History Main / PostGrunge

* [[Music/ThreeDoorsDown 3 Doors Down]]

* [[NotChristianRock Have been called]] ChristianRock at some point. Bonus points if they actually ''did'' start out as a Christian rock band (Skillet and Switchfoot are two examples).

* Music/PearlJam (also debatable since they were a straightforward Music/{{Grunge}} band when they started, but some of their music from the late 90s onward can lean towards this for some)

* [[Music/TenYears 10 Years]] (an Main/EnsembleDarkHorse that is one of the most Tool influenced of the lot, also considered Music/ProgressiveMetal)

* Music/PuddleOfMudd (started out as more nu-metal influenced but later work was in the SexAndDrugsAndRockAndRoll style)

* Music/SavingAbel (Another SexAndDrugsAndRockAndRoll act, fairly similar to Hinder although more influenced by southern rock)

* Music/TheoryOfADeadman (also a SexAndDrugsAndRockAndRoll group who are closely tied to Nickelback. They were for the most part the lone survivor of that wave of bands after they went out of style)

* Music/BurnHalo (once again from the SexAndDrugsAndRockAndRoll wave, though less successful)

* Hinder (a band from the SexAndDrugsAndRockAndRoll wave influenced by GlamMetal)

* Music/MyDarkestDays (short-lived SexAndDrugsAndRockAndRoll act, known as the original band of Music/ThreeDaysGrace’s second frontman.)

* Music/{{Red}} ( Mixed with ChristianRock and SymphonicMetal)

* Music/{{Lit}}

* Music/OurLadyPeace

* Music/Eve6 (overlaps with PopPunk)

* Music/{{Garbage}}
* Hinder
* Music/{{Hoobastank}}

* Music/MyDarkestDays

* Music/ThePrettyReckless
* Music/{{PuddleOfMudd}}

* Music/SavingAbel

* Music/{{Stereomud}}
* Music/{{Switchfoot}}
* Music/{{Tantric}} (with a heavier emphasis on acoustic guitars than most bands)
* Music/TheoryOfADeadman
* Music/TheVeerUnion

* Music/BurnHalo

* Music/{{Crossfade}}

* Music/DecyferDown
* Music/DrowningPool (third album onward)

* Music/{{Filter}} (crosses over with IndustrialMetal)

* Music/{{Godsmack}} (most obvious example of the Alice in Chains influence within Alt-metal[=/=]post-grunge)

* Music/{{Hurt}}

* Music/{{Lostprophets}} (overlaps with PostHardcore)

* Music/{{Red}} ( Mixed with SymphonicMetal)
* Music/{{Seether}}

* Music/SickPuppies

* Music/{{SOiL}} (not coincidentally, their original singer Ryan [=McCombs=] went on to join Drowning Pool and play on their third album)

* Music/StoneSour (Music/{{Slipknot}} vocalist Corey Taylor occasionally lapses into this genre when singing melodically)

* Music/ThousandFootKrutch (as of ''War of Change'', earlier work is NuMetal)

* Music/{{Tremonti}} (less PostGrunge / AlternativeMetal, more PostGrunge ThrashMetal, and one of the consistently heaviest of PostGrunge bands)

* [[Music/SixxAM Sixx:A.M.]] (a rock trio featuring [[Music/MotleyCrue Nikki Sixx]]; their sound is far removed from that of Sixx's former band)

Some post-grunge bands take more after Music/{{Tool}} and Music/AliceInChains than Music/PearlJam or Music/{{Nirvana}}, while some like to add a heavier edge to their sound as not to be lumped with their softer post-grunge contemporaries while maintaining their alternative status. Thus, the overlap with AlternativeMetal was inevitable. Note that all or most post-grunge bands fall under the HardRock umbrella (a genre related to alt-metal and HeavyMetal}), but post-grunge bands with similarities to metal aren't necessarily an example of alt-metal. Given their similar pop-leanings, normally when a post-grunge band makes their sound heavier they become [[NuMetal nu-metal]] rather than pure alt-metal; achieving the sound of alt-metal requires a distinctly guitar-driven, alternative rock approach with less of the aggression, rap elements and simplicity associated with nu-metal[[note]]Also note that post-grunge/alt-metal bands tend to sound very far from the "normal", Guns N' Roses/Bon Jovi-style hard rock described earlier, aside from the odd GenreShift[[/note]]. In other words, bands like Papa Roach, who practiced more standard-fare nu-metal early in their career only to switch to post-grunge later, wouldn't be an example of post-grunge/alt-metal crossover. Post-grunge/alt-metal crossover bands melodically tend to follow more in line with classic grunge, AlternativeRock and NWOBHM on the mid end of the MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness. They are generally much more acclaimed and respected than regular post-grunge. These include:

* Music/{{Shinedown}} (varies by the MohsScaleOfRockAndMetalHardness for which genre they fit in more. Probably the PostGrunge band with the most Music/{{Soundgarden}} influence)

* Come from [[CanadaEh Canada (specifically, British Columbia and Southern Ontario)]], UsefulNotes/{{California}}, [[UsefulNotes/TheOtherRainforest the Pacific Northwest]], and [[FlyoverCountry the Upper Midwest]]. [[DeepSouth The southern]] [[{{Eagleland}} US]] is also optional.

* Has a sizable amount of single-word-title songs.

* Was huge in their heyday and now plays small clubs and bars, most of which are in third-tier rural markets.

After dominating rock music in the '90s and '00s, post-grunge eventually wore out its welcome in TheNewTens. The [[ElectronicMusic electronic dance craze]] practically wiped out post-grunge's hold on the radio overnight. Few new bands are playing post-grunge, moving onto AlternativeRock or Pop Rock. The post-grunge bands that didn't sing about SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll are still charting well on Mainstream Rock radio ([[NewSoundAlbum usually because they added elements of other genres into their music]]), but everyone else is firmly CondemnedByHistory.

* Have a member with a Music/KurtCobain-like shaggy hair cut and goatee combo.
** Chad Kroeger actually seemed to evolve into it. When Nickelback first came around, his hair was very long and he had a beard.
** Jon Foreman from Switchfoot also evolved into it due to pressure from record executives to look edgier. When the band started, Foreman had short, spiked hair with very little gruff. Foreman has had the same look since 2003.

* [[{{Yarling}} Sing]] like [[Music/PearlJam Eddie Vedder]] or (with some bands) [[Music/KurtCobain Kurt]] [[Music/{{Nirvana}} Cobain]] or [[Music/AliceInChains Layne Staley]]. Or in light of this, claim their vocalizations were influenced by [[Music/TheDoors Jim Morrison]].
** This has been known to reach {{Flanderization}} levels: sounding like Music/{{Nirvana}} means SuddenlyShouting during the chorus in between PerishingAltRockVoice, sounding like Music/PearlJam means [[{{Yarling}} groaning and mumbling]], and sounding like Music/AliceInChains means an exaggerated nasal characteristic and vibrato on almost every note.
* Have [[http://www.last.fm/tag/post-grunge major radio success]].
** Additionally, has at least one song that's all over Top 40 radio and another that's all over rock radio.

* You've heard a softer SignatureSong of on the radio lately? (possibly an acoustic ballad)

+ HardRock, NuMetal, GlamMetal, GlamRock, BluesRock, GarageRock

The genre has been known to use the rock-like compositions and structure often rejected by their predecessors in Grunge, modernized with brooding lyrics. In this sense, the movement could be considered ([[{{Irony}} ironically]]) the SpiritualSuccessor to HairMetal, whose pop beats and polished production brought heavy rock to a widespread audience (Post-grunge is also well known for its "soul-searching" ballads). Ironically, many post-grunge bands take more influence from Music/{{Poison}}, Cinderella and Music/{{Whitesnake}} than Music/{{Nirvana}}; post-grunge players generally think of the old grunge-greats as idols/heroes rather than influences, with more of an interest in stylistic emulation over artistic aspiration (the subtle difference between a direct or indirect influence from grunge can affect how well-received a post-grunge band is, both critically and to their audience). Post-Grunge tends to focus more on lyrical structure than music, [[DoingItForTheArt often the opposite stance]] [[WordSaladLyrics of early grunge artists]]. Though the genre is rooted primarily in AlternativeRock, make no mistake: Post-grunge was tailor-made for the mainstream, and is what helped Alternative become rooted as 'Mainstream' music. [[note]]Notice that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Mainstream_Rock_Tracks Billboard's Hot Mainstream Rock Tracks']] record-holders are almost entirely post-grunge bands.[[/note]] In essence, it took no influence from what Grunge was, but took every influence from what Grunge became: a commercial darling.

The rise of Post-grunge has gone to dominate and even embed itself in the standardly recognized sound of HardRock [[SmallReferencePools as most people can hear]], creating the assumption that Post-grunge is, along with {{Emo|Music}} and PopPunk, the only form of modern rock. This has had the flip-side effect of some of the more straight-forward, contemporary rock groups [[note]]The kind who take their influence from the deep-seated 70's and 80's hard rock staples (Black Stone Cherry, Rev Theory, Hinder, Saving Abel, Buckcherry, Pop Evil, My Darkest Days, etc.)[[/note]] being lumped in with post-grunge, despite largely having no alternative qualities in their rock[[note]]Music/{{Nickelback}} is a particularly odd case of this, taking on a more stadium/pop sound in their later albums and thus joining this group while still carrying the post-grunge label as an ArtifactTitle, probably because of their lead singer's scratchy voice[[/note]]. There is a bit of cross-over involved as well: Saliva, Music/{{Shinedown}}, [[Music/ThreeDoorsDown 3 Doors Down]] and Music/{{Daughtry}} like to dabble in/pay tribute to "regular" hard rock when they can, adding to this confusion. It seems the only way to escape this is to play ''very'' old-fashioned retro-rock, such as GarageRock revival, new BluesRock, [[PsychedelicRock neo-psychedelia]], [[HeavyMetal traditional-metal revival]], or [[PopRevival modernized]] PowerPop.

[[PostSomethingism Post]]-grunge is a derivative of {{Grunge}} music that became popular in the late '90s. The genre is primarily marked by its use of the apathetic, droning vocals, downtuned guitars and HardRock[=/=][[PunkRock Punk]] aesthetics commonly associated with Grunge, but also removing the unusual structures and [[ProgressiveRock prog-like]] time signatures that Grunge artists such as The Melvins were also known for, [[LighterAndSofter then slowing it down]] but not to the level of DoomMetal. In other words, taking, running-with and exploiting the more commercially viable qualities of Grunge while watering down its oddity and offending harshness. Yeah, this genre doesn't go over well with the underground music scene. Its popularity has occasionally caused it to receive blame for AlternativeRock to becoming more banal, and losing its experimental qualities. Not to mention the genre's existence has lead to numerous bands previously snatched up by major labels after Music/{{Nirvana}}'s breakthrough being unceremoniously dumped[[note]]like Boredoms, Music/ButtholeSurfers and Music/{{Jawbox}}, to name a few[[/note]].

+ Grunge, AlternativeRock, AlternativeMetal, SouthernRock

->''"I think the grunge-lite movement came not from bands so much as record labels. I think the record labels said, 'Hmm... Let's have more of that. Let's find bands who we can encourage to write songs that have a little bit of angst and a whole lot of melody and create something that's not challenging, it's not confrontational, and that the mainstream can just wholeheartedly embrace.'"''

->''I think the grunge-lite movement came not from bands so much as record labels. I think the record labels said, "Hmm... Let's have more of that. Let's find bands who we can encourage to write songs that have a little bit of angst and a whole lot of melody and create something that's not challenging, it's not confrontational, and that the mainstream can just wholeheartedly embrace."''

The rise of Post-grunge has gone to dominate and even embed itself in the standardly recognized sound of HardRock [[SmallReferencePools as most people can hear]], creating the assumption that Post-grunge is, along with {{Emo}} and PopPunk, the only form of modern rock. This has had the flip-side effect of some of the more straight-forward, contemporary rock groups [[note]]The kind who take their influence from the deep-seated 70's and 80's hard rock staples (Black Stone Cherry, Rev Theory, Hinder, Saving Abel, Buckcherry, Pop Evil, My Darkest Days, etc.)[[/note]] being lumped in with post-grunge, despite largely having no alternative qualities in their rock[[note]]Music/{{Nickelback}} is a particularly odd case of this, taking on a more stadium/pop sound in their later albums and thus joining this group while still carrying the post-grunge label as an ArtifactTitle, probably because of their lead singer's scratchy voice[[/note]]. There is a bit of cross-over involved as well: Saliva, Music/{{Shinedown}}, [[Music/ThreeDoorsDown 3 Doors Down]] and Music/{{Daughtry}} like to dabble in/pay tribute to "regular" hard rock when they can, adding to this confusion. It seems the only way to escape this is to play ''very'' old-fashioned retro-rock, such as GarageRock revival, new BluesRock, [[PsychedelicRock neo-psychedelia]], [[HeavyMetal traditional-metal revival]], or [[PopRevival modernized]] PowerPop.

* Music/{{Feeder}}

After dominating rock music in the '90s and '00s, post-grunge eventually wore out its welcome in TheNewTens. The [[ElectronicMusic electronic dance craze]] practically wiped out post-grunge's hold on the radio overnight. Few new bands are playing post-grunge, moving onto AlternativeRock or Pop Rock. The post-grunge bands that didn't sing about SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll are still charting well on Mainstream Rock radio ([[NewSoundAlbum usually because they added elements of other genres into their music]]), but everyone else is firmly DeaderThanDisco.

* Smile Empty Soul (arguably the most respected example)

The rise of Post-grunge has gone to dominate and even embed itself in the standardly recognized sound of {{hard rock}} [[SmallReferencePools as most people can hear]], creating the assumption that Post-grunge is, along with {{Emo}} and PopPunk, the only form of modern rock. This has had the flip-side effect of some of the more straight-forward, contemporary rock groups [[note]]The kind who take their influence from the deep-seated 70's and 80's hard rock staples (Black Stone Cherry, Rev Theory, Hinder, Saving Abel, Buckcherry, Pop Evil, My Darkest Days, etc.)[[/note]] being lumped in with post-grunge, despite largely having no alternative qualities in their rock[[note]]Music/{{Nickelback}} is a particularly odd case of this, taking on a more stadium/pop sound in their later albums and thus joining this group while still carrying the post-grunge label as an ArtifactTitle, probably because of their lead singer's scratchy voice[[/note]]. There is a bit of cross-over involved as well: Saliva, Music/{{Shinedown}}, [[Music/ThreeDoorsDown 3 Doors Down]] and Music/{{Daughtry}} like to dabble in/pay tribute to "regular" hard rock when they can, adding to this confusion. It seems the only way to escape this is to play ''very'' old-fashioned retro-rock, such as GarageRock revival, new BluesRock, [[PsychedelicRock neo-psychedelia]], [[HeavyMetal traditional-metal revival]], or [[PopRevival modernized]] PowerPop.

[[PostSomethingism Post]]-grunge is a derivative of {{Grunge}} music that became popular in the late '90s. The genre is primarily marked by its use of the apathetic, droning vocals, downtuned guitars and HardRock[=/=][[PunkRock Punk]] aesthetics commonly associated with Grunge, but also removing the unusual structures and [[ProgressiveRock prog-like]] time signatures that Grunge artists such as The Melvins were also known for, [[LighterAndSofter then slowing it down]] but not to the level of [[DoomMetal doom metal]]. In other words, taking, running-with and exploiting the more commercially viable qualities of Grunge while watering down its oddity and offending harshness. Yeah, this genre doesn't go over well with the underground music scene. Its popularity has occasionally caused it to receive blame for AlternativeRock to becoming more banal, and losing its experimental qualities. Not to mention the genre's existence has lead to numerous bands previously snatched up by major labels after Music/{{Nirvana}}'s breakthrough being unceremoniously dumped[[note]]like Boredoms, Music/ButtholeSurfers and Music/{{Jawbox}}, to name a few[[/note]].

* Music/{{Incubus}} (Started off as a {{funk metal}} band and have later [[GenreShift shifted]] into AlternativeRock proper with recent albums. The post grunge is only really their {{black sheep hit}}s)

** There's a good reason for the first one: Nickelback is from Hanna, Alberta (cuurently based in UsefulNotes/{{Vancouver}}), and Chad Kroeger loves seeking out bands that sound similar to his own so he can sign them (in the hopes of "bringing back rock n' roll").