]] Aren't his parents still alive?!"
*'''Deconstructed''': '''Deconstructed''':
** Alice and Bob's poor parenting skills were the proximate cause of Ben's earlydeath.
death.
** Alice and Bob become depressed, believing themselves to be failures as parents. They eventually [[DrivenToSuicide take their own lives out of guilt.]] ]]
*
** Alice and Bob's poor parenting skills were the proximate cause of Ben's early
** Alice and Bob become depressed, believing themselves to be failures as parents. They eventually [[DrivenToSuicide take their own lives out of guilt.
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* '''Played for Drama''': Bob could have saved Ben but didn't, which he regards as MyGreatestFailure.
** Ben had children before his death, so his parents have to go through the trouble of [[RaisedByGrandparents raising his children while attempting to console them over their father's abrupt death.]]
** Ben had children before his death, so his parents have to go through the trouble of [[RaisedByGrandparents raising his children while attempting to console them over their father's abrupt death.]]
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* '''Played for Drama''': Drama''':
** Bob could have saved Ben but didn't, which he regards asMyGreatestFailure.
MyGreatestFailure.
** Ben had children before his death, so his parents have to go through the trouble of [[RaisedByGrandparents raising his children while attempting to console them over their father's abrupt death.]] ]]
** Bob could have saved Ben but didn't, which he regards as
** Ben had children before his death, so his parents have to go through the trouble of [[RaisedByGrandparents raising his children while attempting to console them over their father's abrupt death.
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* '''Straight''': Bob outlives his son, Ben.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob outlives all his children, and even his grandchildren.
* '''Downplayed''': Bob dies moments after Ben does.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob outlives all his children, and even his grandchildren.
* '''Downplayed''': Bob dies moments after Ben does.
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* '''Straight''': Alice and Bob outlives his outlive their son, Ben.
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice and Boboutlives all his outlive their grandchildren.
** Alice and Bob had 12 children, andeven his grandchildren.
outlived them all -- Even their youngest, who lived to the age of 75.
* '''Downplayed''': Alice died a few years ago, while Bobdies and Ben are both critically ill and on their death beds. Ben succumbs to his illness mere moments after before Bob.
** Alice and Bob outlive their ''adopted'' son, Ben.
** Bendoes.is outlived by his mother, but not his father. (Or vice versa)
* '''Exaggerated''': Alice and Bob
** Alice and Bob had 12 children, and
* '''Downplayed''': Alice died a few years ago, while Bob
** Alice and Bob outlive their ''adopted'' son, Ben.
** Ben
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** Ben died of disease.
** Ben was killed.
** Bob is LongLived, possibly even being TheAgeless, while Ben had a normal lifespan.
* '''Inverted''': Ben outlives his father.
** Ben was killed.
** Bob is LongLived, possibly even being TheAgeless, while Ben had a normal lifespan.
* '''Inverted''': Ben outlives his father.
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** Ben died of disease.
disease, or had cancer.
** Ben waskilled.
murdered.
** Alice and Bobis are LongLived, possibly even being TheAgeless, while Ben had a normal lifespan.
lifespan.
** Ben was stillborn.
** Alice and Bob were AbusiveParents.
* '''Inverted''': Ben outlives hisfather.parents.
** Ben was
** Alice and Bob
** Ben was stillborn.
** Alice and Bob were AbusiveParents.
* '''Inverted''': Ben outlives his
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* '''Zig-Zagged''': Bob's son Ben is apparently killed during an accident while on a trip abroad, but he returns alive and well a few months after he is declared dead. Bob is overjoyed, until he finds out that this "Ben" is an impostor trying to gain inheritance. The one who tipped him off turns out to be the real Ben, but he's a ghost, and disappears for good shortly after a brief reunion with his father.
* '''Averted''': Bob and Ben are both alive throughout the story.
* '''Averted''': Bob and Ben are both alive throughout the story.
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* '''Zig-Zagged''': Alice and Bob's son Ben is apparently killed during an accident while on a trip abroad, but he returns alive and well a few months after he is declared dead. Alice and Bob is are overjoyed, until he finds out that this "Ben" is an impostor trying to gain inheritance. The one who tipped him off turns out to be the real Ben, but he's a ghost, and disappears for good shortly after a brief reunion with his father.
* '''Averted''':Bob Ben and Ben his parents are both alive throughout the story.
* '''Averted''':
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* '''Implied''': Bob lives with his grandson, John, while his son, Ben, is nowhere to be seen.
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob's poor parenting skills were the proximate cause of Ben's early death.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob learns from his mistakes with Ben and successfully raises Adam.
* '''Played for Laughs''': ???
* '''Played for Drama''': Bob could have saved Ben but didn't, which he regards as MyGreatestFailure.
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': Bob's poor parenting skills were the proximate cause of Ben's early death.
* '''Reconstructed''': Bob learns from his mistakes with Ben and successfully raises Adam.
* '''Played for Laughs''': ???
* '''Played for Drama''': Bob could have saved Ben but didn't, which he regards as MyGreatestFailure.
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* '''Implied''': Bob lives with his Alice and Bob' are [[RaisedByGrandparents raising their grandson, John, while his son, Ben, John.]] Ben is nowhere to be seen.
*'''Discussed''': ???
'''Discussed''':
* '''Conversed''':???
"Did you hear that Ben died yesterday?" [[BigWhat "WHAT??]] Aren't his parents still alive?!"
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice and Bob's poor parenting skills were the proximate cause of Ben's earlydeath.
death.
** Alice and Bob become depressed, believing themselves to be failures as parents. They eventually [[DrivenToSuicide take their own lives out of guilt.]]
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice and Boblearns learn from his their mistakes with Ben and successfully raises raise another child, Adam.
* '''Played for Laughs''':???
[[BlackComedy Alice and Bob outliving their children becomes a]] RunningGag, as their children keep dying in humorous ways, and they get increasingly frustrated.
* '''Played for Drama''': Bob could have saved Ben but didn't, which he regards as MyGreatestFailure.
** Ben had children before his death, so his parents have to go through the trouble of [[RaisedByGrandparents raising his children while attempting to console them over their father's abrupt death.]]
*
* '''Conversed''':
* '''Deconstructed''': Alice and Bob's poor parenting skills were the proximate cause of Ben's early
** Alice and Bob become depressed, believing themselves to be failures as parents. They eventually [[DrivenToSuicide take their own lives out of guilt.]]
* '''Reconstructed''': Alice and Bob
* '''Played for Laughs''':
* '''Played for Drama''': Bob could have saved Ben but didn't, which he regards as MyGreatestFailure.
** Ben had children before his death, so his parents have to go through the trouble of [[RaisedByGrandparents raising his children while attempting to console them over their father's abrupt death.]]
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'''Basic Trope''': A parent survives longer than their child does.
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'''Basic Trope''': A parent survives longer than is alive at the time their child does.dies.
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** Bob is LongLived, possibly even being TheAgeless, Ben had a normal lifespan.
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** Bob is LongLived, possibly even being TheAgeless, while Ben had a normal lifespan.
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* '''Double Subverted''': But the returned Ben is an impostor.
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* '''Double Subverted''': Subverted''':
** But the returned Ben is animpostor.impostor.
** Ben dies again after he is resurrected, and Bob is still alive at the same time.
** But the returned Ben is an
** Ben dies again after he is resurrected, and Bob is still alive at the same time.
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* '''Zig-Zagged''': Bob's son Ben is apparently killed during an accident while on a trip abroad, but he returns alive and well a few months after he is declared dead. Bob is overjoyed, until he finds out that this "Ben" is an impostor trying to gain inheritance. The one who tipped him of turns out to be the real Ben, but he's a ghost, and disappears for good shortly after a brief reunion with his father.
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* '''Zig-Zagged''': Bob's son Ben is apparently killed during an accident while on a trip abroad, but he returns alive and well a few months after he is declared dead. Bob is overjoyed, until he finds out that this "Ben" is an impostor trying to gain inheritance. The one who tipped him of off turns out to be the real Ben, but he's a ghost, and disappears for good shortly after a brief reunion with his father.
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* '''Defied''': Bob fears outliving his son, so he raises Ben to stay as healthy as possible.
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* '''Defied''': Bob fears outliving his son, so he raises Ben to stay as healthy healthy, competent, and safe as possible.
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* '''Deconstructed''': ???
* '''Reconstructed''': ???
* '''Reconstructed''': ???
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* '''Deconstructed''': ???
Bob's poor parenting skills were the proximate cause of Ben's early death.
* '''Reconstructed''':???Bob learns from his mistakes with Ben and successfully raises Adam.
* '''Reconstructed''':
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob's son Ben is apparently killed during an accident while on a trip abroad, but he returns alive and well a few months after he is declared dead. Bob is overjoyed, until he finds out that this "Ben" is an impostor trying to gain inheritance. The one who tipped him of turns out to be the real Ben, but he's actually a ghost, and disappears for good shortly after a brief reunion with his father.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': '''Zig-Zagged''': Bob's son Ben is apparently killed during an accident while on a trip abroad, but he returns alive and well a few months after he is declared dead. Bob is overjoyed, until he finds out that this "Ben" is an impostor trying to gain inheritance. The one who tipped him of turns out to be the real Ben, but he's actually a ghost, and disappears for good shortly after a brief reunion with his father.
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* '''Enforced''': ???
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* '''Enforced''': ???It's a {{biopic}} of either Ben or Bob.
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* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Implied''': Bob lives with his grandson, John, while his son, Ben, is nowhere to be seen at all.
* '''Implied''': Bob lives with his grandson, John, while his son, Ben, is nowhere to be seen at all.
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* '''Exploited''': ???
Charlie tries to [[ReplacementGoldfish replace Ben in Bob's eyes]].
* '''Implied''': Bob lives with his grandson, John, while his son, Ben, is nowhere to beseen at all.seen.
* '''Implied''': Bob lives with his grandson, John, while his son, Ben, is nowhere to be
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* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
* '''Played For Drama''': ???
* '''Played For Drama''': ???
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* '''Played For for Laughs''': ???
* '''PlayedFor for Drama''': ???Bob could have saved Ben but didn't, which he regards as MyGreatestFailure.
* '''Played
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Back to OutlivingOnesOffspring.OutlivingOnesOffspring.
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** Bob is LongLived, possibly even being TheUnaging, Ben had a normal lifespan.
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** Bob is LongLived, possibly even being TheUnaging, TheAgeless, Ben had a normal lifespan.
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* '''Downplayed''':
** Bob dies moments after Ben does.
** Ben [[DeathIsCheap doesn't stay dead]] (maybe even coming back after only a few hours tops).
** Bob dies moments after Ben does.
** Ben [[DeathIsCheap doesn't stay dead]] (maybe even coming back after only a few hours tops).
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* '''Downplayed''':
**'''Downplayed''': Bob dies moments after Ben does.
** Ben [[DeathIsCheap doesn't stay dead]] (maybe even coming back after only a few hours tops).does.
**
** Ben [[DeathIsCheap doesn't stay dead]] (maybe even coming back after only a few hours tops).
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* '''Subverted''': Ben turns out to be alive.
* '''Double Subverted''': But then he dies.
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Double Subverted''': But then he dies.
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
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* '''Subverted''': Ben turns out to be alive.
alive, or is resurrected moments after his death.
* '''Double Subverted''': Butthen he dies.
the returned Ben is an impostor.
* '''Parodied''':???
Alice breaks one of her dolls, and wails melodramatically about losing her child, even holding a mock-funeral service for Teddy.
* '''Zig Zagged''':???Bob's son Ben is apparently killed during an accident while on a trip abroad, but he returns alive and well a few months after he is declared dead. Bob is overjoyed, until he finds out that this "Ben" is an impostor trying to gain inheritance. The one who tipped him of turns out to be the real Ben, but he's actually a ghost, and disappears for good shortly after a brief reunion with his father.
* '''Double Subverted''': But
* '''Parodied''':
* '''Zig Zagged''':
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** The child [[DeathIsCheap doesn't stay dead]] (maybe even coming back that very day).
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** The child Ben [[DeathIsCheap doesn't stay dead]] (maybe even coming back that very day).after only a few hours tops).
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* '''Downplayed''': Bob dies moments after Ben does.
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* '''Downplayed''': '''Downplayed''':
** Bob dies moments after Bendoes.does.
** The child [[DeathIsCheap doesn't stay dead]] (maybe even coming back that very day).
** Bob dies moments after Ben
** The child [[DeathIsCheap doesn't stay dead]] (maybe even coming back that very day).
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* '''Double Subverted''': but then he dies.
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* '''Double Subverted''': but But then he dies.
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* '''Defied''': Bob fears outliving his son, so he raises, Ben, to stay as healthy as possible.
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* '''Defied''': Bob fears outliving his son, so he raises, Ben, raises Ben to stay as healthy as possible.
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'''Basic Trope''': A parent survives longer then their child does.
* '''Straight''': Bob outlives his son Ben.
* '''Straight''': Bob outlives his son Ben.
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'''Basic Trope''': A parent survives longer then than their child does.
* '''Straight''': Bob outlives hisson son, Ben.
* '''Straight''': Bob outlives his
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* '''Invoked''': [[OffingTheOffspring Bob killed his son]].
* '''Defied''': Bob fears outliving his son, so he raises Ben to stay as healthy as possible.
* '''Defied''': Bob fears outliving his son, so he raises Ben to stay as healthy as possible.
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* '''Invoked''': [[OffingTheOffspring Bob killed his son]].
'''Invoked''':
** OffingTheOffspring
** Ben is StuffedIntoTheFridge by a villain who wants to spite Bob.
* '''Defied''': Bob fears outliving his son, so heraises Ben raises, Ben, to stay as healthy as possible.
** OffingTheOffspring
** Ben is StuffedIntoTheFridge by a villain who wants to spite Bob.
* '''Defied''': Bob fears outliving his son, so he
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* '''Implied''': Bob lives with his grandson John while the latter's father is nowhere to be seen at all.
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* '''Implied''': Bob lives with his grandson John grandson, John, while the latter's father his son, Ben, is nowhere to be seen at all.
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* '''Double Subverted''': ???
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* '''Double Subverted''': ???but then he dies.
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'''Basic Trope''': A parent survives their children's death.
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'''Basic Trope''': A parent survives longer then their children's death.child does.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???
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* '''Downplayed''': ???Bob dies moments after Ben does.
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???
* '''Invoked''':
** OffingTheOffspring; Bob killed his son.
* '''Invoked''':
** OffingTheOffspring; Bob killed his son.
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???
"The thing I fear the most is my son dying before me."
*'''Invoked''':
** OffingTheOffspring;'''Invoked''': [[OffingTheOffspring Bob killed his son.son]].
* '''Defied''': Bob fears outliving his son, so he raises Ben to stay as healthy as possible.
*
** OffingTheOffspring;
* '''Defied''': Bob fears outliving his son, so he raises Ben to stay as healthy as possible.
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* '''Defied''': ???'''Implied''': Bob lives with his grandson John while the latter's father is nowhere to be seen at all.
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* '''Implied''': Bob lives with his grandson John while the latter's father is nowhere to be seen at all.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob outlives all his children.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob outlives all his children.children, and even his grandchildren.
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* '''Implied''': Bob lives with his grandson John while the latter's father is nowhere to be seen at all.
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* '''Exaggerated''': ???Bob outlives all his children.
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** OffingTheOffspring; Bob killed his son.
** OffingTheOffspring; Bob killed his son.
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'''Basic Trope''': A parent survives their children's death.
* '''Straight''': Bob outlives his son Ben.
* '''Exaggerated''': ???
* '''Downplayed''': ???
* '''Justified''':
** Ben died of disease.
** Ben was killed.
* '''Inverted''': Ben outlives his father.
* '''Subverted''': Ben turns out to be alive.
* '''Double Subverted''': ???
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': Bob and Ben are both alive throughout the story.
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': ???
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': ???
* '''Reconstructed''': ???
* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
* '''Played For Drama''': ???
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* '''Straight''': Bob outlives his son Ben.
* '''Exaggerated''': ???
* '''Downplayed''': ???
* '''Justified''':
** Ben died of disease.
** Ben was killed.
* '''Inverted''': Ben outlives his father.
* '''Subverted''': Ben turns out to be alive.
* '''Double Subverted''': ???
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': Bob and Ben are both alive throughout the story.
* '''Enforced''': ???
* '''Lampshaded''': ???
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': ???
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
* '''Deconstructed''': ???
* '''Reconstructed''': ???
* '''Played For Laughs''': ???
* '''Played For Drama''': ???
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