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* A subplot in the Fighters Guild questline in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion'' involves the weak leadership of the current guildmaster, who has fallen into passive despair after many guild members, including her own eldest son, were massacred by the rival Blackwood Company. Second-in-command Modryn Owen attempts to fix this problem by trying to shape her younger son Viranus into the leader the Fighters Guild desperately needs and does so by sending the young man on increasingly dangerous missions. [[spoiler: Unfortunately, a hero Viranus is not; he's a nice enough boy, but unconfident and heavily coddled by his mother and not remotely prepared for the real world. The first time, you're there to save him. The second time, you aren't, and he dies in a hauntingly similar fashion to his brother.]] The tragedy is that Viranus's journal reveals he is very aware of his own shortcomings, suspecting (not incorrectly) that everyone vastly preferred his older brother, and doubting if he's even worthy of being a Fighters Guld member.
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* Unlike his [[DirtyCop corrupt comic counterpart]], the Gillian Loeb of ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'' is an honest cop. However, despite this AdaptationalHeroism, he's actually unable to do anything to stop the corruption in the GCPD, isn't prepared for the likes of the League of Shadows and the Joker, and [[spoiler:is ultimately killed by the Joker, allowing for Gordon to take over as Commissioner and clean house]].
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* Alain from ''VideoGame/UnicornOverlord'' can make his chosen romantic partner his queen should they and their allies manage to save Fevrith. But while some of his potential paramours make for wonderful co-rulers, even several of the eccentric ones, a number of them turn out to be rather bad at helping him run the kingdom.
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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn'', Pelleas, heir to the throne of Daein, is a well-intentioned youth who strives to free his country from Begnion's oppression. Despite having not known of his parentage until somewhat recently, he tries his best to lead his people, but due to his mild personality and inexperience in warfare he's got some pretty big shoes to fill, and he knows it. As such, he ends up deferring to his mother and advisor on all matters. Unfortunately, this prevents him from being the strong leader the revolution needs and, were it not for Micaiah's efforts, the rebellion likely would've ended in disaster. After becoming King at the end of Part 1, things look like they might improve... except [[spoiler:his trusted advisor betrays him by tricking him into signing a blood pact with Begnion and then vanishing. This ends up putting the lives of the entire country of Daein into jeopardy if he doesn't follow Begnion's orders to the letter, with no way of knowing how to stop it.]] He struggles to deal with this on his own throughout most of Part 3, but by the time he finally confides with Micaiah on what's really going on and is able to find a solution shortly after, Ike's army is right on their doorstep. And to make matters worse, [[spoiler:his solution, killing a pact-bearer (i.e. himself), is only half of what needs to be done, and just results in him dying for nothing. This is the only fate for him on one's first run through the game, but on a second playthrough Micaiah can stop the sacrifice, allowing him to survive and fight alonside the army.]] It's somewhat telling in that, should he survive to the end of the game, [[spoiler: he willingly abdicates the throne to Micaiah and serves as an advisor on her court, a role far more suited to him.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemRadiantDawn'', Pelleas, heir to the throne of Daein, is a well-intentioned youth who strives to free his country from Begnion's oppression. Despite having not known of his parentage until somewhat recently, he tries his best to lead his people, but due to his mild personality and inexperience in warfare he's got some pretty big shoes to fill, and he knows it. As such, he ends up deferring to his mother and advisor on all matters. Unfortunately, this prevents him from being the strong leader the revolution needs and, were it not for Micaiah's efforts, the rebellion likely would've ended in disaster. After becoming King at the end of Part 1, things look like they might improve... except [[spoiler:his trusted advisor betrays him by tricking him into signing a blood pact with Begnion and then vanishing. This ends up putting the lives of the entire country of Daein into jeopardy if he doesn't follow Begnion's orders to the letter, with no way of knowing how to stop it.]] He struggles to deal with this on his own throughout most of Part 3, but by the time he finally confides with Micaiah on what's really going on and is able to find a solution shortly after, Ike's army is right on their doorstep. And to make matters worse, [[spoiler:his solution, killing a pact-bearer (i.e. himself), is only half of what needs to be done, and just results in him dying for nothing. This is the only fate for him on one's first run through the game, but on a second playthrough Micaiah can stop the sacrifice, allowing him to survive and fight alonside alongside the army.]] It's somewhat telling in that, should he survive to the end of the game, [[spoiler: he willingly abdicates the throne to Micaiah and serves as an advisor on her court, a role far more suited to him.]]

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* King Elhokar of ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'' is a bad king, and painfully aware of it. He lacks the force of personality of his father Gavilar, focuses more on hunting chasmfiends than trying to win the war with the Parshendi, and is paranoid to the point of seeing assassins in every shadow. He wants to be a good king, and is contrasted with his uncle Dalinar, who does not want to be king, but borders on usurping Elhokar by total accident simply because he is respected and a skilled leader in ways that Elhokar is not.

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* King Elhokar of ''Literature/TheStormlightArchive'' is a bad king, and painfully aware of it. He lacks the force of personality of his father Gavilar, focuses more on hunting chasmfiends than trying to win the war with the Parshendi, and is paranoid to the point of seeing assassins in every shadow. He wants to be a good king, and is contrasted with his uncle Dalinar, who does not want to be king, but borders on usurping Elhokar by total accident simply because he is respected and a skilled leader in ways that Elhokar is not. It's deconstructed as the series goes on, where it becomes clear he really does have the ''potential'' to be great beneath the surface, he's just better in a subordinate role. [[spoiler:Sadly, right when he begins coming into his own and reaching that potential, he's assassinated.]]
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* The ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'' fic "[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/328722/1/Something-to-Celebrate Something to Celebrate]]" features Admiral Owen Paris musing that he is basically a minor, relatively harmless version of this. While he never doubted that he would reach the rank of admiral as he has "an admiral's temperament", able to delegate authority to competent people and trust that they will carry out his orders, Owen was always aware that he wasn't going to be the kind of admiral who would make history or leave a lasting impression. He contrasts this with his thoughts on his son's abilities as a potential commander, musing that Tom had the kind of natural leadership style that would make it easier for him to make a more significant impression.
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeARealAmericanHero'' episode "The Most Dangerous Thing in the World", Cobra attempts to destroy G.I. Joe by getting the three Joes least suited to lead the organization promoted into leadership roles, causing chaos. When General Hawk returns to sort things out and fix everything, he points out that some people have the desire to lead but not the ability (referring to GeneralFailure Dial-Tone), some people have the ability to lead but not the desire (referring to the BrilliantButLazy Lifeline), and some truly exceptional(ly disasterous) people have neither the ability nor the desire (referring to TheCaligula Shipwreck).

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/GIJoeARealAmericanHero'' episode "The Most Dangerous Thing in the World", Cobra attempts to destroy G.I. Joe by getting the three Joes least suited to lead the organization promoted into leadership roles, causing chaos. When General Hawk returns to sort things out and fix everything, he points out that some people have the desire to lead but not the ability (referring to GeneralFailure Dial-Tone), some people have the ability to lead but not the desire (referring to the BrilliantButLazy Lifeline), and some truly exceptional(ly disasterous) disastrous) people have neither the ability nor the desire (referring to TheCaligula Shipwreck).
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** Being smart enough to realize they aren't fit for their new posts, Bonton and Manootensyon are trying to find someone who ''is'', and, in Manootensyon's case, grow a high-caste scientist who can just recreate an emperor, a group of generals and the necessary scientists. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption Manootensyon isn't good enough to create a proper high-cast scientist and grew him stupider than himself]] [[spoiler:(or, rather, just as smart as he should have been, but [[WhiteSheep good]]. And, knowing they'd kill him if they found out before he came up with a plan to neutralize the others without killing them, [[ObfuscatingStupidity he feigned being an idiot]])]], and Bonton's wish to find a proper superior leads him to [[spoiler:hands command over to ''Paperinik'' [[BavarianFireDrill when he says he's a representative of an Evronian emperor]]]].

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** Being smart enough to realize they aren't fit for their new posts, Bonton and Manootensyon are trying to find someone who ''is'', and, in Manootensyon's case, grow a high-caste scientist who can just recreate an emperor, a group of generals and the necessary scientists. [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption Manootensyon isn't good enough to create a proper high-cast high-caste scientist and grew him stupider than himself]] [[spoiler:(or, rather, just as smart as he should have been, but [[WhiteSheep good]]. And, knowing they'd kill him if they found out before he came up with a plan to neutralize the others without killing them, [[ObfuscatingStupidity he feigned being an idiot]])]], and Bonton's wish to find a proper superior leads him to [[spoiler:hands command over to ''Paperinik'' [[BavarianFireDrill when he says he's a representative of an Evronian emperor]]]].

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