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* '''Parodied''': Bob, an AlmightyJanitor at a hospital, is allowed to testify as a medical expert because he's top of his game in janitor work. When challenged, the judge shrugs and says "he probably heard some medical jargon at some point, as well."
* '''Zig Zagged''': Bob the dentist is called in as a medical expert; the other side asks that it be disallowed, but then it turns out that the case revolves around teeth. However, the teeth are revealed not to be human teeth at all, but animal teeth. Fortunately, Bob was secretly a veterinary dentist all along.

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* '''Parodied''': Bob, an AlmightyJanitor at a hospital, is allowed to testify as a medical expert because he's top of his game in janitor work. When challenged, the judge shrugs and says "he says, "He probably heard some medical jargon at some point, as well."
* '''Zig Zagged''': '''Zig-Zagged''': Bob the dentist is called in as a medical expert; the other side asks that it be disallowed, but then it turns out that the case revolves around teeth. However, the teeth are revealed not to be human teeth at all, but animal teeth. Fortunately, Bob was secretly a veterinary dentist all along.along … Except these are ''deer'' teeth and he's only ever treated cats and dogs.



* '''Enforced''': The MoralGuardians of the day want people to respect authority no matter where it comes from, so all authority figures are to be treated as experts in everything.

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* '''Enforced''': The MoralGuardians of the day want people to respect authority no matter where it comes from, so all authority figures are to be treated as [[OmnidisciplinaryScientist experts in everything.everything]].



* '''Invoked''': Aware that his practical experience will be ignored if he doesn't have a title to show for it, Bob claims to have a doctorate in some made-up field, so that people will listen to him.
* '''Exploited''': ???

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* '''Invoked''': Aware that his practical experience will be ignored if he doesn't have a title to show for it, Bob claims to have a doctorate in some a made-up field, so that field to make people will listen to him.
* '''Exploited''': ???Alice, who has no expertise in studying anything to do with organisms, lobbies to be invited to testify in the next such case, pointing out that Bob was allowed to give evidence even though the matter was out of his wheelhouse.



* '''Implied''': After the case is adjourned, the losing side's lawyer and cardiologist complain that Bob got to testify despite not knowing the first thing about hearts.



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* '''Downplayed''': ???

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* '''Downplayed''': ???Bob is called as a dentistry expert, but he's a mediocre dentist and the case is more complex than what he usually deals with.
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* '''Inverted''': Bob, a doctor with years of experience, isn't allowed to testify as an expert in a trial.

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* '''Inverted''': Bob, a doctor with years of experience, [[IgnoredExpert isn't allowed to testify as an expert in a trial.trial]].



* '''Lampshaded''': A bystander said: "Wait, he's testifying as an expert? What?"

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* '''Lampshaded''': A bystander said: says, "Wait, he's testifying as an expert? What?"



* '''Defied''': The judge said: "I'm not going to allow Bob to testify as an expert."

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* '''Defied''': The judge said: "I'm not going refuses to allow Bob to testify as an expert."



* '''Conversed''': A character, watching a court case on TV, tells his friend that "they always bring in the dentist because he's a respected authority on dentistry, but they don't realise that doesn't make him a good expert on medicine".
* '''Deconstructed''': People listen to Bob when they really shouldn't; as a result, either an innocent man is imprisoned or a guilty man goes free.

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* '''Conversed''': A character, watching a court case on TV, tells his friend that "they always bring in the dentist because he's a respected authority on dentistry, but they don't realise that doesn't make him a good expert on medicine".
medicine."
* '''Deconstructed''': People listen to Bob when they really shouldn't; as a result, either an innocent man person is imprisoned or a guilty man person goes free.

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* '''Deconstructed''': People listen to Bob when they really shouldn't; as a result, either an innocent man is imprisoned or a guilty man goes free.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** Aware of his lack of real expertise, Bob is very careful with what he says; he isn't as useful as a real medical expert would be, but at least he avoids saying anything totally wrong and causing justice to miscarry.
** Alternatively, once Bob points out the flaw to the judges, they revise the rules on expert testimony so that only relevant experts are allowed in the future.



* '''Exploited''': ???



* '''Deconstructed''': People listen to Bob when they really shouldn't; as a result, either an innocent man is imprisoned or a guilty man goes free.
* '''Reconstructed''':
** Aware of his lack of real expertise, Bob is very careful with what he says; he isn't as useful as a real medical expert would be, but at least he avoids saying anything totally wrong and causing justice to miscarry.
** Once Bob points out the flaw to the judges, they revise the rules on expert testimony so that only relevant experts are allowed in the future.



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* '''Reconstructed''': Aware of his lack of real expertise, Bob is very careful with what he says; he isn't as useful as a real medical expert would be, but at least he avoids saying anything totally wrong and causing justice to miscarry.

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* '''Reconstructed''': '''Reconstructed''':
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Aware of his lack of real expertise, Bob is very careful with what he says; he isn't as useful as a real medical expert would be, but at least he avoids saying anything totally wrong and causing justice to miscarry.



* '''Averted''': Bob is not allowed as an expert.

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* '''Averted''': '''Averted''':
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Bob is not allowed as an expert.



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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob, a first-year med student, is called in as a "medical expert" in a trial.
* '''Justified''': Bob ''does'' know medicine, just not to the degree that makes him an expert.

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* '''Exaggerated''': Bob, a first-year med student, the world's leading expert on dental cavities, second to none, is called in as a "medical expert" in a trial.
trial and asked to analyse the foot bones of the victim.
* '''Justified''': Bob ''does'' know medicine, medicine to a respectable degree, just not to the degree that makes him an expert.



* '''Double Subverted''': However, it's revealed that the case revolves around the defendant's teeth, so the dentist is a necessary expert.
* '''Parodied''': Bob, a janitor at a hospital, is allowed to testify as a medical expert because "he probably heard some medical jargon at some point."

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* '''Double Subverted''': However, it's revealed the judge refuses on the grounds that the case revolves around the defendant's teeth, a dentist's credentials allows him to comment on medical procedure, so the dentist is a necessary expert.
* '''Parodied''': Bob, a janitor an AlmightyJanitor at a hospital, is allowed to testify as a medical expert because he's top of his game in janitor work. When challenged, the judge shrugs and says "he probably heard some medical jargon at some point.point, as well."



** Alternatively, once Bob points out the flaw to the judges, they revise the rules on expert testimony so that only relevant experts are allowed in the future.



* '''Lampshaded''': "Wait, he's testifying as an expert? What?"

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* '''Lampshaded''': A bystander said: "Wait, he's testifying as an expert? What?"



* '''Defied''': "I'm not going to allow Bob to testify as an expert."
* '''Discussed''': ???
* '''Conversed''': ???

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* '''Defied''': The judge said: "I'm not going to allow Bob to testify as an expert."
* '''Discussed''': ???
Commentators in the courtroom talk about Bob's credentials and argue with each other over why he's suitable.
* '''Conversed''': ???A character, watching a court case on TV, tells his friend that "they always bring in the dentist because he's a respected authority on dentistry, but they don't realise that doesn't make him a good expert on medicine".

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