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* '''Justified''': The Troperian military intelligence deeply underestimated the Federation's capacity to fight.
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* '''Justified''': The Troperian military intelligence deeply underestimated the Federation's capacity to fight.fight and/or overestimated their own.
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* '''Defied''': The Military High Command and the Military Intellegence Office make a realistic projection of the campaign and personally bring it to the Emperor, [[GenreSavvy as not to be held responsible for overpromising when things inevitably go south]].
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* '''Defied''': The Military High Command and the Military Intellegence Intelligence Office make a realistic projection projections of the campaign and personally bring it them to the Emperor, [[GenreSavvy as not to be avoid being held responsible for overpromising when things inevitably go south]].
* '''Reconstructed''': The campaign teaches the Troperian government that it must improve its martial capacity so it can fight a war in three weeks the next time it has to fight a war.
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* '''Straight''': The Troperian Empire expects that their new offensive against the Federation will only last three weeks. It ends up lasting three months.
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* '''Straight''': [[TheEmpire The Troperian Empire Empire]] expects that their new offensive against the Federation TheFederation will only last three weeks. It ends up lasting three months.
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** The soldiers expect to be home by the Emperor's birthday. When that fails, [[MovingTheGoalposts the commanders promise them they'll be home by the Industry Day Parade]]. When ''that'' fails, they are promised they'll be home by the winter festivities. This falls through too, [[OverlyLongGag so the commanders move to a next festival, then another, then another]]... [[TheDitz and the soldiers keep buying it anyway]].
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** The soldiers expect to be home by the Emperor's birthday. When that fails, [[MovingTheGoalposts the commanders promise them they'll be home by the Industry Day Parade]]. When ''that'' fails, they are promised they'll be home by the winter festivities. This falls through too, [[OverlyLongGag so the commanders move to a next festival, then another, then another]]...another]] ... [[TheDitz and the soldiers keep buying it anyway]].
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* '''Zig Zagged''': The battle is over within 12 hours... but with massive casualties on the troparion side. The pyrrhic victory dishearts people almost as much as an actual drawn out war, and is easily as expensive.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': '''Zig-Zagged''': The battle is over within 12 hours... twelve hours ... but with massive casualties on the troparion Troperian side. The pyrrhic victory dishearts PyrrhicVictory disheartens people almost as much as an actual drawn out war, drawn-out war and is easily at least as expensive.
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** Years after the war's beginning, one weary soldier snarks "Go fight the Federation, they said! It'll be over by my birthday, he said! Yeah let's hope his birthdays last 4 years."
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** Years after the war's beginning, one weary soldier snarks snarks, "Go fight the Federation, they said! It'll be over by my birthday, he said! Yeah Yeah, let's hope his birthdays last 4 four years."
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* '''Discussed''': "Whenever the general makes a prediction on how long an offencive is going to last, mentally add 5 months."
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* '''Discussed''': "Whenever the general makes a prediction on how long an offencive offensive is going to last, mentally add 5 five months."
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* '''Implied''': A sign labeled "Victory in seven days!" hangs over a formation of defeated soldiers marching back.
* '''Deconstructed''': The campaign that was expected to last three weeks lasts three years. [[WarIsHell Millions of men die, millions more are left crippled, and the war eventually ends in a miserable defeat]]. Disillusioned veterans come back home, and decide to make the Troperian government pay for making false promises. [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI And as in the real world]], things continue going FromBadToWorse.
* '''Played For Laughs''': The Troperian Empire expects their new offensive to last for three weeks. It ends up lasting three months [[ArmedFarces because all the Troperian soldiers and officers are military-grade idiots]].
* '''Played For Drama''': Colonel Williams is given the Empire's optimistic timetable about the new offensive. He knows it won't work, and expects most of his troops to die pointlessly.
* '''Deconstructed''': The campaign that was expected to last three weeks lasts three years. [[WarIsHell Millions of men die, millions more are left crippled, and the war eventually ends in a miserable defeat]]. Disillusioned veterans come back home, and decide to make the Troperian government pay for making false promises. [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI And as in the real world]], things continue going FromBadToWorse.
* '''Played For Laughs''': The Troperian Empire expects their new offensive to last for three weeks. It ends up lasting three months [[ArmedFarces because all the Troperian soldiers and officers are military-grade idiots]].
* '''Played For Drama''': Colonel Williams is given the Empire's optimistic timetable about the new offensive. He knows it won't work, and expects most of his troops to die pointlessly.
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* '''Implied''': A sign labeled "Victory "[[AC:Victory in seven days!" Seven Days!]]" hangs over a formation of defeated soldiers marching back.
* '''Deconstructed''': The campaign that was expected to last three weeks lasts three years. [[WarIsHell Millions of men die, millions more are left crippled, and the war eventually ends in a miserabledefeat]]. defeat.]] Disillusioned veterans come back home, and decide to make the Troperian government pay for making false promises. [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarI And as in the real world]], things continue going FromBadToWorse.
* '''PlayedFor for Laughs''': The Troperian Empire expects their new offensive to last for three weeks. It ends up lasting three months [[ArmedFarces because all the Troperian soldiers and officers are military-grade idiots]].
* '''PlayedFor for Drama''': Colonel Williams is given the Empire's optimistic timetable about the new offensive. He knows it won't work, and expects most of his troops to die pointlessly.pointlessly.
* '''Played for Horror''': [[ShellShockedVeteran The war takes a toll on soldiers' mental health]] and we get to see the first-rate NightmareFuel that's visited upon them.
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** The Troperian Empire expects that the Federation will surrender within an [[TheshortWar hour or so]]. The conflict turns into ForeverWar.
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* '''Exaggerated''': The Troperian Empire expects that the Federation will fall within 12 hours, and ends up holding out for a year.
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** The Troperian Empire expects that the Federation will surrender within an [[TheshortWar hour or so]]. The conflict turns into ForeverWar.
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** The Troperian Empire expects that the Federation will surrender within an [[TheshortWar hour or so]]. The conflict turns into ForeverWar.
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* '''Enforced''': ???"WarIsHell, and we need to BreakTheCutie. How about we promise him the war will end sooner than it really does?"
** Years after the war's beginning, one weary soldier snarks "Go fight the Federation, they said! It'll be over by my birthday, he said! Yeah let's hope his birthdays last 4 years."
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* '''Conversed''': ???"Hey, a promise the war will be over by Christmas! I hear those are always accurate!"
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* '''Parodied''': The soldiers expect to be home by the Emperor's birthday. When that fails, [[MovingTheGoalposts the commanders promise them they'll be home by the Industry Day Parade]]. When ''that'' fails, they are promised they'll be home by the winter festivities. This falls through too, [[OverlyLongGag so the commanders move to a next festival, then another, then another]]... [[TheDitz and the soldiers keep buying it anyway]].
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** The soldiers expect to be home by the Emperor's birthday. When that fails, [[MovingTheGoalposts the commanders promise them they'll be home by the Industry Day Parade]]. When ''that'' fails, they are promised they'll be home by the winter festivities. This falls through too, [[OverlyLongGag so the commanders move to a next festival, then another, then another]]... [[TheDitz and the soldiers keep buying it anyway]].
** The soldiers expect to be home by the Emperor's birthday. When that fails, [[MovingTheGoalposts the commanders promise them they'll be home by the Industry Day Parade]]. When ''that'' fails, they are promised they'll be home by the winter festivities. This falls through too, [[OverlyLongGag so the commanders move to a next festival, then another, then another]]... [[TheDitz and the soldiers keep buying it anyway]].
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* '''Invoked''': ???TheMole mentions the trope to make his "allies" more likely to make mistakes and be demoralized.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???The Troperian Empire expects the war to be over in a year. The war ends in a year and a half.
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* '''Inverted''': ???The Troperian military expects a long, gruelling campaign. Instead, they end up fighting a light and breezy one due to [[WeAreStrugglingTogether disagreements in enemy ranks]] and their own side being run by a MagnificentBastard.
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[[RecruitersAlwaysLie Lying recruiters]] take full advantage of "the war will be over in three weeks!" rhetoric to lure more troops into the military.
* '''Defied''':???The Military High Command and the Military Intellegence Office make a realistic projection of the campaign and personally bring it to the Emperor, [[GenreSavvy as not to be held responsible for overpromising when things inevitably go south]].
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* '''Played For Laughs''': The Troperian Empire expects their new offensive to last for three weeks. It ends up lasting three months [[ArmedFarces because all the Troperian soldiers and officers are military-grade idiots]].
* '''Played For Laughs''': The Troperian Empire expects their new offensive to last for three weeks. It ends up lasting three months [[ArmedFarces because all the Troperian soldiers and officers are military-grade idiots]].
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'''Basic Trope''': A military offensive which is given an optimistic timetable ends up taking longer than expected.
* '''Straight''': The Troperian Empire expects that their new offensive against the Federation will only last three weeks. It ends up lasting three months.
* '''Exaggerated''': The Troperian Empire expects that the Federation will fall within 12 hours, and ends up holding out for a year.
%%* '''Downplayed''': ????
* '''Justified''': The Troperian military intelligence deeply underestimated the Federation's capacity to fight.
* '''Inverted''': The trope happens the other way around.
* '''Subverted''': The Troperian Empire expects their campaign to last three weeks, but the Federation forces collapse within hours of battle.
* '''Double Subverted''': Except it's actually a feint trap, luring in the Empire's forces for a devastating air strike.
* '''Parodied''': The trope is mocked, spoofed, or played straight to ridiculous levels for specific humour value.
* '''Zig Zagged''': The trope is simply "played with" in another way.
%%* '''Averted''': ????
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* '''Lampshaded''': "High Command is saying we'll end the fighting by the Emperor's birthday. I'm sure it'll be over by then."
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%%* '''Exploited''': ????
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* '''Discussed''': "See you all in Capital City in twenty days for cakes and sausage!"
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* '''Implied''': A sign labeled "Victory in seven days!" hangs over a formation of defeated soldiers marching back.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Colonel Williams is given the Empire's optimistic timetable about the new offensive. He knows it won't work, and expects most of his troops to die pointlessly.
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* '''Straight''': The Troperian Empire expects that their new offensive against the Federation will only last three weeks. It ends up lasting three months.
* '''Exaggerated''': The Troperian Empire expects that the Federation will fall within 12 hours, and ends up holding out for a year.
%%* '''Downplayed''': ????
* '''Justified''': The Troperian military intelligence deeply underestimated the Federation's capacity to fight.
* '''Inverted''': The trope happens the other way around.
* '''Subverted''': The Troperian Empire expects their campaign to last three weeks, but the Federation forces collapse within hours of battle.
* '''Double Subverted''': Except it's actually a feint trap, luring in the Empire's forces for a devastating air strike.
* '''Parodied''': The trope is mocked, spoofed, or played straight to ridiculous levels for specific humour value.
* '''Zig Zagged''': The trope is simply "played with" in another way.
%%* '''Averted''': ????
%%* '''Enforced''': ????
* '''Lampshaded''': "High Command is saying we'll end the fighting by the Emperor's birthday. I'm sure it'll be over by then."
%%* '''Invoked''': ????
%%* '''Exploited''': ????
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* '''Discussed''': "See you all in Capital City in twenty days for cakes and sausage!"
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* '''Implied''': A sign labeled "Victory in seven days!" hangs over a formation of defeated soldiers marching back.
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* '''Played For Drama''': Colonel Williams is given the Empire's optimistic timetable about the new offensive. He knows it won't work, and expects most of his troops to die pointlessly.
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