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** In the setting Thaddeus lives in, AllMythsAreTrue and/or its a FantasyKitchenSink, so the idea that Jesus was truly divine is a distinct possibility.
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* '''Exploited''': An atheist wizard uses this argument to try and turn people away from God.
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* '''Exploited''': An atheist A wizard cult leader uses this argument to try and turn justify himself- if people away from God.can have faith Jesus was a real divine being and not just a wizard, why not him?
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* '''Discussed''': ???A christian and atheist wizard get into a debate about whether they should consider Jesus just a wizard or a divine being.
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** Magic has rules that the miracles of Jesus break, such as not being able to resurrect the dead.
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** [[MagicAIsMagicA Magic has rules that the miracles of Jesus break, break]], such as not being able to resurrect the dead.
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** MagicIsEvil, so it would be impossible for a divine being of good to use it.
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** Magic has rules that the miracles of Jesus break, such as not being able to resurrect the dead.
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* '''Reconstructed''': When Thaddeus finally does ask his Pastor about it in private, the Pastor suggests [[TakeAThirdOption that being a wizard and being the son of God don't have to be mutually exclusive]], and that if he was one then it's because God made him one. Thaddeus is at ease with his faith now, and in fact is able to feel closer to Jesus because of the possibility of them sharing this.
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* '''Reconstructed''': When Thaddeus finally does ask his Pastor about it in private, the Pastor suggests [[TakeAThirdOption that being a wizard and being the son of God don't doesn't have to be mutually exclusive]], and that if he was one then it's because God made him one. Thaddeus is at ease with his faith now, and in fact is able to feel closer to Jesus because of the possibility of them sharing this.
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* '''Defied''': ???
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* '''Defied''': ???All the wizards in the book are atheists for just this reason.
* '''Reconstructed''': When Thaddeus finally does ask his Pastor about it in private, the Pastor suggests [[TakeAThirdOption that being a wizard and being the son of God don't have to be mutually exclusive]], and that if he was one then it's because God made him one. Thaddeus is at ease with his faith now, and in fact is able to feel closer to Jesus because of the possibility of them sharing this.
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** While Thaddeus has significant powers, the story compensated by making the miracles in the in-universe bible even more impressive.
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* '''Exploited''': ???An atheist wizard uses this argument to try and turn people away from God.
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That\'s more an aversion than a justification.
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** The story takes place in some universe that never had Christianity and thus the implications of Jesus having similar powers are moot.
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** Jesus is flat-out stated to have been a wizard.
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** Jesus or the [[AllMythsAreTrue local]] [[CrystalDragonJesus equivalent]] is flat-out stated considered by some proportion of modern-day wizards to have been a wizard.
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Previous description for Averted was A) actually more like a straight example than an aversion, and B) written from an inappropriate overtly religious point of view — As for Defied, that is about a character, not the show\'s creators, defying the trope so that example doesn\'t work.
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* '''Averted''': Jesus is who he actually is and everyone, even the ones with similar powers to him, know him.
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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
** Jesus iswho he actually is and everyone, even flat-out stated to have been a wizard.
** Or, theones show doesn't take place in a setting that contains both religions with similar teachings about miraculous powers to him, know him.and superheroes or wizards with similar, explicitly non-miraculous powers.
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* '''Defied''': The premise of the show is that Jesus was a wizard.
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* '''Defied''': The premise of the show is that Jesus was a wizard.???
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* '''Parodied''': ???Thaddeus is often called "The Savior" when he's playing D&D but he doesn't know anything about him.
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* '''Averted''': Jesus ''was'' a wizard, and this fact is common knowledge among modern-day wizards.
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* '''Averted''': Jesus ''was'' a wizard, is who he actually is and this fact is common knowledge among modern-day wizards.everyone, even the ones with similar powers to him, know him.
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** Thaddeus is having too much fun and responsibility with his powers to think about Jesus, much less the possibility of him having had such powers.
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** Jesus lived in a "null cycle" period of time. There was no mana at the time so he couldn't have been a wizard.
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** Jesus lived in a "null cycle" period of time. There was no mana at the time so he couldn't have been a wizard.wizard.
** The story takes place in some universe that never had Christianity and thus the implications of Jesus having similar powers are moot.
** The story takes place in some universe that never had Christianity and thus the implications of Jesus having similar powers are moot.
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* '''Exaggerated''': Thaddeus does the water-to-wine trick at parties all the time, [[MundaneUtility walks across the lake to his day job]], has come BackFromTheDead four times, and spent a year in the Third World healing sufferers of leprosy. The possibility that Jesus was a wizard never occurs to him.
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* '''Exaggerated''': '''Exaggerated''':
** Thaddeus does the water-to-wine trick at parties all the time, [[MundaneUtility walks across the lake to his day job]], has come BackFromTheDead four times, and spent a year in the Third World healing sufferers of leprosy. The possibility that Jesus was a wizard never occurs to him.
** Thaddeus does the water-to-wine trick at parties all the time, [[MundaneUtility walks across the lake to his day job]], has come BackFromTheDead four times, and spent a year in the Third World healing sufferers of leprosy. The possibility that Jesus was a wizard never occurs to him.
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* '''Justified''': Thaddeus is a [[RealMenLoveJesus devout Christian]] and takes it on faith that Jesus was truly divine despite having similar powers to wizards.
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* '''Justified''': '''Justified''':
** Thaddeus is a [[RealMenLoveJesus devout Christian]] and takes it on faith that Jesus was truly divine despite having similar powers to wizards.
** Thaddeus is a [[RealMenLoveJesus devout Christian]] and takes it on faith that Jesus was truly divine despite having similar powers to wizards.
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* '''Deconstructed''': Thaddeus has been a devout Christian all his life, but as he delves further and further into wizardry and learns more about what it is capable of, he begins to wonder if Jesus was a mere mortal who studied wizardry, leading him to a crisis of faith. He never talks about it because he doesn't want to admit to anyone that his faith is wavering.
* '''Deconstructed''': Thaddeus has been a devout Christian all his life, but as he delves further and further into wizardry and learns more about what it is capable of, he begins to wonder if Jesus was a mere mortal who studied wizardry, leading him to a crisis of faith. He never talks about it because he doesn't want to admit to anyone that his faith is wavering.
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* '''Double Subverted''': Jesus is in fact a divine being, he just didn't tell Thaddeus and company as much because [[JesusWasWayCool he didn't want to freak them out]].
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* '''Double Subverted''': In the above scenario, the viewer learns that Jesus is in fact a divine being, he being. He just didn't tell Thaddeus and company as much because [[JesusWasWayCool he didn't want to freak them out]].out]] and/or it better suits his grand plan for them not to know.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Modern mages know the spells to do everything Moses did. Some even ascribe him as the inventor of them. Even the most devout mages believe that he was a mage but hold that he was given the spells first as a reward for faith. Jesus's healing alone goes beyond all known capabilities of magic that would have been remotely plausible. Then a terrible deal with fair folk reveals secrets to healing. However even they can't resurrect.
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** Jesus lived in a "null cycle" period of time. There was no mana at the time so he couldn't have been a wizard.
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???"So was Jesus a...." "Shut up! [[BreakingTheFourthWall Do you want to get cancelled?!]]"
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* '''Conversed''': "Y'know, you'd think it would occur to Thaddeus that Jesus might have been a wizard, seeing as how he came back from the dead for the third time last week..."
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* '''Conversed''': "Y'know, you'd think it would occur to Thaddeus that Jesus might have been a wizard, seeing as how he came back from the dead for the third time last week...""
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** Thaddeus is himself a god by the story's definition thereof. He observes Christianity and sees no contradiction.
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** There is actual proof that Jesus was the Son of God.
