Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Added DiffLines:
* UnnecessarilyCruelRejection: In the mini-series, after having an affair with Father Ralph, Meggie leaves her boorish, inconsiderate husband Luke who never even attempted to satisfy her in bed. Her last words to him are, "''You'' complacent, conceited, self-centered bastard! You can't make love for toffee!"
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Trope was cut/disambiguated due to cleanup
Deleted line(s) 69 (click to see context) :
%%* HeroesWantRedheads: Ralph and Meggie, Rain and Justine.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Fixing indentation
Changed line(s) 112 (click to see context) from:
* NoPeriodsPeriod: Averted. Poor Ralph has to explain to Meggie what's actually happening when she starts menstruating, since her mother hasn't bothered to tell her anything at all and Meggie thinks she's dying from a tumor.
to:
* NoPeriodsPeriod: NoPeriodsPeriod:
** Averted. Poor Ralph has to explain to Meggie what's actually happening when she starts menstruating, since her mother hasn't bothered to tell her anything at all and Meggie thinks she's dying from a tumor.
** Averted. Poor Ralph has to explain to Meggie what's actually happening when she starts menstruating, since her mother hasn't bothered to tell her anything at all and Meggie thinks she's dying from a tumor.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Crosswicking
Added DiffLines:
* BaffledByOwnBiology: Meggie is the second youngest child and only girl in a passel of boys. Because her mother is neglectful of her and never bothers to explain anything about puberty to her, when she gets her first period she's convinced she has some horrible, embarrassing kind of cancer of her "bottom" and that she's going to die.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Black Sheep cleanup, removing misuse and ZCE
Deleted line(s) 32 (click to see context) :
%%* BlackSheep: Poor Frank.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Disambig'd trope.
Deleted line(s) 119,122 (click to see context) :
* OedipusComplex:
** Fee and Frank, to a downright disturbing level--he flips out at the sight of Fee's pregnancy, horrified at the undeniable evidence of Fee and Paddy's sexual relationship. The animosity between him and Paddy is outright described as "the rivalry for Fee".
** Reversed with Meggie and Dane--though she actually wants to her son get married and have children, rather than keeping him to herself (though she still sees his decision to become a priest as an attack on her).
** Ralph and Meggie can be seen as a gender swapped version as well.
** Fee and Frank, to a downright disturbing level--he flips out at the sight of Fee's pregnancy, horrified at the undeniable evidence of Fee and Paddy's sexual relationship. The animosity between him and Paddy is outright described as "the rivalry for Fee".
** Reversed with Meggie and Dane--though she actually wants to her son get married and have children, rather than keeping him to herself (though she still sees his decision to become a priest as an attack on her).
** Ralph and Meggie can be seen as a gender swapped version as well.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
renamed trope
* BirthdayBeginning: The book opens on the female protagonist, Meggie Cleary's, fifth birthday... which her mother just barely acknowledges by tossing her an unwrapped doll. She's the youngest child (at the time) and only daughter in a large family of boys. The brothers nearest her age destroy the toy before the day is out. These things set the stage for Meggie being ignored and/or taken advantage of by most of her family right on into adulthood.
Deleted line(s) 68 (click to see context) :
* TheHerosBirthday: The book opens on the female protagonist, Meggie Cleary's, fifth birthday... which her mother just barely acknowledges by tossing her an unwrapped doll. She's the youngest child (at the time) and only daughter in a large family of boys. The brothers nearest her age destroy the toy before the day is out. These things set the stage for Meggie being ignored and/or taken advantage of by most of her family right on into adulthood.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
The character page was started in 2013, and looks pretty extensive to me.
Deleted line(s) 18,19 (click to see context) :
Just starting on a character page.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* ForegoneConclusion: Meggie tells Ralph she's pregnant during ''The Missing Years''. Given that the original MiniSeries only features Justine and Dane as her children, it's a safe bet that she's going to lose the baby, although it's not clear how until Luke slaps her, causing her to fall.
Changed line(s) 77 (click to see context) from:
** Meggie. She spends years lusting after a priest, wanting him to forsake his vows to be with her. She also denounces the church constantly, blaming it for costing her both of the men she loves--Ralph and Dane. She also ultimately commits adultery with said priest and passes his child off as her husband's and blasts her mother for neglecting her and her siblings and blatantly favoring her oldest son. But she won't divorce her husband even though she's left him because she's a "good Catholic" and she neglects her daughter in favor of her son just as her mother did to her. She also blasts Ralph for failing to realize that Dane was his son, overlooking the fact that ''she herself'' never told him.
to:
** Meggie. She spends years lusting after a priest, wanting him to forsake his vows to be with her. She also denounces the church constantly, blaming it for costing her both of the men she loves--Ralph and Dane. She also ultimately commits adultery with said priest and passes his child off as her husband's and husband's--and has the audacity to get angry at Luke when he ''[[JerkassHasAPoint correctly]]'' accuses her of sleeping with Ralph--and blasts her mother for neglecting her and her siblings and blatantly favoring her oldest son. But she won't divorce her husband even though she's left him because she's a "good Catholic" and she neglects her daughter in favor of her son just as her mother did to her. She also blasts Ralph for failing to realize that Dane was his son, overlooking the fact that ''she herself'' never told him.
Changed line(s) 131 (click to see context) from:
* PosthumousVillainVictory: Incensed by Ralph rebuffing her advances and over his love for her niece Meggie, Mary amends her will. Whereas she was originally going to leave everything to her brother Paddy (Meggie's father) and his family, she now leaves the bulk of it to Ralph, even though she still leaves a significant amount to Paddy. Had she left everything to Ralph and left her brother penniless, she knows Ralph would have been angry to refuse the new terms, but this way, he has no reason to do so. Furthermore, with her financial backing, Ralph can begin to advance in the Catholic Church, something else she knows he desperately wants, but simultaneously be separated from his beloved Meggie. Despite their love for each other and even a romantic interlude that results in a son, they're never able to be happy together.
to:
* PosthumousVillainVictory: Incensed by Ralph rebuffing her advances and over his love for her niece Meggie, Mary amends her will. Whereas she was originally going to leave everything to her brother Paddy (Meggie's father) and his family, she now leaves the bulk of it to Ralph, even though she still leaves a significant amount to Paddy. Had she left everything to Ralph and left her brother penniless, she knows Ralph would have been angry enough to refuse the new terms, but this way, he has no reason to do so. Furthermore, with her financial backing, Ralph can begin to advance in the Catholic Church, something else she knows he desperately wants, but simultaneously be separated from his beloved Meggie. Despite their love for each other and even a romantic interlude that results in a son, they're never able to be happy together.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
cross-wicked an example, fleshed out a ZCE
* TheHerosBirthday: The book opens on the female protagonist, Meggie Cleary's, fifth birthday... which her mother just barely acknowledges by tossing her an unwrapped doll. She's the youngest child (at the time) and only daughter in a large family of boys. The brothers nearest her age destroy the toy before the day is out. These things set the stage for Meggie being ignored and/or taken advantage of by most of her family right on into adulthood.
Changed line(s) 71 (click to see context) from:
* HollywoodFire: A massive one destroys some of the Drogheda property, and kills Paddy; his son Stuart finds the body, only to be killed moments later by a wild boar.
to:
* HollywoodFire: A massive one fire destroys some of the Drogheda property, and kills Paddy; his son Stuart finds the body, only to be killed moments later by a wild boar.
Changed line(s) 84 (click to see context) from:
%%* IrishPriest: Ralph.
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 53 (click to see context) from:
* DiedOnTheirBirthday: Mary Carson flat-out declares that she's going to die the night of her 65th birthday and indeed she does.
to:
* DiedOnTheirBirthday: [[spoiler: Mary Carson flat-out declares that she's going to die the night of her 65th birthday birthday, and indeed she does.does]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Deleted line(s) 33 (click to see context) :
* BirthDeathJuxtaposition: Mary flat-out declares that she's going to die the night of her 65th birthday and indeed she does.
Added DiffLines:
* DiedOnTheirBirthday: Mary Carson flat-out declares that she's going to die the night of her 65th birthday and indeed she does.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* CoversAlwaysLie: Meggie and Ralph do share a passionate embrace on the beach, but not in the manner depicted, nor dressed the way they are on the DVD cover (those are their outfits from Mary Carson's birthday party).
Changed line(s) 93 (click to see context) from:
* LoveTriangle: Between Meggie, Ralph, and ''God''. Ralph at one point admits to his superior that it's only after ''hours'' of prayer that he finds the strength to not walk out of the church and go to her, and even after they finally consummate their relationship and he tells him that he found a peace with her that he's never found with God, he ''still'' can't find it in him to leave the priesthood and be with her.
to:
* LoveTriangle: Between Meggie, Ralph, and ''God''. Ralph at one point admits to his superior that it's often only after ''hours'' of prayer that he finds the strength to not walk out of the church and go to her, and even after they finally consummate their relationship and he tells him that he found a peace with her that he's never found with God, he ''still'' can't find it in him to leave the priesthood and be with her.
Added DiffLines:
* UnconventionalWeddingDress: Meggie marries Luke in the "ashes-of-roses" dress that she wore at Mary Carson's birthday party rather than the typical white dress, presumably because it's her best and favorite.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Playing Gertrude is now a disambig
Deleted line(s) 129 (click to see context) :
* PlayingGertrude: Rachel Ward is only a few years older than the actress and actor portraying her children, but this is justified in that she's been playing the role since Meggie was a teenager.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* HorribleHoneymoon: Luke and Meggie have one of these, with her hating sex because of how painful it is, him taking her money and depositing it in the bank, her being too overdressed for the climate and the community, and him ditching her with her new employers after getting her a job as a maid--without telling her until the last minute, and going off to work in the fields.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
merged per TRS [1]. But also was ZCE
Deleted line(s) 53 (click to see context) :
* DeterminedHomesteadersChildren: Meggie and her brothers can be considered examples.