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* Bail and Breha Organa in ''Literature/LeiaPrincessOfAlderaan'' have a good kid overall, but at sixteen her naivete, willfulness, and temper, as she goes from being a precocious child to a young adult capable of and expected to make decisions with serious effects on other people, cause them some trouble, especially since they're secretly in LaResistance. They scold her at various points for such things as trying some LoopholeAbuse to help refugees without considering broader context like what that would do to larger scale attempts to help them, for going up to a Rebel outpost planning to help without considering that they might be alarmed and shoot her, and a lot more. Bail is particularly [[AngerBornOfWorry angry and afraid]] for her and sometimes becomes harsh, especially as she retreads the same moral dilemmas ''he'' only just painfully worked his way through. Leia can accept some of these as fair and internalize them but also fires back, herself, that if they didn't keep her in the dark about their activities she wouldn't end up stepping on them!
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* Within the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' fandom, it's not uncommon to encounter spitefics in which Charlie finally calls Bella out on her selfish, self-destructive behaviour and her habit of treating him like dirt -- sometimes to the point of just kicking her out of his house ([[{{Unishment}} which isn’t much of a punishment because she could just live with the Cullens]], but still). Blog/DasSporking has an archive of them.

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* Within the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' ''[[Literature/TheTwilightSaga Twilight]]'' fandom, it's not uncommon to encounter spitefics in which Charlie finally calls Bella out on her selfish, self-destructive behaviour and her habit of treating him like dirt -- sometimes to the point of just kicking her out of his house ([[{{Unishment}} which isn’t much of a punishment because she could just live with the Cullens]], but still). Blog/DasSporking has an archive of them.
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* Parodied in ''Fanfic/NjalGetsBurned,'' where Valgard the Grey calls Mord out on being insufficiently evil and scheming.
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* ''Series/{{Sadakatsiz}}'': Because of all the drama stirred by his parent's divorce, Ali develops kleptomania as a coping mechanism. His mother doctor Asya eventually finds out and, after consulting with a psychiatrist friend, decides to retrieve the stolen items from Ali's bedroom and return them to the school on the condition that the thief's identity remains unknown. Unfortunately from her, the opposite happens. Ali's classmates start alienating him, so he lashes out at his mother and decides to go live with his father Volkan out of spite. Volkan scolds Ali for his disrespectful, dismissive attitude -- telling him that his mother only wants to help him and that he's hurting her greatly by acting like this.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TurningRed'', this is subverted. Instead of Ming chewing Mei out for sneaking out, lying and hustling her panda form, she blames Mei's friends for influencing Mei to do those things.
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* ''Film/HowFunnyThisCountryIs'': After [[spoiler:Muluk, Pipit and Samsul ends their help to the pickpocketing kids out of guilt that they are being paid with stolen money]], the kids decide to go back to their pickpocketing way. Their boss (and the closest thing they have to a father) Jarot goes on a rant calling out the kids for not wanting to be anything more than pickpockets, even after Muluk tries to give them the way, and how uneducated pickpockets like them has no future besides dying in squalor.

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* Happens a lot in Literature/TheBible, especially whenever [[GoodIsNotNice God]] needs to speak some sense into His children.
** A considerable chunk of the book of Job is God giving Job a stern lecture, then giving an even sterner one to Job’s crappy friends.
** The most famous is probably in the book of Jonah, where God gives the titular prophet a good WhatTheHellHero speech regarding Jonah’s selfishness and the importance of mercy.

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a lot in Literature/TheBible, lot, especially whenever [[GoodIsNotNice God]] needs to speak some sense into His children.
** A considerable chunk of the book of Job ''Literature/BookOfJob'' is God giving Job a stern lecture, then giving an even sterner one to Job’s crappy friends.
** The most famous is probably in the book of Jonah, ''Literature/BookOfJonah'', where God gives the titular prophet a good WhatTheHellHero speech regarding Jonah’s Jonah's selfishness and the importance of mercy.
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** A good chunk of the book of Job is God giving Job a stern lecture, then giving an even sterner one to Job’s crappy friends.

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* ''Literature/{{Discworld}}:'' Zig-zagged in the climax of ''Literature/{{Mort}}''; here, Death returns to his domain to find that his apprentice Mort has spared the life of someone that should have died, resulting in a paradox that's reached reality-breaking proportions during Death's absence. Normally a BenevolentBoss, Death is ''enraged'' for the first time in the entire novel and reads Mort the riot act for his mistakes (real and perceived) in a thunderous ReasonYouSuckSpeech that concludes with '''ALL IN ALL, BOY, NOT A GOOD START TO YOUR FIRST JOB.''' However, once Death crosses the line into demanding the lives of the people Mort saved in order to square the debt with reality, Ysabell turns this moment on its head by pointing out that Death himself has bent the rules more than once, most prominently for ''her'' sake, eventually giving way to a CallingTheOldManOut moment. [[spoiler: In the end, Death concedes Ysabell's point and is able to reorder the timeline so that Mort's alteration becomes accepted history.]]



* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' episode "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS05E16DrBashirIPresume Dr Bashir I Presume]]" actually provides a back-to-back example of CallingTheOldManOut and CallingTheYoungManOut: after being accidentally outed as a genetically-engineered superhuman, Julian Bashir is fully prepared to [[ResignedInDisgrace resign from Starfleet]], resulting in yet another argument with his father -- this time over the decision to have Julian genetically altered in the first place. However, when he bitterly accuses his parents of having him altered out of shame for his apparent mental deficiency, his normally-placid mother finally shocks Jules into silence by pointing out that he's never understood their motivations, nor has he ever tried to: they weren't ashamed, but guilty -- blaming ''themselves'' for his childhood difficulties. The revelation ''instantly'' defuses the argument.

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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' episode "[[Recap/StarTrekDeepSpaceNineS05E16DrBashirIPresume Dr Bashir I Presume]]" actually provides a back-to-back example of CallingTheOldManOut and CallingTheYoungManOut: after being accidentally outed as a genetically-engineered superhuman, Julian Bashir is fully prepared to [[ResignedInDisgrace resign from Starfleet]], resulting in yet another argument with his father -- this time over the decision to have Julian genetically altered in the first place. At first, Julian has the high ground in this argument, given Richard Bashir's habit of vicariously living through his son and refusing to apologize for his own shortcomings. However, when he Julian bitterly accuses his parents of having him altered out of shame for his apparent mental deficiency, his normally-placid mother finally shocks Jules "Jules" into silence by pointing out that he's never understood their motivations, nor has he ever tried to: they weren't ashamed, but guilty -- blaming ''themselves'' for his childhood difficulties. The revelation ''instantly'' defuses the argument.



* ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'': In "Meet Me Inside", Washington, a father figure to Hamilton who is stern but fond of the him, reprimands him for encouraging Laurens to duel Charles Lee over his slander against Washington , stoking infighting within the Continental Army. When Hamilton refuses to apologize, and even begs Washington for a command, Washington sends him home. Downplayed, since Washington was going to send him home anyway, without the Lee issue, to be with his newly-pregnant wife, on her request.

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* ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'': In "Meet Me Inside", Washington, a father figure to Hamilton who is stern but fond of the him, reprimands him for encouraging Laurens to duel Charles Lee over his slander against Washington , Washington, stoking infighting within the Continental Army. When Hamilton refuses to apologize, and even begs Washington for a command, Washington sends him home. Downplayed, since Washington was going to send him home anyway, without the Lee issue, to be with his newly-pregnant wife, on her request.



** Saizo is not happy to learn that his son Asugi has forsaken the Saizo name and become a thief(although [[EveryoneHasStandards Asugi cut ties with his employer when he learned that the plan involved murdering the owner of the house they were robbing]]). Asugi counters by accusing Saizo of being obsessed with his family name.

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** Saizo is not happy to learn that his son Asugi has forsaken the Saizo name and become a thief(although thief (although [[EveryoneHasStandards Asugi cut ties with his employer when he learned that the plan involved murdering the owner of the house they were robbing]]). Asugi counters by accusing Saizo of being obsessed with his family name.
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* On ''Series/{{ER}}'', Doug Ross blasts his abusive father for what a lousy parent he was, then describes his own miserable life, capping it off by disgustedly declaring "I'm ''you''". His father looks him straight in the eye and truthfully informs him, "You're 34 years old. How you live your life is ''your'' decision."

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* Happens a lot in Literature/TheBible, especially whenever [[GoodIsNotNice God]] needs to speak some sense into His children.
** A good chunk of the book of Job is God giving Job a stern lecture, then giving an even sterner one to Job’s crappy friends.
** The most famous is probably in the book of Jonah, where God gives the titular prophet a good WhatTheHellHero speech regarding Jonah’s selfishness and the importance of mercy.
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* In ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', some of the parent-child conversations in the child recruitment Paralogues involve this, often mixed with CallingTheOldManOut.
** After Ryoma learns that his son Shiro has left his Deeprealm and got himself into a battle with bandits, Ryoma chews Shiro out for his reckless and irresponsible behavior as son of the high prince(and acting king) of Hoshido. Shiro, however, fires back that Ryoma [[ParentalNeglect never raised him at all]], nor did Ryoma tell him about his royal heritage.
** Niles' daughter Nina is first seen [[JustLikeRobinHood robbing from a corrupt noble]]. Nina accuses Niles, a former thief, of [[ParentalHypocrisy being a hypocrite for judging her for her behavior]], but it turns out that Niles has good reason for that.
** Saizo is not happy to learn that his son Asugi has forsaken the Saizo name and become a thief(although [[EveryoneHasStandards Asugi cut ties with his employer when he learned that the plan involved murdering the owner of the house they were robbing]]). Asugi counters by accusing Saizo of being obsessed with his family name.
** Jakob, a hard-working and competent servant, is furious with his son Dwyer's lazy and slovenly behavior.
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* ''Series/FeelGood'': Linda reminds her child Mae that she and Mae's dad basically have let her simply do whatever she wants with her life and have never tried to push her in any direction, so if she's not happy with where she is, it's her fault.
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Also, a key aspect of the trope is that the provider of the speech has to ''actually have a point,'' otherwise it's just abuse. Any parent can insult or demean their child; far more impactful is a parent taking aim at real character flaws and explaining how their child has hurt someone through those flaws. If an AbusiveParent does this, it may be used to point out that FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse if their child continues to blame ''their'' actions on the parent instead of taking responsibility for them, since while parents are responsible for how they raise their children, they have no obligation to be held accountable for their children's mistakes.

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Also, a key aspect of the trope is that the provider of the speech has to ''actually have a point,'' otherwise it's just abuse. Any parent can insult or demean their child; far more impactful is a parent taking aim at real character flaws and explaining how their child has hurt someone through those flaws. If an AbusiveParent does this, it may be used to point out that FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse if their child continues to blame ''their'' actions on the parent instead of taking responsibility for them, since while parents are responsible for how they raise their children, they have no obligation to be held accountable for their children's mistakes.
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Also, a key aspect of the trope is that the provider of the speech has to ''actually have a point,'' otherwise it's just abuse. Any parent can insult or demean their child; far more impactful is a parent taking aim at real character flaws and explaining how their child has hurt someone through those flaws. If an AbusiveParent does this, it may be used to point out that FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse if their child continues to blame ''their'' actions on the parent instead of taking responsibility for them, since while parents are responsible for their children's behavior, they have no obligation to be held accountable for their children's mistakes.

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Also, a key aspect of the trope is that the provider of the speech has to ''actually have a point,'' otherwise it's just abuse. Any parent can insult or demean their child; far more impactful is a parent taking aim at real character flaws and explaining how their child has hurt someone through those flaws. If an AbusiveParent does this, it may be used to point out that FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse if their child continues to blame ''their'' actions on the parent instead of taking responsibility for them, since while parents are responsible for how they raise their children's behavior, children, they have no obligation to be held accountable for their children's mistakes.
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Also note that this isn't necessarily delivered by the literal parent: from time to time, a mentor, ParentalSubstitute or other surrogate takes the place of a biological mother or father. Other times, it may be another adult who does this on behalf of the parents.

Also, a key aspect of the trope is that the provider of the speech has to ''actually have a point,'' otherwise it's just abuse. Any parent can insult or demean their child; far more impactful is a parent taking aim at real character flaws and explaining how their child has hurt someone through those flaws.

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Also note that this isn't necessarily delivered by the literal parent: from time to time, a mentor, ParentalSubstitute or other another surrogate takes the place of a biological mother or father. Other times, it may be another adult who does this on behalf of the parents.

Also, a key aspect of the trope is that the provider of the speech has to ''actually have a point,'' otherwise it's just abuse. Any parent can insult or demean their child; far more impactful is a parent taking aim at real character flaws and explaining how their child has hurt someone through those flaws.
flaws. If an AbusiveParent does this, it may be used to point out that FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse if their child continues to blame ''their'' actions on the parent instead of taking responsibility for them, since while parents are responsible for their children's behavior, they have no obligation to be held accountable for their children's mistakes.
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Also note that this isn't necessarily delivered by the literal parent: from time to time, a mentor, ParentalSubstitute or other surrogate takes the place of a biological mother or father.

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Also note that this isn't necessarily delivered by the literal parent: from time to time, a mentor, ParentalSubstitute or other surrogate takes the place of a biological mother or father.
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In {{Literature/The Book of Samuel}}, Eli eventually calls out his sons for their sinful behaviour but by that time it’s too late to have a significant impact.

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* ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'': In "Meet Me Inside", Washington, a father figure to Hamilton who is stern but fond of the him, reprimands him for encouraging Laurens to duel Charles Lee over his slander against Washington, stoking infighting within the Continental Army. When Hamilton refuses to apologize, and even begs Washington for a command, Washington sends him home. Downplayed, since Washington was going to send him home anyway, without the Lee issue, to be with his newly-pregnant wife, on her request.

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* ''Theatre/{{Hamilton}}'': In "Meet Me Inside", Washington, a father figure to Hamilton who is stern but fond of the him, reprimands him for encouraging Laurens to duel Charles Lee over his slander against Washington, Washington , stoking infighting within the Continental Army. When Hamilton refuses to apologize, and even begs Washington for a command, Washington sends him home. Downplayed, since Washington was going to send him home anyway, without the Lee issue, to be with his newly-pregnant wife, on her request.
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* ''Theatre/EverybodysTalkingAboutJamie'': Ray, the ''HonoraryUncle honorary aunt]], gives a short one to Jamie when he returns after running away, telling him to step up and make up with his mom.

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'':
** ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'': Kindly but strict Mrs. Weasley does this twice over her kids using the flying car without permission. While the first instance is downplayed because the kids left at night to save Harry from his cruel aunt and uncle, this makes the second instance all the more justified: Harry and Ron left in ''broad daylight'', were spotted by a handful of muggles, nearly got killed by the Whomping Willow, broke Ron's wand, caused the car to get lost in the Forbidden Forest, ''and'' got Ron's father in trouble at work. And it all [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could have been avoided]] if Harry had just owled Hogwarts that they couldn't get onto the platform (which Harry admits that he didn't think of until [=McGonagall=] brought it up), or if they had waited to see if the Weasleys were able to get off the platform (which they could). Along with getting punished by the school, Mrs. Weasley sends a Howler to Ron over this second instance, so that ''everyone in the Great Hall'' can hear it. [[spoiler: The flying car does end up saving them later in the book, however, so their actions weren't entirely for nothing.]]
** ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'': Professor Lupin, one of the kinder teachers and an old friend of Harry's father, calls out Harry for using the Marauder's Map to sneak out of Hogwarts while alleged murderer Sirius Black is at large, [[spoiler: supposedly]] looking for Harry. Lupin brings up that not only could the Map have aided in capturing Sirius Black the last time he was in the castle had Harry handed it in sooner, but that Harry undervalues his parents' sacrifice by being so reckless. He confiscates the Map, and Harry walks away feeling ashamed. [[spoiler: While Sirius turns out not to be the criminal everyone believes he is, it is only after Lupin confiscates the Map that he discovers the truth about the real murderer, Peter Pettigrew.]]

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** ''Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets'': Kindly but strict Mrs. Weasley does this twice over her kids using the flying car without permission. While the first instance is downplayed because the kids left at night to save Harry from his cruel aunt and uncle, this makes the second instance all the more justified: Harry and Ron left in ''broad daylight'', were spotted by a handful of muggles, nearly got killed by the Whomping Willow, broke Ron's wand, caused the car to get lost in the Forbidden Forest, ''and'' got Ron's father in trouble at work. And it all [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could have been avoided]] if Harry had just owled Hogwarts that they couldn't get onto the platform (which Harry admits that he didn't think of until [=McGonagall=] brought it up), or if they had waited to see if the Weasleys were able to get off the platform (which they could). Along with getting punished by the school, Mrs. Weasley sends a Howler to Ron over this second instance, so that ''everyone in the Great Hall'' can hear it. [[spoiler: The flying car does end up saving them later in the book, however, so their actions weren't entirely for nothing.]]
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''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'': Professor Lupin, one of the kinder teachers and an old friend of Harry's father, calls out Harry for using the Marauder's Map to sneak out of Hogwarts while alleged murderer Sirius Black is at large, [[spoiler: supposedly]] looking for Harry. Lupin brings up that not only could the Map have aided in capturing Sirius Black the last time he was in the castle had Harry handed it in sooner, but that Harry undervalues his parents' sacrifice by being so reckless. He confiscates the Map, and Harry walks away feeling ashamed. [[spoiler: While Sirius turns out not to be the criminal everyone believes he is, it is only after Lupin confiscates the Map that he discovers the truth about the real murderer, Peter Pettigrew.]]
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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving into his demands. However, she finally puts her foot down in the episode “[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]”, after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over not her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offering a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving into his demands. However, she finally puts her foot down in the episode “[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]”, after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over not her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offering a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.
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* Within the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' fandom, it's not uncommon to encounter spitefics in which Charlie finally calls Bella out on her selfish, self-destructive behaviour and her habit of treating him like dirt -- sometimes to the point of just kicking her out of his house. Blog/DasSporking has an archive of them.

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* Within the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' fandom, it's not uncommon to encounter spitefics in which Charlie finally calls Bella out on her selfish, self-destructive behaviour and her habit of treating him like dirt -- sometimes to the point of just kicking her out of his house.house ([[{{Unishment}} which isn’t much of a punishment because she could just live with the Cullens]], but still). Blog/DasSporking has an archive of them.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving into his demands. However, she finally puts her foot down in the episode “[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]”, after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over not her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offered a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving into his demands. However, she finally puts her foot down in the episode “[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]”, after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over not her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offered offering a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.
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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving into his demands. However, she finally puts her foot down in the episode “HUMANCENTiPAD”, after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over not her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offered a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'', Mrs. Cartman has been a doormat to her son throughout the series, constantly spoiling him and giving into his demands. However, she finally puts her foot down in the episode “HUMANCENTiPAD”, “[=HUMANCENTiPAD=]”, after Eric throws a massive tantrum at Best Buy over not her not wanting to spend money on an iPad and offered a cheaper alternative, dragging him out of the store and refusing to buy anything for him at all.

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