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Hunter: The Reckoning and Nightbane

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** In the story at the beginning of [[HunterTheReckoning Hunter: The Reckoning]], one of the characters tries to reveal himself to the world on Chicago's WGN News by creating a magic sword and destroying a chair with it. Unfortunately, the sword is invisible to the television cameras, and later on several illusionists go on the news showing how his "trick" was done.


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* The Palladium Books game [[strike: Nightspawn]] Nightbane for the most part is a normal [[TheMasquerade Masquerade]], but the event that started it all was literally seen by everyone on Earth. On March 6th, 2000, also known as Dark Day, the entire Earth seemed to be cut off from the Cosmos. No sun, no moon, no stars, for 24 hours. To those with knowledge of the supernatural, it was the day evil beings from parallel dimension breached the wall between the two worlds and began a covert operation to control the whole world. To everyone else, it was a freak occurrence they'd all rather forget about. A number of excuses for the event were put forth, and people accept that there must have been some natural explanation, regardless of how flimsy it is.
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* This appears to be the case in "{{CodenameKidsNextDoor}}'', assuming there even is a Masquerade at all. (It's [[MindScrew complicated]].) All the adults who aren't villains seem to be completely unaware of what their children are doing or that evil adults are running around causing havoc, despite the fact that both sides' [[HumongousMecha Humongous Mecha]] fight each other in the streets. The [[MenInBlack Men In Black]] would kill to have citizens who could deny the evidence of their own eyes!

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* This appears to be the case in "{{CodenameKidsNextDoor}}'', "CodenameKidsNextDoor'', assuming there even is a Masquerade at all. (It's [[MindScrew complicated]].) All the adults who aren't villains seem to be completely unaware of what their children are doing or that evil adults are running around causing havoc, despite the fact that both sides' [[HumongousMecha Humongous Mecha]] fight each other in the streets. The [[MenInBlack Men In Black]] would kill to have citizens who could deny the evidence of their own eyes!
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** And somehow, Oberon putting the whole city to sleep in the middle of whatever they were doing ("The Gathering") does not result in thousands of deaths.
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* [[AWizardDidIt Puck Did It.]]

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* ** [[AWizardDidIt Puck Did It.]]
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*[[AWizardDidIt Puck Did It.]]
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Never write that phrase. It just looks like arguing.


** To be fair, it's shown that some people don't believe the government cover-up, and actively run web sites out to expose the giant robot conspiracy.
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* ''[[{{TransformersFilmSeries}} Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]''. Less than two years after a bunch of transforming HumongousMecha had a giant droid deathmatch in the middle of a major city, everyone has forgotten and the bots are still hidden.

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* ''[[{{TransformersFilmSeries}} ''[[Film/{{Transformers}} Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen]]''. Less than two years after a bunch of transforming HumongousMecha had a giant droid deathmatch in the middle of a major city, everyone has forgotten and the bots are still hidden.
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** And then new series five repaired the masquerade again.
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1. Series 5. 2. It's a Cosmic Retcon. Not this trope. 3. What? Also, while Torchwood are seen as a nuisance more than a secret organisation, it's not made clear whether aliens are seen as everyday or not (in series 1 and 2 that is). More natter.


** This is subverted in ''{{Torchwood}}'' where the people of [[AliensInCardiff Cardiff]] are quite aware of the aliens that wander about the city, and often see them and the team as a nuisance.
** Season 4 had the Doctor notice that people don't remember the invasions, and blamed it on the crack; however it's not clear that 1) they're still erased after the season finale, or 2) the crack actually can undo the invasions completely enough that the people killed in them are alive.



*** [[WildMassGuessing Maybe any photos changed to show them as humans when the spell was done?]]



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Natter.


**** What? How is that more believable than ergot poisoning? [[CompletelyMissingThePoint You]] ''[[ArbitrarySkepticism never]]'' [[CompletelyMissingThePoint see private eyes these days]].
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Those things all come after the coverup mentioned in the movie.


** The sequel has a pyramid being destroyed, a college campus demolished, a museum jet coming to life and leaving, and the BigBad [[DoNotAdjustYourSet delivering an ultimatum to the world on international television.]] All signs point to a cover-up.
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Yeah, they probably didn't see the Dark Masters very clearly.


* ''DigimonAdventure'' had digital monsters terrorizing [[TokyoIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse Japan]] and, later, the rest of the world, for approximately 3 days. People could look up in the sky and watch the entire Dark Masters arc taking place (albeit in extreme fast forward... well, okay, they could at least see that there was another world in the sky.) Yet not only does the world return to normalcy within the next three years; ''nobody'' remembers any details about the events. They seem to recall that the events happened, but nobody seems to know exactly what. Either that, or their [[WeirdnessCensor Weirdness Censors]] are set too high.

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* ''DigimonAdventure'' had digital monsters terrorizing [[TokyoIsTheCenterOfTheUniverse Japan]] and, later, the rest of the world, for approximately 3 days. People could look up in the sky and watch the entire Dark Masters arc taking place (albeit in extreme fast forward... well, okay, they could at least see that there was another world in the sky.) going on. Yet not only does [[DigimonAdventure02 the world return to normalcy within the next three years; years]], ''nobody'' remembers any details about the events. They seem to recall that the events happened, but nobody seems to know exactly what. Either that, or their [[WeirdnessCensor Weirdness Censors]] are set too high.
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But justifying edits are still bad. <_< The point's useful for translating the entry for outsiders, but rephrasing to make it less conversational.


** Partly justified by the fact that they don't want to believe it. They have another more visible and less frightening enemy to compare it to. Their policies do affect the lives of billions of people.

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** Partly justified by Since the fact that they don't want to believe it. They have Council has another more visible and less frightening enemy to compare it to. Their to, and their policies do affect the lives of billions of people.people, they don't ''want'' to believe it.
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This trope isn't about a super-effective MIB conspiracy, it's about people's weirdness censors being in overdrive. The former trope namer and Most Triumphant Example, Sunnydale, only had an in-story justification for people being oblivious until Season 3 - after that, they just coasted along on self-denial.

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* MassEffect2: Regardless of how you played the first game (and all evidence to the contrary), the Council flatly refuses to believe that the Reapers are real, let alone a credible threat.
-->'''Councillor Velarn''': ''Ah, yes. [[BelievingTheirOwnLies “Reapers.”]] [[BlatantLies The]] [[CassandraTruth immortal]] [[DethroningMomentOfSuck race]] [[ImplausibleDeniability of]] [[JerkAss sentient]] [[MemeticHandGesture starships,]] [[MemeticMutation allegedly]] [[ObstructiveBureaucrat waiting]] [[SarcasmMode in]] [[SmugSnake dark]] [[SomebodyElsesProblem space.]] [[StatusQuoIsGod We]] [[TemptingFate have]] [[TooDumbToLive dismissed]] [[UngratefulBastard that]] [[WhatAnIdiot claim.]]'
** Partly justified by the fact that they don't want to believe it. They have another more visible and less frightening enemy to compare it to. Their policies do affect the lives of billions of people.
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For it to be an Extra Strength Masquerade, there has to be a masquerade - instead of just government denial.


* MassEffect2: Regardless of how you played the first game (and all evidence to the contrary), the Council flatly refuses to believe that the Reapers are real, let alone a credible threat.
-->'''Councillor Velarn''': ''Ah, yes. [[BelievingTheirOwnLies “Reapers.”]] [[BlatantLies The]] [[CassandraTruth immortal]] [[DethroningMomentOfSuck race]] [[ImplausibleDeniability of]] [[JerkAss sentient]] [[MemeticHandGesture starships,]] [[MemeticMutation allegedly]] [[ObstructiveBureaucrat waiting]] [[SarcasmMode in]] [[SmugSnake dark]] [[SomebodyElsesProblem space.]] [[StatusQuoIsGod We]] [[TemptingFate have]] [[TooDumbToLive dismissed]] [[UngratefulBastard that]] [[WhatAnIdiot claim.]]'
** Partly justified by the fact that they don't want to believe it. They have another more visible and less frightening enemy to compare it to. Their policies do affect the lives of billions of people.

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->''We are assured as children that monsters don't exist. So even when someone sees a monster, he still doesn't ''remember'' seeing a monster. In [[WeirdnessCensor his mind's eye]] he sees a "big dog" or a "large man" or a "blur at the edge of vision" -- anything except a creature he'' knows ''doesn't exist....The easy answer completely papers over what happened, and the world continues on, blissfully ordinary.''

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->''We are assured as children that monsters don't exist. So even when someone sees a monster, he still doesn't ''remember'' seeing a monster. In [[WeirdnessCensor his mind's eye]] he sees a "big dog" or a "large man" or a "blur at the edge of vision" -- anything except excedopt a creature he'' knows ''doesn't exist....The easy answer completely papers over what happened, and the world continues on, blissfully ordinary.''



*** It seems however, that the {{Masquerade}} is being put back in place in the new season with the 11th Doctor. Apparently, some sinister event is taking place that hasn't been explained yet that is "unwriting" certain events in time. Like the last Dalek invasion, which the human race has forgotten, or a giant cyberman nearly destroying Victorian London centuries earlier.
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** Season 4 had the Doctor notice that people don't remember the invasions, and blamed it on the crack; however it's not clear that 1) they're still erased after the season finale, or 2) the crack actually can undo the invasions completely enough that the people killed in them are alive.
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* This appears to be the case in "{{CodenameKidsNextDoor}}'', assuming there even is a Masquerade at all. (It's [[MindScrew complicated]].) All the adults who aren't villains seem to be completely unaware of what their children are doing or that evil adults are running around causing havoc, despite the fact that both sides' [[HumongousMecha Humongous Mecha]] fight each other in the streets. The [[MenInBlack Men In Black]] would kill to have citizens who could deny the evidence of their own eyes!

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** Lampshade is hung in the comic, where it's revealed the excuse was a runaway science experiment in unmanned drones. Sam can't believe people fell for it.

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** To be fair, it's shown that some people don't believe the government cover-up, and actively run web sites out to expose the giant robot conspiracy.
** Lampshade is hung in the comic, where it's revealed the excuse was a runaway science experiment in unmanned drones. Sam can't believe people fell for it.
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** Partly justified by the fact that they don't want to believe it. They have another more visible and less frightening enemy to compare it to.

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** Partly justified by the fact that they don't want to believe it. They have another more visible and less frightening enemy to compare it to. Their policies do affect the lives of billions of people.
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** Partly justified by the fact that they don't want to believe it. They have another more visible and less frightening enemy to compare it to.
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* In IDW's {{Transformers}} comics, Sixshot fought the Autobots in the American southeast, and the Machination had Laserbeak, Ravage, and the Dinobots running around causing havoc and fighting their Headmaster units. Cut to ''All Hail Megatron'', and it only took a year for a crowd on the street in New York to think the Constructicons are part of a movie. This can be attributed to the change in writers from Simon Furman to Shane McCarthy.

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* In IDW's {{Transformers}} comics, Sixshot fought the Autobots in the American southeast, and the Machination had Laserbeak, Ravage, and the Dinobots running around causing havoc and fighting their Headmaster units. Cut to ''All Hail Megatron'', and it only took a year for a crowd on the street in New York to think the Constructicons are part of a movie. This can be attributed to the change in writers from Simon Furman to is mostly because new writer Shane McCarthy.[=McCarthy=] couldn't be bothered to read what his predecessor had written.
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* MassEffect2: [[XJustX Just... Mass Effect 2]].

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* MassEffect2: [[XJustX Just... Mass Effect 2]].Regardless of how you played the first game (and all evidence to the contrary), the Council flatly refuses to believe that the Reapers are real, let alone a credible threat.
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Original example by Kalaong, just moving from another page in all its All Blue Entry glory.

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* MassEffect2: [[XJustX Just... Mass Effect 2]].
-->'''Councillor Velarn''': ''Ah, yes. [[BelievingTheirOwnLies “Reapers.”]] [[BlatantLies The]] [[CassandraTruth immortal]] [[DethroningMomentOfSuck race]] [[ImplausibleDeniability of]] [[JerkAss sentient]] [[MemeticHandGesture starships,]] [[MemeticMutation allegedly]] [[ObstructiveBureaucrat waiting]] [[SarcasmMode in]] [[SmugSnake dark]] [[SomebodyElsesProblem space.]] [[StatusQuoIsGod We]] [[TemptingFate have]] [[TooDumbToLive dismissed]] [[UngratefulBastard that]] [[WhatAnIdiot claim.]]'
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->''Mayhem Ensues: Monsters Definitely Not Involved.''

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->''Mayhem Ensues: [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial Monsters Definitely Not Involved.Involved]].''
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**** What? How is that more believable than ergot poisoning? [[ArbitrarySkepticism You]] ''[[ArbitrarySkepticism never]]'' [[ArbitrarySkepticism see private eyes these days]].

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**** What? How is that more believable than ergot poisoning? [[ArbitrarySkepticism [[CompletelyMissingThePoint You]] ''[[ArbitrarySkepticism never]]'' [[ArbitrarySkepticism [[CompletelyMissingThePoint see private eyes these days]].



*** :ring: Harry Dresden! Yes I'm really a wizard named Harry. No I don't do parties. :click:

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*** :ring: Harry Dresden! Yes [[NamesTheSame Yes, I'm really really]] [[HarryPotter a wizard named Harry. No Harry]]. No, I don't do parties. :click:
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* The young adult horror book series "Strange Matter", about a town where strange supernatural events are constantly happening to the local kids, falls right into this trope with its first "Strange Forces" book; the ENTIRE TOWN is attacked by an army of monsters, including such crowded locations as the Mall at peak operating time, and the creatures are seen by hundreds of witnesses of all ages. Yet, later books seem to act as if the huge monstr invasion never happened, and there are still people in twon who are skeptical about the existance of the paranormal.

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*** They do notice Daphne, it's just she moves so fast that by the time the guy realizes he saw something move, she's long gone.

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*** They do notice Daphne, it's just she moves so fast that by the time the guy realizes he saw something move, she's long gone. gone.
** In the Volume Five finale, which ended up as the series finale, [[spoiler:the ExtraStrengthMasquerade was deliberately broken by Claire [[{{Bookends}} reprising her jump-off-a-high-platform stunt from the first episode]] in front of a camera crew. Had the show continued, Volume Six would presumably have dealt with the consequences.]]
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* SG1 / X-Com crossover ''XSGCOM'' plays with this. After battle of Antartica (with humanity having 2 303's and 2 Ha'Taks, plus shitload of satelite weapons) and finaly having drone weapons launched X-Com decide to pull so unbelivable excuse, that it must be true: essentelialy they are claiming that AlienInvasion is a cover up for military-excersice-nearly-turned-WWIII. They also lie that goverments have been breaching disarmning of space. To normal journalist, goverments trying to cover up major screw up by alien invasion sounds more possible than otherway around.
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** Given the FantasyKitchenSink that is the Marvel Universe, both explanations had a good chance of being right. From the perspective of your average person, it could easily have been a supervillain experimenting with hallucination inducing gas or something.
** [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight Or that it was New York on a dull day]].

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** Given the FantasyKitchenSink that is the Marvel Universe, both explanations had a good chance of being right. From the perspective of your average person, it could easily have been a supervillain experimenting with hallucination inducing gas or something.
** [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight Or that it was New York on a dull day]].
something. The question is ''why'' they would believe the scientific option over the demonic one, despite having no real reason to do so.

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