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'''Bottom:''' What [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]] gave us.]]

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'''Bottom:''' What The [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]] gave us.4Kids dub]].]]


-->-- Creator/GregAyres recounting his first meeting with Carl Macek

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-->-- Creator/GregAyres recounting his first meeting with Carl Macek
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'''Bottom:''' What [[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment 4Kids]] gave us.
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Pronounced similarly to "massacre", the term was coined by anime fans from the name of the late producer/writer [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Macek Carl Macek]], whose early "free adaptations" of anime frequently bore little or no resemblance to the original Japanese stories. His usual procedure was to dispose of the original script entirely, and write his own from scratch. This was no ''Anime/SamuraiPizzaCats'', however. He would often combine two or more unrelated series simply in order to have enough episodes to fulfill a syndication deal, the most famous (and successful) of these resulting in ''Anime/{{Robotech}}''. He is particularly reviled for the seemingly xenophobic ruthlessness with which he purged any hint of Japanese culture -- what he euphemistically called "ethnic gestures" -- from the series which he adapted.[[note]]Macek later claimed that many of these changes, including his having to splice together three different series to create ''Robotech'', were a case of ExecutiveMeddling; he was required to force the show to fit syndication-length guidelines, without having complete scripts for any of them, while still making it compelling enough to sell the accompanying toy lines. Trying to tie the three shows together by giving them a unified script was his attempt at meeting these conditions; obviously, this didn't work as well as he hoped. As to the charges of removing "ethnic gestures" from scripts: to be fair to the late Mr. Macek, there is some evidence that his original plan was to have Hikaru Ichijyo/Rick Hunter remain ethnically Japanese, naming him "Rick Yamada".[[/note]]

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Pronounced similarly to "massacre", the term was coined by anime fans from the name of the late producer/writer [[http://en.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Macek Carl Macek]], whose early "free adaptations" of anime frequently bore little or no resemblance to the original Japanese stories. His usual procedure was to dispose of the original script entirely, and write his own from scratch. This was no ''Anime/SamuraiPizzaCats'', however. He would often combine two or more unrelated series simply in order to have enough episodes to fulfill a syndication deal, the most famous (and successful) of these resulting in ''Anime/{{Robotech}}''. He is particularly reviled for the seemingly xenophobic ruthlessness with which he purged any hint of Japanese culture -- what he euphemistically called "ethnic gestures" -- from the series which he adapted.[[note]]Macek later claimed that many of these changes, including his having to splice together three different series to create ''Robotech'', were a case of ExecutiveMeddling; he was required to force the show to fit syndication-length guidelines, without having complete scripts for any of them, while still making it compelling enough to sell the accompanying toy lines. Trying to tie the three shows together by giving them a unified script was his attempt at meeting these conditions; obviously, this didn't work as well as he hoped. As to the charges of removing "ethnic gestures" from scripts: to be fair to the late Mr. Macek, there is some evidence that his original plan was to have Hikaru Ichijyo/Rick Hunter remain ethnically Japanese, naming him "Rick Yamada".[[/note]]


-->-- Creator/GregAyres recounting his first meeting with Carl Macek.

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-->-- Creator/GregAyres recounting his first meeting with Carl Macek.
Macek


'''Carl Macek:''' Oh... So you must think I'm the Antichrist, huh? ''({{Beat}})'' Well, they always shoot the first guy past the finish line.

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'''Carl Macek:''' '''Macek:''' Oh... So you must think I'm the Antichrist, huh? ''({{Beat}})'' Well, they always shoot the first guy past the finish line.


'''Greg Ayres: I like '''''Macross'''''.\\

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'''Greg Ayres: Ayres:''' I like '''''Macross'''''.\\


->'''Carl Macek''': So you like ''Anime/{{Robotech}}''?\\
'''Creator/GregAyres''': I like '''''Anime/{{Macross}}'''''.\\

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->'''Carl Macek''': Macek:''' So you like ''Anime/{{Robotech}}''?\\
'''Creator/GregAyres''':
''Robotech''?\\
'''Greg Ayres:
I like '''''Anime/{{Macross}}'''''.'''''Macross'''''.\\



-->-- Ayres recounting his first meeting with Macek

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-->-- Ayres Creator/GregAyres recounting his first meeting with Macek
Carl Macek.


'''Carl Macek:''' Oh... So you must think I'm the Antichrist, huh? ''({{Beat}}) Well, they always shoot the first guy past the finish line.

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'''Carl Macek:''' Oh... So you must think I'm the Antichrist, huh? ''({{Beat}}) ''({{Beat}})'' Well, they always shoot the first guy past the finish line.


->'''Ichigo:''' Mew Mew Power, I think I'll pass. Your Mew Mew Power, can kiss my a--...\\
'''Mint:''' ''ICHIGO!''
-->-- [[http://pictures.fanart-central.net/w/wlk/504784/wlk-504784-Mew_Mew_Power_vs._Tokyo_Mew_Mew.jpg Fan art]] of ''Manga/TokyoMewMew'' that made the rounds upon the release of ''[[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment Mew Mew Power]]''.

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->'''Ichigo:''' Mew Mew Power, ->'''Carl Macek''': So you like ''Anime/{{Robotech}}''?\\
'''Creator/GregAyres''':
I think I'll pass. Your Mew Mew Power, can kiss my a--...like '''''Anime/{{Macross}}'''''.\\
'''Mint:''' ''ICHIGO!''
'''Carl Macek:''' Oh... So you must think I'm the Antichrist, huh? ''({{Beat}}) Well, they always shoot the first guy past the finish line.
-->-- [[http://pictures.fanart-central.net/w/wlk/504784/wlk-504784-Mew_Mew_Power_vs._Tokyo_Mew_Mew.jpg Fan art]] of ''Manga/TokyoMewMew'' that made the rounds upon the release of ''[[Creator/FourKidsEntertainment Mew Mew Power]]''.
Ayres recounting his first meeting with Macek


->'''Ichigo:''' [=MewMew=] Power, I think I'll pass. Your Mew Mew Power, can kiss my a--...\\

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->'''Ichigo:''' [=MewMew=] Mew Mew Power, I think I'll pass. Your Mew Mew Power, can kiss my a--...\\


->'''Ichigo:''' [=MewMew=] Power, I think I'll Pass. Your Mew Mew Power, Can Kiss My A--...\\

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->'''Ichigo:''' [=MewMew=] Power, I think I'll Pass. pass. Your Mew Mew Power, Can Kiss My A--...can kiss my a--...\\


Over the years, the Macekre has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has lost its luster following [[TechnologyMarchesOn the rise of cable]] and on-demand streaming. Likewise, companies that were prominent for heavy anime edits in the 1970s-2000s have either closed their doors or left the industry, while anime distributors who produce faithful dubs, even for children's television, have taken their place.[[note]]''Franchise/PowerRangers'', while [[{{Toku}} not an anime]], seems to be the sole exception today.[[/note]]

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Over the years, the Macekre has become a DiscreditedTrope as syndicated television has lost its luster following [[TechnologyMarchesOn the rise of cable]] and on-demand streaming. Likewise, companies that were prominent for heavy anime edits in the 1970s-2000s have either closed their doors or left the industry, while anime distributors who produce faithful dubs, even for children's television, have taken their place.[[note]]''Franchise/PowerRangers'', while [[{{Toku}} not an anime]], seems to be the sole exception today.today, likely because to do so would be to produce a show that was very much not ''Power Rangers'' any more.[[/note]]


''No examples, please. This page describes a common emotional reaction to CutAndPasteTranslation; examples of such practices can be found on that page. In addition, keep in mind that Administrivia/TropesAreTools. Some people use such dubs as a GatewaySeries, and the virulent fan reaction against the dubs may puzzle those not familiar with the original version, or even perhaps those that watched the dubs first. Also, the sliding scale of {{Macekre}} varies from person to person; what one may consider [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks bad changes]], another may not mind quite as much.''

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''No examples, please. This page describes a common emotional reaction to CutAndPasteTranslation; examples of such practices can be found on that page. In addition, keep in mind that Administrivia/TropesAreTools. Some people use such dubs as a GatewaySeries, and the virulent fan reaction against the dubs may puzzle those not familiar with the original version, or even perhaps those that watched the dubs first. Also, the sliding scale of {{Macekre}} Macekre varies from person to person; what one may consider [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks bad changes]], another may not mind quite as much.''


''No examples, please. This page describes a common emotional reaction to CutAndPasteTranslation; examples of such practices can be found on that page. In addition, keep in mind that Administrivia/TropesAreTools. Some people use such dubs as a GatewaySeries, and the virulent fan reaction against the dubs may puzzle those not familiar with the original version, or even perhaps those that watched the dubs first. Also, the sliding scale of macekre varies from person to person; what one may consider [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks bad changes]], another may not mind quite as much.''

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''No examples, please. This page describes a common emotional reaction to CutAndPasteTranslation; examples of such practices can be found on that page. In addition, keep in mind that Administrivia/TropesAreTools. Some people use such dubs as a GatewaySeries, and the virulent fan reaction against the dubs may puzzle those not familiar with the original version, or even perhaps those that watched the dubs first. Also, the sliding scale of macekre {{Macekre}} varies from person to person; what one may consider [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks bad changes]], another may not mind quite as much.''

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