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* Umbaccano in ''TheElderScrolls'', but particularly in ''{{Oblivion}}'', where he actually plays a role bigger than being mentioned or just showing up in a short cutscene with no lines. The fact that the (good) Emperor spends the entire game dead in Uriel's case or not actually taken the throne [[spoiler:and later AscendedToAHigherPlaneOfExistance]] in Martin's probably helps.
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* Salah ad-Din. Wise leader to the Arabs. WorthyOpponent to the Crusaders. Vizier. MostTriumphantExample?
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* Chinese myth has a few but two stand out, Zhuge Liang (courtesy name Kong Ming) from the semi-historical RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms and Jiang Ziya from Canonization of the Deities.
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* The various Hands of the King in ''ASongOfIceAndFire'' all seem to be this. Jon Arryn and Ned Stark work very hard to support the rule of King Robert, while Tyrion and Tywin did the same for Joffrey. The only possible exception is the aforementioned Tywin, who helped depose the mad King Aerys, but only after he'd resigned.
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** Not really, since he declared independence from Nur-ad-Din, Emir of Damascus (the guy he was supposed to be a general/vizier to) as soon as he had taken control of Egypt. He was nice enough not to try and off the Emir (as would a real EvilChancellor), but he also wasn't given much of a chance: Nur-ad-Din suddenly died while making preparations to attack Saladin, while Nur-ad-Din's son was still just a kid, killed two years later [[CainAndAbel by henchmen of his cousin, the Emir of Mosul]].
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* Although he's part of a board of directors instead of a royal court, Reeve Tuesti of ''FinalFantasyVII'' fits this role to a T. He struggles for a while between [[ToBeLawfulOrGood following orders and doing what's best for the people of his city and the world at large]], and eventually [[HeelFaceTurn chooses to be on the side of the good guys]].
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** Prospero to ConanTheBarbarian as well.
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* Maio of Bari, the 'amiratus amiratorum' ('emir of emirs' or 'admiral of admirals') and Chancellor of Sicily in the 1150s, was either a Good Chancellor or an EvilChancellor, depending on who you listen to. According to the mysterious chronicler known only as Hugo Falcandus, Maio made public speeches to the effect that if Sicily's king, William I, ordered anything barbarous or cruel, Maio would countermand the orders - making him a Good Chancellor. Amusingly, Falcandus uses these supposed speeches to illustrate that Maio was actually an EvilChancellor, grasping after the king's power.
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*** Well some of us would even today consider it lacking in propriety. But hurting the dynasties reputation could cause civil war in those days.
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*Police Commissioner Frank Reagan in BlueBloods is a very good example of this. He is sternly incorruptible and has an air of gravitas that reminds one of an idealized Roman Magistrate.
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* In RobertEHoward's King {{Kull}} stories, Kull's vizier Tu fits this trope, helping the mighty but savage warrior navigate the dangerous complexities of royal tradition and Valusia's DeadlyDecadentCourt.
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* Theoretical position of England's Prime Minister. Prime and grand mean the same thing and vizier and minister mean the same. So WinstonChurchill, for instance was the "grand vizier" of TheBritishEmpire. Go figure.
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* In the [[HorusHeresy past]] of Warhammer40000, Malcador the Sigillite. The Emperor's right-hand man and regent when away from Terra, he is the greatest politician and administrator of all time as the Emperor is the [[PsychicPowers greatest]] [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking everything]] [[EmperorScientist else]].
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* In one sample campaign in {{Gurps}} ''Arabian Nights'', there is an NPC whom everyone thinks is an EvilChancellor but is really a GoodChancellor.
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[[TheGoodChancellor Good Chancellor.]]
** There's also a description of how to make a good vizier in the character creation section, but with a caveat that the Evil GrandVizier is an expected trope of the genre...
** There's also a description of how to make a good vizier in the character creation section, but with a caveat that the Evil GrandVizier is an expected trope of the genre...
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** The Rivan Brands are the deliberate homage to his in David Eddings's ''{{Belgariad}}''.
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** The Rivan Brands Warders, always named Brand, are the a deliberate homage to his this in David Eddings's ''{{Belgariad}}''.
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As the EvilChancellor is a plotting to control the kingdom by ursurping power, the Good Chancellor serves his kingdom or nation with utmost fervour. He follows the King's orders to the letter if the King is noble, and tries to mitigate the suffering of his people if the King's intentions are of the bad kind. Rarely would they be seen actively opposing the King's actions since as a LawfulGood person, they must not let ideas like rebellion or jealousy get in the way of running the kingdom in the king's name. This often does not sit well with some rebels whom sees him as a moderate and thus must lose his head for being a supposedly YesMan to the king they want on a pike.
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As the EvilChancellor is a plotting to control the kingdom by ursurping usurping power, the Good Chancellor serves his kingdom or nation with utmost fervour. He follows the King's orders to the letter if the King is noble, and tries to mitigate the suffering of his people if the King's intentions are of the bad kind. Rarely would they be seen actively opposing the King's actions since as a LawfulGood person, they must not let ideas like rebellion or jealousy get in the way of running the kingdom in the king's name. This often does not sit well with some rebels whom sees him as a moderate and thus must lose his head for being a supposedly YesMan to the king they want on a pike.
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* General Afir, in ''{{Mom and Dad Save The World}}''. He is notable in that, while his evil boss (along with everyone else on the planet) is an idiot, he's reasonably competent ''and'' isn't all that interested in destroying the Earth.
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* General Afir, Afir in ''{{Mom and Dad Save The World}}''. He is notable in that, while his evil boss (along with everyone else on the planet) is an idiot, he's reasonably competent ''and'' isn't all that interested in destroying the Earth.
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* In ''TheLordOfTheRings'', the Stewards of Gondor have as their proudest boast that they never made themselves kings, and ruled the city strictly in the name of the King until an Heir to the Throne returned. Even Denethor, as crazy as he was, never tried to claim the throne.
* In the original ''ArabianNights'' stories, [[GrandVizierJafar Jafar]], Vizier to the Caliph Harun al-Rashid, is portrayed as one of these... at least until he is executed for sleeping with the Caliph's sister.
* In the original ''ArabianNights'' stories, [[GrandVizierJafar Jafar]], Vizier to the Caliph Harun al-Rashid, is portrayed as one of these... at least until he is executed for sleeping with the Caliph's sister.
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* In ''TheLordOfTheRings'', the Stewards of Gondor have as their proudest boast that they never made themselves kings, and ruled the city strictly in the name of the King until an Heir heir to the Throne throne returned. Even Denethor, as crazy as he was, never tried to claim the throne.
* In the original ''ArabianNights'' stories, [[GrandVizierJafar Jafar]],Vizier vizier to the Caliph Harun al-Rashid, is portrayed as one of these... at least until he is executed for sleeping with the Caliph's sister. caliph's sister.
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* In ''[[{{Discworld}} Interesting Times]]'', Twoflower ends up as the Prime Minister of the Agatean Empire, replacing an Evil Chancellor. Discworld runs on narrativium, but luckily Twoflower seems to be GenreBlind.
** His Genre Blindness is ''why'' he was appointed. Cohen asked him "Do you know anything about Grand-Viziering", he said no, and Cohen said "good, you get the job." The implication is that someone who ''did'' know about it would become evil. (Also, Twoflower isn't GenreBlind. He's WrongGenreSavvy. He thinks he's in a heroic fantasy, not a CrapsackWorld satire.)
** His Genre Blindness is ''why'' he was appointed. Cohen asked him "Do you know anything about Grand-Viziering", he said no, and Cohen said "good, you get the job." The implication is that someone who ''did'' know about it would become evil. (Also, Twoflower isn't GenreBlind. He's WrongGenreSavvy. He thinks he's in a heroic fantasy, not a CrapsackWorld satire.)
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* In ''[[{{Discworld}} Interesting Times]]'', Twoflower ends up as the Prime Minister of the Agatean Empire, replacing an Evil Chancellor. evil chancellor, despite not knowing what to do. Discworld runs on narrativium, but luckily Twoflower seems to be GenreBlind.
** His Genre Blindness is ''why'' he was appointed. Cohen asked him "Do you know anything about Grand-Viziering", he said no, and Cohen said "good, you get the job." Thenarrativium (the implication is that someone who ''did'' know about it would become evil. (Also, evil), but luckily Twoflower isn't GenreBlind. He's WrongGenreSavvy. He is WrongGenreSavvy: he thinks he's in a heroic fantasy, not a CrapsackWorld satire.)
** His Genre Blindness is ''why'' he was appointed. Cohen asked him "Do you know anything about Grand-Viziering", he said no, and Cohen said "good, you get the job." The
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* In ''{{Fallout}} 3'', Scribe Rothchild can be seen as the Good Chancellor to the Lyon's Pride. He is the one whom knows about the nitty gritty details of fighting the Enclave.
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*Archduke Norris in {{Traveller}}
*In one sample campaign in {{Gurps}} ''Arabian Nights'', there is an NPC whom everyone thinks is an EvilChancellor but is really a GoodChancellor.
*Archduke Norris in {{Traveller}}
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*** In his defense, he ''is'' {{Undead}} at that point...
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* In the original ''ArabianNights'' stories, Jafar, [[GrandVizierJafar Jafar]], Vizier to the Caliph, Caliph Harun al-Rashid, is portrayed as one of these... at least until he is executed for sleeping with the Caliph's sister.
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* [[ElderlyImmortal Apus Major]] in ''DragonQuestIX''. Although Zenus and Celestria are the two technical leaders of the [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Celestrians]], [[HaveYouSeenMyGod they have long since disappeared]]. Apus Major leads the Celestrians in their stead, but fortunately he is extremely loyal to the gods and a [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure generally fair-minded ruler]].
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* In ''Series\Tin Man'' Ambrose is all over this trope and has the exact same position in the [[spoiler: Ozian court as his Scarecrow counterpart]]. When the {{Mooks}} march into the Queen's garden, he literally stands between them and his Queen, ready to die for her. [[spoiler: Of course, is isn't killed, but he is given a alchemical lobotomy and tossed into the wild, taking the name "Glitch." His loyalty and service to the Queen is one of the very few things he will never forget.]]
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* In ''Series\Tin Man'' ''Series/TinMan'' Ambrose is all over this trope and has the exact same position in the [[spoiler: Ozian court as his Scarecrow counterpart]]. When the {{Mooks}} march into the Queen's garden, he literally stands between them and his Queen, ready to die for her. [[spoiler: Of course, is isn't killed, but he is given a alchemical lobotomy and tossed into the wild, taking the name "Glitch." His loyalty and service to the Queen is one of the very few things he will never forget.]]
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* In ''Tin Man'' Ambrose is all over this trope [[spoiler: and has the exact same position in the Ozian court as his Scarecrow counterpart]]. When the EvilLeigons march into the Queen's garden, he literally stands between them and his Queen, ready to die for her. [[spoiler: Of course, is isn't killed, but he is given a alchemical lobotomy and tossed into the wild, taking the name "Glitch." His loyalty and service to the Queen is one of the very few things he will not forget.]]
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* In ''Tin ''Series\Tin Man'' Ambrose is all over this trope [[spoiler: trope and has the exact same position in the [[spoiler: Ozian court as his Scarecrow counterpart]]. When the EvilLeigons {{Mooks}} march into the Queen's garden, he literally stands between them and his Queen, ready to die for her. [[spoiler: Of course, is isn't killed, but he is given a alchemical lobotomy and tossed into the wild, taking the name "Glitch." His loyalty and service to the Queen is one of the very few things he will not never forget.]]
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