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* This was the defense used by [[UsefulNotes/MarvelComicsEditorsInChief EIC Roy Thomas]] in the letters column defending ''ComicBook/TheNightGwenStacyDied''. Thomas said that Gwen's death was the only logical way her relationship with Peter Parker could go would be to get married, and that would age him more than than they wanted. The reality was that editors killed off Gwen because they, and a majority of readers, thought she was a bland disposable character.

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* This was the defense used by [[UsefulNotes/MarvelComicsEditorsInChief [[MediaNotes/MarvelComicsEditorsInChief EIC Roy Thomas]] in the letters column defending ''ComicBook/TheNightGwenStacyDied''. Thomas said that Gwen's death was the only logical way her relationship with Peter Parker could go would be to get married, and that would age him more than than they wanted. The reality was that editors killed off Gwen because they, and a majority of readers, thought she was a bland disposable character.

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* Creator/StephenKing:
** This is a running theme in the final arc of ''Franchise/TheDarkTower'' series. The author shows how real the story is by giving the characters so much life that he himself appears as a character. It works partly because he's distinctly unflattering to himself. In the [[Literature/TheWindThroughTheKeyhole final book]], he starts leaving the characters little notes in medicine cabinets as an acknowledged deus ex machina -- he knows what happens and so can warn them, but says repeatedly that he's sure as hell not making it happen. [[spoiler: The most significant moment is the very end of the series, where Roland is sent back to the beginning to start his quest for the Tower anew (albeit with the [[RayOfHopeEnding ray of hope]] that this time will his last of his loops). King acknowledged it wasn't the ending he wanted, but it was the only one that fit.]]
** This is King's usual style of writing--put people with certain personalities in certain situations, then extrapolate what they would do. In ''On Writing'' he compares it to digging something up rather than making it. (He can write in the "make it up" style, but with the exception of ''Literature/TheDeadZone'' he usually dislikes the results.)

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* Creator/StephenKing:
Creator/StephenKing:This is King's usual style of writing--put people with certain personalities in certain situations, then extrapolate what they would do. In ''On Writing'' he compares it to digging something up rather than making it. (He can write in the "make it up" style, but with the exception of ''Literature/TheDeadZone'' he usually dislikes the results.) He gives the specific example of ''Literature/SalemsLot'', which he intended to end with the vampires triumphant. His characters surprised him by refusing to roll over and die, and demanded to be heroes instead. So, he says, he let them, and never regretted it.
** This is a running theme in the final arc of ''Franchise/TheDarkTower'' series. The author shows how real the story is by giving the characters so much life that he himself appears as a character. It works partly because he's distinctly unflattering to himself. In the [[Literature/TheWindThroughTheKeyhole final book]], he starts leaving the characters little notes in medicine cabinets as an acknowledged deus ex machina -- he knows what happens and so can warn them, but says repeatedly that he's sure as hell not making it happen. [[spoiler: The most significant moment is the very end of the series, where Roland is sent back to the beginning to start his quest for the Tower anew (albeit with the [[RayOfHopeEnding ray of hope]] that this time will his be the last of his loops). King acknowledged it wasn't the ending he wanted, but it was the only one that fit.]]
** This is King's usual style of writing--put people with certain personalities in certain situations, then extrapolate what they would do. In ''On Writing'' he compares it to digging something up rather than making it. (He can write in the "make it up" style, but with the exception of ''Literature/TheDeadZone'' he usually dislikes the results.)
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** He's also talked about how authors have both "architect and gardener" impulses in themselves. Where Architects have a plan before starting to build "the house", while gardeners plant a seed and watch things grow. And he admits to being more a gardener himself.

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** He's also talked about how authors have both "architect and gardener" impulses in themselves. Where Architects architects have a plan before starting to build "the house", while gardeners plant a seed and watch things grow. And he admits to being more a gardener himself.



** The Assassins' Exam sequence in ''Literature/{{Pyramids}}'' apparently appeared in a haze of creativity using authors' autopilot

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** The Assassins' Exam sequence in ''Literature/{{Pyramids}}'' apparently appeared in a haze of creativity using authors' autopilotautopilot.
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** This is a running theme in the final arc of ''Franchise/TheDarkTower'' series. The author shows how real the story is by giving the characters so much life that he himself appears as a character. It works partly because he's distinctly unflattering to himself. In the [[Literature/TheWindThroughTheKeyhole final book]], he starts leaving the characters little notes in medicine cabinets as an acknowledged deus ex machina -- he knows what happens and so can warn them, but says repeatedly that he's sure as hell not making it happen. [[spoiler: The most significant moment is the very end of the series, where Roland is sent back to the beginning to start his quest for the Tower anew. King acknowledged it wasn't the ending he wanted, but it was the only one that fit.]]

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** This is a running theme in the final arc of ''Franchise/TheDarkTower'' series. The author shows how real the story is by giving the characters so much life that he himself appears as a character. It works partly because he's distinctly unflattering to himself. In the [[Literature/TheWindThroughTheKeyhole final book]], he starts leaving the characters little notes in medicine cabinets as an acknowledged deus ex machina -- he knows what happens and so can warn them, but says repeatedly that he's sure as hell not making it happen. [[spoiler: The most significant moment is the very end of the series, where Roland is sent back to the beginning to start his quest for the Tower anew.anew (albeit with the [[RayOfHopeEnding ray of hope]] that this time will his last of his loops). King acknowledged it wasn't the ending he wanted, but it was the only one that fit.]]
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** This is a running theme in the final arc of ''Franchise/TheDarkTower'' series. The author shows how real the story is by giving the characters so much life that he himself appears as a character. It works partly because he's distinctly unflattering to himself. In the [[Literature/TheWindThroughTheKeyhole final book]], he starts leaving the characters little notes in medicine cabinets as an acknowledged deus ex machina -- he knows what happens and so can warn them, but says repeatedly that he's sure as hell not making it happen.

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** This is a running theme in the final arc of ''Franchise/TheDarkTower'' series. The author shows how real the story is by giving the characters so much life that he himself appears as a character. It works partly because he's distinctly unflattering to himself. In the [[Literature/TheWindThroughTheKeyhole final book]], he starts leaving the characters little notes in medicine cabinets as an acknowledged deus ex machina -- he knows what happens and so can warn them, but says repeatedly that he's sure as hell not making it happen. [[spoiler: The most significant moment is the very end of the series, where Roland is sent back to the beginning to start his quest for the Tower anew. King acknowledged it wasn't the ending he wanted, but it was the only one that fit.]]
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* Creator/JimButcher has noted that ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'' has taken unexpected turns from his plotted threads. For example, Waldo Butters, the coroner, was supposed to be a one-shot character when he was introduced, but just ''kept showing up'' so much that he developed a character arc and personality until he became [[spoiler: a Knight of the Cross]]. In addition, Butcher has mentioned that [[spoiler: Harry's daughter]] was a plot device for ''Changes'', and the intent was to have that character taken out of the story afterwards. Except that Jim realized that Harry would ''never'' [[spoiler: give up his daughter]], and as a result, [[spoiler: she]] became a recurring and ''very'' important character.
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* ''WesternAnimation/DuckAmuck'' begins with WesternAnimation/DaffyDuck in full Musketeers garb jumping into action. Director Creator/ChuckJones and writer Michael Maltese had no idea what to do after that, so they pull the scenery away and substitute it with a barnyard scenario, then an Arctic scene, then a Hawaiian Island. Daffy adapts to each of these, and it's only the first two minutes of the cartoon.

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* ''WesternAnimation/DuckAmuck'' begins with WesternAnimation/DaffyDuck in full Musketeers garb jumping into action. Director Creator/ChuckJones and writer Michael Maltese had no idea what to do after that, so they pull the scenery away and substitute it with a barnyard scenario, then an Arctic scene, then a Hawaiian Island. Daffy adapts to each of these, and it's only the first two minutes of the cartoon. Basically the whole thing amounted to just screwing with Daffy and just "letting" him react to the insanity, with his reactions then dictating the next thing they did to him...
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* Creator/MatthewMercer, the DungeonMaster of ''WebVideo/CriticalRole'' has stated repeatedly that he does not ''enjoy'' doing things like killing a player's character, but he won't pull his punches to prevent player deaths either. Both [[spoiler:Mollymauk]]'s death in Campaign 2 and [[spoiler:Laudna]]'s death in Campaign 3 genuinely upset him ([[spoiler:Molly]]'s especially, [[KilledOffForReal since his is the only player death thus far that couldn't be reversed]]), but they both died to extremely dangerous villains who had no narrative reasons to spare them, so Matt simply acted in accordance with what those characters would have done in that situation.
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* Creator/PeterStraub said as much about [[SerialKiller Dick Dart]] in his novel ''The Hellfire Club'', that in the very chapter he introduced Dart, he took over the novel, completely changing the plot and the tone.
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* In ''VideoGame/CassetteBeasts'', one of the recruitable characters, Felix, is an artist who specialises in zoetropes. During his [[RelationshipValues Level 5]] conversation, he remarks that he doesn't know how his latest zoetrope will end yet, and that it's up to the characters to decide that for him. Given that the game is set in a world where fictional characters can come to life, [[spoiler:and one of his past creations has already done so]], he's more justified in believing this than most examples.
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* At the end of ''[[{{ComicBook/Cerebus}} Rick's Story]]'', Cerebus, after spending an entire decade in a bar (and more than two years in real life!) simply refuses to leave and do anything interesting, even at the urging of [[CreatorInsert Dave Sim]]. Eventually Jaka (or a [[EpilepticTrees Jaka simulacrum]]) has to show up and lure Cerebus away.

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* ''ComicBook/CerebusTheAardvark'': At the end of ''[[{{ComicBook/Cerebus}} Rick's Story]]'', ''Rick's Story'', Cerebus, after spending an entire decade in a bar (and more than two years in real life!) simply refuses to leave and do anything interesting, even at the urging of [[CreatorInsert Dave Sim]]. Eventually Jaka (or a [[EpilepticTrees Jaka simulacrum]]) has to show up and lure Cerebus away.



* Creator/PeterDavid was once asked why he wrote a particular rape scene in an issue of ''[[Comicbook/{{Aquaman}} The Atlantis Chronicles]]''. His response? "Because that's what happened." He steadfastly rejects any suggestion that he was ultimately in control of the plot.

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* Creator/PeterDavid was once asked why he wrote a particular rape scene in an issue of ''[[Comicbook/{{Aquaman}} ''[[ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} The Atlantis Chronicles]]''. His response? "Because that's what happened." He steadfastly rejects any suggestion that he was ultimately in control of the plot.



* The creators of the 90s ''Comicbook/{{Superman}}'' books have said that the plan was for Lois Lane to turn down Clark's proposal because she was [[LovesMyAlterEgo holding a torch for Supes]]. When it came time to write it, though, they realised that this simply wasn't what the Lois they'd been writing for the past ten years would do.

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* The creators of the 90s ''Comicbook/{{Superman}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Superman}}'' books have said that the plan was for Lois Lane to turn down Clark's proposal because she was [[LovesMyAlterEgo holding a torch for Supes]]. When it came time to write it, though, they realised that this simply wasn't what the Lois they'd been writing for the past ten years would do.
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* ''WebVideo/FoldingIdeas'' - [[DiscussedTrope discussed]] and [[DeconstructedTrope deconstructed]] in the video "The "Thermian Argument". The example he gives is the question "what kills a vampire?" There's no right answer, because [[CaptainObvious vampires are fictional]]. Therefore whatever kills a vampire in a work of fiction is whatever the author decides kills a vampire. Dan Olson rejects the premise that authors are not in control of their stories, and any possibly offensive content in their work (particularly sexual violence) is what they have consciously chosen to include.
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* ''Multiplication'' by Creator/ShintaroKago shows this in action. A single panel of normal {{Hentai}} is created, and other panels are spun off from it, but the nameless mangaka writing it keeps having to restart from the beginning after it spirals into BodyHorror and {{Gorn}}. (This may or may not be an explanation of the author's own [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs distinctive style]].)

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* ''Multiplication'' by Creator/ShintaroKago shows this in action. A single panel of normal {{Hentai}} is created, and other panels are spun off from it, but the nameless mangaka writing it keeps having to restart from the beginning after it spirals into BodyHorror and {{Gorn}}. (This may or may not be an explanation of the author's own [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs distinctive style]].)
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* ''WesternAnimation/DuckAmuck'' begins with Daffy Duck in full Musketeers garb jumping into action. Director Chuck Jones and writer Michael Maltese had no idea what to do after that, so they pull the scenery away and substitute it with a barnyard scenario, then an Arctic scene, then a Hawaiian Island. Daffy adapts to each of these, and it's only the first two minutes of the cartoon.

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* ''WesternAnimation/DuckAmuck'' begins with Daffy Duck WesternAnimation/DaffyDuck in full Musketeers garb jumping into action. Director Chuck Jones Creator/ChuckJones and writer Michael Maltese had no idea what to do after that, so they pull the scenery away and substitute it with a barnyard scenario, then an Arctic scene, then a Hawaiian Island. Daffy adapts to each of these, and it's only the first two minutes of the cartoon.






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* Half the point of the ''WebVideo/FantasyHeroine'' series is that the characters (especially protagonist Rosamund) go out of their way to defy the intent of Caroline, the author.


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* As well as having plenty of InUniverse examples, Creator/JillBearup has noted that she sometimes experienced this herself when writing the ''WebVideo/FantasyHeroine'' series. The most notable example was at the end of Part 3, when she realised Caroline would behave so differently from how she'd initially thought as to necessitate a whole rewrite of Part 4.
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* Ryohgo Narita, the author of ''LightNovel/{{Baccano}}'', says that the plot changes according to the characters' "movements". In particular, he calls [[AxeCrazy Claire]] [[ChaoticNeutral Stanfield]] the "number one problem child" for moving around too much and leaving the plot of the third novel "in ruins".

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* Ryohgo Narita, the author of ''LightNovel/{{Baccano}}'', ''Literature/{{Baccano}}'', says that the plot changes according to the characters' "movements". In particular, he calls [[AxeCrazy Claire]] [[ChaoticNeutral Stanfield]] the "number one problem child" for moving around too much and leaving the plot of the third novel "in ruins".
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** He's also talked about how authors have both "architect and gardener" impulses in themselves. Where Architects have a plan before starting to build "the house", while gardeners plant a seed and watch things grow. And he admits to being more a gardener himself.
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Since JEAN Stapleton was the one who actually played Edith, chances are Lear was having this conversation with her, and not with the unrelated Maureen, who had no involvement in the series.


* Creator/NormanLear was in tears when he told Maureen Stapleton that they were going to kill off Edith for ''Series/ArchieBunkersPlace.'' When she tried to console Lear by reminding him that Edith wasn't a real person, he said "she is to me."

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* Creator/NormanLear was in tears when he told Maureen Jean Stapleton that they were going to kill off Edith for ''Series/ArchieBunkersPlace.'' When she tried to console Lear by reminding him that Edith wasn't a real person, he said "she is to me."
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* The infamous "Backstory [[DoomyDoomsOfDoom of Doom]]" of Fanfic/OldManHenderson. Henderson's player insisted that he did not create it, it already existed. It just needed him to write it down. The fact that part of it was written in a language the player didn't even speak is pretty strong evidence for his claims.


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Up To Eleven is a defunct trope


* One of Creator/AAPessimal's most finely-realised characters was only ever meant to appear in one story as an expansion of a one-line placeholder in canon. She was originally intended to be a rather stroppy "[[AmoralAfrikaner South African]]" who took all the NationalStereotypes of "White South African-ness" UpToEleven in a Discworld context, and, very deliberately, be hard for the reader to like or sympathise with. And that would have been it. Only... as WordOfGod has it, this [[FieryRedhead late-entry Assassin]] ended up standing behind Pessimal with a very large blade at his neck, demanding he write her more sympathetically and make her more of an ActionGirl heroine. Thus, the nineteen-year old new arrival in Ankh-Morpork evolved over a series of tales into a more mellow forty-something mother of three daughters. And her family started to appear in such numbers that the author realised he'd better make an effort to learn ''some'' Afrikaans and not keep winging it.

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* One of Creator/AAPessimal's most finely-realised characters was only ever meant to appear in one story as an expansion of a one-line placeholder in canon. She was originally intended to be a rather stroppy "[[AmoralAfrikaner South African]]" who took all the NationalStereotypes of "White South African-ness" UpToEleven up a notch in a Discworld context, and, very deliberately, be hard for the reader to like or sympathise with. And that would have been it. Only... as WordOfGod has it, this [[FieryRedhead late-entry Assassin]] ended up standing behind Pessimal with a very large blade at his neck, demanding he write her more sympathetically and make her more of an ActionGirl heroine. Thus, the nineteen-year old new arrival in Ankh-Morpork evolved over a series of tales into a more mellow forty-something mother of three daughters. And her family started to appear in such numbers that the author realised he'd better make an effort to learn ''some'' Afrikaans and not keep winging it.

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