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* ''WesternAnimation/DextersLaboratory'' is in a similar boat, and could also be considered a case of TheyChangedItNowItSucks: the show had ended its initial run, while still be very popular, and since its popularity was still evident, CartoonNetwork decided to revive it a few years later. Original creator, Genndy Tartakovsky, was busy with ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' and ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars'', so production was turned over to Chris Savino; not only did all of the characters look significantly different, but the series also went through a ''lot'' of {{Retcon}}ning as well, contradicting the previous incarnation of the series.

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* ''WesternAnimation/DextersLaboratory'' is in a similar boat, and could also be considered a case of TheyChangedItNowItSucks: ''WesternAnimation/DextersLaboratory'': the show had ended its initial run, while still be very popular, and since its popularity was still evident, CartoonNetwork decided to revive it a few years later. Original creator, Genndy Tartakovsky, was busy with ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' and ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars'', so production was turned over to Chris Savino; not only did all of the characters look significantly different, but the series also went through a ''lot'' of {{Retcon}}ning as well, contradicting the previous incarnation of the series.
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* Music/{{Underoath}}'s final album, ''Ø'', was made without founding member Aaron Gillespe, leaving the band with no more original members. Vocalist Spencer Chamberlain took over Aaron's clean singing along with the Harsh Vocals he had been dedicated to for the previous three albums.

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* Music/{{Underoath}}'s final album, ''Ø'', was made without founding member Aaron Gillespe, leaving the band with no more original members. Vocalist Spencer Chamberlain took over Aaron's clean singing along with the Harsh Vocals HarshVocals he had been dedicated to for the previous three albums.
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* ''Series/{{Angel}}'''s fifth and final season involved the protagonists running the BigBad organization Wolfram & Hart. Due to {{Budget Cut}}s, a much greater portion of the episodes took place during the daytime, and {{Long Runn|er}}ing actress Charisma Carpenter was non-present with the exception of one episode that was wholly irrelevant to the series canon.


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* ''Series/{{House}}'' began two of the last three seasons with {{Two Part Episode}}s dedicated to the title character escaping a mental institution and prison, respectively. He also ended up in a romantic relationship with [[TheRival Dr. Cuddy]], who was completely absent for the final season along with most of the original cast.


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* Music/{{Underoath}}'s final album, ''Ø'', was made without founding member Aaron Gillespe, leaving the band with no more original members. Vocalist Spencer Chamberlain took over Aaron's clean singing along with the Harsh Vocals he had been dedicated to for the previous three albums.
* Music/{{Carcass}} was initially a {{Grindcore}}/DeathMetal act for their first three of their five studio releases. 1994's ''Heartwork'' took a shift towards a more conventional style that became one of the biggest influences on MelodicDeathMetal and other subgenres (such as {{Metalcore}} and ProgressiveMetal), and ''[[MeaningfulName Swansong]]'' was a complete departure, being comprised of {{Blues}}-influenced HeavyMetal with discrete Death Metal aesthetics.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerry'' are most famous for the original shorts done by William Hanna and Joseph Barbera in the 40's and 50's. After they left MGM, the series was sent overseas to cartoonist Gene Deitch, whose often bizarre shorts bordered on DerangedAnimation. Later on Chuck Jones took over the series, giving the characters a redesign, and plot-wise making them more like his Roadrunner cartoons at Warner Bros. Every adaptation since then likely falls under this trope as well.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerry'' are most famous for the original shorts done by William Hanna and Joseph Barbera in the 40's 40s and 50's.50s. After they left MGM, the series was sent overseas to cartoonist Gene Deitch, whose often bizarre shorts bordered on DerangedAnimation. Later on Chuck Jones took over the series, giving the characters a redesign, and plot-wise making them more like his Roadrunner cartoons at Warner Bros. Every adaptation since then likely falls under this trope as well.
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* ''Series/StargateSG1'', where the primary enemies the Goa'uld were diminished in threat by the end of the seventh season, and the eighth season opened establishing a new BigBad in the Ori. In addition there were several cast changes as Richard Dean Anderson left the show and only came back in sporadic guest appearances. The show's last few seasons happened to follow the endings of several other beloved sci-fi shows, and the show imported actors from those shows, most notably Ben Browder and Claudia Black from ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' and Jewel Staite from ''Series/{{Firefly}}''. As such, the show was suddenly rife with heaps of HeyItsThatGuy.

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* ''Series/StargateSG1'', where the primary enemies the Goa'uld were diminished in threat by the end of the seventh eighth season, and the eighth ninth season opened establishing a new BigBad in the Ori. In addition there were several cast changes as Richard Dean Anderson left the show and only came back in sporadic guest appearances. The show's last few seasons happened to follow the endings of several other beloved sci-fi shows, and the show imported actors from those shows, most notably Ben Browder and Claudia Black from ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' and Jewel Staite from ''Series/{{Firefly}}''. As such, the show was suddenly rife with heaps of HeyItsThatGuy.
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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9l%C3%A9roman teleroman]] ''Series/{{Virginie}}'' had a weird case of LongRunnerCastTurnover in 2007 when the CharacterTitle [[PassingTheTorch passed the torch]] to a younger Virginie teaching at the same school. The show was running since september 1996 and already broke the longevity record for Quebec fictionalized television with its 1221'st episode in 2006 when the actress decided to quit.
* The final season of ''Series/WindAtMyBack'' is usually regarded as an unusual point in the series' run, mostly due in part to addition of a new head writer who, apparently, wasn't even really familiar enough with the show, or its characters, to continue their stories in a direction that reflected the previous four seasons.

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* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9l%C3%A9roman teleroman]] ''Series/{{Virginie}}'' ''Virginie'' had a weird case of LongRunnerCastTurnover in 2007 when the CharacterTitle [[PassingTheTorch passed the torch]] to a younger Virginie teaching at the same school. The show was running since september 1996 and already broke the longevity record for Quebec fictionalized television with its 1221'st episode in 2006 when the actress decided to quit.
* The final season of ''Series/WindAtMyBack'' ''Wind At My Back'' is usually regarded as an unusual point in the series' run, mostly due in part to addition of a new head writer who, apparently, wasn't even really familiar enough with the show, or its characters, to continue their stories in a direction that reflected the previous four seasons.



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' has been widely considered to have hit staleness in the last few years, and continues to grow more and more stale: many stories come across as displaying a lack of any fresh ideas; characters are suddenly given quirks or characteristics they never had before (i.e. Buster's thumbsucking habit, Brain having been held back in kindergarten, Binky suddenly having peanut allergies, Francine having stage fright); countless DropInCharacter[=s=] being added unnecessarily; episodes about characters having a disease or sickness becoming a OnceASeason thing; CelebrityStar[=s=] also being a OnceASeason, whether as caricatures or blatant parodies; {{Retcon}}s becoming more commonplace, leading to SeriesContinuityError[=s=]; and the switch to Flash animation seems to be the icing on the cake for many.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' has been widely considered to have hit staleness in the last few years, and continues to grow more and more stale: many stories come across as displaying a lack of any fresh ideas; characters are suddenly given quirks or characteristics they never had before (i.e. Buster's thumbsucking habit, Brain having been held back in kindergarten, Binky suddenly having peanut allergies, Francine having stage fright); countless DropInCharacter[=s=] being added unnecessarily; episodes about characters having a disease or sickness becoming a OnceASeason thing; CelebrityStar[=s=] also being a OnceASeason, whether as caricatures or blatant parodies; {{Retcon}}s becoming more commonplace, leading to SeriesContinuityError[=s=]; replacing the classic animated title card sequences with brief previews of the respective episodes; and the switch to Flash animation seems to be the icing on the cake for many.
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* The later [[WesternAnimation/TexAveryMGMCartoons Droopy]] cartoons made after Creator/TexAvery left MGM can be a bit jarring, as they are done in LimitedAnimation with neither the Wolf nor Butch/Spike as antagonists, the madcap slapstick humor is severely scaled back, and worst of all, Droopy's face is no longer "droopy".

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* The later [[WesternAnimation/TexAveryMGMCartoons Droopy]] WesternAnimation/{{Droopy}} cartoons made after Creator/TexAvery left MGM can be a bit jarring, as they are done in LimitedAnimation with neither the Wolf nor Butch/Spike as antagonists, the madcap slapstick humor is severely scaled back, and worst of all, Droopy's face is no longer "droopy".
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* The later episodes of ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'''s first run definitely qualify as this, staring with the ''MoulinRouge'' review in November 2011 (the point where Doug realized that he was ready to move on from the Critic). From there the reviews became more analytical as opposed to just fake ranting, he started covering more high profile nostalgic films (such as ''Film/HowTheGrinchStoleChristmas'' and ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom''), and most of the videos became either crossovers with other Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses reviewers or filled with cameos up until the end of the show's run in June 2012 (and [[WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee the official end of the character]] in August). The episodes done after the series' [[{{Uncancelled}} revival]] in February 2013 have more or less picked up this approach, with the addition of a larger cast and the Critic reviewing newer, non-nostalgic films as well.

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* The later episodes of ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'''s first run definitely qualify as this, staring with the ''MoulinRouge'' review in November 2011 (the point where the show's creator Doug Walker realized that he was ready to move on from the Critic). From there the reviews became more analytical as opposed to just fake ranting, he started covering more high profile nostalgic films (such as ''Film/HowTheGrinchStoleChristmas'' and ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom''), and most of the videos became either crossovers with other Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses reviewers or filled with cameos up until the end of the show's run in June 2012 (and [[WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee the official end of the character]] in August). The episodes done after the series' [[{{Uncancelled}} revival]] in February 2013 have more or less picked up this approach, with the addition of a larger cast and the Critic reviewing newer, non-nostalgic films as well.
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* ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'' received a major ReTool after Doug Walker decided to [[{{Uncancelled}} revive]] the series just a few months after he announced he was ended it. Since then, the Critic started reviewing new movies (though [[WordOfGod Doug's policy is he won't review movies still in theaters]]).

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* ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'' received a major ReTool The later episodes of ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'''s first run definitely qualify as this, staring with the ''MoulinRouge'' review in November 2011 (the point where Doug realized that he was ready to move on from the Critic). From there the reviews became more analytical as opposed to just fake ranting, he started covering more high profile nostalgic films (such as ''Film/HowTheGrinchStoleChristmas'' and ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheTempleOfDoom''), and most of the videos became either crossovers with other Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses reviewers or filled with cameos up until the end of the show's run in June 2012 (and [[WebVideo/ToBoldlyFlee the official end of the character]] in August). The episodes done after Doug Walker decided to the series' [[{{Uncancelled}} revive]] revival]] in February 2013 have more or less picked up this approach, with the series just addition of a few months after he announced he was ended it. Since then, larger cast and the Critic started reviewing new movies (though [[WordOfGod Doug's policy is he won't review movies still in theaters]]).newer, non-nostalgic films as well.
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* ''WebVideo/JeepersMedia''. Specifically, Mike Mozart's videos. Starting around 2011, Mike had pretty much stopped doing toy reviews, and instead made increasingly more rant videos, usually against bigger media corporations like Creator/{{Viacom}}, but he also got very political as well. This continued for about a year, then he began doing new toy review videos, which contained a ''lot'' more adult jokes and wordplay than older reviews, in addition to other Jeepers Media folk joining in on the reviews as well. It's also clear that by this point, Mike's mindset went from DoingItForTheArt to MoneyDearBoy.
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* ''Series/{{MASH}}''. Although the subject of SeasonalRot has always been up for debate, it's often agreed that the show's ultimate turn for the worse began with Season Eight: by that time, Alan Alda and Burt Metcalfe had completely overhauled the production staff and replaced almost all of the writers, shifting the tone of the show from a sitcom with dramatic undertones to a drama with comedic undertones; with CerebusSyndrome set in, as well the loss of Radar and an end to Klinger's Section 8 schemes - including running around in dresses ([[WordOfGod even Harry Morgan once remarked, "When we lost Radar, we essentially lost Klinger as well"]]), the last four seasons are much regarded as an almost entirely different show altogether.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerry'' are most famous for the original shorts done by William Hanna and Joseph Barbera in the 40's and 50's. After they left MGM, the series was sent overseas to cartoonist Gene Deitch, whose often bizarre shorts bordered on DerangedAnimation. Later on Chuck Jones took over the series, giving the characters a redesign, and plot-wise making them more like his Roadrunner cartoons at Warner Bros. Every adaptation since then likely falls under this trope as well.
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* Fans of ''TheRailwaySeries'' may be taken aback by later episodes of ''ThomasTheTankEngine'', which not only seize adapting stories from the books, but have a much DenserAndWackier narrative, transitioned from model puppetry to CGI animation (with all the cast fully voiced and animated) and have altered several characters in role and personality (or disposed of them altogether in favor of numerous more gimmicky new ones).

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* Fans of ''TheRailwaySeries'' may be taken aback by later episodes of ''ThomasTheTankEngine'', which not only seize cease adapting stories from the books, but have a much DenserAndWackier narrative, transitioned from model puppetry to CGI animation (with all the cast fully voiced and animated) and have altered several characters in role and personality (or disposed of them altogether in favor of numerous more gimmicky new ones).

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* ''Series/{{Stargate SG1}}'', where their primary enemies in the Goa'uld were diminished in threat by the end of the seventh season and the eighth season opened establishing a new BigBad in the Ori. In addition there were several cast changes as Richard Dean Anderson left the show and only came back in sporadic guest appearances.
** The show's last few seasons happened to follow the endings of several other beloved sci-fi shows, and the show imported actors from those shows, most notably Ben Browder and Claudia Black from ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' and Jewel Staite from ''Series/{{Firefly}}''. As such, the show was suddenly rife with heaps of HeyItsThatGuy.

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* ''Series/{{Stargate SG1}}'', ''Series/StargateSG1'', where their the primary enemies in the Goa'uld were diminished in threat by the end of the seventh season season, and the eighth season opened establishing a new BigBad in the Ori. In addition there were several cast changes as Richard Dean Anderson left the show and only came back in sporadic guest appearances. \n** The show's last few seasons happened to follow the endings of several other beloved sci-fi shows, and the show imported actors from those shows, most notably Ben Browder and Claudia Black from ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' and Jewel Staite from ''Series/{{Firefly}}''. As such, the show was suddenly rife with heaps of HeyItsThatGuy.
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* ''Series/{{Baywatch}} Nights'': The series started as a SpinOff of the original ''Baywatch'' with a GenreShift towards detective stories, with Mitch and other characters opening a detective agency and solving mysteries. Soon afterwards it did a ReTool [[FollowTheLeader following the then-leader]] that was ''TheXFiles'' and had the characters (veteran lifeguards and police officers ''before'' becoming P.Is.) battling supernatural [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monsters Of The Week]]. It was cancelled shortly after.

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* ''Series/{{Baywatch}} Nights'': The series started as a SpinOff of the original ''Baywatch'' with a GenreShift towards detective stories, with Mitch and other characters opening a detective agency and solving mysteries. Soon afterwards it did a ReTool [[FollowTheLeader following the then-leader]] that was ''TheXFiles'' ''Series/TheXFiles'' and had the characters (veteran lifeguards and police officers ''before'' becoming P.Is.) battling supernatural [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monsters Of The Week]]. It was cancelled shortly after.
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' has been widely considered to have hit staleness in the last few years, and continues to grow more and more stale: many stories come across as displaying a lack of any fresh ideas; characters are suddenly given quirks or characteristics they never had before (i.e. Buster's thumbsucking habit, Brain having been held back in kindergarten, Binky suddenly having peanut allergies, Francine having stage fright); countless {{DropInCharacter}}s being added unnecessarily; episodes about characters having a disease or sickness becoming a OnceASeason thing; {{CelebrityStar}}s also being a OnceASeason, whether as caricatures or blatant parodies; {{Retcon}}s becoming more commonplace, leading to {{SeriesContinuityError}}s; and the switch to Flash animation seems to be the icing on the cake for many.

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* After the second season, JohnKricfalusi was fired from ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'' for not meeting episode deadlines and writing episodes that were deemed too violent. Nickelodeon created its own animation studio (Games Animation), and Bob Camp took over as showrunner. Ren went from a JerkWithAHeartOfGold to a JerkWithAHeartOfJerk, and Stimpy went from merely TheDitz to TooDumbToLive. The Games staff even made an episode parodying the creation of the show and the change in staff ("Reverend Jack").

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While this can be subjective like SeasonalRot, Later Installment Weirdness is a point in the work's run that is more universally panned by both fans and critic (see also CriticalDissonance). Compare JumpingTheShark, where a single moment in a series' run is considered the show's turn for the worse.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003'': Had a very strong sense of continuity and had several episodes and arcs that were faithful adaptions of the original Mirage Comics up until season 4. Season 5 (The Lost Episodes) continued where season 4 left off but could be considered a JumpingTheShark point with an original mystical storyline and retcons to prior seasons. Season 6 (Fast Forward) was a Retool with the main cast getting flung 100 years into the future with a major tone shift from dramatic action to comedic action, and Season 7 (Back To The Sewer) was a retool bring them back to the present but losing a lot of the original charm and congruence with the comics that the first 4 seasons had, being more similar to Fast Forward's tone.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003'': Had a very strong sense of continuity and had several episodes and arcs that were faithful adaptions of the original Mirage Comics up until season 4. Season 5 (The Lost Episodes) continued where season 4 left off but could be considered a JumpingTheShark point with an original mystical storyline and retcons to prior seasons. Season 6 (Fast Forward) was a Retool with the main cast getting flung 100 years into the future with a major tone shift from dramatic action to comedic action, and Season 7 (Back To The Sewer) was a retool bring them back to the present but losing a lot of the original charm and congruence with the comics that the first 4 seasons had, being more similar to Fast Forward's tone.tone.
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* The final Harry Potter book is the only one that doesn't mainly take place on Hogwarts, instead having the protagonists travel around Britain for most of the plot. This is a big departure in setting and formula compared to the previous books.

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* ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'' received a major ReTool after Doug Walker decided to [[TheRival revive]] the series just a few months after he announced he was ended it. Since then, the Critic started reviewing new movies (though [[WordOfGod Doug's policy is he won't review movies still in theaters]]), the new episodes also feature {{DropInCharacter}}s from other Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses producers, new episodes also feature comedy sketches peppered throughout the review.

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* ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'' received a major ReTool after Doug Walker decided to [[TheRival [[{{Uncancelled}} revive]] the series just a few months after he announced he was ended it. Since then, the Critic started reviewing new movies (though [[WordOfGod Doug's policy is he won't review movies still in theaters]]), the new episodes also feature {{DropInCharacter}}s from other Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses producers, new episodes also feature comedy sketches peppered throughout the review.
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EarlyInstallmentWeirdness is a case in which a LongRunner's earlier episodes or seasons differ significantly, mainly due to the series' experimenting with different factors until it manages to find its voice and tone, and stabilize to the point where it becomes the kind of series its known and love for.

However, this kind of thing can happen to a LongRunner again after a certain amount of time. When this happens, viewers, and sometimes critics alike, are left scratching their heads at the turn of events. Is this the same show they've watched for so long? What happened? A number of factors could be at play here: the tone of a series may steer off course, taking a turn towards CerebusSyndrome, or perhaps DenserAndWackier; it could also stem from a loss of some of the original key creative people, and an addition of new writers and producers; it could also be the result of a series suffering from age, and the writing staff not even knowing what to do with the show anymore as just about every possible scenario and situation has already been done.

In cases of Later Installment Weirdness, you may also come to find certain kinds of episodes to become more commonplace, such as {{Bizarro Episode}}s, [[AVerySpecialEpisode unusual special episodes]], or [[AndNowForSomethingCompletelyDifferent episodes that break away from the series' typical premise]]. {{Recurring Character}}s and other minor supporting characters may also [[ADayInTheLimelight find themselves carrying the show]] [[OutOfFocus rather than the series' usual major cast]].

While this can be subjective like SeasonalRot, Later Installment Weirdness is a point in the work's run that is more universally panned by both fans and critic (see also CriticalDissonance). Compare JumpingTheShark, where a single moment in a series' run is considered the show's turn for the worse.

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!!''Examples''
[[AC: ComicBooks]]
* After Creator/BrianKVaughan left ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'', the series struggled to find a consistent theme. First there was a time-travel arc, then an arc involving the Majesdanians trying to capture Karolina for her role in the destruction of their planet, then an arc where a Creator/HowardStern expy tries to initiate a ZombieApocalypse in Los Angeles, and finally the DarkerAndEdgier "Homeschooling" arc, which turned into such a mess that Marvel put the series on more-or-less permanent hiatus...

[[AC: {{Film}}]]
* ''Film/HomeAlone''. Both ''Home Alone 4'' and ''Home Alone 5'' differ significantly from the first three, starting with the fact that both are TV movies that were made without John Hughes' involvement. 4 recasts the original characters with different actors and {{Retcon}}s a lot of the family's original dynamics (the parents are divorced, Kevin's older siblings are closer to his own age), Harry is replaced with Marv's girlfriend, while Marv looks and acts like Harry. 5 was made well after the series was considered finished, and involves an entirely different cast of characters (much like 3, but John Hughes wrote and produced that one).

[[AC: {{Literature}}]]
* The novel ''Final Fantasy X 2.5'' has a part where Tidus kicks a bomb that he thought was a blitzball, resulting in his body exploding and his head flying through the air and landing at Yuna's feet.
* The last book of Literature/SherlockHolmes stories (which were previously always written in first person from Watson's POV) feature two stories narrated by Sherlock Holmes himself (though still presented as his memoirs), one that was basically a play, and one in third-person narration.
* The last book in the ''Literature/VenusPrime'' series is very thematically and stylistically different from the previous five. Most of its events are narrated in the first person by Prof. Forster, Sparta and Blake are seen entirely through other characters' eyes, and at one point, they and Forster go back in time to Ancient Mycenae. At another point, the book awkwardly diverts for three chapters to a first-person account by Klaus Muller, a Swiss deep-sea engineer who stumbles across the world ship.

[[AC: LiveActionTV]]
* ''Series/{{Baywatch}} Nights'': The series started as a SpinOff of the original ''Baywatch'' with a GenreShift towards detective stories, with Mitch and other characters opening a detective agency and solving mysteries. Soon afterwards it did a ReTool [[FollowTheLeader following the then-leader]] that was ''TheXFiles'' and had the characters (veteran lifeguards and police officers ''before'' becoming P.Is.) battling supernatural [[MonsterOfTheWeek Monsters Of The Week]]. It was cancelled shortly after.
* ''Series/BostonPublic'' started off featuring things that regularly happen in inner city high schools. Later seasons had really weird things happen, like a student getting electrocuted and thinking he's Jesus.
* By it's final couple of the seasons the original run of ''Series/{{Dallas}}'' had lost most of its classic era cast with the exception of JR Ewing himself, Bobby, Cliff and a few minor supporting characters, greatly eroding the BigScrewedUpFamily nature of show. The combination of a mostly new and younger cast, different locations, soapier storylines in general and in the finale an outright shift into the supernatural with an ItsAWonderfulPlot ending made late ''Dallas'' a very different animal to the beast it had been in its prime.
* ''Series/TheDrewCareyShow'' saw a number of major differences in its last two season, especially the final season. Many of the show's major characters were written off for various different reasons; Drew, Mimi, and Mr. Wick are now working for an entirely different company (Mr. Wick in particular is now a janitor and tries working his way back up to the top of the corporate ladder); the show goes through three different new theme songs; the show switched from a multi-camera StudioAudience format to a single-camera LaughTrack format, which also resulted in ChaosArchitecture with the sets; and plots became a tad absurd, such as Mimi's house being burned down to force her into moving in with Drew.
* ''Series/FantasyIsland'': In early seasons it was just about people fulfilling their fantasies, albeit with some FridgeLogic about how Mr. Rourke managed to pull some of it off. By the final season the show was dropping some pretty heavy hints that Rourke was an actual angel of the Lord.
* A mild example is the last seasons of ''Series/MacGyver'': while it remained a show about a ScienceHero (and the TropeNamer for MacGyvering), situations where he had to use his skills included defusing a ScoobyDooHoax regarding Bigfoot, a TimeTravel OrWasItADream episode where he went back to the Middle Ages and had to adventure alongside Merlin, an adventure that took place ''in the afterlife''...
* ''Series/MiamiVice'''s final seasons also included an escalation in odd episodes, such as one of the characters [[AlienAbduction being abducted by aliens]] (the leader of which was [[WhatTheHellCastingAgency played by]] JamesBrown), a group of drug dealers doing a ScoobyDooHoax regarding ghosts to try to keep people away from their operation (and the ghost being probably RealAfterAll), Sonny going through EasyAmnesia (and temporarily becoming a bad guy) in one episode, a couple of "comedy" episodes where the Vice detectives had to deal with borderline-murderous [[GambitPileup Gambit Pileups]] regarding the purchase of unusual items (a prize bull's semen in one, the HumanPopsicle remains of a famous singer in another) from the same ButtMonkey ConMan snitch...
* Fans of ''TheRailwaySeries'' may be taken aback by later episodes of ''ThomasTheTankEngine'', which not only seize adapting stories from the books, but have a much DenserAndWackier narrative, transitioned from model puppetry to CGI animation (with all the cast fully voiced and animated) and have altered several characters in role and personality (or disposed of them altogether in favor of numerous more gimmicky new ones).
* ''Series/{{Roseanne}}'' was a show about a lower class blue collar family trying to make ends meet. Then in the final season they win a huge lottery and the basic premise for the show was never heard from again. The GrandFinale also [[TheReveal reveals]] that the events of the entire series turned out to all be a book that Roseanne was writing, making the last season fall under MentalStory as well.
* ''Series/SabrinaTheTeenageWitch'' got this way with its seventh season due to the departure of long-standing regulars Hilda and Zelda Spellman, that it didn't take place with Sabrina still in school, and that the house set Sabrina lived in had changed noticeably despite being implied to be the same location.
* ''Series/SanfordAndSon'''s last couple of seasons are often regarded by many fans as being weaker and sillier compared to its earlier seasons, mainly due to the departure of the show's original black writers and producers, and replacing them with Jewish writers and producers, causing the show to lose its original authentic urban edge and ethnic vibe that made it such a stand-out and groundbreaking series (for its day) and instead relying on standard sitcom fluff and hijinks.
* The 8th season of ''Series/{{Scrubs}}'' came with a mandate that each character had to have one episode being gone, so almost every episode had at least one missing character. The 9th season was more of a full-fledged retool that had a new cast of characters take priority while the previous cast was seen more sparingly or in leadership roles.
* The last two seasons of ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'' have often been panned by viewers and critics alike; with the departure of series co-creator and ShowRunner Larry David, many have complained that the storylines became increasingly absurd, far-fetched, and unbelievable.
* ''Series/{{Stargate SG1}}'', where their primary enemies in the Goa'uld were diminished in threat by the end of the seventh season and the eighth season opened establishing a new BigBad in the Ori. In addition there were several cast changes as Richard Dean Anderson left the show and only came back in sporadic guest appearances.
** The show's last few seasons happened to follow the endings of several other beloved sci-fi shows, and the show imported actors from those shows, most notably Ben Browder and Claudia Black from ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' and Jewel Staite from ''Series/{{Firefly}}''. As such, the show was suddenly rife with heaps of HeyItsThatGuy.
* ''Series/TilDeath'' got downright surreal in its final season when nobody was watching, including Doug realizing he's a character in a sitcom & his girlfriend keeps getting recast, Mayim Bialik as a therapist who is really Mayim Bialik in a reality show, and other bizarre adventures.
* ''WalkerTexasRanger:'' By its final seasons, it was still an action-adventure series based on Texas, but many odd episodes occured, including several [[VerySpecialEpisode Very Special Episodes]] with faith-based special guests, rampaging evil spirits, an AllJustADream episode occurring on the Old West, people stealing super-weapons [[CutLexLuthorACheck to use to take on Walker]], an episode where Walker and friends must find a missing kid that is being helped by a stereotypical RobotBuddy, and the final episode featuring as a foe a [[GeneticEngineeringIsTheNewNuke genetically-engineered]] ImplacableMan SuperSoldier who's creation was funded by a RightWingMilitiaFanatic group.
* The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C3%A9l%C3%A9roman teleroman]] ''Series/{{Virginie}}'' had a weird case of LongRunnerCastTurnover in 2007 when the CharacterTitle [[PassingTheTorch passed the torch]] to a younger Virginie teaching at the same school. The show was running since september 1996 and already broke the longevity record for Quebec fictionalized television with its 1221'st episode in 2006 when the actress decided to quit.
* The final season of ''Series/WindAtMyBack'' is usually regarded as an unusual point in the series' run, mostly due in part to addition of a new head writer who, apparently, wasn't even really familiar enough with the show, or its characters, to continue their stories in a direction that reflected the previous four seasons.

[[AC: VideoGames]]
* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds'' gives Link access to all items from Ravio's shop, rather than the dungeons.
* ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword'' has a few oddities in relation to previous games in the series. Link starts with six hearts instead of three, his dash motion is regulated by a stamina meter, the dungeons have all their own entrance cutscenes, lack compasses (the maps retain their properties) and boss keys (replaced instead with special objects that have to be assembled correctly into the boss gates). It's also the only ''Zelda'' game since the NES and SNES games where certain bosses are fought more than once, and one of the only ones along with ''The Adventure of Link'' and ''Majora's Mask'' where the Boomerang doesn't exist as an item (the Beetle serves its function instead). The exploration of the overworld's areas are more puzzle-based, as in the dungeons, and the saving process is relied on Bird Statues rather than a pause menu feature. Since the game still plays functionally like the others in the series, it's still far from an OddballInTheSeries.
* In ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona'', you need to face your shadow in order to gain usage of your Persona, right? Actually, that feature debuted in ''{{VideoGame/Persona4}}''.
** Social links aren't much older, either. They first appeared in ''{{VideoGame/Persona3}}''.

[[AC: {{Webcomics}}]]
* ''Webcomic/WapsiSquare'' started out as just a girl in her hometown and her hijinks with her friends, but after a couple years, it became mystical with a little bit of the mundane stuff happening still. Like Monica learned to teleport and didn't think anything of it.

[[AC: WebOriginals]]
* ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'' received a major ReTool after Doug Walker decided to [[TheRival revive]] the series just a few months after he announced he was ended it. Since then, the Critic started reviewing new movies (though [[WordOfGod Doug's policy is he won't review movies still in theaters]]), the new episodes also feature {{DropInCharacter}}s from other Website/ThatGuyWithTheGlasses producers, new episodes also feature comedy sketches peppered throughout the review.

[[AC: WesternAnimation]]
* ''WesternAnimation/AlvinAndTheChipmunks''. Since the DiC episodes (including The Chipmunks Go to the Movies) were not seen in reruns for a long period of time, and have had limited episodes released on DVD, it can be a rather disorienting experience for those who are most accustomed to the Ruby-Spears, and the Murakumi-Wolf-Swenson episodes. Also considering the storylines by the DiC era were becoming far more over-the-top cartoony and less believable ("Dear Diary" is a good example). The Chipmunks Go to the Movies especially are just Plain Weird Installment Weirdness.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'' has been widely considered to have hit staleness in the last few years, and continues to grow more and more stale: many stories come across as displaying a lack of any fresh ideas; characters are suddenly given quirks or characteristics they never had before (i.e. Buster's thumbsucking habit, Brain having been held back in kindergarten, Binky suddenly having peanut allergies, Francine having stage fright); countless {{DropInCharacter}}s being added unnecessarily; episodes about characters having a disease or sickness becoming a OnceASeason thing; {{CelebrityStar}}s also being a OnceASeason, whether as caricatures or blatant parodies; {{Retcon}}s becoming more commonplace, leading to {{SeriesContinuityError}}s; and the switch to Flash animation seems to be the icing on the cake for many.
* The final season of ''WesternAnimation/{{Babar}}'' was an unusual case, as it aired nine years after the previous season ended. It dropped the previous setting and instead focused on the cast travelling around the world in a balloon. It's a wonder that it was officially considered part of the same series rather than its own installment like the later ''WesternAnimation/BabarAndTheAdventuresOfBadou''.
* The final season of ''WesternAnimation/CaptainPlanetAndThePlaneteers'', which not only gave the Planeteers new outfits and designs, but also replaced its OpeningNarration with a ThemeTuneRap.
* ''WesternAnimation/DextersLaboratory'' is in a similar boat, and could also be considered a case of TheyChangedItNowItSucks: the show had ended its initial run, while still be very popular, and since its popularity was still evident, CartoonNetwork decided to revive it a few years later. Original creator, Genndy Tartakovsky, was busy with ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'' and ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsCloneWars'', so production was turned over to Chris Savino; not only did all of the characters look significantly different, but the series also went through a ''lot'' of {{Retcon}}ning as well, contradicting the previous incarnation of the series.
* ''WesternAnimation/EdEddNEddy''. After the series was UnCancelled, the show's format suddenly shifted from being perpetual summer vacation, to having the cul-de-sac kids in school; also, between the {{Flanderization}} of almost all of the characters, and the lack of enthusiam from the cast and crew, the last two seasons miss the spark of the original four seasons that made the show such a popular hit.
* The final season of ''WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}}'' was made by a different staff of writers, and its tone is noticeably different. Each episodes starts an opening narration by Goliath, the episodes are more self contained and less focused on an overarching story, and the characters personalities are slightly different than they use to be, most notably with David Xanatos.
* After the movie, Craig [=McCracken=] left ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls'' to create ''WesternAnimation/FostersHomeForImaginaryFriends''. Chris Savino took over, and the show became more or less a gag comedy instead of a lighthearted action show. The show also switched to AdobeFlash animation.
* After the second season, JohnKricfalusi was fired from ''WesternAnimation/TheRenAndStimpyShow'' for not meeting episode deadlines and writing episodes that were deemed too violent. Nickelodeon created its own animation studio (Games Animation), and Bob Camp took over as showrunner. Ren went from a JerkWithAHeartOfGold to a JerkWithAHeartOfJerk, and Stimpy went from merely TheDitz to TooDumbToLive. The Games staff even made an episode parodying the creation of the show and the change in staff ("Reverend Jack").
* ''WesternAnimation/SpongeBobSquarePants'': After its movie, the creator, Stephen Hillenburg, retired as supervising director and Paul Tibbitt took over. In addition, most of the show's original writing staff left to work on other cartoons. The new writing staff had little to no experience with the charcters, and as a result, the entire main cast was Flanderized to ridiculous extremes. The animation also switched to 3D computer coloring as opposed to digital ink-and-paint.
* ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987'' where the last few seasons came to be noted as the "Red Sky" seasons and switched the BigBad from Shredder and Krang to Lord Dregg.
* ''WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2003'': Had a very strong sense of continuity and had several episodes and arcs that were faithful adaptions of the original Mirage Comics up until season 4. Season 5 (The Lost Episodes) continued where season 4 left off but could be considered a JumpingTheShark point with an original mystical storyline and retcons to prior seasons. Season 6 (Fast Forward) was a Retool with the main cast getting flung 100 years into the future with a major tone shift from dramatic action to comedic action, and Season 7 (Back To The Sewer) was a retool bring them back to the present but losing a lot of the original charm and congruence with the comics that the first 4 seasons had, being more similar to Fast Forward's tone.

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