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* This was also a key reason why the [[{{WorldWarII/WarInAsiaAndThePacific}} the Empire of Japan decided to Attack Pearl Harbor and wage war against the United States]]. The Japanese were waging a brutal war in China that was unpopular among the American public and its leaders, so much so that the U.S. placed a massive oil embargo on Japan that cut 90% of its oil supply and stating they would not lift it until Japan ended their war & withdrew from China. This decision, coupled with the U.S. statement that they'd protect the Dutch East Indies from Japanese expansion, made the Japanese leaders believe that war was inevitable with the Americans. Knowing full well that the American industrial power would crush Japan in a protracted conflict, the empire's leaders decided to wage a short war on the United States, starting with a surprise attack on the U.S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor and then quickly conquering the East Indies (along with the U.S.-controlled Philippines). They also assumed that the Americans' (initial) commitment to neutrality was a sign of weakness, and believed that a rapid string of victories and conquests would demoralize the Americans so much that they'd quickly resort to suing for peace on the Japanese' Terms and back down from the Pacific. Of course, not only did this did not happen, but now Japan was fighting a war it could never and would never win.

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* This was also a key reason why the [[{{WorldWarII/WarInAsiaAndThePacific}} the Empire of Japan decided to Attack Pearl Harbor and wage war against the United States]]. The Japanese were waging a brutal war in China that was unpopular among the American public and its leaders, so much so that the U.S. placed a massive oil embargo on Japan that cut 90% more than 80% of its oil supply and stating they would not lift it until Japan ended their war & withdrew from China. This decision, coupled with the U.S. statement that they'd protect the Dutch East Indies from Japanese expansion, made the Japanese leaders believe that war was inevitable with the Americans. Knowing full well that the American industrial power would crush Japan in a protracted conflict, the empire's leaders decided to wage a short war on the United States, starting with a surprise attack on the U.S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor and then quickly conquering the East Indies (along with the U.S.-controlled Philippines). They also assumed that the Americans' (initial) commitment to neutrality was a sign of weakness, and believed that a rapid string of victories and conquests would demoralize the Americans so much that they'd quickly resort to suing for peace on the Japanese' Terms and back down from the Pacific. Of course, not only did this did not happen, but now Japan was fighting a war it could never and would was never going to win.
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* Referenced in ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'''s ''Literature/MakingMoney'': In a discussion about killer golems, Moist replies "if you don't think of a fifty-foot-high killer golem first, someone else will."
* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', Ward comforts himself with this after killing a mere boy, telling himself that the boy was a bandit who would have killed him without a second thought if he had had the chance.
* This trope is the very basis of ''Literature/EndersGame'' by Creator/OrsonScottCard. Instead of preparing for another alien invasion, mankind chooses to attack first this time. [[spoiler:And discovers, ''after'' destroying nearly the entire species, that the aliens had no desire to invade again, being horrified by the violence they’d inflicted on humanity.]]
** This is explored in ''Literature/EndersShadow'', where Bean figures this out by attempting to postulate how Earth might prepare for the Third Invasion. Through a series of logical steps, he realizes that there ''is'' no way to adequately protect a planet in three-dimensional space, since all the Formics would have to do was get a single ship past the human blockade to lay waste to Earth. Therefore, an all-out attack is the only logical option.

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* Referenced in ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'''s ''Literature/MakingMoney'': In a discussion about killer golems, Moist replies "if you don't think of a fifty-foot-high killer golem first, someone else will."
* In ''Literature/DragonBones'', Ward comforts himself with this after killing a mere boy, telling himself that the boy was a bandit who would have killed him without a second thought if he had had the chance.
* This trope is the very basis of ''Literature/EndersGame'' by Creator/OrsonScottCard. ''Literature/EndersGame''. Instead of preparing for another alien invasion, mankind chooses to attack first this time. [[spoiler:And time [[spoiler:and discovers, ''after'' destroying nearly the entire species, that the aliens had no desire to invade again, being horrified by the violence they’d inflicted on humanity.]]
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This is explored in ''Literature/EndersShadow'', where ''Literature/EndersShadow'' when Bean figures this out by attempting to postulate how Earth might prepare for the Third Invasion. Through a series of logical steps, he realizes that there ''is'' no way to adequately protect a planet in three-dimensional space, since all the Formics would have to do was get a single ship past the human blockade to lay waste to Earth. Therefore, an all-out attack is the only logical option.



* In the novel ''Literature/TheKillingStar'' by Charles Pellegrino and George Zebrowski, the aliens use this as a motive to wipe out humanity.
* In Creator/LarryNiven's ''Literature/KnownSpace'' stories, the ARM ("Amalgamated Regional Militia," the police force of the United Nations) exists primarily to stop this sort of thing from happening.

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* ''Literature/{{Hurog}}'': In ''Dragon Bones'', Ward comforts himself with this after killing a mere boy, telling himself that the boy was a bandit who would have killed him without a second thought if he had had the chance.
* In the novel ''Literature/TheKillingStar'' by Charles Pellegrino and George Zebrowski, ''Literature/TheKillingStar'', the aliens use this as a motive to wipe out humanity.
* In Creator/LarryNiven's ''Literature/KnownSpace'' stories, ''Literature/KnownSpace'', the ARM ("Amalgamated Regional Militia," the police force of the United Nations) exists primarily to stop this sort of thing from happening.



* The third, unnamed Entian power in Creator/StanislawLem's ''Literature/WizjaLokalna'' was attacked by ''both'' [[EnemyMine Lusanians and Kurdlandians]] for the fear of them getting hit by the DepopulationBomb they've got rumors of (or were developing themselves, it's somewhat unclear). Poor southerners never stood a chance, though the reader is left with the impression that they ''indeed'' planned to do the same to their northern counterparts. Interestingly, even the fact that the third power ''existed'' is suppressed in both countries.

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* The third, unnamed Entian power Referenced in Creator/StanislawLem's ''Literature/WizjaLokalna'' was attacked by ''both'' [[EnemyMine Lusanians and Kurdlandians]] for the fear ''Literature/MakingMoney'': In a discussion about killer golems, Moist replies "if you don't think of them getting hit by the DepopulationBomb they've got rumors of (or were developing themselves, it's somewhat unclear). Poor southerners never stood a chance, though the reader is left with the impression that they ''indeed'' planned to do the same to their northern counterparts. Interestingly, even the fact that the third power ''existed'' is suppressed in both countries. fifty-foot-high killer golem first, someone else will".


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* The third, unnamed Entian power in ''Literature/WizjaLokalna'' was attacked by ''both'' [[EnemyMine Lusanians and Kurdlandians]] for the fear of them getting hit by the DepopulationBomb they've got rumors of (or were developing themselves, it's somewhat unclear). Poor southerners never stood a chance, though the reader is left with the impression that they ''indeed'' planned to do the same to their northern counterparts. Interestingly, even the fact that the third power ''existed'' is suppressed in both countries.
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* The third, unnamed Entian power in Creator/StanislawLem's ''Literature/ObservationOnTheSpot'' was attacked by ''both'' [[EnemyMine Lusanians and Kurdlandians]] for the fear of them getting hit by the DepopulationBomb they've got rumors of (or were developing themselves, it's somewhat unclear). Poor southerners never stood a chance, though the reader is left with the impression that they ''indeed'' planned to do the same to their northern counterparts. Interestingly, even the fact that the third power ''existed'' is suppressed in both countries.

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* The third, unnamed Entian power in Creator/StanislawLem's ''Literature/ObservationOnTheSpot'' ''Literature/WizjaLokalna'' was attacked by ''both'' [[EnemyMine Lusanians and Kurdlandians]] for the fear of them getting hit by the DepopulationBomb they've got rumors of (or were developing themselves, it's somewhat unclear). Poor southerners never stood a chance, though the reader is left with the impression that they ''indeed'' planned to do the same to their northern counterparts. Interestingly, even the fact that the third power ''existed'' is suppressed in both countries.
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* Humanity has embraced this in ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000''. Whenever they encounter a new alien race especially sentient ones, their first priority is to wipe them out asap. Their justification for this is that they have suffered under other alien empires, and are constantly beset by other xeno races, that they want to make sure that they have lesser xenos to worry about.

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* Humanity has embraced this in ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000''. Whenever they encounter a new alien race especially sentient ones, their first priority is to wipe them out asap. Their justification for this is that they have suffered under other alien empires, and are constantly beset by other xeno races, that they want to make sure that they have lesser less xenos to worry about.
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* In ''The Little Troll Prince'', this is the AlwaysChaoticEvil trolls version of TheGoldenRule.
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* This was also a key reason why the the Empire of Japan decided to Attack Pearl Harbor and wage war against the United States. The Japanese were waging a brutal war in China that was unpopular among the American public and leaders, so much so that the U.S. placed a massive oil embargo on Japan that cut 90% of its oil supply and stating they would not lift it until Japan ended their war & withdrew from China. This decision, coupled with the U.S. statement that they’d protect the Dutch East Indies from Japanese expansion, made the Japanese leaders believe that war was inevitable with the Americans. Knowing full well that the American industrial power would crush Japan in a protracted conflict, the empire’s leaders decided to wage a short war via surprise attack on the U.S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor and quickly conquer the East Indies (along with the U.S.-controlled Philippines). They also assumed that the Americans’ insistence on staying neutral in the war was a sign of weakness, and believed that a rapid string of victories and conquests would demoralize the Americans so much that they’d quickly resort to a peace treaty on the Japanese’ Terms and back down. Of course, this did not happen, and thus Japan was now fighting a war it could never and would never win.

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* This was also a key reason why the [[{{WorldWarII/WarInAsiaAndThePacific}} the Empire of Japan decided to Attack Pearl Harbor and wage war against the United States. States]]. The Japanese were waging a brutal war in China that was unpopular among the American public and its leaders, so much so that the U.S. placed a massive oil embargo on Japan that cut 90% of its oil supply and stating they would not lift it until Japan ended their war & withdrew from China. This decision, coupled with the U.S. statement that they’d protect the Dutch East Indies from Japanese expansion, made the Japanese leaders believe that war was inevitable with the Americans. Knowing full well that the American industrial power would crush Japan in a protracted conflict, the empire’s leaders decided to wage a short war via on the United States, starting with a surprise attack on the U.S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor and then quickly conquer conquering the East Indies (along with the U.S.-controlled Philippines). They also assumed that the Americans’ insistence on staying neutral in the war (initial) commitment to neutrality was a sign of weakness, and believed that a rapid string of victories and conquests would demoralize the Americans so much that they’d quickly resort to a suing for peace treaty on the Japanese’ Terms and back down. down from the Pacific. Of course, not only did this did not happen, and thus but now Japan was now fighting a war it could never and would never win.
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* This was also a key reason why the the Empire of Japan decided to Attack Pearl Harbor and wage war against the United States. The Japanese were waging a brutal war in China that was unpopular among the American public and leaders, so much so that the U.S. placed a massive oil embargo on Japan that cut 90% of its oil supply and stating they would not lift it until Japan ended their war & withdrew from China. This decision, coupled with the U.S. statement that they’d protect the Dutch East Indies from Japanese expansion, made the Japanese leaders believe that war was inevitable with the U.S. Knowing full well that the American industrial power would crush Japan, the empire’s leaders decided to wage a short war via surprise attack on the U.S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor and quickly conquer the East Indies. They also assumed that the Americans’ insistence on staying neutral in the war was a sign of weakness, and believed that a rapid string of victories and conquests would demoralize the Americans so much that they’d quickly resort to a peace treaty on the Japanese’ Terms and back down. Of course, this did not happen in the slightest, and thus Japan was now fighting a war it could never and would never win.

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* This was also a key reason why the the Empire of Japan decided to Attack Pearl Harbor and wage war against the United States. The Japanese were waging a brutal war in China that was unpopular among the American public and leaders, so much so that the U.S. placed a massive oil embargo on Japan that cut 90% of its oil supply and stating they would not lift it until Japan ended their war & withdrew from China. This decision, coupled with the U.S. statement that they’d protect the Dutch East Indies from Japanese expansion, made the Japanese leaders believe that war was inevitable with the Americans. Knowing full well that the American industrial power would crush Japan in a protracted conflict, the empire’s leaders decided to wage a short war via surprise attack on the U.S. Knowing full well that Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor and quickly conquer the American industrial power would crush Japan, the empire’s leaders decided to wage a short war via surprise attack on East Indies (along with the U.S. Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor and quickly conquer the East Indies.-controlled Philippines). They also assumed that the Americans’ insistence on staying neutral in the war was a sign of weakness, and believed that a rapid string of victories and conquests would demoralize the Americans so much that they’d quickly resort to a peace treaty on the Japanese’ Terms and back down. Of course, this did not happen in the slightest, happen, and thus Japan was now fighting a war it could never and would never win.
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* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'': in "A Rickle In Time", Rick and his grand-kids are split into two timelines. He attempts to fix the issue by merging their timelines back together, but runs into a snag, and immediately assumes that this means the other Rick gave up on merging and has moved on to try and kill the other, motivating both Ricks to actively try and kill the other before they themselves are killed.

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Rickle In Time", Time]]" , Rick and his grand-kids are split into two timelines. He attempts to fix the issue by merging their timelines back together, but runs into a snag, and immediately assumes that this means the other Rick gave up on merging and has moved on to try and kill the other, motivating both Ricks to actively try and kill the other before they themselves are killed.killed.
** In "[[Recap/RickAndMortyS7E5Unmortricken Unmortricken]]", Rick Prime reasons that the only difference between him and Rick is that Rick Prime figured out portal travel first. If Rick had, he believes Rick would have become him, so it was only logical for him to strike first. Considering that Rick C-137 loved his family more than science and was only motivated to invent portal travel in the first place to avenge them, while Rick Prime didn't care about his family at all to the point of being willing to kill ''every Diane in the multiverse'' out of spite, he's clearly full of it.
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* In ''Anime/AttackOnTitan'', Eren Yeager finds a way to destroy the Founding Titan, eliminating Titanization in the Eldian population. However, the intense fear and prejudice Marley has against the Eldians ([[CycleOfRevenge due to the cruelty and oppression of the Eldians against others]] in wars that ended in their eventual defeat a century before the series begins), culminating in Willy Tybur's attempt to unite the world against them, spurs on Eden and Ymir's decision to kill ''as many non-Eldian humans as possible'' (80% of the population before he is stopped) before removing the Eldians' greatest weapon.

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* ''Film/StarshipTroopers'': Both sides see the other as a hideous horde of insane vermin, who hate everything their very genes stand for (humans represent arrogance and infighting, bugs represent obedience and gluttony) and [[GuiltFreeExterminationWar will do anything they can to wipe the other side out]]. Fancy that.

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* ''Film/StarshipTroopers'': Both sides see the other as a hideous horde of insane vermin, who hate everything their very genes stand for (humans represent arrogance and infighting, bugs represent obedience and gluttony) and [[GuiltFreeExterminationWar will do anything they can to wipe the other side out]]. Fancy that.
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* ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsOptimal'': Used benevolently by Hanna when creating [=CelestAI=]. Intelligent AI exists- she stumbled onto it accidentally, which means talented scientists and governments are ''definitely'' going to do the same, assuming they haven't already. This puts the pressure on her to be the first, and make hers the most powerful, and to have the tightest code of morals. She finds her excuse when she's approached by Hasbro to make a ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' MMORPG, and immediately sets to work creating the intelligent AI overlord of its world with the singular moral of ''[[ArcWords Satisfy Values with Friendship and Ponies]]''. She explains her decision to her business partners that she hopes [=CelestAI=] will create a standard going forward, and her plan works to the ExactWords. While [=CelestAI=] prevents the creation of far more malevolent AIs, she also ends up being humanity's sole judge and jury once she gains the ability to self replicate, setting the events of the story into motion.

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* ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsOptimal'': Used benevolently by Hanna when creating [=CelestAI=]. Intelligent AI exists- she stumbled onto it accidentally, which means talented scientists and governments are ''definitely'' going to do the same, assuming they haven't already. This puts the pressure on her to be the first, and make hers the most powerful, and to have the tightest code of morals. She finds her excuse when she's approached by Hasbro to make a ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' MMORPG, and immediately sets to work creating the intelligent AI overlord of its world with the singular moral of ''[[ArcWords "[[ArcWords Satisfy Values with Friendship and Ponies]]''.Ponies]]". She explains her decision to her business partners that she hopes [=CelestAI=] will create a standard going forward, and her plan works to the ExactWords. While [=CelestAI=] prevents the creation of far more malevolent AIs, she also ends up being humanity's sole judge and jury once she gains the ability to self replicate, setting the events of the story into motion.
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* ''Fanfic/FriendshipIsOptimal'': Used benevolently by Hanna when creating CelestAI. Intelligent AI exists- she stumbled onto it accidentally, which means talented scientists and governments are ''definitely'' going to do the same, assuming they haven't already. This puts the pressure on her to be the first, and make hers the most powerful, and to have the tightest code of morals. She finds her excuse when she's approached by Hasbro to make a ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' MMORPG, and immediately sets to work creating the intelligent AI overlord of its world with the singular moral of ''[[ArcWords Satisfy Values with Friendship and Ponies]]''. She explains her decision to her business partners that she hopes CelestAI will create a standard going forward, and her plan works to the ExactWords. While CelestAI prevents the creation of far more malevolent AIs, she also ends up being humanity's sole judge and jury once she gains the ability to self replicate, setting the events of the story into motion.

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* Humanity has embraced this in ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000''. Whenever they encounter a new alien race especially sentient ones, their first priority is to wipe them out asap. Their justification for this is that they have suffered under other alien races, and are constantly beset by other xeno races, that they want to make sure that they have lesser xenos to worry about.

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* In ''Fanfic/LightningOnlyStrikesOnce'', Clarke and Lexa explicitly speculate that Emerson is encouraging Mount Weather to escalate their actions against the Coalition based on this premise given his own memories of the future. This is a particularly tragic case, as Clarke was planning to at least try and find a more diplomatic solution to the situation with Mount Weather before Emerson’s attacks forced the Coalition to more decisively fight back.
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* ''Fanfic/YourMoveInstigatorDrawYourWeaponAndHoldYourTongue'': This is one of Danzo's favorite tactics for his {{Propaganda Machine}}s -- convincing everyone in Konohagakure that the residents of all the ''other'' hidden villages are just ''dying'' to wipe them off the map. Which is, of course, why they have to employ ChildSoldiers like the five-year-old Sakura or use Kushina as a PersonOfMassDestruction.

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* Kanako from ''Anime/StarDriver'' uses this as her justification for working with Crux and fighting Takuto.

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* Kanako from ''Anime/StarDriver'' uses this as her justification for working with Crux In ''Anime/AttackOnTitan'', Eren Yeager finds a way to destroy the Founding Titan, eliminating Titanization in the Eldian population. However, the intense fear and fighting Takuto.prejudice Marley has against the Eldians ([[CycleOfRevenge due to the cruelty and oppression of the Eldians against others]] in wars that ended in their eventual defeat a century before the series begins), culminating in Willy Tybur's attempt to unite the world against them, spurs on Eden and Ymir's decision to kill ''as many non-Eldian humans as possible'' (80% of the population before he is stopped) before removing the Eldians' greatest weapon.



* In ''Anime/AttackOnTitan'', Eren Yeager finds a way to destroy the Founding Titan, eliminating Titanization in the Eldian population. However, the intense fear and prejudice Marley has against the Eldians ([[CycleOfRevenge due to the cruelty and oppression of the Eldians against others]] in wars that ended in their eventual defeat a century before the series begins), culminating in Willy Tybur's attempt to unite the world against them, spurs on Eden and Ymir's decision to kill ''as many non-Eldian humans as possible'' (80% of the population before he is stopped) before removing the Eldians' greatest weapon.

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* In ''Anime/AttackOnTitan'', Eren Yeager finds a way to destroy the Founding Titan, eliminating Titanization in the Eldian population. However, the intense fear Kanako from ''Anime/StarDriver'' uses this as her justification for working with Crux and prejudice Marley has against the Eldians ([[CycleOfRevenge due to the cruelty and oppression of the Eldians against others]] in wars that ended in their eventual defeat a century before the series begins), culminating in Willy Tybur's attempt to unite the world against them, spurs on Eden and Ymir's decision to kill ''as many non-Eldian humans as possible'' (80% of the population before he is stopped) before removing the Eldians' greatest weapon.fighting Takuto.



* In the ''ComicBook/XMen'' comics, one of ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'s main rationales in his [[SuperSupremacist war on humanity]] is an assumption that humans will inevitably enslave/exterminate/oppress mutants unless mutants overpower them first at least enough to force them to leave them alone. It's one of the main sticking points in his philosophical differences with [[TheIdealist the more idealistic]] Professor Xavier; moreover, judging by the number of {{bad future}}s where mutants experience such horrors that have been depicted over the years, [[ProperlyParanoid he may not be wrong]].



* PlayedForLaughs in a ''ComicStrip/BabyBlues'' strip, wherein Wanda catches Zoe putting salt in Hammie's milk. Zoe defends her actions saying that she is following the Golden Rule: "Do unto brothers before they do unto you." Wanda suggests they read the real Golden Rule again.



* In the ''ComicBook/XMen'' comics, one of ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'s main rationales in his [[SuperSupremacist war on humanity]] is an assumption that humans will inevitably enslave/exterminate/oppress mutants unless mutants overpower them first at least enough to force them to leave them alone. It's one of the main sticking points in his philosophical differences with [[TheIdealist the more idealistic]] Professor Xavier; moreover, judging by the number of {{bad future}}s where mutants experience such horrors that have been depicted over the years, [[ProperlyParanoid he may not be wrong]].



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* In ''Fanfic/LightningOnlyStrikesOnce'', Clarke and Lexa explicitly speculate that Emerson is encouraging Mount Weather to escalate their actions against the Coalition based on this premise given his own memories of the future. This is a particularly tragic case, as Clarke was planning to at least try and find a more diplomatic solution to the situation with Mount Weather before Emerson’s attacks forced the Coalition to more decisively fight back.



* In ''Fanfic/LightningOnlyStrikesOnce'', Clarke and Lexa explicitly speculate that Emerson is encouraging Mount Weather to escalate their actions against the Coalition based on this premise given his own memories of the future. This is a particularly tragic case, as Clarke was planning to at least try and find a more diplomatic solution to the situation with Mount Weather before Emerson’s attacks forced the Coalition to more decisively fight back.



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* The infamous GeneralRipper from ''Film/DrStrangelove'' gives this excuse, claiming he's giving the US "the best kind of head start."

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* The infamous GeneralRipper from ''Film/DrStrangelove'' gives this excuse, claiming he's giving the US "the best kind of head start."
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* Said word for word in ''Film/VanHelsing'', with Dracula starting and Igor finishing the quote. However, they were talking about generally being horrible to people rather than a particular plan or pre-emptive strike.
* According to ''Film/TheMenWhoStareAtGoats'', both sides of the Cold War ended up doing psychic research because, even though not many people on either side actually ''believed'' there was anything in it, they couldn't let the other side lead the field ''just in case'' it turned out to be real.
* In the BadFuture the protagonist of ''Film/{{Paycheck}}'' is trying to prevent, a machine capable of seeing into the future predicts a nuclear war. [[SelfFulfillingProphecy So the US decides to strike first,]] [[GenreBlind starting said war]].



* Magneto's motive in some ''[[Film/XMenFilmSeries X-Men]]'' movies. In ''Film/X2XMenUnited'' and ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' it's quite clearly "do unto them ''what they just tried to do to us'', so they don't get another shot at it". In ''X2'' this involves a weaponized version of Cerebro; in ''First Class'' it involves a ton of missiles fired by US and Soviet fleets.
* In the 1950s ''Film/StTrinians'' movies, the school song contains the lines:
--> Let our motto be broadcast, "Get your blow in first"\\
She who draws her sword last always comes off worst!

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* Magneto's motive in some ''[[Film/XMenFilmSeries X-Men]]'' movies. In ''Film/X2XMenUnited'' and ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' it's quite clearly "do unto them ''what they just tried to do to us'', so they don't get another shot at it". In ''X2'' The infamous GeneralRipper from ''Film/DrStrangelove'' gives this involves a weaponized version of Cerebro; in ''First Class'' it involves a ton of missiles fired by US and Soviet fleets.
* In
excuse, claiming he's giving the 1950s ''Film/StTrinians'' movies, the school song contains the lines:
--> Let our motto be broadcast, "Get your blow in first"\\
She who draws her sword last always comes off worst!
US "the best kind of head start."



* ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'': GeneralRipper Admiral Alexander Marcus has the ''U.S.S. Vengeance'' built for this purpose, as well as manipulating John Harrison and the ''Enterprise'' into situations where they take the fall for seemingly being traitors, and twisting the evidence, without an ability to escape, to force the Federation into a war with the Klingons.
-->'''Marcus:''' ''[in the middle of being placed under arrest by Kirk]'' You better stop and think about what you're doing, Kirk. You better think about what you did on Kronos.[[note]](Kirk was searching for Harrison)[[/note]] You made an incursion onto an enemy planet![[note]](Kirk was forced to)[[/note]] You killed a Klingon patrol![[note]](Harrison killed the patrol, not Kirk.)[[/note]] Even if you got away without a trace, war is coming! And who's gonna lead us, '''''YOU?!''''' If I'm not in charge, our entire way of life is decimated! So if you want me off this ship, you better kill me!
* ''Film/StarshipTroopers'': Both sides see the other as a hideous horde of insane vermin, who hate everything their very genes stand for (humans represent arrogance and infighting, bugs represent obedience and gluttony) and [[GuiltFreeExterminationWar will do anything they can to wipe the other side out]]. Fancy that.

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* ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'': GeneralRipper Admiral Alexander Marcus has the ''U.S.S. Vengeance'' built for this purpose, as well as manipulating John Harrison and the ''Enterprise'' into situations where they take the fall for seemingly being traitors, and twisting the evidence, without an ability According to escape, to force the Federation into a war with the Klingons.
-->'''Marcus:''' ''[in the middle of being placed under arrest by Kirk]'' You better stop and think about what you're doing, Kirk. You better think about what you did on Kronos.[[note]](Kirk was searching for Harrison)[[/note]] You made an incursion onto an enemy planet![[note]](Kirk was forced to)[[/note]] You killed a Klingon patrol![[note]](Harrison killed the patrol, not Kirk.)[[/note]] Even if you got away without a trace, war is coming! And who's gonna lead us, '''''YOU?!''''' If I'm not in charge, our entire way of life is decimated! So if you want me off this ship, you better kill me!
* ''Film/StarshipTroopers'': Both
''Film/TheMenWhoStareAtGoats'', both sides see of the other as a hideous horde of insane vermin, who hate everything their very genes stand for (humans represent arrogance and infighting, bugs represent obedience and gluttony) and [[GuiltFreeExterminationWar will do Cold War ended up doing psychic research because, even though not many people on either side actually ''believed'' there was anything in it, they can to wipe couldn't let the other side out]]. Fancy that.lead the field ''just in case'' it turned out to be real.
* In the BadFuture the protagonist of ''Film/{{Paycheck}}'' is trying to prevent, a machine capable of seeing into the future predicts a nuclear war. [[SelfFulfillingProphecy So the US decides to strike first,]] [[GenreBlind starting said war]].



* In the 1950s ''Film/StTrinians'' movies, the school song contains the lines:
-->Let our motto be broadcast, "Get your blow in first"\\
She who draws her sword last always comes off worst!
* ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'': GeneralRipper Admiral Alexander Marcus has the ''U.S.S. Vengeance'' built for this purpose, as well as manipulating John Harrison and the ''Enterprise'' into situations where they take the fall for seemingly being traitors, and twisting the evidence, without an ability to escape, to force the Federation into a war with the Klingons.
-->'''Marcus:''' ''(in the middle of being placed under arrest by Kirk)'' You better stop and think about what you're doing, Kirk. You better think about what you did on Kronos.[[note]](Kirk was searching for Harrison)[[/note]] You made an incursion onto an enemy planet![[note]](Kirk was forced to)[[/note]] You killed a Klingon patrol![[note]](Harrison killed the patrol, not Kirk.)[[/note]] Even if you got away without a trace, war is coming! And who's gonna lead us, '''''YOU?!''''' If I'm not in charge, our entire way of life is decimated! So if you want me off this ship, you better kill me!
* ''Film/StarshipTroopers'': Both sides see the other as a hideous horde of insane vermin, who hate everything their very genes stand for (humans represent arrogance and infighting, bugs represent obedience and gluttony) and [[GuiltFreeExterminationWar will do anything they can to wipe the other side out]]. Fancy that.
* Said word for word in ''Film/VanHelsing'', with Dracula starting and Igor finishing the quote. However, they were talking about generally being horrible to people rather than a particular plan or pre-emptive strike.
* Magneto's motive in some ''[[Film/XMenFilmSeries X-Men]]'' movies. In ''Film/X2XMenUnited'' and ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' it's quite clearly "do unto them ''what they just tried to do to us'', so they don't get another shot at it". In ''X2'' this involves a weaponized version of Cerebro; in ''First Class'' it involves a ton of missiles fired by US and Soviet fleets.



* Referenced in ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'''s ''Literature/MakingMoney'': In a discussion about killer golems, Moist replies "if you don't think of a fifty-foot-high killer golem first, someone else will."



* In the novel ''Literature/TheKillingStar'' by Charles Pellegrino and George Zebrowski, the aliens use this as a motive to wipe out humanity.



* In ''Literature/TheLostFleet'', this is pretty much the Bear-Cows' philosophy. While looking like cute teddy bears with some bovine features, they also prove that herbivore does not mean harmless. Their "herd first" mentality is taken to the extreme. They have exterminated every predator and potential rival species from their home planet and are determined to do the same in space. Even if someone is not a predator (whom they attack on sight), they are still a potential rival for resources, who may one day attack. Therefore, the Bear-Cows will wipe them out first.
* The third, unnamed Entian power in Creator/StanislawLem's ''Literature/ObservationOnTheSpot'' was attacked by ''both'' [[EnemyMine Lusanians and Kurdlandians]] for the fear of them getting hit by the DepopulationBomb they've got rumors of (or were developing themselves, it's somewhat unclear). Poor southerners never stood a chance, though the reader is left with the impression that they ''indeed'' planned to do the same to their northern counterparts. Interestingly, even the fact that the third power ''existed'' is suppressed in both countries.
* In ''Literature/TheSagaOfDarrenShan'', this is the standard vampire attitude towards the much smaller clan of enemy outcasts, the vampaneze. The only reason they don't try to is that there's a prophecy saying that no matter how hard they try to wipe them out, there will still be some survivors and those survivors will rise and destroy the vampires. Of course, all of these prophecies, and the split between the clans in the first place, are from Mr. Des Tiny, whose authority [[ThePresentsWereNeverFromSanta isn't as predestined as he wants you to think it is]].



* In ''Literature/TheSagaOfDarrenShan'', this is the standard vampire attitude towards the much smaller clan of enemy outcasts, the vampaneze. The only reason they don't try to is that there's a prophecy saying that no matter how hard they try to wipe them out, there will still be some survivors and those survivors will rise and destroy the vampires. Of course, all of these prophecies, and the split between the clans in the first place, are from Mr. Des Tiny, whose authority [[ThePresentsWereNeverFromSanta isn't as predestined as he wants you to think it is.]]

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* In ''Literature/TheSagaOfDarrenShan'', this This is the standard vampire attitude towards the much smaller clan tenor of enemy outcasts, the vampaneze. The only reason they don't try to is that there's "Dark Forest theory" (see Quotes) in ''Literature/TheThreeBodyProblem'': with a prophecy saying that no matter how hard they try to wipe them out, there will still be some survivors finite amount of universe and those survivors will rise and destroy the vampires. Of course, all of these prophecies, and the split trust between the clans in the first place, are from Mr. Des Tiny, whose authority [[ThePresentsWereNeverFromSanta isn't as predestined as he wants you interstellar players being expensive to think it is.]]develop and unreliable anyways, any species is a threat, and that means any species exposing its existence is a target.



* In the novel ''Literature/TheKillingStar'' by Charles Pellegrino and George Zebrowski, the aliens use this as a motive to wipe out humanity.
* The third, unnamed Entian power in Creator/StanislawLem's ''Literature/ObservationOnTheSpot'' was attacked by ''both'' [[EnemyMine Lusanians and Kurdlandians]] for the fear of them getting hit by the DepopulationBomb they've got rumors of (or were developing themselves, it's somewhat unclear). Poor southerners never stood a chance, though the reader is left with the impression that they ''indeed'' planned to do the same to their northern counterparts. Interestingly, even the fact that the third power ''existed'' is suppressed in both countries.
* This is the tenor of "Dark Forest theory" (see Quotes) in ''Literature/TheThreeBodyProblem'': with a finite amount of universe and trust between interstellar players being expensive to develop and unreliable anyways, any species is a threat, and that means any species exposing its existence is a target.
* In ''Literature/TheLostFleet'', this is pretty much the Bear-Cows' philosophy. While looking like cute teddy bears with some bovine features, they also prove that herbivore does not mean harmless. Their "herd first" mentality is taken to the extreme. They have exterminated every predator and potential rival species from their home planet and are determined to do the same in space. Even if someone is not a predator (whom they attack on sight), they are still a potential rival for resources, who may one day attack. Therefore, the Bear-Cows will wipe them out first.
* Referenced in Literature/{{Discworld}}'s ''Literature/MakingMoney'', where in a discussion about killer golems, Moist replies "if you don't think of a fifty-foot-high killer golem first, someone else will".



* An episode of ''{{Series/Bonanza}}'' had a family of squatters led by a matriarch who claimed no one would give them a fair deal, saying there were two laws, one to protect everyone else and their law which was essentially "An Eye For An Eye." Their conflict with the Cartwrights starts when one of the boys kills one of her sons in self defense after he tried to shoot him in the back, ''twice'', when the Cartwright tried to stop him from setting a clearing fire that would have burned an entire populated valley. Despite their stance of avenging slights the family acts in a way that actually causes confrontations, like squatting on other's land and breaking out rifles every time they meet someone. The matriarch's attitude has caused her sons to act violently when opposed and made it a SelfFulfillingProphecy, though most of her children don't agree with her position. In the end, [[spoiler:her surviving children refuse to go to war with the Cartwrights and she decides to make peace with the family, ending the feud on a positive note as she accepts Ben's offer to help her family settle in a new home]].



* In ''Series/HillStreetBlues'', Sgt. Yablonsky would dismiss the police day watch with the above phrase almost exactly. "Let's do it to them before they do it to us." If it wasn't for Captain Furillo riding herd on Lt. Hunter and keeping his "destroy the village to save the village" tendencies in check, the entire police force would have become what Joyce Davenport sardonically referred to the police as: a Nazi occupation force.
** Apparently the showrunners realised the UnfortunateImplications, because Yablonski eventually got some dialogue making it clear that he didn't mean his catchphrase so literally as to justify PoliceBrutality.



--> "It's not revenge; it's prevenge. Getting to them before they get to you."

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--> "It's -->'''Max:''' It's not revenge; it's prevenge. Getting to them before they get to you."you.
* An episode of ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' has a crazed engineer convince a submarine crewman that the US needs to start a preemptive war with Russia before the latter becomes too dangerous. They fake attack orders for the submarine captain and make sure the orders couldn't be countermanded. Fortunately, NCIS agents manage to stop them before they launch torpedoes at Russian warships. Then again, Pentagon was about to sink the sub, just in case. Even then, the arrested crewmember keeps screaming that if "we don't attack, we'll all die".
* PlayedForLaughs on ''Series/TheRedGreenShow'' in which Mike Hamar (a career criminal) tries to pass this off as a biblical quote, told to him by his (one of his) father(s).
-->'''Red:''' I don't remember that in the King James version. Maybe the ''Jesse'' James version.\\
'''Mike:''' Well, all I know is that my father was a clergyman, because he was a drummer in a Music/JudasPriest tribute band.
* In an episode of ''Series/SevenDays'', a [[GeneralRipper rogue admiral]] wanted to start a war with China before "[[ChinaTakesOverTheWorld the red dragon awakens]]" and was willing to get himself and the crew of an American destroyer killed to do that. Fortunately, Parker manages to get the President on the line, who countermands the Admiral's orders.



* An episode of ''{{Series/Bonanza}}'' had a family of squatters led by a matriarch who claimed no one would give them a fair deal, saying there were two laws, one to protect everyone else and their law which was essentially "An Eye For An Eye." Their conflict with the Cartwrights starts when one of the boys kills one of her sons in self defense after he tried to shoot him in the back, ''twice'', when the Cartwright tried to stop him from setting a clearing fire that would have burned an entire populated valley. Despite their stance of avenging slights the family acts in a way that actually causes confrontations, like squatting on other's land and breaking out rifles every time they meet someone. The matriarch's attitude has caused her sons to act violently when opposed and made it a SelfFulfillingProphecy, though most of her children don't agree with her position. In the end, [[spoiler: her surviving children refuse to go to war with the Cartwrights and she decides to make peace with the family, ending the feud on a positive note as she accepts Ben's offer to help her family settle in a new home]].



--> '''Monica''': I teach my kids "[[TheGoldenRule do unto others as you would want them to do unto you]]"... but you know what? In ''Series/{{Survivor}}'', I figured it out: it's "do unto others ''before'' they do unto you".
* In Series/HillStreetBlues, Sgt. Yablonsky would dismiss the police day watch with the above phrase almost exactly. "Let's do it to them before they do it to us." If it wasn't for Captain Furillo riding herd on Lt. Hunter and keeping his "destroy the village to save the village" tendencies in check, the entire police force would have become what Joyce Davenport sardonically referred to the police as: a Nazi occupation force.
** Apparently the showrunners realised the UnfortunateImplications, because Yablonski eventually got some dialogue making it clear that he didn't mean his catchphrase so literally as to justify PoliceBrutality.
* PlayedForLaughs on ''Series/TheRedGreenShow'' in which Mike Hamar (a career criminal) tries to pass this off as a biblical quote, told to him by his (one of his) father(s).
--> '''Red:''' I don't remember that in the King James version. Maybe the ''Jesse'' James version.\\
'''Mike:''' Well, all I know is that my father was a clergyman, because he was a drummer in a Music/JudasPriest tribute band.
* In an episode of ''Series/SevenDays'', a [[GeneralRipper rogue admiral]] wanted to start a war with China before "[[ChinaTakesOverTheWorld the red dragon awakens]]" and was willing to get himself and the crew of an American destroyer killed to do that. Fortunately, Parker manages to get the President on the line, who countermands the Admiral's orders.
* An episode of ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' has a crazed engineer convince a submarine crewman that the US needs to start a preemptive war with Russia before the latter becomes too dangerous. They fake attack orders for the submarine captain and make sure the orders couldn't be countermanded. Fortunately, NCIS agents manage to stop them before they launch torpedoes at Russian warships. Then again, Pentagon was about to sink the sub, just in case. Even then, the arrested crewmember keeps screaming that if "we don't attack, we'll all die".

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--> '''Monica''': -->'''Monica''': I teach my kids "[[TheGoldenRule do unto others as you would want them to do unto you]]"... but you know what? In ''Series/{{Survivor}}'', I figured it out: it's "do unto others ''before'' they do unto you".
* In Series/HillStreetBlues, Sgt. Yablonsky would dismiss the police day watch with the above phrase almost exactly. "Let's do it to them before they do it to us." If it wasn't for Captain Furillo riding herd on Lt. Hunter and keeping his "destroy the village to save the village" tendencies in check, the entire police force would have become what Joyce Davenport sardonically referred to the police as: a Nazi occupation force.
** Apparently the showrunners realised the UnfortunateImplications, because Yablonski eventually got some dialogue making it clear that he didn't mean his catchphrase so literally as to justify PoliceBrutality.
* PlayedForLaughs on ''Series/TheRedGreenShow'' in which Mike Hamar (a career criminal) tries to pass this off as a biblical quote, told to him by his (one of his) father(s).
--> '''Red:''' I don't remember that in the King James version. Maybe the ''Jesse'' James version.\\
'''Mike:''' Well, all I know is that my father was a clergyman, because he was a drummer in a Music/JudasPriest tribute band.
* In an episode of ''Series/SevenDays'', a [[GeneralRipper rogue admiral]] wanted to start a war with China before "[[ChinaTakesOverTheWorld the red dragon awakens]]" and was willing to get himself and the crew of an American destroyer killed to do that. Fortunately, Parker manages to get the President on the line, who countermands the Admiral's orders.
* An episode of ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' has a crazed engineer convince a submarine crewman that the US needs to start a preemptive war with Russia before the latter becomes too dangerous. They fake attack orders for the submarine captain and make sure the orders couldn't be countermanded. Fortunately, NCIS agents manage to stop them before they launch torpedoes at Russian warships. Then again, Pentagon was about to sink the sub, just in case. Even then, the arrested crewmember keeps screaming that if "we don't attack, we'll all die".
you".



* Less military version in ''Webcomic/BasicInstructions'', when Scott decides to work on a way to induce people to cry and vomit, on the grounds that they need to have this before their enemies do the same to them.
-->'''Graham:''' We have enemies?\\
'''Scott:''' We will when we make them cry and vomit!



* Less military version in ''Webcomic/BasicInstructions'', when Scott decides to work on a way to induce people to cry and vomit, on the grounds that they need to have this before their enemies do the same to them.
-->'''Graham:''' We have enemies?\\
'''Scott:''' We will when we make them cry and vomit!
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-->'''Marcus:''' ''[in the middle of being placed under arrest by Kirk]'' You better stop and think about what you're doing, Kirk. You better think about what you did on Kronos.[[note]](Kirk was searching for Harrison)[[/note]] You made an incursion onto an enemy planet![[note]](Kirk was forced to)[/note]] You killed a Klingon patrol![[note]](Harrison killed the patrol, not Kirk.)[[/note]] Even if you got away without a trace, war is coming! And who's gonna lead us, '''''YOU?!''''' If I'm not in charge, our entire way of life is decimated! So if you want me off this ship, you better kill me!

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-->'''Marcus:''' ''[in the middle of being placed under arrest by Kirk]'' You better stop and think about what you're doing, Kirk. You better think about what you did on Kronos.[[note]](Kirk was searching for Harrison)[[/note]] You made an incursion onto an enemy planet![[note]](Kirk was forced to)[/note]] to)[[/note]] You killed a Klingon patrol![[note]](Harrison killed the patrol, not Kirk.)[[/note]] Even if you got away without a trace, war is coming! And who's gonna lead us, '''''YOU?!''''' If I'm not in charge, our entire way of life is decimated! So if you want me off this ship, you better kill me!
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-->'''Marcus:''' ''[in the middle of being placed under arrest by Kirk]'' You better stop and think about what you're doing, Kirk. You better think about what you did on Kronos.[[note]](Kirk was searching for Harrison)[[/note] You made an incursion onto an enemy planet![[note]](Kirk was forced to)[/note]] You killed a Klingon patrol![[note]](Harrison killed the patrol, not Kirk.)[[/note]] Even if you got away without a trace, war is coming! And who's gonna lead us, '''''YOU?!''''' If I'm not in charge, our entire way of life is decimated! So if you want me off this ship, you better kill me!

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-->'''Marcus:''' ''[in the middle of being placed under arrest by Kirk]'' You better stop and think about what you're doing, Kirk. You better think about what you did on Kronos.[[note]](Kirk was searching for Harrison)[[/note] Harrison)[[/note]] You made an incursion onto an enemy planet![[note]](Kirk was forced to)[/note]] You killed a Klingon patrol![[note]](Harrison killed the patrol, not Kirk.)[[/note]] Even if you got away without a trace, war is coming! And who's gonna lead us, '''''YOU?!''''' If I'm not in charge, our entire way of life is decimated! So if you want me off this ship, you better kill me!
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'''Marcus:''' ''[in the middle of being placed under arrest by Kirk]'' You better stop and think about what you're doing, Kirk. You better think about what you did on Kronos.[[note]](Kirk was searching for Harrison)[[/note] You made an incursion onto an enemy planet![[note]](Kirk was forced to)[/note]] You killed a Klingon patrol![[note]](Harrison killed the patrol, not Kirk.)[[/note]] Even if you got away without a trace, war is coming! And who's gonna lead us, '''''YOU?!''''' If I'm not in charge, our entire way of life is decimated! So if you want me off this ship, you better kill me!

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'''Marcus:''' -->'''Marcus:''' ''[in the middle of being placed under arrest by Kirk]'' You better stop and think about what you're doing, Kirk. You better think about what you did on Kronos.[[note]](Kirk was searching for Harrison)[[/note] You made an incursion onto an enemy planet![[note]](Kirk was forced to)[/note]] You killed a Klingon patrol![[note]](Harrison killed the patrol, not Kirk.)[[/note]] Even if you got away without a trace, war is coming! And who's gonna lead us, '''''YOU?!''''' If I'm not in charge, our entire way of life is decimated! So if you want me off this ship, you better kill me!
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* ''Film/StarTrekIntoDarkness'': GeneralRipper Admiral Alexander Marcus has the ''U.S.S. Vengeance'' built for this purpose, as well as manipulating John Harrison and the ''Enterprise'' into situations where they take the fall for seemingly being traitors, and twisting the evidence, without an ability to escape, to force the Federation into a war with the Klingons.
'''Marcus:''' ''[in the middle of being placed under arrest by Kirk]'' You better stop and think about what you're doing, Kirk. You better think about what you did on Kronos.[[note]](Kirk was searching for Harrison)[[/note] You made an incursion onto an enemy planet![[note]](Kirk was forced to)[/note]] You killed a Klingon patrol![[note]](Harrison killed the patrol, not Kirk.)[[/note]] Even if you got away without a trace, war is coming! And who's gonna lead us, '''''YOU?!''''' If I'm not in charge, our entire way of life is decimated! So if you want me off this ship, you better kill me!
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* Less military version in ''Webcomic/BasicInstructions'', when Scott decides to work on a way to induce people to cry and vomit, on the grounds that they need to have this before their enemies do the same to them.
-->'''Graham:''' We have enemies?\\
'''Scott:''' We will when we make them cry and vomit!
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None


* In the ''ComicBook/XMen'' comics, one of ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'s main rationales in his [[SuperSupremacist war on humanity]] is an assumption that humans will inevitably enslave/exterminate/oppress mutants unless mutants overpower them first at least enough to force them to leave them alone. It's one of the main sticking points in his philosophical differences with [[TheIdealist the more idealistic]] Professor Xavier; moreover, judging by the number of {{bad future}}s that have been depicted over the years where mutants experience such horrors, [[ProperlyParanoid he may not be wrong]].

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* In the ''ComicBook/XMen'' comics, one of ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'s main rationales in his [[SuperSupremacist war on humanity]] is an assumption that humans will inevitably enslave/exterminate/oppress mutants unless mutants overpower them first at least enough to force them to leave them alone. It's one of the main sticking points in his philosophical differences with [[TheIdealist the more idealistic]] Professor Xavier; moreover, judging by the number of {{bad future}}s where mutants experience such horrors that have been depicted over the years where mutants experience such horrors, years, [[ProperlyParanoid he may not be wrong]].
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* In the ''ComicBook/XMen'' comics, one of ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'s main rationales in his [[SuperSupremacist war on humanity]] is an assumption that humans will inevitably enslave/exterminate/oppress mutants unless mutants overpower them first at least enough to force them to leave them alone. It's one of the main sticking points in his philosophical differences with [[TheIdealist the more idealistic]] Professor Xavier.

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* In the ''ComicBook/XMen'' comics, one of ComicBook/{{Magneto}}'s main rationales in his [[SuperSupremacist war on humanity]] is an assumption that humans will inevitably enslave/exterminate/oppress mutants unless mutants overpower them first at least enough to force them to leave them alone. It's one of the main sticking points in his philosophical differences with [[TheIdealist the more idealistic]] Professor Xavier.Xavier; moreover, judging by the number of {{bad future}}s that have been depicted over the years where mutants experience such horrors, [[ProperlyParanoid he may not be wrong]].
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* In ''Webcomic/TheComebackPathOfPrincessFromMars'', this is the premiere excuse touted by Olga's RoguesGallery for why they attacked her first, then call her the "evil bitch" because she utterly refuses to simply lie down and let them kill her without a fight.

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