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** Alternatively, the race is led by a powerful celestial-king who enforces a supernatural law that will make a member expelled from their land/world/dimension if said member do something that's not 100% Good. Naturally, most people choose the path of Good for their own convenience.
** Alternately, the race is from a DeathWorld where they must band together to survive, and thus uphold high moral standards to keep things from falling apart.
** Alternately, they were artificially created to be Good/[[CareBearStare so zealously altruistic]] that they're, by any standard, Good.
** Alternately, they are part of a HiveMind which is dedicated to Good.
** Alternately, is needed be Good to turn yourself into a member of the race.
** Alternately, their gods simply made them that way.

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** Alternatively, the The race is led by a powerful celestial-king who enforces a supernatural law that will make expel a member expelled from their land/world/dimension if said member do does something that's not 100% Good. Naturally, most people choose the path of Good for their own convenience.
** Alternately, the The race is from a DeathWorld where they must band together to survive, and thus uphold high moral standards to keep things from falling apart.
** Alternately, they They were artificially created to be Good/[[CareBearStare so zealously altruistic]] that they're, by any standard, Good.
** Alternately, they They are part of a HiveMind which is dedicated to Good.
** Alternately, It is needed be Good to turn yourself into a member of the race.
** Alternately, their Their gods simply made them that way.



** Alternately, the race suffers from a case of BlueAndOrangeMorality, and while their actions render them AlwaysLawfulGood in our purview, they may believe they are neutral or even evil.

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** Alternately, the The race suffers from a case of BlueAndOrangeMorality, and while their actions render them AlwaysLawfulGood in our purview, they may believe they are neutral or even evil.



** We see some angel race on the side of Good, but then it turns out there are just as many of them allied with the BigBad's side, we just hadn't run into them yet.
** Characters get to meet the KnightTemplar side of the race.
** Characters find a Good angel, but it wants to kill them and take their belonging.
** The race isn't Good, but it is portrayed as such as a massive propaganda campaign by said race.

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** 1.) We see some angel race on the side of Good, but then it turns out there are just as many of them allied with the BigBad's side, we just hadn't run into them yet.
** 2.) Characters get to meet the KnightTemplar side of the race.
** 3.) Characters find a Good angel, but it wants to kill them and take their belonging.
** 4.) The race isn't Good, but it is portrayed as such as a massive propaganda campaign by said race.



** The 'Good angel race' turns out to not be entirely Good, since some are on the evil side, until the innate spark of Good-ness in their blood causes the evil angels to switch sides when the world starts to fall apart.
** [[CrapsackWorld The Knight Templars]] [[TheExtremistWasRight are right]].
** After all those homicides and robberies the characters do, it would only be right for an angel to kill the characters and bring back the belongings.
** The propaganda campaign is carried out via word of mouth by people who see and experience the constant good deeds of the Good Race. Just because they're kind and altruistic doesn't mean they don't like tooting their own horns.
** Alternatively, the race is actually GoodIsNotNice.

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** 1.) The 'Good angel race' turns out to not be entirely Good, since some are on the evil side, until the innate spark of Good-ness in their blood causes the evil angels to switch sides when the world starts to fall apart.
** 2.) [[CrapsackWorld The Knight Templars]] [[TheExtremistWasRight are right]].
** 3.) After all those homicides and robberies the characters do, it would only be right for an angel to kill the characters and bring back the belongings.
** 4.) The propaganda campaign is carried out via word of mouth by people who see and experience the constant good deeds of the Good Race. Just because they're kind and altruistic doesn't mean they don't like tooting their own horns.
** Alternatively, the 4.) The race is actually GoodIsNotNice.



** A member of the race begins preaching that they all have free will and do not have to simply be Good. This gains credibility among everyone, some members turn Evil, some remain Good. The ones who remain Good feel reinvigorated because they have now chosen Good, and become more Goody-Good than ever. [[AlreadyDoneForYou The Good members proceed to kill the]] EvilOverlord, because ''lolGood!''.

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** A member of the race begins preaching that they all have free will and do not have to simply be Good. This gains credibility among everyone, and so some members turn Evil, Evil while some remain Good. The ones who remain Good feel reinvigorated because they have now chosen Good, and become more Goody-Good than ever. [[AlreadyDoneForYou The Good members proceed to kill the]] EvilOverlord, because ''lolGood!''.



** "See, if this were a fantasy book, I wouldn't be able to beat the living crap out of you and take your belongings guys, since angels have to be Good and all. You guys are just plain unlucky!"

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** "See, if this were a fantasy book, I wouldn't be able to beat the living crap out of you and take your belongings guys, belongings, since angels have to be Good and all. You guys are just plain unlucky!"



** 1. The angel race are all Good... because they discarded their free wills and subjected themselves to HiveMind dedicated to Good-ness. Eventually the HiveMind is dismantled (for good), and they have a hard time deciding just ''what'' is Good on their own.

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** 1. The angel race are all Good... because they discarded their free wills and subjected themselves to a HiveMind dedicated to Good-ness. Eventually the HiveMind is dismantled (for good), and they have a hard time deciding just ''what'' is Good on their own.



** 7. If they're incapable of doing evil or even being neutral, the good they do isn't by choice, thus they can't be praised. Only people of morally varied races can be viewed as true heroes.

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** 7. If they're incapable of doing evil or even being neutral, then the good they do isn't by choice, thus they can't be praised. Only people of morally varied races can be viewed as true heroes.



** 5. The race is a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Warrior Race Culture]] of {{Martial Pacifist}}s. They do their best to look for the good in others and give them the benefit of the doubt, but if they are attacked they respond in kind. They had a sister race with good and evil impulses but it bred so many {{Blood Knight}}s they caused themselves more trouble than invaders ever did.
** 6. Their normal is our good and we don't like {{Smug Snake}}s so they abhor them. They do their best to be {{Humble Hero}}es and say ThinkNothingOfIt. Nonetheless they are accused by other races of thinking themselves better than them because they are so humble.
** 7. Even if they can't be truly heroic, they're still a good example for morally flawed races to follow.

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** 5. The race is a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Warrior Race Culture]] of {{Martial Pacifist}}s. They do their best to look for the good in others and give them the benefit of the doubt, but if they are attacked they respond in kind. They had a sister race with good and evil impulses impulses, but it bred so many {{Blood Knight}}s they that the sister race caused themselves itself more trouble than invaders ever did.
** 6. Their normal is our good good, and we don't like {{Smug Snake}}s Snake}}s, so they abhor them. They do their best to be {{Humble Hero}}es and say ThinkNothingOfIt. Nonetheless they are accused by other races of thinking themselves better than them because they are so humble.
** 7. Even if they can't be truly heroic, they're still a good example for morally flawed races to follow. Thus, it is more common for one of the angel race to be TheMentor or TheLancer for up-and-coming heroes than to do be TheHero themselves.
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** 7. If they're incapable of doing evil or even being neutral, the good they do isn't by choice, thus they can't be praised. Only people of morally varied races can be viewed as true heroes.


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** 7. Even if they can't be truly heroic, they're still a good example for morally flawed races to follow.
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** If a [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Bright One]] becomes evil they [[EvilMakesYouMonstrous transform]] into a [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Shadow]], so any that still retain their Bright One form are necessarily good.

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** If a Any [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Bright One]] becomes evil they who forsakes goodness [[EvilMakesYouMonstrous transform]] transforms]] into a [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Shadow]], so any that still retain their Bright One form are necessarily good.
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** If a [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Bright One]] becomes evil they [[EvilMakesYouMonstrous transform]] into a [[OurDemonsAreDifferent Shadow]], so any that still retain their Bright One form are necessarily good.
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** An angelic race is a form of good but can range from the [[LawfulGood lawful]][[NeutralGood -to-]][[ChaoticGood chaotic]] spectrum depending on the character in the race.

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* '''Zig Zagged''': The angels are seen performing apparently-evil actions against the heroes. The heroes start to view them as evil, until it turns out those evil actions really were necessary, and GoodIsNotNice after all. However, having got a taste of nastiness, some of the angels decide they like it and start doing unnecessary villainous acts ForTheEvulz. The remaining good angels confront them with a WhatTheHellHero type speech, and the evil ones all simultaneously go into VillainousBSOD at the HeelRealization that they've become the bad guys.

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angels are seen performing apparently-evil actions against the heroes. The heroes start to view them as evil, until it turns out those evil actions really were necessary, and GoodIsNotNice after all. However, having got a taste of nastiness, some of the angels decide they like it and start doing unnecessary villainous acts ForTheEvulz. The remaining good angels confront them with a WhatTheHellHero type speech, and the evil ones all simultaneously go into VillainousBSOD at the HeelRealization that they've become the bad guys.guys.
** Angels are benevolent, but they have BlueAndOrangeMorality, so they seem evil at times.
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* '''Straight''': There's a race of angelic beings who are all good [[GoodIsNotNice in one way or another]].

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* '''Straight''': There's a race of angelic beings who are all good in [[AllLovingHero one way]] or [[GoodIsNotNice in one way or another]].
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** Alternatively, the race is actually GoodIsNotNice.
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* '''Exploited''': Bullying the aforementioned angel. [[WhatTheHellHero By Heavens, heroes, what are you doing?!]]

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* '''Exploited''': Bullying the aforementioned angel. [[WhatTheHellHero [[TakingAdvantageOfGenerosity By Heavens, heroes, what are you doing?!]]



** "See, if this were a fantasy book, I wouldn't be able to beat the living crap out of you and take your belonging guys, since angels have to be Good and all. You guys are just plain unlucky!"

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** "See, if this were a fantasy book, I wouldn't be able to beat the living crap out of you and take your belonging belongings guys, since angels have to be Good and all. You guys are just plain unlucky!"



** 3. Everyone assumes that a celestial race is all good... thus forcing an utopian sense of morality to celestials who, despite their great abilities, has human limitations.

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** 3. Everyone assumes that a celestial race is all good... thus forcing an utopian sense of morality to on celestials who, despite their great abilities, has have human limitations.



** 5. The race is a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Warrior Race Culture]] of {{Martial Pacifist}}s. They do their best to look for the good in others and give them the benefit of the doubt, but if they are attacked they respond in kind. They had a sister race with good and evil impulses but it bred so many {{Blood Knight}}s they caused themselves more trouble than invaders.

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** 5. The race is a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Warrior Race Culture]] of {{Martial Pacifist}}s. They do their best to look for the good in others and give them the benefit of the doubt, but if they are attacked they respond in kind. They had a sister race with good and evil impulses but it bred so many {{Blood Knight}}s they caused themselves more trouble than invaders.invaders ever did.
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** Similarly to how the Fey cannot understand lying, the race doesn't understand cruelty/murder/etc. and as such no one of said race has those qualities.

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** Similarly to how the Fey cannot understand lying, the race [[GoodCannotComprehendEvil doesn't understand cruelty/murder/etc.cruelty/murder/etc]]. and as such no one of said race has those qualities.
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** Alternatively, the race is led by a powerful celestial-king who enforce a supernatural law that will make a member expelled from their land/world/dimension if said member do something that's not 100% Good. Naturally, most people choose the path of Good for their own convenience.

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** Alternatively, the race is led by a powerful celestial-king who enforce enforces a supernatural law that will make a member expelled from their land/world/dimension if said member do something that's not 100% Good. Naturally, most people choose the path of Good for their own convenience.
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** Alternately, the race is from a Death World where they must band together to survive, and thus uphold high moral standards to keep things from falling apart.

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** Alternately, the race is from a Death World DeathWorld where they must band together to survive, and thus uphold high moral standards to keep things from falling apart.
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** The race is led by a powerful celestial-king who enforce a supernatural law that will make a member expelled from their land/world/dimension if said member do something that's not 100% Good. Naturally, most people choose the path of Good for their own convenience.
** Alternately, the race is from a Death World where they must band together to survive, and thus uphold high moral standard to keep things from falling apart.

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** The Alternatively, the race is led by a powerful celestial-king who enforce a supernatural law that will make a member expelled from their land/world/dimension if said member do something that's not 100% Good. Naturally, most people choose the path of Good for their own convenience.
** Alternately, the race is from a Death World where they must band together to survive, and thus uphold high moral standard standards to keep things from falling apart.



** The 'Good angel race' turns out to not be entirely Good, since some are on the evil side, until the innate spark of Good-ness in their blood cause the evil angels to switch sides when the world start to fall apart.

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** The 'Good angel race' turns out to not be entirely Good, since some are on the evil side, until the innate spark of Good-ness in their blood cause causes the evil angels to switch sides when the world start starts to fall apart.
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The relativism thing was already there.


** The work discusses the very nature of morality, showcasing why it is impossible for something to be defined as "perfectly good" (see WhatIsEvil).
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** The angel race are all Good... because they discarded their free wills and subjected themselves to HiveMind dedicated to Good-ness. Eventually the HiveMind is dismantled (for good), and they have a hard time deciding just ''what'' is Good on their own.
** The presence of an AlwaysLawfulGood race leads to discussions of moral relativism vs. moral absolutism and whether or not we can force our moral standards on a race.
** Everyone assumes that a celestial race is all good... thus forcing an utopian sense of morality to celestials who, despite their great abilities, has human limitations.
** Members of this race are prone to stress, insecurity, unjustified guilt, and messiah complexes. Their very nature drives them to be heroic in their every waking moment, but nobody's perfect. Whatever drives them to this altruism doesn't have an off switch, and they just can't manage to forgive their own failures and shortcomings, not when innocent lives may be at stake.
** The AlwaysLawfulGood race really is [[IncorruptiblePurePureness as completely pure and good and honest as they sound]], to the extent that they are not only incapable of evil, but unable to [[EvilCannotComprehendGood even conceive of the concept]] or [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter recognize evil behavior in others]]. When they encounter evil, they are incapable of defending themselves against it, and may not even realize that such defense is necessary until too late, and they are brutally slaughtered. A race with both good and evil impulses has no such difficulty, and can survive and [[PayEvilUntoEvil fight back]] against the onslaught of a greater evil.
** Because their normal is our good, they have higher standards when it comes what is good/moral. As a result; [[HolierThanThou they're self-righteous & preachy and see themselves as being better than us]].

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** 1. The angel race are all Good... because they discarded their free wills and subjected themselves to HiveMind dedicated to Good-ness. Eventually the HiveMind is dismantled (for good), and they have a hard time deciding just ''what'' is Good on their own.
** 2. The presence of an AlwaysLawfulGood race leads to discussions of moral relativism vs. moral absolutism and whether or not we can force our moral standards on a race.
** 3. Everyone assumes that a celestial race is all good... thus forcing an utopian sense of morality to celestials who, despite their great abilities, has human limitations.
** 4. Members of this race are prone to stress, insecurity, unjustified guilt, and messiah complexes. Their very nature drives them to be heroic in their every waking moment, but nobody's perfect. Whatever drives them to this altruism doesn't have an off switch, and they just can't manage to forgive their own failures and shortcomings, not when innocent lives may be at stake.
** 5. The AlwaysLawfulGood race really is [[IncorruptiblePurePureness as completely pure and good and honest as they sound]], to the extent that they are not only incapable of evil, but unable to [[EvilCannotComprehendGood even conceive of the concept]] or [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter recognize evil behavior in others]]. When they encounter evil, they are incapable of defending themselves against it, and may not even realize that such defense is necessary until too late, and they are brutally slaughtered. A race with both good and evil impulses has no such difficulty, and can survive and [[PayEvilUntoEvil fight back]] against the onslaught of a greater evil.
** 6. Because their normal is our good, they have higher standards when it comes what is good/moral. As a result; [[HolierThanThou they're self-righteous & preachy and see themselves as being better than us]].



** [[RousseauWasRight Since (at the very least, some) of their ideals of Good work, they continue to do Good despite now having no magical morality leash]].
** They cut the knot by stopping the discussion and deciding to be nice to each other. They help without being overly preachy.
** The celestial race, as a whole, does their best to live up to expectations, and though they're not perfect, they're an example for everyone else.
** While good, the members of the race recognize that they are imperfect beings, and have learned not to beat themselves up over every little mistake. You can't change the past, so the best you can do is admit you were wrong and try to do better next time.
** The race are a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Warrior Race Culture]] of {{Martial Pacifist}}s. They do their best to look for the good in others and give them the benefit of the doubt, but if they are attacked they respond in kind. They had a sister race with good and evil impulses but it bred so many {{Blood Knight}}s they caused themselves more trouble than invaders.
** Their normal is our good and we don't like {{Smug Snake}}s so they abhor them. They do their best to be {{Humble Hero}}es and say ThinkNothingOfIt. Nonetheless they are accused by other races of thinking themselves better than them because they are so humble.

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** 1. [[RousseauWasRight Since (at the very least, some) of their ideals of Good work, they continue to do Good despite now having no magical morality leash]].
** 2. They cut the knot by stopping the discussion and deciding to be nice to each other. They help without being overly preachy.
** 3. The celestial race, as a whole, does their best to live up to expectations, and though they're not perfect, they're an example for everyone else.
** 4. While good, the members of the race recognize that they are imperfect beings, and have learned not to beat themselves up over every little mistake. You can't change the past, so the best you can do is admit you were wrong and try to do better next time.
** 5. The race are is a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Proud Warrior Race Culture]] of {{Martial Pacifist}}s. They do their best to look for the good in others and give them the benefit of the doubt, but if they are attacked they respond in kind. They had a sister race with good and evil impulses but it bred so many {{Blood Knight}}s they caused themselves more trouble than invaders.
** 6. Their normal is our good and we don't like {{Smug Snake}}s so they abhor them. They do their best to be {{Humble Hero}}es and say ThinkNothingOfIt. Nonetheless they are accused by other races of thinking themselves better than them because they are so humble.
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** The species are all {{AntiHero}}es who try to do the right thing and their attempts at such end up morally ambiguous.

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** The species are all {{AntiHero}}es {{Anti Hero}}es who try to do the right thing and their attempts at such end up morally ambiguous.
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** The race is in perfect syntony with The Light, [[LightIsGood which is good in this setting]].

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** The race is in perfect syntony tuning with The Light, [[LightIsGood which is good in this setting]].
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** The work discusses the very nature of morality, showcasing why it is impossible for something to be defined as "perfectly good" (see WhatIsEvil).
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** The race is in perfect syntony with The Light, [[LightIsGood which is good in this setting]].

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