History Main / MoreThanInfinite

* At the end of a non-canon ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' novel trilogy based on the history of the already-omnipotent being Q, he is forced to absorb the equally-powerful Calamarain to become a more-than-infinite composite being to fight off another omnipotent, yet insane, being; the explanation given was that depriving an omnipotent being of his grasp of reality makes him even ''more'' omnipotent, essentially meaning Q had to become more than infinite to stop a being that's ''already'' become more than infinite.

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* Creator/IsaacAsimov's "The Last Question": The godlike Voice has ''infinite'', but not ''absolute'', knowledge and power; it [[DiscussedTrope explains]] that one could know the full infinite set of positive numbers while remaining ignorant of the existence of negative numbers. It relies on mortals to fill the gaps in its understanding, most importantly [[spoiler:how it could [[DeathSeeker finally end its life]].]]

*** It's worth noting that in the original version, the reason that Yugi's Knight of Destiny won was because even though it had infinite ATK (the same as Divine Serpent), it also had an effect that prevented it from being destroyed by battle, so when the two equally powerful monsters battled, only one was left.
** During the show's Memory World arc, to defeat the BigBad Zorc Necrophades, one of Atem's priests (who resembled Yugi's grandfather) summoned Exodia, a monster who was apparently so powerful (in the anime, his total ATK was infinite), he needed to be split up into five pieces. Even so, Zorc exploited the fact that Exodia needed the priest's life energy to remain manifest, draining that energy in the fight while he remained more than infinite thanks to his power being sustained by the darkness.

''Not'' to be confused with UpToEleven, ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill, or ReadingsAreOffTheScale. Tentatively related to MyKungFuIsStronger, but ''only'' applies if the being your kung fu is stronger against is an [[TheOmnipotent omnipotent]] being. See also EvenMoreOmnipotent.

* Creator/IsaacAsimov's "The Last Question": The godlike Voice has ''infinite', but not ''absolute'', knowledge and power; it [[DiscussedTrope explains]] that one could know the full infinite set of positive numbers while remaining ignorant of the existence of negative numbers. It relies on mortals to fill the gaps in its understanding, most importantly [[spoiler:how it could [[DeathSeeker finally end its life]].]]

** During the show's Memory World arc, to defeat the BigBad Zorc Necrophades, one of Atem's priests (who resembled Yugi's grandfather) summoned Exodia, a monster who was apparently so powerful (in the anime, his total ATK was infinite), he needed to be split up into five pieces. Even so, Zorc exploited the fact that Exodia needed the priest's life energy to remain manifest, draining that energy in the fight while he remained MoreThanInfinite thanks to his power being sustained by the darkness.

* At the end of a ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' novel trilogy based on the history of the already-omnipotent being Q, he is forced to absorb the equally-powerful Calamarain to become a MoreThanInfinite composite being to fight off another omnipotent, yet insane, being; the explanation given was that depriving an omnipotent being of his grasp of reality makes him even ''more'' omnipotent, essentially meaning Q had to become MoreThanInfinite to stop a being that's ''already'' gone MoreThanInfinite. (This is not series canon, by the way).

* The author's notes for Chapter 34 of ''FanFic/HarryPotterAndTheMethodsOfRationality'' discusses the {{Gambit Pileup}}s in the chapter using transfinite ordinals. He concludes that [[spoiler:Quirrel]]'s plot is at least 2w+1 (that is two times infinity plus one).

[[note]]Minor footnote type thing: It should be noted that there are degrees of infinity. For instance there are strictly more points on a line (real numbers) than integers (whole numbers). However this rather abstract fact isn't usually what is meant by "more infinite than infinite" in fiction. Alternative number systems, studied in the field of nonstandard analysis, sometimes do include notions of values beyond infinity defined in a formal way. The ordinal numbers extend beyond infinity with the first values being 1, 2, 3, and so on. Then after all of the integers is omega which is the first infinite ordinal. Then is omega plus 1, omega plus 2, omega plus 3, and so on eventually there is omega plus omega and it is possible to continue in this way forever with values like omega squared showing up. Another, this time less formal, use of "infinite" is to mean "can grow without bound". Something like this can go on forever, eventually surpassing every finite number, but it will not technically ever reach an infinite value.[[/note]]

* An [[UpToEleven absolutely extreme example]] occurs in ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'', when Touma Kamijou does battle with Fiamma of the Right. Fiamma possesses the Holy Right, which grants him [[TheOmnipotent complete omnipotence and infinite power]]. Touma possesses the Imagine Breaker, which can [[AntiMagic negate anything Touma sees as not normal]], including attacks with infinite power. Fiamma assimilates the Imagine Breaker into the Holy Right and succeeds in going [[BeyondTheImpossible past infinite power twice over]], [[AbstractApotheosis becoming "He Who Is Above God"]]. However, this unleashes [[EldritchAbomination The Invisible Thing]], an entity so powerful and destructive that [[AlwaysABiggerFish even the now-exponentially-infinite Fiamma is reduced to cowering in fear of being devoured by a presence that is beyond even that]]. Then the Invisible Thing is itself outdone by ''[[SerialEscalation yet another]]'' power within Touma, which ''[[HolyShitQuotient dwarfs the power of The Holy Right, the Imagine Breaker, and the Invisible Thing ]]'''[[HolyShitQuotient combined]]'''''.

** First, Yugi Mutou, to defeat a monster with an infinite attack, brings out all three Egyptian God Cards, then ''sacrifices two of them to make the third one - whose power would've already gone to infinite by the two sacrifices - MoreThanInfinite to crush it.''

** In the real ''[[TabletopGame/YuGiOh Yu-Gi-Oh!]]'' trading card game all of the examples above would lose to The Wicked Avatar, whose ATK is equal to the ATK of the strongest monster on the field [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter plus 100]]. This is put to the test when it's used in the ''Manga/YuGiOhR'' manga; it's able to dominate virtually ''everything'' used against it, including Kaiba's Blue-Eyes and Yugi's Slifer the Sky Dragon (an ''Egyptian God'' whose power level is variable depending on the number of cards in its controller's hand, ''and'' who can reduce an opponent's monster's ATK and DEF by 2000, when that monster's summoned, an ability that, of course, did ''nothing'' to The Wicked Avatar). It was only taken down by Yugi's Obelisk the Tormentor, after it uses its effect to power up its ATK to infinite. However, in this case, it's a ''subversion'', as the game physics for the manga actually follow real-world mathematics and consider "∞ + 1" to still be equal to "∞", meaning both monsters are considered to have equal ATK and, thus, [[DoubleKnockout do each other in]].

** Infinite damage loops tend to end when the thing they're damaging (usually a player) runs out of whatever it is that damage depletes (life for players, loyalty for planeswalkers, or toughness for creatures), or when someone renders the damage irrelevant.
** Infinite loops that perpetuate themselves without any input from players (such as three Faceless Butcher creatures without any other creatures in play, which will repeatedly exile each other and return each other to the battlefield) which don't incrementally progress toward a win condition instead result in a draw if no player can interrupt them.

* ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' is a story about a really powerful bad guy destroying an infinite number of universes one at a time. Because he's just that powerful!

* ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' is a story about a really powerful bad guy destroying an infinite number of universes one at a time.

* ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' is a story about an infinite number of universes getting destroyed one at a time.

* ''Comicbook/TheCrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' is a story about an infinite number of universes getting destroyed one at a time.

-->--'''Yami Yugi''' to Dartz, ''Anime/YuGiOh''

* In the comic SupermanRedSon, Superman is trapped by the Green Lanterns who construct a box made out of infinite layers of other boxes. Superman still breaks out though, [[https://youtu.be/oOc-xHXAjr8?t=43s with just one punch.]]

* ''Series/KamenRiderOOO'' explains that OOO's name is an infinity symbol plus an O; thus, his true power is literally MoreThanInfinite. However, he hasn't yet reached this level.

** First, Yugi Mutou, to defeat a monster with infinite attack, brings out all three Egyptian God Cards, then ''sacrifices two of them to make the third one - whose power would've already gone to infinite by the two sacrifices - MoreThanInfinite to crush it.''

* In the comic SupermanRedSon, Superman is trapped by the Green Lanterns who construct a box made out of infinite layers of other boxes. Superman still breaks out though, with just one punch. [https://youtu.be/oOc-xHXAjr8?t=43s]

* An [[UpToEleven absolutely extreme example]] occurs in ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'', when Touma Kamijou does battle with Fiamma of the Right. Fiamma possesses the Holy Right, which grants him [[TheOmnipotent complete omnipotence and infinite power]]. Touma possesses the Imagine Breaker, which can [[AntiMagic negate anything Touma sees as not normal]], including attacks with infinite power. Fiamma assimilates the Imagine Breaker into the Holy Right and succeeds in going [[BeyondTheImpossible past infinite power twice over]], [[AbstractApotheosis becoming "He Who Is Above God"]].However, this unleashes [[EldritchAbomination The Invisible Thing]], an entity so powerful and destructive that [[AlwaysABiggerFish even the now-exponentially-infinite Fiamma is reduced to cowering in fear of being devoured by a presence that is beyond even that]]. Then the Invisible Thing is itself outdone by ''[[SerialEscalation yet another]]'' power within Touma, which ''[[HolyShitQuotient dwarfs the power of The Holy Right, the Imagine Breaker, and the Invisible Thing ]]'''[[HolyShitQuotient combined]]'''''.

* An [[UpToEleven absolutely extreme example]] occurs in ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex'', when Touma Kamijou does battle with Fiamma of the Right. Fiamma possesses the Holy Right, which grants him [[TheOmnipotent complete omnipotence and infinite power]]. Touma possesses the Imagine Breaker, which can [[AntiMagic negate anything Touma sees as not normal]], including attacks with infinite power. Fiamma assimilates the Imagine Breaker into the Holy Right and succeeds in going [[BeyondTheImpossible past infinite power twice over]], [[AbstractApotheosis becoming "He Who Is Above God"]].However, this unleashes [[EldritchAbomination The Invisible Thing]], an entity so powerful and destructive that [[AlwaysABiggerFish even the now-exponentially-infinite Fiamma is reduced to cowering in fear of being devoured by a presence that is beyond even that]]. Then the Invisible Thing is itself outdone by [[SerialEscalation ''yet another'']] power within Touma, which [[HolyShitQuotient ''dwarfs the power of The Holy Right, the Imagine Breaker, and the Invisible Thing '''combined''''']].

* In the comic SupermanRedSon, Superman is trapped by the Green Lanturns who construct a box made out of infinite layers of other boxes. Superman still breaks out though, with just one punch. [https://youtu.be/oOc-xHXAjr8?t=43s]

[[note]]Minor footnote type thing: It should be noted that there are degrees of infinity; the number of points in a line is less infinite than the number of curves that can be drawn on a plane, but more infinite than the number of integers; this still doesn't make most "more infinite than infinite" plot points make any sense but it's not as absurd as one would think. There's also a notion from mathematics and computer science of something having ''unbounded size'' but still being finite. This means that the thing, call it Attack Power, could grow to any arbitrarily-large finite number on command, but won't become infinite. An unboundedly finite number can still be smaller than any larger number or than any infinity.
In addition, as well as the different infinite sizes of sets (collections of things), there are also the infinities in the ordinal numbers, where omega (the first infinity) is "after" every integer, but still has numbers after it, such as omega plus 1, omega plus 2, etc, omega plus omega (aka 2 omega) 2 omega plus 1, etc,etc,omega squared,etc.[[/note]]

* In the comic RedSon, Superman is trapped by the Green Lanturns who construct a box made out of infinite layers of other boxes. Superman still breaks out though, with just one punch. [https://youtu.be/oOc-xHXAjr8?t=43s]

* ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'': In Deicide, Aizen reaches a level of power that means even captain-class shinigami cannot sense his reiatsu and therefore cannot stop him. Ichigo therefore has to undergo intense training to develop to such a high level that even ''Aizen'' cannot sense his reiatsu. At the end of their fight, both characters were brought down to normal (human norm for Ichigo, shinigami norm for Aizen) to "reset" the story's power levels.