History Main / Scotireland

* Both exemplified and averted in the case of [[RugbyUnion rugby union]]. Since 2001, Scotland and Ireland have shared a top-level professional league, now known as [=Pro12=][[note]]from the number of teams[[/note]], with fellow Celtic nation Wales. Averted in 2011 when two teams from Italy joined the league.

* The historical kingdom of Dál Riata was a literal Scotireland.

* SonsOfAnarchy - Chibs is referred to as a Scot and played by Scottish actor Tommy Flanagan, but apparently was raised in Belfast. This would be less jarring had Flanagan had even a hint of a Northern Irish accent, but he plays Chibs with his thick-as-mud Glaswegian tones on full blast.

It's worth noting that there is a long history of cultural exchange between Ireland and Scotland, to the point that Scots-Gaelic and Irish Gaelic are considered mutually intelligible languages, and a good chunk of the [[StrokeCountry Northern Irish]] population is descended from Scottish "planters", so the trope is somewhat rooted in fact, albeit loosely.

* The historical kingdom of Dal Riata was a literal Scotireland.

* Scotland actually derives its English name from what the Romans originally called it; Scotia Minor with Ireland then being known as Scotia Major. This Trope was relatively true right up into the middle ages, where the scholars spoke a common language and there was a rather blurred border between the two, with Robert the Bruce even trying to unite them into a common kingdom. However as the reformation and contact with the English took hold differently in both nations, the two cultures have long since diverged.

* In ''FindingForrester'', at the end Forrester (Sean Connery) tells his young friend Jamal that he's going back to his homeland.

* In ''TheCryingGame'' Northern Irish terrorist Fergus initially tells Londoner Dil that he is Scottish, and Dil appears to believe him. Possibly justified in that London has a wide variety of accents and Dil, being young and perhaps inexperienced, might not have known the difference.
* ''25thHour'' and ''TheDeparted'' are particularly bad as both feature Irish-American storylines yet include rousing renditions of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland_the_Brave 'Scotland the Brave']].

* A 1983 ''{{SCTV}}'' sketch featured Dave Thomas as an angry Scottish cooking-show host, using the same catchphrase as the Myers sketch ("If it's not Scottish, it's crap!").

* A 1983 sketch by Dave Thomas appeared on ''{{SCTV}}'' featuring an angry Scotsman as a cooking show host, but he using the same catchphrase as the Myers sketch ("If it's not Scottish, it's crap!").

* In cult British stop-motion animated series ''PortlandBill'', the action is clearly taking place ''somewhere'' on the coast of the Irish Sea. As noted in RealLife below, there's been enough intermarrying and cross-colonisation over the centuries that the differences in accent are quite subtle.

* In a meta sense, ''Film/TheUntouchables'', where Sean Connery plays an Irish cop using his real accent, and it's never addressed. This is, however, [[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent rather common for Connery]].

* In ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' Crowley was a Scottish human before he was an English demon (it gets worse) and the other demons call him Lucky the Leprechaun... Leprechauns are from Ireland...

* Miner Smurf of ''TheSmurfs'' is spoken of as having either an Irish or a Scottish accent, which isn't helped by the fact that his voice actor would also do [[WesternAnimation/DuckTales Scrooge McDuck]].

* Miner Smurf of ''TheSmurfs'' is spoken of as having either an Irish or a Scottish accent.

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** Silver Banshee from ''{{Superman}}'' is ''literally'' from Scotireland; when the writers realised they'd based a Scottish character on Irish mythology, they claimed Siobhan [=McDougal=] was actually from a fictional island in the Straits of Moyle. Surprisingly the DCNew52 version of Silver Banshee drops the Scottish connection entirely and retcons Siobhan as coming from Dublin.

* Wolfsbane from ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'' is supposed to be Scottish, but her accent and culture switch back and forth between Irish and Scottish.
** Moira [=McTaggart=] has this same problem.
* Silver Banshee from ''{{Superman}}'' is ''literally'' from Scotireland; when the writers realised they'd based a Scottish character on Irish mythology, they claimed Siobhan [=McDougal=] was actually from a fictional island in the Straits of Moyle.
** Though there's an awful lot of overlap between Scottish and Irish mythology (or rather, there's no vaguely unified Scottish mythology, and a significant chunk of Irish mythology is shared with or even set in Scotland). Banshees (with different spellings and pronunciations outside of English) exist in both.
** Suprisingly the DCNew52 version of Silver Banshee drops the Scottish connection entirely and retcons Siobhan as coming from Dublin.

* In the ''G.I. Joe'' movie, the Scottish villain has programmed his missile to respond to commands in Irish.
** Was it not in "Gaelic"? Which could make sense as it describes the family of Irish/Scottish/Manx languages.
** Actually it was "Celtic". Because that's definitely a language.
* In ''TheCryingGame'' Irish terrorist Fergus initially tells Londoner Dil that he is Scottish, and Dil appears to believe him. Possibly justified in that London has a wide variety of accents and Dil, being young and perhaps inexperienced, might not have known the difference.
** Somewhat justified in that the Irish accents found in the north of Ireland (where Fergus is from) are very close to Scottish due to the large amount of Scottish Protestant people who settled there during the Ulster Plantation several hundred years ago.

** Scotland the Brave is one of the first songs that a bagpipe student learns, and is therefore a staple of pipe bands. It's not uncommon to hear it played during St. Patrick's Day parades, so its presence at the police academy graduation in The Departed is not completely out of the blue.

** One episode had the Scottish Sheena Easton playing an Irish Immortal.

** The Myers bit was based heavily (cough cough) on a sketch by Dave Thomas that appeared on ''{{SCTV}}''. His angry Scotsman was a cooking show host, but he used the same catchphrase - in 1983.
*** And that skit was based on the common Canadian stereotype of the Scotsman as an angry complainer whose accent is so strong that nobody's exactly sure what he's angry about. See [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Webster Jack Webster]] for the RealLife UrExample.

** The entire scene was basically a TakeThat at [[EagleLand Americans]].
*** And Bernard retaliates by calling them Australian. An Irish person being called Scottish is relative to an American being referred to as Australian. And then there's being related to the English, which is on par with (or possibly worse) American - Canadian, and is [[BerserkButton always an invitation to a fight]].
**** Referring to an Australian as an American is almost as dangerous

** It is worth noting (and Ferguson has noted it multiple times) that he is ¼ Irish. His accent is still Scottish, though.
* In an episode of ''{{Seinfeld}}'', Jerry and George end up sharing a limousine with a couple of Neo-Nazis. Jerry pretends to be Irish, reminiscing about things such as ''"the peat, ah, the peat"''. However, his accent comes across as Scottish to one of the Nazis, to which Jerry replies: ''"We were living around the border"''.
** Jerry's attempt to do a Scottish accent ends with him saying, "Scotland, Ireland? What's the difference, lassie?"

* Similar to the above example, in ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' Crowley was a Scottish human before he was an English demon (it gets worse) and the other demons call him Lucky the Leprechaun... Leprechauns are from Ireland...
** To be fair, Bobby actually points out the other demons' stupidity on the whole Scotland/Ireland thing. And it's possible that it's only Crowley's host that's English-- being possessed doesn't seem to change a host's voice.

** And the surname "Scott" is most commonly found in the English Border area (and occasionally in Ireland).
*** Possibly justified in that 23rd century Earth allows for near-instant commuting from San Francisco to New Orleans. With less of a barrier to travel, Accents are bound to start muddling.
** James Doohan was well known for his skill with accents, and took on the Scots accent at the request of Roddenberry. How much of the story is complaining to complain is up to the reader.
* SonsOfAnarchy - Chibs is referred to as a Sco and played by Scottish actor Tommy Flanagan, but apparently was raised in Belfast. This would be less jarring had Flanagan had even a hint of a Northern Irish accent, but he plays Chibs with his thick-as-mud Glaswegian tones on full blast.

* [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Highland_Bagpipe Scottish bagpipes]] play a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixolydian_mode Mixolydian mode]] scale, while [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uilleann_pipes Irish bagpipes]] play a full two octaves. This means that it's easier to write melodic sounding "Scottish bagpipe" music using Irish bagpipes.
** The ''Film/{{Braveheart}}'' soundtrack explicitly used Irish bagpipes despite being set in Scotland specifically due to this issue - the composer wasn't able to get a sound he liked from Scottish pipes (some the movie was filmed in Ireland too).
*** Despite ''Braveheart'''s [[AnachronismStew approach to]] [[HollywoodHistory history]], the soundtrack in this respect is actually [[RealityIsUnrealistic fairly accurate]]. The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_smallpipes smallpipes]] in use at the time would have sounded much more like Irish pipes than the Great Highland Bagpipes [[AnachronismStew depicted in the scene]]. The Great Pipes were designed [[NewerThanTheyThink for the British Army's Highland Regiments recruited in the late eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries]].

** [[BerserkButton Yes...Tell]] [[TheIrishDiaspora your friends]], [[DeadlyPrank indeed]].

* VideoGame/ValkyriaChronicles features a recruitable sniper named Catherine O'Hara. While it's never stated that she's from the game's alternate universe versions of Ireland or Scotland, her accent veers dramatically between the two whenever she speaks.
** For what it's worth 'O'Hara' is very definitely an Irish rather than Scottish name, associated as it is with Sligo and being an anglicisation of 'Ó hEaghra'.

* Cult British stop-motion animated series ''PortlandBill'' is a rare justified example, as the action is clearly taking place ''somewhere'' on the coast of the Irish Sea. As noted in RealLife below, there's been engough intermarrying and cross-colonisation over the centuries that the differences in accent are quite subtle.
* Borderline Example: Sheogorath, the Daedric Prince of Madness in Franchise/TheElderScrolls series has an Irish accent when calm, and a Scottish accent when excited.
* The Celtic civilization in ''VideoGame/AgeOfEmpiresII'' is a case of this. Units speak Irish Gaelic and the Celtic wonder is the Rock of Cashel in Ireland, but their unique unit is the Woad Raider, an unit based on the Picts of Ancient Scotland, and their civilization bonuses in siege, fast infantry and [[MightyLumberjack wood]] [[BoringButPractical gathering]] are inspired by ''Medieval'' Scotland. Finally, the playable Celtic campaign deals with William Wallace's rebellion.

* ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' manages to avert this a fair bit in the episodes where they visit Ireland and (modern) Scotland. One of the principal settings ''is'' an old Scottish castle...
** Even though in the flashbacks to old times, some of the voices came out sounding more Irish.
** Also, they should be speaking Gaelic. [[TranslationConvention But...]]

** And if it had been, Prince John would have been the Prince of Wales.

** That could help with the tourism industry if we explain (s)he's just hiding over here then.
** In fairness, the sons of Usnach went into exile on the shores of Loch Ness.

* The Scots and Irish are not only both Celtic, but they are also both Gaelic, as is the Isle of Man. Thus, Scottish and Irish culture and language are very similar, with the Gaels originating in Ireland. The other (extant) group of Celts are the Brythonics, who inhabit Wales, Brittany and Cornwall.
** Indeed, this is what the page quote is talking about. You see, the land now called Scotland was formerly inhabited by the Picts, who spoke a language that was, if not Brythonic, than closely related to to the Brythonic.[[note]]We think. There are very few written records of Pictish, chiefly because the Romans--the only ones in the area whose writing system could be adapted to almost any language--never managed to conquer the Picts and indeed built a wall in frustration: the Roman equivalent of saying "Screw you guys, I'm going home" when it came to dealing with "barbarians."[[/note]] Around the time of the collapse of the Roman Empire, the Irish started raiding the island of Great Britain; the Romans and Romanized Britons (the Brythonic-speaking ancestors of the Welsh, Cornish, and Bretons) called them ''Scoti'', i.e. Scots. Eventually, some of these Scots from Ireland settled in the northern part of the island, conquering and marrying the Picts, and still keeping contact with Ireland (which was after all a very short boat trip away even in those days).
** There's some argument over the language the Picts actually spoke. Bythronic [Welsh, Breton and Cornish] is thought to be influenced by the Romans while the Picts were never conquered.
*** Over time, Scotland and Ireland grew apart, and the next time there was a big movement of people, it was the other way around--Protestant, English-speaking[[note]]Technically, they spoke Scots. But to a Gaelic-speaking Irishman, there really isn't much of a difference--they're both Germanic, not Celtic.[[/note]] Scots joined the English in building "plantations"--i.e. colonies--in Ireland, particularly the northern part of the island (closest to Scotland). Many of these Scottish immigrants weren't too well-off themselves, and eventually moved to America--from which we get the "Scots-Irish". People from the Isles might know them better as Ulster Scots, but either way, the US is chock-full of them, including much of the population of the [[DeepSouth South]] (from which we get CountryMusic--based heavily in Celtic folk traditions--and [[DeepFriedWhatever the South's obsession with all things deep-fried]]) and ''at least'' seventeen [[ThePresidents Presidents of the United States]].
**** Then, to confuse the issue further, a lot of Ulster Protestants, mostly Presbyterian and descended from Scots, immigrated to the west of Scotland and Glasgow, at the same time as many Catholic Irish. Thus, in Scotland today, there are Scots of Irish Catholic origin (usually from the north and Donegal) and Scots of Ulster Protestant origin, and just plain Scots, and people who are half Irish Catholic and half Scottish Protestant.

* SonsOfAnarchy - Chibs is referred to as a Scot, is played by Scottish actor Tommy Flanagan, but apparently was raised in Belfast. This would be less jarring had Flanagan had even a hint of a Northern Irish accent, but he plays Chibs with his thick-as-mud Glaswegian tones on full blast.

* CraigFerguson, the Scottish-born host of CBS' ''TheLateLateShow'', once remarked on a St. Patrick's Day episode that "I'm not Irish, but everybody thinks I am."

* Inverted in ''LegallyBlonde: The Musical'', in the song "Ireland". Paulette dreams of meeting an Irish man and living in Ireland, and confuses Scottish and Irish culture- which Elle (and the audience) find funny.

* In one episode of ''{{Lost}}'', Sawyer refers to Desmond as 'the magic {{leprechaun}}', even though Desmond is actually Scottish. It's unclear whether the writers chose to have Sawyer make this mistake in character or whether they made the mistake themselves--but, given that none of the other characters pick up on it, it's probably the latter.
** Considering that the only time anyone ''ever'' called Sawyer out on an inaccurate nickname was the Pilot when he called Sayid "Al Jazeera" it's probably the former.

->''The Scots (originally Irish, but by now Scotch) were at this time inhabiting Ireland, having driven the Irish (Picts) out of Scotland; while the Picts (originally Scots) were now Irish (living in brackets) and vice versa. It is essential to keep these distinctions clearly in mind (and verce visa).''
-->-- ''[[Literature/TenSixtySixAndAllThat 1066 and All That]]'', "Important Note"

Scotland, Northern Ireland and The Republic of Ireland condensed into the same place. The Loch Ness Monster, {{Leprechaun}}s, [[EverythingsLouderWithBagpipes bagpipes]], shamrocks, threatening people with shillelaghs[[hottip:*:pronounced "shuh-lay-lee" and meaning "blunt instrument"; see IrishNames for more help with the peculiarities of Irish pronunciation, and note that it will be no help for names in Scots Gaelic, which is a separate (though related) language]], potatoes, haggis, plaid (actual plaid, or tartan), kilts, clans, castles, caber tossing, and a ''lot'' of [[ViolentGlaswegian angry dr]][[FightingIrish unk people]].

** Indeed, this is what the page quote is talking about. You see, the land now called Scotland was formerly inhabited by the Picts, who spoke a language that was, if not Brythonic, than closely related to to the Brythonic.[[hottip:*:We think. There are very few written records of Pictish, chiefly because the Romans--the only ones in the area whose writing system could be adapted to almost any language--never managed to conquer the Picts and indeed built a wall in frustration: the Roman equivalent of saying "Screw you guys, I'm going home" when it came to dealing with "barbarians."]] Around the time of the collapse of the Roman Empire, the Irish started raiding the island of Great Britain; the Romans and Romanized Britons (the Brythonic-speaking ancestors of the Welsh, Cornish, and Bretons) called them ''Scoti'', i.e. Scots. Eventually, some of these Scots from Ireland settled in the northern part of the island, conquering and marrying the Picts, and still keeping contact with Ireland (which was after all a very short boat trip away even in those days).

*** Over time, Scotland and Ireland grew apart, and the next time there was a big movement of people, it was the other way around--Protestant, English-speaking[[hottip:*:Technically, they spoke Scots. But to a Gaelic-speaking Irishman, there really isn't much of a difference--they're both Germanic, not Celtic.]] Scots joined the English in building "plantations"--i.e. colonies--in Ireland, particularly the northern part of the island (closest to Scotland). Many of these Scottish immigrants weren't too well-off themselves, and eventually moved to America--from which we get the "Scots-Irish". People from the Isles might know them better as Ulster Scots, but either way, the US is chock-full of them, including much of the population of the [[DeepSouth South]] (from which we get CountryMusic--based heavily in Celtic folk traditions--and [[DeepFriedWhatever the South's obsession with all things deep-fried]]) and ''at least'' seventeen [[ThePresidents Presidents of the United States]].

->''The Scots (originally Irish, but by now Scotch) were at this time inhabiting Ireland, having driven the Irish (Picts) out of Scotland; while the Picts (originally Scots) were now Irish (living in brackets) and vice versa. It is essential to keep these distinctions clearly in mind (and verce visa).''\\
-- '''''- 1066 and All That'''''

* The Celtic civilization in ''AgeOfEmpiresII'' is a case of this. Units speak Irish Gaelic and the Celtic wonder is the Rock of Cashel in Ireland, but their unique unit is the Woad Raider, an unit based on the Picts of Ancient Scotland, and their civilization bonuses in siege, fast infantry and [[MightyLumberjack wood]] [[BoringButPractical gathering]] are inspired by ''Medieval'' Scotland. Finally, the playable Celtic campaign deals with William Wallace's rebellion.

Compare BritainIsOnlyLondon, {{Spexico}}, AncientGrome, and {{Mayincatec}}. See also ViolentGlaswegian, FightingIrish, {{Oireland}}, BonnieScotland. Oddly, Scottish actors and actresses have a disproportionate tendency [[FakeIrish to be cast as Irish characters]]. Whether this is a side effect of this trope or whether it actually helps enforce it is anyone's guess.