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* And now we learn there's a second faction of gods who don't even like the universe, and want to destroy it so they can move on to the next one. The nihilism of two sociopathy-worshipping factions using entire populations as pawns is nauseating.

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* And now we learn there's a second faction of gods who don't even like the universe, and want to destroy it so they can move on to the next one. The nihilism of two sociopathy-worshipping factions of all-powerful deities, using entire populations as pawns in a cosmic game that is even less dignified than schoolyard bullying, is nauseating.

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* The precursor humans achieved perfect tolerance, even between gods that could crush them to bits. Except their all-loving peace didn't fit the gods' plans of a tormenting cycle of reincarnation to sustain the universe, so they ordered the Sura to ''murder them all''. Then the humans came back stronger than ever and even discovered a way to recover their past incarnations' memories, bearing miserable grudges for having everything taken from them through no sin of their own. The gods order everyone to ''shred their souls into fertilizer''. The new replacement species of humans is filled ''by design'' with shallow, selfish assholes, including their unrepentant serial killer Asha (who they ''created''), and the gods are ''content'' because said assholes work well with their plans, for now. To those higher in caste and in power, your morality in this universe doesn't matter, only your utility to the 'greater good' - which crushed the innocent and (temporarily) rewarded the guilty.
** The true scope of the story of ancient humanity can be considered a horrific CosmicHorrorStory. Not only did Brahma not favor them, ensuring a cruel end no matter what they did or how kind they were, the only reason Brahma acted this way was because they were convinced by Kali, the goddess most infamous for her persuasive capabilities. This is on top of winning the previous universe's competition fair and square by Brahma's own rules. In other words, their billion years worth of suffering and torment was caused simply due to the whims of a higher being they had no chance to appease. Mull that over.

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* The precursor humans achieved perfect tolerance, even between gods that could crush them to bits. Except their all-loving peace didn't fit the gods' plans of a tormenting cycle of reincarnation to sustain the universe, so they the gods ordered the Sura to ''murder them all''. Then the humans came back stronger than ever ever, and even discovered a way to recover their past incarnations' memories, bearing miserable grudges for having everything taken from them through no sin of their own. The In response, the gods order ordered everyone in the universe to ''shred their souls into fertilizer''. The new replacement species of humans is filled filled, ''by design'' design'', with shallow, selfish assholes, including their unrepentant serial killer Asha (who they ''created''), and the gods are ''content'' because said assholes work well with their plans, for now. To those higher in caste and in power, your morality in this universe doesn't matter, only your utility to the 'greater good' - which crushed the innocent and (temporarily) rewarded the guilty.
** The true scope of the story of ancient humanity can be considered a horrific CosmicHorrorStory. Not only did Brahma not favor them, ensuring a cruel end fate no matter what they did or how kind they were, the only reason Brahma acted this way was because they were convinced by bore a grudge against Kali, the goddess most infamous for her persuasive capabilities. capabilities, and took it out on her pawns. This is on top of ancient humanity winning the previous universe's competition fair and square by Brahma's own rules. rules, ''which ticked her off further''. In other words, their billion years years' worth of suffering and torment was caused simply due to the whims of a higher being they could not understand and had no chance to appease. Mull that over. over.
* And now we learn there's a second faction of gods who don't even like the universe, and want to destroy it so they can move on to the next one. The nihilism of two sociopathy-worshipping factions using entire populations as pawns is nauseating.



* And now we learn there's a second faction of gods who don't even like the universe, and want to destroy it so they can move on to the next one. The nihilism of two sociopathy-worshipping factions using entire populations as pawns is nauseating.

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* The Takara parasites: They've been infesting and taking control of sura from other clans, and stealing their power. If one were to get ahold of a nastika like Gandharva, which is an In-Universe concern, it'd be nigh unstoppable.
* When Maruna manages to reach the sura realm, he finds chaos as what appears to be sura from allied clans battle it out. When he asks Akasha what's going on, and [[spoiler:where are the Garuda, she states she's the only one left who can fight]].

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* The Takara parasites: They've been infesting and taking control of sura from other clans, and stealing their power. If one were to get ahold a hold of a nastika like Gandharva, which is an In-Universe concern, it'd be nigh unstoppable.
* When Maruna manages to reach the sura realm, he finds chaos as what appears to be sura from allied clans battle it out. When he asks Akasha what's going on, and [[spoiler:where are the Garuda, Garuda are, she states she's the only one left who can fight]].fight.



* The precursor humans achieved perfect tolerance, even between gods that could crush them to bits. Except their all-loving peace didn't fit the gods' plans of a tormenting cycle of reincarnation to sustain the universe, so they ordered the Sura to ''murder them all''. Then the humans came back stronger than ever and even discovered a way to recover their past incarnations' memories, bearing miserable grudges for having everything taken from them through no sin of their own. The gods order everyone to ''shred their souls into fertilizer''. The new replacement species of humans is filled ''by design'' with shallow, selfish assholes, including their unrepentant serial killer [[spoiler:Asha]] (who they ''created''), and the gods are ''content'' because said assholes work well with their plans, for now. To those higher in caste and in power, your morality in this universe doesn't matter, only your utility to the 'greater good' - which crushed the innocent and (temporarily) rewarded the guilty.
** The true scope of the story of ancient humanity can be considered a horrific CosmicHorrorStory. Not only did Brahma not favor them, [[spoiler: ensuring a cruel end no matter what they did or how kind they were, the only reason Brahma acted this way was because they were convinced by Kali, the goddess most infamous for her persuasive capabilities. This is on top of winning the previous universe's competition fair and square by Brahma's own rules. In other words, their billion years worth of suffering and torment was caused simply due to the whims of a higher being they had no chance to appease. Mull that over]].

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* The precursor humans achieved perfect tolerance, even between gods that could crush them to bits. Except their all-loving peace didn't fit the gods' plans of a tormenting cycle of reincarnation to sustain the universe, so they ordered the Sura to ''murder them all''. Then the humans came back stronger than ever and even discovered a way to recover their past incarnations' memories, bearing miserable grudges for having everything taken from them through no sin of their own. The gods order everyone to ''shred their souls into fertilizer''. The new replacement species of humans is filled ''by design'' with shallow, selfish assholes, including their unrepentant serial killer [[spoiler:Asha]] Asha (who they ''created''), and the gods are ''content'' because said assholes work well with their plans, for now. To those higher in caste and in power, your morality in this universe doesn't matter, only your utility to the 'greater good' - which crushed the innocent and (temporarily) rewarded the guilty.
** The true scope of the story of ancient humanity can be considered a horrific CosmicHorrorStory. Not only did Brahma not favor them, [[spoiler: ensuring a cruel end no matter what they did or how kind they were, the only reason Brahma acted this way was because they were convinced by Kali, the goddess most infamous for her persuasive capabilities. This is on top of winning the previous universe's competition fair and square by Brahma's own rules. In other words, their billion years worth of suffering and torment was caused simply due to the whims of a higher being they had no chance to appease. Mull that over]].over.
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** The true scope of the story of ancient humanity can be considered a horrific CosmicHorrorStory. Not only did Brahma not favor them, [[spoiler: ensuring a cruel end no matter what they did or how kind they were, the only reason Brahma acted this way was because they were convinced by Kali, the goddess most infamous for her persuasive capabilities. This is on top of winning the previous universe's competition fair and square by Brahma's own rules. In other words, their billion years worth of suffering and torment was caused simply due to the whims of a higher being they had no chance to appease. Mull that over]].
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* The precursor humans achieved perfect tolerance, even between gods that could crush them to bits. Except their all-loving peace didn't fit the gods' plans of a tormenting cycle of reincarnation to sustain the universe, so they ordered the Sura to ''murder them all''. Then the humans came back stronger than ever and even discovered a way to recover their past incarnations' memories, bearing miserable grudges for having everything taken from them through no sin of their own. The gods order everyone to ''shred their souls into fertilizer''. The new replacement species of humans is filled ''by design'' with shallow, selfish assholes, including their unrepentant serial killer [[spoiler:Asha]] (who they ''created''), and the gods are ''content'' because said assholes work well with their plans, for now. To those higher in caste and in power, your morality in this universe doesn't matter, only your utility to the 'greater good' that crushed the innocent and (temporarily) rewarded the guilty.

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* The precursor humans achieved perfect tolerance, even between gods that could crush them to bits. Except their all-loving peace didn't fit the gods' plans of a tormenting cycle of reincarnation to sustain the universe, so they ordered the Sura to ''murder them all''. Then the humans came back stronger than ever and even discovered a way to recover their past incarnations' memories, bearing miserable grudges for having everything taken from them through no sin of their own. The gods order everyone to ''shred their souls into fertilizer''. The new replacement species of humans is filled ''by design'' with shallow, selfish assholes, including their unrepentant serial killer [[spoiler:Asha]] (who they ''created''), and the gods are ''content'' because said assholes work well with their plans, for now. To those higher in caste and in power, your morality in this universe doesn't matter, only your utility to the 'greater good' that - which crushed the innocent and (temporarily) rewarded the guilty.



* And now we learn there's a second faction of gods who don't even like the universe, and want to destroy it so they can move on to the next one. The nihilism between the two factions using entire populations as pawns is nauseating.

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* And now we learn there's a second faction of gods who don't even like the universe, and want to destroy it so they can move on to the next one. The nihilism between the of two sociopathy-worshipping factions using entire populations as pawns is nauseating.

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* The precursor humans achieved perfect tolerance, even between gods that could crush them to bits. Except their all-loving peace didn't fit the gods' plans of a tormenting cycle of reincarnation to sustain the universe, so they ordered the Sura to ''murder them all''. Then they came back stronger than ever and even discovered a way to recover their past incarnations' memories, bearing miserable grudges for having everything taken from them through no sin of their own. The gods order everyone to ''shred their souls into fertilizer''. The new replacement species of humans is filled ''by design'' with shallow, selfish assholes, including the unrepentant serial killer Asha, and the gods are ''content'' because said assholes work well with their plans, for now. To those higher in caste and in power, your morality in this universe doesn't matter, only your utility to the 'greater good' that crushed the innocent and (temporarily) rewarded the guilty.

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* The precursor humans achieved perfect tolerance, even between gods that could crush them to bits. Except their all-loving peace didn't fit the gods' plans of a tormenting cycle of reincarnation to sustain the universe, so they ordered the Sura to ''murder them all''. Then they the humans came back stronger than ever and even discovered a way to recover their past incarnations' memories, bearing miserable grudges for having everything taken from them through no sin of their own. The gods order everyone to ''shred their souls into fertilizer''. The new replacement species of humans is filled ''by design'' with shallow, selfish assholes, including the their unrepentant serial killer Asha, [[spoiler:Asha]] (who they ''created''), and the gods are ''content'' because said assholes work well with their plans, for now. To those higher in caste and in power, your morality in this universe doesn't matter, only your utility to the 'greater good' that crushed the innocent and (temporarily) rewarded the guilty.


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* Sagara using her [[MakeThemRot Fatal Touch]] transcendental [[spoiler:makes Brilith ''rot alive.'' Readers are treated to several panels of [[NauseaFuel Brilith's flesh decomposing and sloughing off]].]]

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* Gandharva's berserk attack on Kalibloom. He ''completely flooded'' the lower half of the city when he [[spoiler:took his sura form, which dwarfs the city]]. Then, he destroyed the barrier by ''headbutting'' it. It's clear that no matter how great a magician like Asha is, there is no hope of defeating him.

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* Gandharva's berserk attack on Kalibloom. He ''completely flooded'' the lower half of the city when he [[spoiler:took took his sura form, which dwarfs the city]].city. Then, he destroyed the barrier by ''headbutting'' it. It's clear that no matter how great a magician like Asha is, there is no hope of defeating him.



** When Agni arrives, he notes that [[spoiler:this is the smallest he's ever seen Gandharva. That's right, the gigantic monster towering over the 9,000+ meter high Kalibloom is considered small.]]

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** When Agni arrives, he notes that [[spoiler:this this is the smallest he's ever seen Gandharva. That's right, the gigantic monster towering over the 9,000+ meter high Kalibloom is considered small.]]



* Yuta behavioral changes after reaching [[spoiler:his 3rd stage]]. His LackOfEmpathy becomes more pronounced, and he starts expressing the desire to kill Leez.
* Yuta loosing control and [[spoiler:eating Leez's face]].
* Claude's proposal on how to keep Yuta on the side of humanity: [[spoiler:to allow Yuta to repeatedly eat Leez because she's the reason he's there, and she can just regenerate anyway.]] Ran is [[OnlySaneMan understandably horrified]], but no one agrees with him because of the TheNeedsOfTheMany attitude that they all have.
* Asha is [[spoiler:a SerialKiller and has been since the age of ''ten''. She's killed over 60 people.]]
** [[spoiler:And then there's the way she killed them. She would use them to ''practice her spells''. She would use Hoti Visnu to resurrect them, reset her daily spell uses, and recover her vigor. She only stopped when she ran out of Hoti Visnu uses for the day.]]
* In the FlashbackArc of Asha's past on Carte. [[spoiler:Carte was flooded through its many water channels. So much, actually, that it changed the topology of the planet,]] and killed over twenty million people. THEN there were many, many [[spoiler: Red Sky incidents,]] as to kill [[spoiler:the survivors who fled to higher ground. Those apparently killed]] over four hundred thousand people. This was most likely done by two beings- [[spoiler:Maruna and Gandharva. That's right, a powerful Nastika/Rakshasa pair]] can ravage a whole planet in a few weeks' time, and that was when most of [[spoiler:Gandharva's]] skills were sealed- [[OhCrap Now he has access to them again.]] [[spoiler:[[GladHesOnOurSide Humans can be glad]] [[HeelFaceTurn he's on their side now...]]]]
** [[SarcasmMode Funnily enough]], the most horrific part isn't the numbers. [[spoiler: It's Asha's discovery of her mother's body. There's no visible blood when she arrives, her mom seems to be resting under a blanket, in what could be her room. Asha asks her to wake up, to no avail, but her uncle tries to stop her form touching her mother. She ignores him and reaches for the bed. Her startled face says it all. Without a word, she lifts the blanket, and [[OffWithHisHead there is no body, just a rolled up blanket to make it appear there is.]]]] [[UnableToCry Her reaction only makes it worse.]]
* Chapter 135: What happened with Leez and Asha on the transport ship: [[spoiler:Asha used Hoti Marut at a close range and ''cut Leez in half''.]]
** Asha uses the same spell to [[spoiler:[[KilledOffForReal kill Saha]] onscreen. In front of his fiancee. An it's drawn in its full gory glory. Doubles as a TearJerker, [[TakingTheBullet since he died pushing Lorraine out of the way]].]] Could also be FridgeBrilliance or FridgeHorror if you remember that WordOfGod [[SarcasmMode jokingly]] said Asha was trying to make the webtoon [[spoiler:R-rated.]]
* Visnu [[spoiler:isn't as benevolent as he initially appeared. In fact, he's downright amoral and manipulative. He clearly manipulated Asha into accepting his deal, and even if she's responsible for her own actions, he clearly tailored his words to influence her.]]

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* Yuta behavioral changes after reaching [[spoiler:his his 3rd stage]].stage. His LackOfEmpathy becomes more pronounced, and he starts expressing the desire to kill Leez.
* Yuta loosing control and [[spoiler:eating eating Leez's face]].
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* Claude's proposal on how to keep Yuta on the side of humanity: [[spoiler:to to allow Yuta to repeatedly eat Leez because she's the reason he's there, and she can just regenerate anyway.]] anyway. Ran is [[OnlySaneMan understandably horrified]], but no one agrees with him because of the TheNeedsOfTheMany attitude that they all have.
* Asha is [[spoiler:a a SerialKiller and has been since the age of ''ten''. She's killed over 60 people.]]
people.
** [[spoiler:And And then there's the way she killed them. She would use them to ''practice her spells''. She would use Hoti Visnu to resurrect them, reset her daily spell uses, and recover her vigor. She only stopped when she ran out of Hoti Visnu uses for the day.]]
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* In the FlashbackArc of Asha's past on Carte. [[spoiler:Carte Carte was flooded through its many water channels. So much, actually, that it changed the topology of the planet,]] planet, and killed over twenty million people. THEN there were many, many [[spoiler: Red Sky incidents,]] incidents, as to kill [[spoiler:the the survivors who fled to higher ground. Those apparently killed]] killed over four hundred thousand people. This was most likely done by two beings- [[spoiler:Maruna Maruna and Gandharva. That's right, a powerful Nastika/Rakshasa pair]] can ravage a whole planet in a few weeks' time, and that was when most of [[spoiler:Gandharva's]] Gandharva's skills were sealed- [[OhCrap Now he has access to them again.]] [[spoiler:[[GladHesOnOurSide [[GladHesOnOurSide Humans can be glad]] [[HeelFaceTurn he's on their side now...]]]]
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** [[SarcasmMode Funnily enough]], the most horrific part isn't the numbers. [[spoiler: It's Asha's discovery of her mother's body. There's no visible blood when she arrives, her mom seems to be resting under a blanket, in what could be her room. Asha asks her to wake up, to no avail, but her uncle tries to stop her form touching her mother. She ignores him and reaches for the bed. Her startled face says it all. Without a word, she lifts the blanket, and [[OffWithHisHead there is no body, just a rolled up blanket to make it appear there is.]]]] ]] [[UnableToCry Her reaction only makes it worse.]]
* Chapter 135: What happened with Leez and Asha on the transport ship: [[spoiler:Asha Asha used Hoti Marut at a close range and ''cut Leez in half''.]]
half''.
** Asha uses the same spell to [[spoiler:[[KilledOffForReal [[KilledOffForReal kill Saha]] onscreen. In front of his fiancee. An it's drawn in its full gory glory. Doubles as a TearJerker, [[TakingTheBullet since he died pushing Lorraine out of the way]].]] Could also be FridgeBrilliance or FridgeHorror if you remember that WordOfGod [[SarcasmMode jokingly]] said Asha was trying to make the webtoon [[spoiler:R-rated.]]
R-rated.
* Visnu [[spoiler:isn't isn't as benevolent as he initially appeared. In fact, he's downright amoral and manipulative. He clearly manipulated Asha into accepting his deal, and even if she's responsible for her own actions, he clearly tailored his words to influence her.]]



* When Maruna manages to reach the sura realm, he finds [[spoiler:chaos as what appears to be sura from allied clans battle it out.]] When he asks Akasha what's going on, and [[spoiler:where are the Garuda, she states she's the only one left who can fight]].
* During Agni and Chandra's discussion, they believe that the [[spoiler:Takara have overrun the Sura realm]] and devoured almost everyone there.
* Gandharva, when speaking to Maruna, implies that Kali is totally off her rocker and seeks the end of the universe. She's so bad apparently, she's been sealed over a hundred times over the history of the universe. [[spoiler:And she's currently sealed, which is why Chaos magic disappeared. That's right, all the shit Kali has caused recently, including the Taraka mess? ''She did it while sealed''.]]

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* When Maruna manages to reach the sura realm, he finds [[spoiler:chaos chaos as what appears to be sura from allied clans battle it out.]] out. When he asks Akasha what's going on, and [[spoiler:where are the Garuda, she states she's the only one left who can fight]].
* During Agni and Chandra's discussion, they believe that the [[spoiler:Takara Takara have overrun the Sura realm]] realm and devoured almost everyone there.
* Gandharva, when speaking to Maruna, implies that Kali is totally off her rocker and seeks the end of the universe. She's so bad apparently, she's been sealed over a hundred times over the history of the universe. [[spoiler:And And she's currently sealed, which is why Chaos magic disappeared. That's right, all the shit Kali has caused recently, including the Taraka mess? ''She did it while sealed''.]]


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* When Maruna encounters Garuda around the time of the Fiendish Magic Incident he leads his to believe he’s one of his dead older siblings. Garuda responds by trying to [[OffingTheOffspring kill Maruna]].
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* The precursor humans achieved perfect tolerance, even between gods that could crush them to bits. Except their all-loving peace didn't fit the gods' plans, so they ordered the Sura to ''murder them all''. Then they came back stronger than ever and even discovered a way to recover their past incarnations' memories. The gods order everyone to ''shred their souls into fertilizer''. The new species of humans is filled with shallow, selfish assholes, including the unrepentant serial killer Asha, and the gods are ''content'' because they work well with their plans, for now.

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* The precursor humans achieved perfect tolerance, even between gods that could crush them to bits. Except their all-loving peace didn't fit the gods' plans, plans of a tormenting cycle of reincarnation to sustain the universe, so they ordered the Sura to ''murder them all''. Then they came back stronger than ever and even discovered a way to recover their past incarnations' memories.memories, bearing miserable grudges for having everything taken from them through no sin of their own. The gods order everyone to ''shred their souls into fertilizer''. The new replacement species of humans is filled ''by design'' with shallow, selfish assholes, including the unrepentant serial killer Asha, and the gods are ''content'' because they said assholes work well with their plans, for now.now. To those higher in caste and in power, your morality in this universe doesn't matter, only your utility to the 'greater good' that crushed the innocent and (temporarily) rewarded the guilty.
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* The precursor humans achieved perfect tolerance, even between gods that could crush them to bits. Except their all-loving peace didn't fit the gods' plans, so they ordered the Sura to ''murder them all''. Then they came back stronger than ever and even discovered a way to recover their past incarnations' memories. The gods order everyone to ''shred their souls into fertilizer''. The new species of humans is filled with shallow, selfish assholes, including the unrepentant serial killer Asha, and the gods are ''content'' because they work well with their plans, for now.
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* Gandharva, when speaking to Maruna, implies that Kali is totally off her rocker and seeks the end of the universe. She's so bad apparently, she's been sealed over a hundred times over the history of the universe.

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* Gandharva, when speaking to Maruna, implies that Kali is totally off her rocker and seeks the end of the universe. She's so bad apparently, she's been sealed over a hundred times over the history of the universe. [[spoiler:And she's currently sealed, which is why Chaos magic disappeared. That's right, all the shit Kali has caused recently, including the Taraka mess? ''She did it while sealed''.]]
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* Emotional Resonance. If a Nastika king looses control of his emotions, the lesser sura and halfs go berserk. Halfs are just about everywhere; they have super strength and possibly transcendentals. They will attempt to kill anyone in this state, even friends and family.

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* Emotional Resonance. If a Nastika king looses loses control of his emotions, the lesser sura and halfs go berserk. Halfs are just about everywhere; they have super strength and possibly transcendentals. They will attempt to kill anyone in this state, even friends and family.
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* Take a long, hard look at Visnu... And, by extension, the other Primevals. [[spoiler:He didn't have to "find" somebody like Asha. He knew damned well where she was the whole time (time being the operative word). He also knew when she would be most easily influenced to walk the path he wanted her to ''from the age of ten''. Another terms for this are "grooming" or "brainwashing": no choice she has made, however reprehensible, has been entirely free... And, he guilt-tripped her into a lot of what she has become by using her own nature and what he could read of her against her. Note that he knew ''exactly'' what future she was giving up and who she would have been (growing up in a family with a father she could truly admire, as well as having Leez as a powerful younger sister she could play an important and much-needed support roll to would equal a very different Asha with different goals); ''she'' had no way to really know the true price at the point when she was persuaded to junk it all for something a lot grimmer for her. And, then there's how he played Gandharva and others over hundreds of centuries. That kind of psychological and physical power gap is ''scary''. Now, think of Yuta, the Garudas and his dear mother...]]

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* Take a long, hard look at Visnu... And, by extension, the other Primevals. [[spoiler:He didn't have to "find" somebody like Asha. Visnu [[spoiler:isn't as benevolent as he initially appeared. In fact, he's downright amoral and manipulative. He knew damned well where she was the whole time (time being the operative word). He also knew when she would be most easily influenced to walk the path he wanted her to ''from the age of ten''. Another terms for this are "grooming" or "brainwashing": no choice she has made, however reprehensible, has been entirely free... And, he guilt-tripped her clearly manipulated Asha into a lot of what she has become by using accepting his deal, and even if she's responsible for her own nature and what actions, he could read of her against her. Note that he knew ''exactly'' what future she was giving up and who she would have been (growing up in a family with a father she could truly admire, as well as having Leez as a powerful younger sister she could play an important and much-needed support roll to would equal a very different Asha with different goals); ''she'' had no way to really know the true price at the point when she was persuaded to junk it all for something a lot grimmer for her. And, then there's how he played Gandharva and others over hundreds of centuries. That kind of psychological and physical power gap is ''scary''. Now, think of Yuta, the Garudas and clearly tailored his dear mother...words to influence her.]]
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* During Agni and Chandra's discussion, they believe that the [[spoiler:Takara have overrun the Sura realm]] and devoured almost everyone there.
* Gandharva, when speaking to Maruna, implies that Kali is totally off her rocker and seeks the end of the universe. She's so bad apparently, she's been sealed over a hundred times over the history of the universe.
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* The Takara parasites: They've been infesting and taking control of sura from other clans, and stealing their power. If one were to get ahold of a nastika like Gandharva, which is an In-Universe concern, it'd be nigh unstoppable.
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* Take a long, hard look at Visnu... And, by extension, the other Primals. [[spoiler: He didn't have to "find" somebody like Asha. He knew damned well where she was the whole time (time being the operative word). He also knew when she would be most easily influenced to walk the path he wanted her to ''from the age of ten''. Another terms for this are "grooming" or "brainwashing": no choice she has made, however reprehensible, has been entirely free... And, he guilt tripped her into a lot of what she has become by using her own nature and what he could read of her against her. Note that he knew ''exactly'' what future she was giving up and who she would have been (growing up in a family with a father she could truly admire, as well as having Leez as a powerful younger sister she could play an important and much-needed support roll to would equal a very different Asha with different goals); ''she'' had no way to really know the true price at the point when she was persuaded to junk it all for something a lot grimmer for her. And, then there's how he played Gandharva and others over hundreds of centuries. That kind of psychological and physical power gap is ''scary''. Now, think of Yuta, the Garudas and his dear mother... Or, what the other two have been up to.]]

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* Take a long, hard look at Visnu... And, by extension, the other Primals. [[spoiler: He Primevals. [[spoiler:He didn't have to "find" somebody like Asha. He knew damned well where she was the whole time (time being the operative word). He also knew when she would be most easily influenced to walk the path he wanted her to ''from the age of ten''. Another terms for this are "grooming" or "brainwashing": no choice she has made, however reprehensible, has been entirely free... And, he guilt tripped guilt-tripped her into a lot of what she has become by using her own nature and what he could read of her against her. Note that he knew ''exactly'' what future she was giving up and who she would have been (growing up in a family with a father she could truly admire, as well as having Leez as a powerful younger sister she could play an important and much-needed support roll to would equal a very different Asha with different goals); ''she'' had no way to really know the true price at the point when she was persuaded to junk it all for something a lot grimmer for her. And, then there's how he played Gandharva and others over hundreds of centuries. That kind of psychological and physical power gap is ''scary''. Now, think of Yuta, the Garudas and his dear mother... Or, what the other two have been up to.]]
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* Take a long, hard look at Visnu... And, by extension, the other Primals. [[spoiler: He didn't have to "find" somebody like Asha. He knew damned well where she was the whole time (time being the operative word). He also knew when she would be most easily influenced to walk the path he wanted her to ''from the age of ten''. Another terms for this are "grooming" or "brainwashing": no choice she has made, however reprehensible, has been entirely free... And, he guilt tripped her into a lot of what she has become by using her own nature and what he could read of her. And, then there's how he played Gandharva and others over hundreds of centuries. That kind of psychological and physical power gap is ''scary''. Now, think of Yuta, the Garudas and his dear mother... Or, what the other two have been up to.]]

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* Take a long, hard look at Visnu... And, by extension, the other Primals. [[spoiler: He didn't have to "find" somebody like Asha. He knew damned well where she was the whole time (time being the operative word). He also knew when she would be most easily influenced to walk the path he wanted her to ''from the age of ten''. Another terms for this are "grooming" or "brainwashing": no choice she has made, however reprehensible, has been entirely free... And, he guilt tripped her into a lot of what she has become by using her own nature and what he could read of her against her. Note that he knew ''exactly'' what future she was giving up and who she would have been (growing up in a family with a father she could truly admire, as well as having Leez as a powerful younger sister she could play an important and much-needed support roll to would equal a very different Asha with different goals); ''she'' had no way to really know the true price at the point when she was persuaded to junk it all for something a lot grimmer for her. And, then there's how he played Gandharva and others over hundreds of centuries. That kind of psychological and physical power gap is ''scary''. Now, think of Yuta, the Garudas and his dear mother... Or, what the other two have been up to.]]
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* Take a long, hard look at Visnu... And, by extension, the other Primals. [[spoiler: He didn't have to "find" somebody like Asha. He knew damned well where she was the whole time (time being the operative word). He also knew when she would be most easily influenced to walk the path he wanted her to ''from the age of ten''. Another terms for this are "grooming" or "brainwashing": no choice she has made, however reprehensible, has been entirely free... And, he guilt tripped her into a lot of what she has become by using her own nature and what he could read of her. And, then there's how he played Gandharva and others over hundreds of centuries. That kind of psychological and physical power gap is ''scary''. Now, think of Yuta, the Garudas and his dear mother... Or, what the other two have been up to.]]

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* Hoti Yama; it is an ''execution'' spell. The victim's lifespan is eaten up within 24 hours, and it affects ''everything'' within a certain radius, and sura are only immure because they are they TheAgeless. Not even the caster is protected, and has to remove the spell.



* In Yuta's introductory arc, a trio of slavers strike down the Half he's rescuing. Yuta's immediately enraged and thinks (recalling his promise to [[ParentalSubstitute Shuri]]) he won't eat them, ''he'll chew them up and spit them out''.

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* In Yuta's introductory arc, ''Half'', a trio of slavers strike down the Half he's rescuing. Yuta's immediately enraged and thinks (recalling his promise to [[ParentalSubstitute Shuri]]) he won't eat them, ''he'll chew them up and spit them out''.




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* When Agwen encounters Yuta, all she sees is a potentially hostile Half with a god-level item in a blood-spattered clearing. When she tries to peacefully restrain him, her magic doesn't work. She clearly felt she was in danger.



* In chapter 135, we find out just what happened with Leez and Asha on the transport ship: [[spoiler:Asha used Hoti Marut at a close range and ''cut Leez in half''.]]
** Asha using the same move to [[spoiler:[[KilledOffForReal kill Saha]] onscreen. In front of his fiancee. An it's drawn in its full gory glory. Doubles as a TearJerker, [[TakingTheBullet since he died pushing Lorraine out of the way]].]] Could also be FridgeBrilliance or FridgeHorror if you remember that WordOfGod [[SarcasmMode jokingly]] said Asha was trying to make the webtoon [[spoiler:R-rated.]]

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* In chapter 135, we find out just what Chapter 135: What happened with Leez and Asha on the transport ship: [[spoiler:Asha used Hoti Marut at a close range and ''cut Leez in half''.]]
** Asha using uses the same move spell to [[spoiler:[[KilledOffForReal kill Saha]] onscreen. In front of his fiancee. An it's drawn in its full gory glory. Doubles as a TearJerker, [[TakingTheBullet since he died pushing Lorraine out of the way]].]] Could also be FridgeBrilliance or FridgeHorror if you remember that WordOfGod [[SarcasmMode jokingly]] said Asha was trying to make the webtoon [[spoiler:R-rated.]]

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