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* '''Parodied''': Both sides fight in a terrible formation, and both sides end up taking massive casualties as a result. This ends up being lampshaded thouroughly, via BlackComedy.
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* '''Parodied''': Both '''Parodied''':
**Both sides fight in a terrible formation, and both sides end up taking massive casualties as a result. This ends up being lampshaded thouroughly, viaBlackComedy.BlackComedy.
**Bob's army, without any formation, charges headlong into perfect formation of Charlie's troops. Charlies troops fly like ragdolls.
**Both sides fight in a terrible formation, and both sides end up taking massive casualties as a result. This ends up being lampshaded thouroughly, via
**Bob's army, without any formation, charges headlong into perfect formation of Charlie's troops. Charlies troops fly like ragdolls.
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** Bob's army's [[ConfusionFu formations only '''look''' nonexistent]], as clear formations would give away their tactics to the enemy.
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** Bob's army's [[ConfusionFu formations only '''look''' ]]'''[[ConfusionFu look ]]'''[[ConfusionFu nonexistent]], as clear formations would give away their tactics to the enemy.
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* '''Subverted''': Bob's army looks like a rabble, but as Charlie's cavalry comes charging into it, it quickly organises itself into a workable formation.
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* '''Subverted''': '''Subverted''':
** Bob's army looks like a rabble, but as Charlie's cavalry comes charging into it, it quickly organises itself into a workableformation.formation.
** Bob's army's [[ConfusionFu formations only '''look''' nonexistent]], as clear formations would give away their tactics to the enemy.
** Bob's army looks like a rabble, but as Charlie's cavalry comes charging into it, it quickly organises itself into a workable
** Bob's army's [[ConfusionFu formations only '''look''' nonexistent]], as clear formations would give away their tactics to the enemy.
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* '''Invoked''': ???
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* '''Invoked''': ???TheMole infiltrates the enemy's army to sabotage their training.
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* '''Conversed''': ???"I'm guessing the guy who wrote this story has no idea how military tactics work."
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** [[OurGiantsAreDifferent Giants]] aren't stupid but are far more psychologically solitary than humans. Even when serving a common cause they would find it difficult to cooperate in a time sensitive situation like a battlefield. Going BackToBackBadasses when both are surrounded is about the best thet can manage. Instead they rely upon [[UnskilledButStrong brute strength]] and superior reach.
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** Everyone fights in formations including wildlife and not even a counterpart (herd animals forming a circle in response to prowling predators for instance).
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** Bob's army heavily favors missle weapons but uses loose modern skirmish formations and using cover far more often. Only when pressed and out of ammo do they engage in brief and brutal melees counter charges with short spears. These anchronistic tactics turn out to be a plot point that his men are displaced grunts falling back on inapplicable modern training as "superior".
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* '''Implied''': The aftermath of a battle shows many loosely scattered corpses as opposed to the groupings that would be expected from formation fighting.
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* '''Parodied''': Both sides fight in a terrible formation, and both sides end up taking massive casualties as a result. This ends up being lampshaded thouroughly, via Main/BlackComedy.
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* '''Parodied''': Both sides fight in a terrible formation, and both sides end up taking massive casualties as a result. This ends up being lampshaded thouroughly, via Main/BlackComedy.BlackComedy.
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* '''Lampshaded''': Main/TheHero, Main/TheSmartGuy, or their counterparts, the Main/EvilOverlord or the Main/EvilGenius, remark on how the complete lack of anything resembling a formation becomes a problem.
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* '''Lampshaded''': Main/TheHero, Main/TheSmartGuy, TheHero, TheSmartGuy, or their counterparts, the Main/EvilOverlord EvilOverlord or the Main/EvilGenius, EvilGenius, remark on how the complete lack of anything resembling a formation becomes a problem.
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%%* '''Plotted A Good Waste''': ???
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** Breaking from formations in this case is a good example of thinking on their feet. Their foes had mastered grenades and staying in formation would allow a single grenade to kill tens of soldiers.
* '''Inverted''': Bob's army fights using proper formations... even the parts that really don't need to.
* '''Inverted''': Bob's army fights using proper formations... even the parts that really don't need to.
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** Breaking from formations in this case is a good example of thinking on their feet. Their foes had mastered grenades and staying in formation would allow a single grenade to easily kill tens dozens of soldiers.
* '''Inverted''': Bob's army fights using proper formations... even the parts that really don't needto.to or and would only be hindered by an extensive formation (such as scouts).
* '''Inverted''': Bob's army fights using proper formations... even the parts that really don't need
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* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob's assembled a RagtagBunchOfMisfits to fight Charlie's Empire. They're completely untrained, until Bob gets some ex-soldiers to teach them better. However, Bob has them look like a rabble in an attempt to trick Charlie, who doesn't know they've been trained. But as soon as Charlie's cavalry charges, they break and run in fear, because they weren't trained to handle ''mounted'' troops.
* '''Averted''': Bob's army fights in perfect formation when appropriate.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob's assembled a RagtagBunchOfMisfits to fight Charlie's Empire. They're completely untrained, until Bob gets some ex-soldiers to teach them better. However, Bob has them look like a rabble in an attempt to trick Charlie, who doesn't know they've been trained. But as soon as Charlie's cavalry charges, they break and run in fear, because they weren't trained to handle ''mounted'' troops.
* '''Averted''': Bob's army fights in perfect formation when appropriate.
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* '''Parodied''': ???
Both sides fight in a terrible formation, and both sides end up taking massive casualties as a result. This ends up being lampshaded thouroughly, via Main/BlackComedy.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob's assembled a RagtagBunchOfMisfits to fight Charlie's Empire. They're completely untrained, until Bob gets some ex-soldiers to teach them better. However, Bob has them look like a rabble in an attempt to trick Charlie, who doesn't know they've beentrained. But trained, and as soon as Charlie's cavalry army charges, they break and run in fear, because they weren't trained to handle ''mounted'' troops.
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* '''Averted''': Bob's army fights in absolutely perfect formation when appropriate.
* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob's assembled a RagtagBunchOfMisfits to fight Charlie's Empire. They're completely untrained, until Bob gets some ex-soldiers to teach them better. However, Bob has them look like a rabble in an attempt to trick Charlie, who doesn't know they've been
* '''Averted''': Bob's army fights in absolutely perfect formation when appropriate.
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* '''Lampshaded''': ???Main/TheHero, Main/TheSmartGuy, or their counterparts, the Main/EvilOverlord or the Main/EvilGenius, remark on how the complete lack of anything resembling a formation becomes a problem.
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* '''Exploited''': ???
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* '''Exploited''': ???Bob (who lives in a very early Bronze Age culture) invents the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shield_wall shield wall]], and his army becomes essentially invincible in battle, since no one else has anything comparable.
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* '''Downplayed''': ???Bob's army does use formations but only when bracing for cavalry.
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** Breaking from formations in this case is a good example of thinking on their feet. Their foes had mastered grenades and staying in formation would allow a single grenade to kill tens of soldiers.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob's assembled a RagtagBunchofMisfits to fight Charlie's Empire. They're completely untrained, until Bob gets some ex-soldiers to teach them better. However, Bob has them look like a rabble in an attempt to trick Charlie, who doesn't know they've been trained. But as soon as Charlie's cavalry charges, they break and run in fear, because they weren't trained to handle ''mounted'' troops.
* '''Averted''': See Inverted above.
* '''Averted''': See Inverted above.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob's assembled a RagtagBunchofMisfits RagtagBunchOfMisfits to fight Charlie's Empire. They're completely untrained, until Bob gets some ex-soldiers to teach them better. However, Bob has them look like a rabble in an attempt to trick Charlie, who doesn't know they've been trained. But as soon as Charlie's cavalry charges, they break and run in fear, because they weren't trained to handle ''mounted'' troops.
* '''Averted''':See Inverted above.Bob's army fights in perfect formation when appropriate.
* '''Averted''':
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* '''Inverted''': Bob's army fights using proper formations.
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* '''Inverted''': Bob's army fights using proper formations.formations... even the parts that really don't need to.
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* '''Zig Zagged''': ???Bob's assembled a RagtagBunchofMisfits to fight Charlie's Empire. They're completely untrained, until Bob gets some ex-soldiers to teach them better. However, Bob has them look like a rabble in an attempt to trick Charlie, who doesn't know they've been trained. But as soon as Charlie's cavalry charges, they break and run in fear, because they weren't trained to handle ''mounted'' troops.
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* '''Deconstructed''': The lack of formation use causes Bob's army to lose most of its fights while the victories [[PyrhicVictory can't be considered one in the long term.]]
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* '''Deconstructed''': The lack of formation use causes Bob's army to lose most of its fights while the victories [[PyrhicVictory [[PyrrhicVictory can't be considered one in the long term.]]
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%%* '''Deconstructed''': The lack of formation use causes Bob's army to lose most of it's fights while the victories [[PyrhicVictory can't be considered one in the long term.]]
%%* '''Reconstructed''': Bob's army adapts to acting as skirmishers instead and win through dividing enemy forces into one on one fights.
%%* '''Reconstructed''': Bob's army adapts to acting as skirmishers instead and win through dividing enemy forces into one on one fights.
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%%* '''Deconstructed''': The lack of formation use causes Bob's army to lose most of it's fights while the victories [[PyrhicVictory can't be considered one in the long term.]]
%%* '''Reconstructed''': Bob's army adapts to acting as skirmishers instead and win through dividing enemy forces into one on one fights.
%%* '''Reconstructed''': Bob's army adapts to acting as skirmishers instead and win through dividing enemy forces into one on one fights.
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You call that a formation?! [[CallThatAFormation back to the unabridged version with you]]!
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You call that a formation?! [[CallThatAFormation back Back to the unabridged version with you]]!
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* '''Double Subverted''': ...only for the formation to crumble when Charlie's cavalry makes contact.
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* '''Double Subverted''': ...only for the formation soldiers to crumble when Charlie's lose morale and run away before the cavalry makes contact.hits.
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'''Basic Trope''': Troops that should be fighting in formations don't.
* '''Straight''': Bob's army does not fight in any clear formation.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's army consists entirely of pikemen, and doesn't fight in any kind of formation
* '''Downplayed''': ???
* '''Justified''':
** Bob's army hasn't had any training in formations.
** The battle has been going on for a while, and the army has become disorganised as a result
* '''Inverted''': Bob's army fights using proper formations.
* '''Subverted''': Bob's army looks like a rabble, but as Charlie's cavalry comes charging into it, it quickly organises itself into a workable formation.
* '''Double Subverted''': ...only for the formation to crumble when Charlie's cavalry makes contact.
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': See Inverted above.
* '''Enforced''': "We need to make the battles more entertaining for the viewers."
* '''Lampshaded''': ???
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': Bob realises that his army has no formation, and makes sure they can fight in one.
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
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%%* '''Played For Drama''': ???
* '''Straight''': Bob's army does not fight in any clear formation.
* '''Exaggerated''': Bob's army consists entirely of pikemen, and doesn't fight in any kind of formation
* '''Downplayed''': ???
* '''Justified''':
** Bob's army hasn't had any training in formations.
** The battle has been going on for a while, and the army has become disorganised as a result
* '''Inverted''': Bob's army fights using proper formations.
* '''Subverted''': Bob's army looks like a rabble, but as Charlie's cavalry comes charging into it, it quickly organises itself into a workable formation.
* '''Double Subverted''': ...only for the formation to crumble when Charlie's cavalry makes contact.
* '''Parodied''': ???
* '''Zig Zagged''': ???
* '''Averted''': See Inverted above.
* '''Enforced''': "We need to make the battles more entertaining for the viewers."
* '''Lampshaded''': ???
* '''Invoked''': ???
* '''Exploited''': ???
* '''Defied''': Bob realises that his army has no formation, and makes sure they can fight in one.
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???
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