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* ''TheTransformers'' has this problem, even excusing the HammerSpace answers for "where does Optimus Prime's trailer go?" and "how do they shrink?". Ratchet is the same size as Ironhide (they're PalleteSwap characters in the toys), yet Ironhide will fit ''inside'' of ambulance-form Ratchet, allowing the doors to close. Similarly, Decepticons can fit inside the cockpits of Decepticon jets, even though their robot forms are exactly the same size.

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* ''TheTransformers'' has this problem, even excusing the HammerSpace answers for "where does Optimus Prime's trailer go?" and "how do they shrink?". Ratchet is the same size as Ironhide (they're PalleteSwap PaletteSwap characters in the toys), yet Ironhide will fit ''inside'' of ambulance-form Ratchet, allowing the doors to close. Similarly, Decepticons can fit inside the cockpits of Decepticon jets, even though their robot forms are exactly the same size.
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-->-- '''Doug [=TenNapel=]''', ''Ratfist'' [[http://ratfist.com/page-3/ page 3]]

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* The English dub of ''Digimon'' tends to increase age of characters. Fans don't seem to be particularly bothered by this since characters are supposed to reflect the age of audience, and enough characters are [[CompetenceZone modified equally that there is no real change]].

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* The English dub of ''Digimon'' ''{{Digimon}}'' tends to increase age of characters. Fans don't seem to be particularly bothered by this since characters are supposed to reflect the age of audience, and enough characters are [[CompetenceZone modified equally that there is no real change]].
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* Jean Grey's age in ''[[UltimateXMen Ultimate X-Men]]'' was originally given in promotional materials as 15. When one of the book's writers began a plot with her relationship with Wolverine, her age became relevant and had to be {{retcon}}ned to 18.
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* JKRowling is known for this. Hogwarts' shifting floor plan was developed so that she could HandWave discrepancies, such as [[TheDumbledore Dumbledore]]'s office being on the second floor in book two and on the seventh floor (down the hall from the Room of Requirement) from book five onward. But of course, AWizardDidIt.

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* JKRowling is known for this. Hogwarts' shifting floor plan was developed so that she could HandWave discrepancies, such as [[TheDumbledore Dumbledore]]'s Dumbledore's office being on the second floor in book two and on the seventh floor (down the hall from the Room of Requirement) from book five onward. But of course, AWizardDidIt.
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** The main airlock, where the characters enter or exit the ship is located at the very, very front. Since the ship is several hundred meters long and any shot of the crew entering or exiting the ship is going to have the camera relatively close, cutscenes focus on the bow and cut off the much taller and fatter body of the ship. Besides, from a technical standpoint, if the animators created very-high quality to-scale models of the characters and ship (which they clearly have,) they would surely reuse them throughout the game, rather then creating whatever small section of the ship the camera is focusing on for every cutscene.
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* Don't ever try to reconcile the sizes of the vehicles, your character's size, the sizes of the buildings, and the sizes of the evacuees that emerge from the buildings in BlastCorps. It will only end in headaches and tears.
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* Over the course of the twenty episodes of the ''TenchiMuyo'' OVA series, the Masaki house goes through at least four distinct versions. Most of the changes are due to remodelling (or complete rebuilding), but episode 3 reveals that the earliest version of the house is impossible: the lounge doesn't fit inside the exterior walls, the kitchen has exterior windows where there should be an interior wall, and so on. One scene requires Aeka's bedroom to be on the second floor of one side of the house, facing the lake, while a second scene, only minutes after the first, requires it to be on the third floor of the opposite side of the house, in a location that doesn't exist at that point in the story and facing a direction that makes nonsense of the earlier scene, while Sasami is seen standing in a corridor that doesn't exist prior to episode 7. Different animators may have been working from different floor plans. Or maybe Yog-Sothoth was the architect.
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*** Another mind-bending example is Spinda. The height of a five-year-old, the weight of a terrier. Apparently Spinda are made of hallucinations and pixie dust.
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* ''{{Freelancer}}'': When flying in space, full-size planets are no larger than a few hundred meters in diameter.
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As a general rule, the depictions of the size, age, or other aspects of characters and objects in fiction is not particularly consistent. This is thanks in large part due to the fact that artists are not architects- people without the right training often have a difficult time scaling how large some objects are relative to others, and considering how difficult it is to gain this kind of depth perception, it's somewhat understandable that many artists just do the best they can and [[DidNotDoTheResearch don't do the research]].

Clever writers will often recognize these limitations by deliberately avoiding clearly classifying characters traits like [[ImprobableAge age]], height, power, or minor biographical information- these technical features seldom relate directly to narrative so they can often get away with it. Unfortunately, if someone else involved with the production wants to use these statistics for some other facet like merchandise. they can end up being defined inaccurately anyway. For some fans this can turn into SeriousBusiness.

Contradictions arising from the implications of this trope can get involved in pretty much any facet of fiction involving math, from DawsonCasting to [[PowerLevel bizarre tiers of superpowers]]. Sorting algorithm tropes can mitigate to this large extent, as it avoids measuring anything objectively by instead only measuring things relative to other [fictional objects]. Even then, size and height is a consistent problem area as most mundane objects do have general sizes, even if the writers forget this.

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As a general rule, the depictions of the size, age, or other aspects of characters and objects in fiction is are not particularly consistent. This is thanks in large part due to the fact that artists are not architects- people without the right training often have a difficult time scaling how large some objects are relative to others, and considering how difficult it is to gain this kind of depth perception, it's somewhat understandable that many artists just do the best they can and [[DidNotDoTheResearch don't do the research]].

Clever writers will often recognize these limitations by deliberately avoiding clearly classifying characters traits like [[ImprobableAge age]], height, power, or minor biographical information- these technical features seldom relate directly to narrative so they can often get away with it. Unfortunately, if someone else involved with the production wants to use these statistics for some other facet like merchandise. merchandise, they can end up being defined inaccurately anyway. For some fans this can turn into SeriousBusiness.

Contradictions arising from the implications of this trope can get involved in pretty much any facet of fiction involving math, from DawsonCasting to [[PowerLevel bizarre tiers of superpowers]]. Sorting algorithm tropes can mitigate to this large extent, as it avoids measuring anything objectively by instead only measuring things relative to other [fictional objects].fictional objects. Even then, size and height is a consistent problem area as most mundane objects do have general sizes, even if the writers forget this.

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* {{Eyeshield 21}} has this HARD. Sena is 5'1 while his childhood friend is 5'4, yet the height difference between the two looks to be atleast 5 or 6 inches. On the other hand, Ikkyu is supposedly 5'5 while Monta is 5'1 yet the difference between the two looks to be no more then two inches, since Ikkyu is meant to be Monta's slightly older counterpart. That's not even including the unusually short (Komosubi) or the freakishly tall (Sphynx, Poseidon, or Gao).
** Though to be fair, Eyeshield relies a lot on skewed perspective and the character's perception based on their emotional state. For example, the first time the Deimon meets Taiyou, the Sphinx players look like 10 feet tall monster (Murata even lampshades this); This is because the Devilbats are intimidated by the heavier, stronger, and more experienced players. By the time the two teams meet again, the Sphinx are perceived for what they really are: unusually large and strong, but still human.

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* {{Eyeshield 21}} has this HARD. Sena is 5'1 while his childhood friend is 5'4, yet the height difference between the two looks to be atleast 5 or 6 inches. On the other hand, Ikkyu is supposedly 5'5 while Monta is 5'1 yet the difference between the two looks to be no more then two inches, since Ikkyu is meant to be Monta's slightly older counterpart. That's not even including the unusually short (Komosubi) or the freakishly tall (Sphynx, Poseidon, or Gao).
** Though to be fair, Eyeshield
relies a lot on skewed perspective and the character's perception based on their emotional state. For example, the first time the Deimon meets Taiyou, the Sphinx players look like 10 feet tall monster (Murata even lampshades this); This is because the Devilbats are intimidated by the heavier, stronger, and more experienced players. By the time the two teams meet again, the Sphinx are perceived for what they really are: unusually large and strong, but still human.
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** Similarly, Mamori seems tall because she's viewed as a mature mother figure. Ikkyu is perceived as quite short because he's the {{butt monkey}} of the Nagas. Height in Eyeshield seems to be indicated more by personality and perception rather then what's realistic.

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* {{Eyeshield 21}} has this HARD. Sena is 5'1 while his childhood friend is 5'4, yet the height difference between the two looks to be atleast 5 or 6 inches. On the other hand, Ikkyu is supposedly 5'5 while Monta is 5'1 yet the difference between the two looks to be no more then two inches, since Ikkyu is meant to be Monta's slightly older counterpart. That's not even including the unusually short (Komosubi) or the freakishly tall (Sphynx, Poseidon, or Gao).
** Though to be fair, Eyeshield relies a lot on skewed perspective and the character's perception based on their emotional state. For example, the first time the Deimon meets Taiyou, the Sphinx players look like 10 feet tall monster (Murata even lampshades this); This is because the Devilbats are intimidated by the heavier, stronger, and more experienced players. By the time the two teams meet again, the Sphinx are perceived for what they really are: unusually large and strong, but still human.
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* In ''MassEffect2'', the Normandy SR-2 is a ship that is (judging by in-game descriptions) at least four decks tall, with the top deck (Command Centre and the cockpit) alone being noticeably several feet higher than any human character (including Commander Shepard). However, the ship is modeled to be ''much'' smaller during its appearances in the Suicide Mission. While the crashed ship looks relatively massive when the specialists first exit it, it becomes much smaller during the [[spoiler:end run, when Shepard (and his team, if they survived) run towards the Normandy, which is hovering in mid-air. The ship itself is modeled to be just slightly larger (height-wise) than Joker, who is standing at the port airlock and is almost as tall as the ship itself. This is also prevalent during several other in-engine cutscenes where the main cast directly enter the Normandy itself.

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* In ''MassEffect2'', the Normandy SR-2 is a ship that is (judging by in-game descriptions) at least four decks tall, with the top deck (Command Centre and the cockpit) alone being noticeably several feet higher than any human character (including Commander Shepard). However, the ship is modeled to be ''much'' smaller during its appearances in the Suicide Mission. While the crashed ship looks relatively massive when the specialists first exit it, it becomes much smaller during the [[spoiler:end run, when Shepard (and his team, if they survived) run towards the Normandy, which is hovering in mid-air.mid-air]]. The ship itself is modeled to be just slightly larger (height-wise) than Joker, who is standing at the port airlock and is almost as tall as the ship itself. This is also prevalent during several other in-engine cutscenes where the main cast directly enter the Normandy itself.
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* In ''MassEffect2'', the Normandy SR-2 is a ship that is (judging by in-game descriptions) at least four decks tall, with the top deck (Command Centre and the cockpit) alone being noticeably several feet higher than any human character (including Commander Shepard). However, the ship is modeled to be ''much'' smaller during its appearances in the Suicide Mission. While the crashed ship looks relatively massive when the specialists first exit it, it becomes much smaller during the [[spoiler:end run, when Shepard (and his team, if they survived) run towards the Normandy, which is hovering in mid-air. The ship itself is modeled to be just slightly larger (height-wise) than Joker, who is standing at the port airlock and is almost as tall as the ship itself. This is also prevalent during several other in-engine cutscenes where the main cast directly enter the Normandy itself.
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** She's not shorter, everyone else is just really freaking huge.

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** The most outrageous example of this is from ''TransformersTheMovie'', when the Decepticons retreat after Megatron has fallen in battle. '''All''' of the Decepticons -- including five jets, six Constructicons, a dozen Insecticons, Blitzwing, Soundwave, and four of his cassettes -- easily fit inside Astrotrain, whose vehicle forms are either a Space Shuttle or a ''steam locomotive engine''.
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* The ''TransFormers'' comic featured huge problems with this, with gigantic characters like Omega Supreme and Metroplex (each well over 100 feet tall) would be giants in one scene, and be barely taller than a good-sized Autobot in the next. The cartoon series has this problem, too.

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* The ''TransFormers'' ''TheTransformers'' comic featured huge problems with this, with gigantic characters like Omega Supreme and Metroplex (each well over 100 feet tall) would be giants in one scene, and be barely taller than a good-sized Autobot in the next. The cartoon series has this problem, too.
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* The ''TransFormers'' comic featured huge problems with this, with gigantic characters like Omega Supreme and Metroplex (each well over 100 feet tall) would be giants in one scene, and be barely taller than a good-sized Autobot in the next. The cartoon series has this problem, too.


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* ''TheTransformers'' has this problem, even excusing the HammerSpace answers for "where does Optimus Prime's trailer go?" and "how do they shrink?". Ratchet is the same size as Ironhide (they're PalleteSwap characters in the toys), yet Ironhide will fit ''inside'' of ambulance-form Ratchet, allowing the doors to close. Similarly, Decepticons can fit inside the cockpits of Decepticon jets, even though their robot forms are exactly the same size.

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* ''[[{{Pokemon}} Pokemon]]'' is probably one of the worst offenders, concerning Pokedex information. A noteworthy example is the Rock Snake Pokemon Onix, which, although being 8.8 m long and made of boulders (the diameters of which range from Ash's height to double his height)... weighs only 210 kg (463 lbs).
** Better yet there's Wailord, a whale Pokemon that is 47 feet long yet only weighs about half a ton. What is it made out of, bubblewrap?
*** Worse yet, Ash once allowed a Hippopotas (basically a Hippo-like Pokemon almost twice the length of Pikachu) to hitch a ride on his head, like Pikachu or Aipom usually does/did. Pikachu weighs about 13 lbs (5.8 kg). Hippopotas weighs ''over one hundred pounds'' (more than ''45 kg'').
*** As does Cacnea (weighs in at about 113 lbs (51 kg), to be precise), yet in the show, Gardenia was picking one up and swinging it around like it was nothing. Either she's much, MUCH stronger than she looks, or...
**** Or it's a particularly small Cacnea. It's distinctly implied that the values given in the Pokedex are ''averages'', not solid numbers.
*** Though she ''is'' deceptively strong, [[PokemonSpecial Sapphire]] has been seen with her Aron on her shoulder. Aron weigh (on average) 132.3 lbs (60 kg).
** Apparently Pokedex only refer to the average weight of Pokemon.
** The height of characters of the day is also in rather wild flux. If one considers Brock to be a slightly-less-than-average-sized young adult, every few episodes the cast runs into ten foot tall bearmen.



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* ''[[{{Pokemon}} Pokemon]]'' is probably one of the worst offenders, concerning Pokédex information. A noteworthy example is the Rock Snake Pokémon Onix, which, although being 8.8 m long and made of boulders (the diameters of which range from Red's height to double his height)... weighs only 210 kg (463 lbs).
** Better yet there's Wailord, a whale Pokémon that is 47 feet long yet only weighs about half a ton. What is it made out of, bubblewrap?
*** Worse yet, in the anime Ash once allowed a Hippopotas (a hippo-like Pokémon almost twice the length of Pikachu) to hitch a ride on his head, like Pikachu or Aipom usually does/did. Pikachu weighs about 13 lbs (5.8 kg). Hippopotas weighs ''over one hundred pounds'' (more than ''45 kg'').
*** As does Cacnea (weighs in at about 113 lbs (51 kg), to be precise), yet in the anime, Gardenia was picking one up and swinging it around like it was nothing. Either she's much, MUCH stronger than she looks, or...
**** Or it's a particularly small Cacnea. It's distinctly implied that the values given in the Pokédex are ''averages'', not solid numbers.
*** Though she ''is'' deceptively strong, [[PokemonSpecial Sapphire]] has been seen with her Aron on her shoulder. Aron weigh (on average) 132.3 lbs (60 kg).
** Apparently, the Pokédex only refer to the average weight of Pokémon.
** The height of characters of the day is also in rather wild flux. If one considers Brock to be a slightly-less-than-average-sized young adult, every few episodes the cast runs into ten foot tall bearmen.
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** Which actually fits the Other M's ValueDissonance in a way that's FridgeBrillance.

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** Which actually fits the Other M's ValueDissonance ValuesDissonance in a way that's FridgeBrillance.FridgeBrilliance.
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* FistOfTheNorthStar: Most of the "giants" were just drawn with warped perspective for a few panels. Very few are actually supposed to be huge... although there was one King Kong-sized villain.
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->''"Hi, I’m terrible at perspective. Not with life, but with buildings and materials. So forgive me if I get buildings wrong, I hope I make up for it by getting my perspective on mankind right."''
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** Which actually fits the Other M's ValueDissonance in a way that's FridgeBrillance.
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* ''TheLifeOfNobTMouse'' does this on purpose since it was originally supposed to look like a child had drawn it.
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* Compare [[FushigiYuugi Chiriko (4'11") and Miaka (roughly 5'2")]]. You don't need real life comparison to see the error.

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* Compare [[FushigiYuugi Chiriko (4'11") and Miaka (roughly 5'2")]].5'2") from ''FushigiYuugi''. You don't need real life comparison to see the error.
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* Compare [[FushigiYuugi Chiriko (4'11") and Miaka (roughly 5'2")]]. You don't need real life comparison to see the error.
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** A pretty clear example of {{Scifi Writers Have No Sense Of Scale}}.

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