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* Buffy and her initial clash with the solders of the Initiative - especially Riley - is like this. It gets gray once we learn about project 314 and Maggie Walsh' plans though.

* Two examples from ''{{Buffy the Vampire Slayer}}''. The first appears in the fourth season in the form of the governmental anti-demon squad called 'The Initiative'. In the show's fifth season, the Scoobies and the Knights of Byzantium intend to kill Glory and therefore save the world. They end up fighting - on a driving trailer! [[spoiler: The main difference between the two groups - the Knights intend to kill Dawnie (the Key) to prevent the world from ending, Buffy wants to protect her sister at any cost.]]
** Please, kindly excuse those of us with confused view of good. Is [[spoiler: assembling a SuperSoldier [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot human-demon cyborg hybrid]] with intentions on military usage and ordering the assassination of the Slayer to cover it up]] good? And yeah, the soldiers are just misguided. And also blindly obedient and generally unpleasant. The depiction of both the Initiative and the Knights of Byzantium is clearly unsympathetic. WhiteAndGreyMorality, tops.

* T-800 versus the police in {{Terminator}} 2:JudgmentDay. Arnie wants to ensure the destruction of Cyberdyne, whereas the police merely do their job, stopping an apparent terroristic act.

* ''{{X 1999}}'' might to some degree be seen this way. The goals of both groups are resonable. Saving the Earth from the human destruction or saving humanity from extinction.

* T-800 versus the police in {{Terminator}} 2:JudgmentDay. Arnie wants to ensure the destruction of cyberdyne, whereas the police merely do their job, stopping an apparent terroristic act.

** Or this was a clear case of GoodVersusEvil -- YourMileageMayVary.

* T-800 versus the police in {{Terminator}} 2:JudgmentDay. Arnie wants to ensure the destruction of cyberdyne, whereas the police merely do their job, attacking an apparent terroristic act.

** YourMilageMayVary; depending on weather you think the Initiative's treatment of the demons they captured is justified to protect the public or killing an inocent person is justified to save the world when there might be another - albeit riskier and harder - way, you could say either of those conflicts was more white vs. gray with the Initiative and the Knights being WellIntentionedExtremist AntiHeroes or AntiVillains.

** Arguably more white and gray

** That's the idealistic interpretation, anyway. For someone on the other end of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism, it can look more like EvilVersusEvil, whereas in between it can run the whole gamut from GreyAndGrayMorality[[hottip:* :Politicians are driven both by a desire for wealth and power as well as actual ideals, and are more than willing to resort to lies and slander and other dirty tactics in order to be able to make the world a better place]], to BlackAndWhiteMorality[[hottip:* :Your party is trying the best it can to make the world a better place but the other party/parties are hell-bent on destroying your party's efforts so that they may oppress the people and do all those things you're against]] to BlackAndGreyMorality[[hottip:* :The old "least of two evils" idea]] to [[RousseauWasRight White And Grey Morality]][[hottip:* :All sides are out to do what they think is best for the world, it's just that your side is the one that actually gets it right]].

* The only way for [[spoiler: Ozymandias]] to save the world from the Nuclear Holocaust was to sacrifice several million people. Unfortunately, the {{Watchmen}} don't find that too tolerable.

* The only way for [[spoiler: Ozymandias]] to save the world from the Nuclear Holocaust was to sacrifice several million people. Unfortunately, the Watchmen don't find that too tolerable.

* The only way for [[spoiler]]Ozymandias[[/spoiler]] to save the world from the Nuclear Holocaust was to sacrifice several million people. Unfortunately, the Watchmen don't find that too tolerable.

* T-800 versus the police in Terminator 2: Judgment Day. Arnie wants to ensure the destruction of cyberdyne, whereas the police merely do their job, attacking an apparent terroristic act.

Compare with {{Utopia Justifies The Means}}. Contrast to BlackAndWhiteMorality}}. Might end in a {{Downer Ending}}.

Compare with {{Utopia justifies the Means}}. Contrast to {{Black and White Morality}}. Might end in a {{Downer Ending}}.

This trope is closely related to RousseauWasRight, but when that trope is played completely straight there can be no conflict Beyond mere missunderstandings.

* In WorldOfWarcraft, the main conflict between Alliance and Horde is GreyAndGreyMorality, but it contain pockets of GoodVersusGood as well as EvilVersusEvil. When it's BlackAndWhiteMorality, the "white" side is sometimes the Alliance and sometimes the Horde.
* ''{{Shadow Of The Colossus}}'': So, these giant, gentle and quiet rock-like Colossi have really to be killed, huh?

* ''{{Angel}}''. The Season Fourth's ''{{Big Bad}}'' was a goddess who 'ate' people - but took violence and egocentricity from all of mankind in return. [[spoiler: Angel eventually breaks her spell and restores 'free will' in Los Angeles, at the cost of paradise]].
--> '''Jasmine:''' Yes, I murdered thousands - to save billions. This world is doomed to drown in its own blood now.
** Another example: The fight between Angel and Spike in the Season Five episode 'Destiny'. Both have a soul, both want to drink from the cup of perpetual torment - whoopsie, someone got staked.

* One example from ''{{Buffy the Vampire Slayer}}''. In the show's fifth season, the Scoobies and the Knights of Byzantium intend to kill Glory and therefore save the world. They end up fighting - on a driving trailer! [[spoiler: The main difference between the two groups - the Knights intend to kill Dawnie (the Key) to prevent the world from ending, Buffy wants to protect her sister at any cost.]]

This can be a philosophical struggle where LawfulGood and ForGreatJustice stand against the forces of ChaoticGood and ForHappiness. It can also be when unambiguously good characters find themselves on different sides of a GreyAndGreyMorality conflict. In either case, they are often reluctant to fight each other but can have a hard time understanding each other's point.

** That's the idealistic interpretation, anyway. For someone on the other end of the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynism, it can look more like EvilVersusEvil, whereas in between it can run the whole gamut from GreyAndGrayMorality[[hottip:* :Politicians are driven both by a desire for wealth and power as well as actual ideals, and are more than willing to resort to lies and slander and other dirty tactics in order to be able to make the world a better place]], to BlackAndWhiteMorality[[hottip:* :Your party is trying the best it can to make the world a better place but the other party/parties are hell-bent on destroying your party's efforts so that they may oppress the people and do all those things you're against]] to BlackAndGreyMorality[[hottip:* :The old "least of two evils" idea]] to [[RousseauWasRight White And Grey Morality]][[hottip:* :All sides are out to do what they think is best for the world, it's just that your side is the one that actually gets it right]].