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->"''Those who have read the early drafts of this book have all asked the same questions: "Is this true?" "Did it really happen?" "Are these guys for real?" [[GenreSavvy Thus, I find it necessary to employ an old literal device]]...: ''[[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer The following is a true story. It really happened.]]"
-->-- '''Neil Strauss''', [[RealityIsUnrealistic because the book]] really [[{{Cloudcuckooland}} is that weird.]]

''The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists'' is a 2005 book that explains the techniques and concepts used by a society of pickup artists living within the United States, written in the form of a novel instead of a typical self-help book. Using himself as an example, former ''Magazine/RollingStone'' and ''New York Times'' writer Neil Strauss tells the story of his transformation from an AFC (an "Average Frustrated Chump") to one of the greatest pickup artists in the world.

The book follows Strauss as he signs up for a pickup artist class held by "Mystery", a revered leader in the seduction community. Strauss takes on the ScreenName of "Style" and begins to assimilate the concepts, pickup lines and routines Mystery teaches them. Together with a group of fellow pick-up artists, the duo move into a mansion in UsefulNotes/LosAngeles which they open as a "haven" for other PUA's, called "Project Hollywood". Eventually, however, Strauss finds himself rejected from the community, and learns that all the seduction techniques in the world don't mean much when he finds his true love. The book also breaks down the "codes" used by various PUA's, and details the different types of "seduction communities" that currently exist on message boards.

''The Game'' was a bestseller, and caused a firestorm of controversy from fellow pickup artists who believed Strauss had sold them out. A companion book, ''Rules of the Game'', was released in 2007 and another book that can be considered a sequel, ''The Truth: An Uncomfortable Book about Relationships'' was released in 2015.

Not related to ''Series/TheGame2006'' or ''Series/TheGame2014'' or ''Music/TheGame'' or ''Film/TheGame'' or ''VideoGame/TheGame'' or ''[[Wrestling/TripleH The Game]]'' or even ''The Game''[[MemeticMutation ...that you just lost]].

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!!This book contains examples of:

* AnAesop: Having a life full of women will not solve your problems: only ''you'' can solve them.
--> ''To win the game was to leave it.''
* AssimilationPlot: ZigZagged, possibly Deconstructed.
** Neil himself wants to emulate the top pickup artists, only to later develop his own style. Then, he noticed how everyone else wants to do this, but rather than develop their own style, they copy them verbatim and become "social robots."
** Exploited near the end: [[spoiler:the Real Social Dynamics team decides to teach everyone to emulate Style so he no longer appears unique, weeding him out of the PUA community.]]
* [[BeingEvilSucks Being a PUA Sucks]]: Not an opinion which Style himself completely submits to, but it is more or less the conclusion the book leads up to. Then again, see DoNotDoThisCoolThing below.
* BittersweetEnding:
** Project Hollywood is a disaster, Mystery and Neil are kicked out of the house, and Tyler Durden and Papa take control of the house. However, Mystery recovered, Neil is now comfortable with himself and he got the girl he was after (for the time, at least; see DownerEnding), and Tyler Durden and Papa got kicked out of the house for running a business in a residential zone. Adding more to the sweet in a meta example, rivals Mystery and Ross Jeffries were brought together later by Neil to conduct a seminar together.
** DownerEnding: At the end of the book, [[spoiler:Neil begins a serious relationship with a woman, one that he believes will last for a long, long time]]. Several months after the book was released, [[spoiler:the woman (a former guitarist for mutual friend Courtney Love) broke up with Strauss]].
* CampStraight: Mystery specializes in "peacocking", which is wearing deliberately ridiculous clothing (such as tophats, feather boas, etc.) in order to attract women.
* TheCasanova:
** Almost everybody is one, including some women.
** CasanovaWannabe: However several people are actually this, such as the customers for the courses.
* CerebusSyndrome: Hits about halfway through the book as the lighthearted antics of becoming a PUA turns into a battle for power and struggle for self-fulfillment.
* [[CloudCuckooLander Cloud Cuckoo Landers]]: Virtually the entire cast, save for maybe Neil. Extramask, a comedian, out-Cloudcuckolands everyone.
* CrazyPrepared: Throughout the book, Strauss explains that pickup artists have to be prepared for every possibility, from the first line said to a woman to what would happen if another male attempts to hit on the same woman as the pickup artist.
* DaddyIssues:
** Most of Mystery's issues go back to this.
** One of Neil's attempted conquests in ''Rules of the Game'', Samantha, tells him that her father [[DrivenToSuicide shot himself]] in front of his family at dinner one night and her mother abandoned her when she was young.
* DefrostingIceQueen: The last quarter of the book focuses on Neil's attempts to get a woman named Lisa (a mutual friend of [[GenkiGirl Courtney Love]]) to open up to him, after she [[NoSell no-sells]] his attempts to seduce her.
* DownerBeginning: The prologue [[HowWeGotHere takes place after]] Project Hollywood hits rock bottom, and the opening starts Neil off in a romantically lonely place.
* GenkiGirl: Courtney Love (yes, ''that'' Music/CourtneyLove).
* HeelRealization: The end of ''Rules of the Game'' involves a friend giving Neil a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech blistering speech]] on how the latter has no clue how to maintain a stable long-term relationship because he goes into them expecting to fail. After the friend tells him that couples have to build emotions and not rely solely on sex, Neil comes to an epiphany and pledges not to be as heartless when it comes to relationships.
* HowWeGotHere: The prologue begins as Project Hollywood falls apart and Mystery is on the brink of suicide.
* IdealizedSex:
** Averted early on with Extramasks' post on his first lay. As the book progresses, sex is either treated as ridiculously complex or as no big deal (with one unedited section full of typos that Neil wrote ''while'' having sex).
** The only idealized sexual encounter in the book, wherein Neil [[spoiler:has a wild threesome to get his mind off of Lisa]], is then ruined when [[spoiler:the encounter ''doesn't'' help him get his mind off Lisa]].
** In the case of the two women who are explictly noted to be virgins in ''Rules of the Game'' (Linda and Stacy), the former's first experience is explained by Neil in romanticized detail, while the latter's first experience takes up the course of an entire chapter (via letters written to each other with flowery prose).
* ILoveYouBecauseICantControlYou:
** The book ends with [[spoiler:Neil realizing that the one woman he has feelings for, Lisa, isn't affected at all by his attempts to seduce her, and in the penultimate chapter, he comes clean with her by throwing all the phone numbers he accumulated from women over the years in his bed to convince her that he loves her.]]
** Meta twist: [[spoiler:he ends up losing her anyway after the book is published.]]
* InstantSeduction: This is the basis of the techniques and openers used by Mystery and Style (to great effect), although it's later subverted when Style (months after he walked away from the pickup community) tries his original openers and lines on several different women, only to find that the PUA community had more or less discredited his techniques due to overuse.
* KnightOfCerebus: Katya, who seeks to destroy Project Hollywood by ingratiating herself with the PUA community.
* MadonnaWhoreComplex: Discussed, and named as such. The PUA artists claim that "AllWomenAreLustful" is the truth, but women have a last minute anti-slut defense mechanism that makes them appear as "AllWomenArePrudes", and the key is to appease the former.
* ManipulativeBastard: All the pickup artists, but Tyler Durden and Papa take the cake.
* MentalFusion:
** Part of Neil's training with Steve P. and Rasputin involves this.
** Weaponizing this trope and AssimilationPlot, Tyler Durden [[spoiler:teaches the students to ''become'' Style]].
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: One chapter in ''Rules of the Game'' involves Strauss seducing and bedding two sisters, the latter of whom is younger and chooses him to be [[IdealizedSex her first sexual experience]]. Once he realizes how he hurt the other sister, who found out about what happened and went back to an ex-boyfriend (who subsequently got her hooked on drugs), he realizes he made a terrible mistake.
* NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer: The author writes this in the intro. Who can blame him?
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Neil wonders whether Extramask is really crazy or just trying to be funny.
* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Every character that's in "the community" takes on a nickname ("Style" for the author himself, "Mystery" for another character; one of them calls himself [[Film/FightClub Tyler Durden]]) and they always call / refer to each other by their nicknames, even those of them who know each other in real life and know each other's real names.
* OnlySaneMan: Neil Strauss tries to portray himself as this. Any self-criticism or sense of self-awareness in regards to the many questionable or simply idiotic actions he undertakes is remarkably absent.
* PsychopathicManChild: Mystery, to an extent.
* QuestForSex: Deconstructed: they get it, and [[AnAesop it solves nothing]].
* ReallyGetsAround: All of the [=PUAs=] are guilty of this, especially Mystery. Despite having suicidal thoughts and being dropped off at a mental health clinic by Neil at the opening, he ''still'' attempts to seduce the psychiatrist who's trying to treat him.
* RomanticWingman: Katya performs this role in the original book, while Leslie has this function in a chapter from ''Rules of the Game''.
* SenseiForScoundrels: Strauss holds the mantle of foremost seduction authority in the world for several years, and spends time teaching thousands of hapless men how to seduce and trick women. However, he eventually becomes disillusioned with the community (especially after being driven out by Project Hollywood) and decides to go straight with one woman.
* ShoutOut: Many, but the most obvious one is Tyler Durden, who blatantly took his name from... well, [[Film/FightClub Tyler Durden]]. In fact it's a coincidence that the latter part of the book becomes close to the very plot of Fight Club, what with Project Hollywood and all.
* SpannerInTheWorks: While Project Hollywood was already decaying anyway, Katya turns it into chaos.
* TinyGuyHugeGirl: Neil describes walking through a hotel lobby with a woman on each arm (including his [[RomanticWingman romantic wingwoman]], Leslie) in this way during a chapter from ''Rules of the Game''.
* TookALevelInBadass: Strauss goes from an "average, frustrated chump" who can't get laid to save his life into (for a time) the foremost authority in seduction and pickup artistry ''in the world'', and gets paid thousands of dollars to teach workshops where he seduces even more women.
* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: Papa, who conspires to take down Strauss by teaching his PUA style and methods to the other members of Project Hollywood, thus ostracizing the latter from the community.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Neil Strauss himself is bald and ugly. A significant group of [=PUA=]s from the community don't look any better.
* VillainousBreakdown: The book begins with Mystery having a psychotic breakdown and threatening to kill himself when his girlfriend leaves, before being checked into a mental health clinic.
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->"''Those who have read the early drafts of this book have all asked the same questions: "Is this true?" "Did it really happen?" "Are these guys for real?" [[GenreSavvy Thus, I find it necessary to employ an old literal device]]...: ''[[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer The following is a true story. It really happened.]]"
-->-- '''Neil Strauss''', [[RealityIsUnrealistic because the book]] really [[{{Cloudcuckooland}} is that weird.]]

''The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists'' is a 2005 book that explains the techniques and concepts used by a society of pickup artists living within the United States, written in the form of a novel instead of a typical self-help book. Using himself as an example, former ''Magazine/RollingStone'' and ''New York Times'' writer Neil Strauss tells the story of his transformation from an AFC (an "Average Frustrated Chump") to one of the greatest pickup artists in the world.

The book follows Strauss as he signs up for a pickup artist class held by "Mystery", a revered leader in the seduction community. Strauss takes on the ScreenName of "Style" and begins to assimilate the concepts, pickup lines and routines Mystery teaches them. Together with a group of fellow pick-up artists, the duo move into a mansion in UsefulNotes/LosAngeles which they open as a "haven" for other PUA's, called "Project Hollywood". Eventually, however, Strauss finds himself rejected from the community, and learns that all the seduction techniques in the world don't mean much when he finds his true love. The book also breaks down the "codes" used by various PUA's, and details the different types of "seduction communities" that currently exist on message boards.

''The Game'' was a bestseller, and caused a firestorm of controversy from fellow pickup artists who believed Strauss had sold them out. A companion book, ''Rules of the Game'', was released in 2007 and another book that can be considered a sequel, ''The Truth: An Uncomfortable Book about Relationships'' was released in 2015.

Not related to ''Series/TheGame2006'' or ''Series/TheGame2014'' or ''Music/TheGame'' or ''Film/TheGame'' or ''VideoGame/TheGame'' or ''[[Wrestling/TripleH The Game]]'' or even ''The Game''[[MemeticMutation ...that you just lost]].

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!!This book contains examples of:

* AnAesop: Having a life full of women will not solve your problems: only ''you'' can solve them.
--> ''To win the game was to leave it.''
* AssimilationPlot: ZigZagged, possibly Deconstructed.
** Neil himself wants to emulate the top pickup artists, only to later develop his own style. Then, he noticed how everyone else wants to do this, but rather than develop their own style, they copy them verbatim and become "social robots."
** Exploited near the end: [[spoiler:the Real Social Dynamics team decides to teach everyone to emulate Style so he no longer appears unique, weeding him out of the PUA community.]]
* [[BeingEvilSucks Being a PUA Sucks]]: Not an opinion which Style himself completely submits to, but it is more or less the conclusion the book leads up to. Then again, see DoNotDoThisCoolThing below.
* BittersweetEnding:
** Project Hollywood is a disaster, Mystery and Neil are kicked out of the house, and Tyler Durden and Papa take control of the house. However, Mystery recovered, Neil is now comfortable with himself and he got the girl he was after (for the time, at least; see DownerEnding), and Tyler Durden and Papa got kicked out of the house for running a business in a residential zone. Adding more to the sweet in a meta example, rivals Mystery and Ross Jeffries were brought together later by Neil to conduct a seminar together.
** DownerEnding: At the end of the book, [[spoiler:Neil begins a serious relationship with a woman, one that he believes will last for a long, long time]]. Several months after the book was released, [[spoiler:the woman (a former guitarist for mutual friend Courtney Love) broke up with Strauss]].
* CampStraight: Mystery specializes in "peacocking", which is wearing deliberately ridiculous clothing (such as tophats, feather boas, etc.) in order to attract women.
* TheCasanova:
** Almost everybody is one, including some women.
** CasanovaWannabe: However several people are actually this, such as the customers for the courses.
* CerebusSyndrome: Hits about halfway through the book as the lighthearted antics of becoming a PUA turns into a battle for power and struggle for self-fulfillment.
* [[CloudCuckooLander Cloud Cuckoo Landers]]: Virtually the entire cast, save for maybe Neil. Extramask, a comedian, out-Cloudcuckolands everyone.
* CrazyPrepared: Throughout the book, Strauss explains that pickup artists have to be prepared for every possibility, from the first line said to a woman to what would happen if another male attempts to hit on the same woman as the pickup artist.
* DaddyIssues:
** Most of Mystery's issues go back to this.
** One of Neil's attempted conquests in ''Rules of the Game'', Samantha, tells him that her father [[DrivenToSuicide shot himself]] in front of his family at dinner one night and her mother abandoned her when she was young.
* DefrostingIceQueen: The last quarter of the book focuses on Neil's attempts to get a woman named Lisa (a mutual friend of [[GenkiGirl Courtney Love]]) to open up to him, after she [[NoSell no-sells]] his attempts to seduce her.
* DownerBeginning: The prologue [[HowWeGotHere takes place after]] Project Hollywood hits rock bottom, and the opening starts Neil off in a romantically lonely place.
* GenkiGirl: Courtney Love (yes, ''that'' Music/CourtneyLove).
* HeelRealization: The end of ''Rules of the Game'' involves a friend giving Neil a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech blistering speech]] on how the latter has no clue how to maintain a stable long-term relationship because he goes into them expecting to fail. After the friend tells him that couples have to build emotions and not rely solely on sex, Neil comes to an epiphany and pledges not to be as heartless when it comes to relationships.
* HowWeGotHere: The prologue begins as Project Hollywood falls apart and Mystery is on the brink of suicide.
* IdealizedSex:
** Averted early on with Extramasks' post on his first lay. As the book progresses, sex is either treated as ridiculously complex or as no big deal (with one unedited section full of typos that Neil wrote ''while'' having sex).
** The only idealized sexual encounter in the book, wherein Neil [[spoiler:has a wild threesome to get his mind off of Lisa]], is then ruined when [[spoiler:the encounter ''doesn't'' help him get his mind off Lisa]].
** In the case of the two women who are explictly noted to be virgins in ''Rules of the Game'' (Linda and Stacy), the former's first experience is explained by Neil in romanticized detail, while the latter's first experience takes up the course of an entire chapter (via letters written to each other with flowery prose).
* ILoveYouBecauseICantControlYou:
** The book ends with [[spoiler:Neil realizing that the one woman he has feelings for, Lisa, isn't affected at all by his attempts to seduce her, and in the penultimate chapter, he comes clean with her by throwing all the phone numbers he accumulated from women over the years in his bed to convince her that he loves her.]]
** Meta twist: [[spoiler:he ends up losing her anyway after the book is published.]]
* InstantSeduction: This is the basis of the techniques and openers used by Mystery and Style (to great effect), although it's later subverted when Style (months after he walked away from the pickup community) tries his original openers and lines on several different women, only to find that the PUA community had more or less discredited his techniques due to overuse.
* KnightOfCerebus: Katya, who seeks to destroy Project Hollywood by ingratiating herself with the PUA community.
* MadonnaWhoreComplex: Discussed, and named as such. The PUA artists claim that "AllWomenAreLustful" is the truth, but women have a last minute anti-slut defense mechanism that makes them appear as "AllWomenArePrudes", and the key is to appease the former.
* ManipulativeBastard: All the pickup artists, but Tyler Durden and Papa take the cake.
* MentalFusion:
** Part of Neil's training with Steve P. and Rasputin involves this.
** Weaponizing this trope and AssimilationPlot, Tyler Durden [[spoiler:teaches the students to ''become'' Style]].
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: One chapter in ''Rules of the Game'' involves Strauss seducing and bedding two sisters, the latter of whom is younger and chooses him to be [[IdealizedSex her first sexual experience]]. Once he realizes how he hurt the other sister, who found out about what happened and went back to an ex-boyfriend (who subsequently got her hooked on drugs), he realizes he made a terrible mistake.
* NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer: The author writes this in the intro. Who can blame him?
* ObfuscatingStupidity: Neil wonders whether Extramask is really crazy or just trying to be funny.
* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Every character that's in "the community" takes on a nickname ("Style" for the author himself, "Mystery" for another character; one of them calls himself [[Film/FightClub Tyler Durden]]) and they always call / refer to each other by their nicknames, even those of them who know each other in real life and know each other's real names.
* OnlySaneMan: Neil Strauss tries to portray himself as this. Any self-criticism or sense of self-awareness in regards to the many questionable or simply idiotic actions he undertakes is remarkably absent.
* PsychopathicManChild: Mystery, to an extent.
* QuestForSex: Deconstructed: they get it, and [[AnAesop it solves nothing]].
* ReallyGetsAround: All of the [=PUAs=] are guilty of this, especially Mystery. Despite having suicidal thoughts and being dropped off at a mental health clinic by Neil at the opening, he ''still'' attempts to seduce the psychiatrist who's trying to treat him.
* RomanticWingman: Katya performs this role in the original book, while Leslie has this function in a chapter from ''Rules of the Game''.
* SenseiForScoundrels: Strauss holds the mantle of foremost seduction authority in the world for several years, and spends time teaching thousands of hapless men how to seduce and trick women. However, he eventually becomes disillusioned with the community (especially after being driven out by Project Hollywood) and decides to go straight with one woman.
* ShoutOut: Many, but the most obvious one is Tyler Durden, who blatantly took his name from... well, [[Film/FightClub Tyler Durden]]. In fact it's a coincidence that the latter part of the book becomes close to the very plot of Fight Club, what with Project Hollywood and all.
* SpannerInTheWorks: While Project Hollywood was already decaying anyway, Katya turns it into chaos.
* TinyGuyHugeGirl: Neil describes walking through a hotel lobby with a woman on each arm (including his [[RomanticWingman romantic wingwoman]], Leslie) in this way during a chapter from ''Rules of the Game''.
* TookALevelInBadass: Strauss goes from an "average, frustrated chump" who can't get laid to save his life into (for a time) the foremost authority in seduction and pickup artistry ''in the world'', and gets paid thousands of dollars to teach workshops where he seduces even more women.
* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: Papa, who conspires to take down Strauss by teaching his PUA style and methods to the other members of Project Hollywood, thus ostracizing the latter from the community.
* UglyGuyHotWife: Neil Strauss himself is bald and ugly. A significant group of [=PUA=]s from the community don't look any better.
* VillainousBreakdown: The book begins with Mystery having a psychotic breakdown and threatening to kill himself when his girlfriend leaves, before being checked into a mental health clinic.
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->''"Those who have read the early drafts of this book have all asked the same questions: 'Is this true?' 'Did it really happen?' 'Are these guys for real?' [[GenreSavvy Thus, I find it necessary to employ an old literal device...]] [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer The following is a true story. It really happened.]]"''
-->--'''Neil Strauss''', [[RealityIsUnrealistic because the book]] [[{{Cloudcuckooland}} is really that weird.]]

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''The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists'' is a 2005 book that explains the techniques and concepts used by a society of pickup artists living within the United States, written in the form of a novel instead of a typical self-help book. Using himself as an example, former ''Rolling Stone'' and ''New York Times'' writer Neil Strauss tells the story of his transformation from an AFC (an "Average Frustrated Chump") to one of the greatest pickup artists in the world.

The book follows Strauss as he signs up for a pickup artist class held by "Mystery", a revered leader in the seduction community. Strauss takes on the ScreenName of "Style" and begins to assimilate the concepts, pickup lines and routines Mystery teaches them. Together with a group of fellow pick-up artists, the duo move to a mansion in UsefulNotes/LosAngeles and open a haven for other PUA's, which they dub "Project Hollywood". Eventually, however, Strauss finds himself rejected from the community, and learns that all the seduction techniques in the world don't mean much when he finds his true love. The book also breaks down the "codes" used by various PUA's, and details the different types of "seduction communities" that currently exist on message boards.

''The Game'' was a bestseller, and caused a firestorm of controversy from fellow pickup artists who believed Strauss had sold them out. A companion book, "Rules of the Game", was released in 2007.

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''The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists'' is a 2005 book that explains the techniques and concepts used by a society of pickup artists living within the United States, written in the form of a novel instead of a typical self-help book. Using himself as an example, former ''Rolling Stone'' ''Magazine/RollingStone'' and ''New York Times'' writer Neil Strauss tells the story of his transformation from an AFC (an "Average Frustrated Chump") to one of the greatest pickup artists in the world.

The book follows Strauss as he signs up for a pickup artist class held by "Mystery", a revered leader in the seduction community. Strauss takes on the ScreenName of "Style" and begins to assimilate the concepts, pickup lines and routines Mystery teaches them. Together with a group of fellow pick-up artists, the duo move to into a mansion in UsefulNotes/LosAngeles and which they open as a haven "haven" for other PUA's, which they dub called "Project Hollywood". Eventually, however, Strauss finds himself rejected from the community, and learns that all the seduction techniques in the world don't mean much when he finds his true love. The book also breaks down the "codes" used by various PUA's, and details the different types of "seduction communities" that currently exist on message boards.

''The Game'' was a bestseller, and caused a firestorm of controversy from fellow pickup artists who believed Strauss had sold them out. A companion book, "Rules ''Rules of the Game", Game'', was released in 2007.
2007 and another book that can be considered a sequel, ''The Truth: An Uncomfortable Book about Relationships'' was released in 2015.


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* FlameBait[=/=]InternetBackdraft: Just discussing this book and the seduction community online is liable to cause a heated argument, especially near feminists.

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* AllWomenAreLustful[=/=]AllWomenArePrudes: Discussed, the PUA artists claim that the former is the truth, but women have a last minute anti-slut defense mechanism that puts the latter as a facade, and the key is to appease the former.


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* MadonnaWhoreComplex: Discussed, and named as such. The PUA artists claim that "AllWomenAreLustful" is the truth, but women have a last minute anti-slut defense mechanism that makes them appear as "AllWomenArePrudes", and the key is to appease the former.
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The book follows Strauss as he signs up for a pickup artist class held by "Mystery", a revered leader in the seduction community. Strauss takes on the ScreenName of "Style" and begins to assimilate the concepts, pickup lines and routines Mystery teaches them. Together with a group of fellow pick-up artists, the duo move to a mansion in Los Angeles and open a haven for other PUA's, which they dub "Project Hollywood". Eventually, however, Strauss finds himself rejected from the community, and learns that all the seduction techniques in the world don't mean much when he finds his true love. The book also breaks down the "codes" used by various PUA's, and details the different types of "seduction communities" that currently exist on message boards.

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The book follows Strauss as he signs up for a pickup artist class held by "Mystery", a revered leader in the seduction community. Strauss takes on the ScreenName of "Style" and begins to assimilate the concepts, pickup lines and routines Mystery teaches them. Together with a group of fellow pick-up artists, the duo move to a mansion in Los Angeles UsefulNotes/LosAngeles and open a haven for other PUA's, which they dub "Project Hollywood". Eventually, however, Strauss finds himself rejected from the community, and learns that all the seduction techniques in the world don't mean much when he finds his true love. The book also breaks down the "codes" used by various PUA's, and details the different types of "seduction communities" that currently exist on message boards.
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* AllWomenAreLustful / AllWomenArePrudes: Discussed, the PUA artists claim that the former is the truth, but women have a last minute anti-slut defense mechanism that puts the latter as a facade, and the key is to appease the former.

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* AllWomenAreLustful / AllWomenArePrudes: AllWomenAreLustful[=/=]AllWomenArePrudes: Discussed, the PUA artists claim that the former is the truth, but women have a last minute anti-slut defense mechanism that puts the latter as a facade, and the key is to appease the former.
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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: The book concludes that the Seduction Community can become hollow over time and that being able to pick up scores of women will not solve your problems; in fact, as the climax shows, it can actually make things worse, and perhaps the only way to make your life better is to do it yourself. Yet, many [=PUAs=] cite that this is the book that started their journey.

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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Project Hollywood is a disaster, Mystery and Neil are kicked out of the house, and Tyler Durden and Papa take control of the house.]] However, [[spoiler:Mystery recovered, Neil is now comfortable with himself and he got the girl he was after (for the time, at least; see DownerEnding), and Tyler Durden and Papa got kicked out of the house for running a business in a residential zone.]] Adding more to the sweet in a meta example, [[spoiler:rivals Mystery and Ross Jeffries were brought together later by Neil to conduct a seminar together.]]

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Hollywood is a disaster, Mystery and Neil are kicked out of the house, and Tyler Durden and Papa take control of the house.]] house. However, [[spoiler:Mystery Mystery recovered, Neil is now comfortable with himself and he got the girl he was after (for the time, at least; see DownerEnding), and Tyler Durden and Papa got kicked out of the house for running a business in a residential zone.]] zone. Adding more to the sweet in a meta example, [[spoiler:rivals rivals Mystery and Ross Jeffries were brought together later by Neil to conduct a seminar together.]]



* TheCasanova: Almost everybody is one, including some women.

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* DaddyIssues: Most of Mystery's issues go back to this.

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* DaddyIssues: DaddyIssues:
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** One of Neil's attempted conquests in ''Rules of the Game'', Samantha, tells him that her father [[DrivenToSuicide shot himself]] in front of his family at dinner one night and her mother abandoned her when she was young.
* DefrostingIceQueen: The last quarter of the book focuses on Neil's attempts to get a woman named Lisa (a mutual friend of [[GenkiGirl Courtney Love]]) to open up to him, after she [[NoSell no-sells]] his attempts to seduce her.



* FlameBait+InternetBackdraft: Just discussing this book and the seduction community online is liable to cause a heated argument, especially near feminists.
* GenkiGirl: Courney Love (yes, THAT Music/CourtneyLove)

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* FlameBait+InternetBackdraft: FlameBait[=/=]InternetBackdraft: Just discussing this book and the seduction community online is liable to cause a heated argument, especially near feminists.
* GenkiGirl: Courney Courtney Love (yes, THAT Music/CourtneyLove)''that'' Music/CourtneyLove).
* HeelRealization: The end of ''Rules of the Game'' involves a friend giving Neil a [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech blistering speech]] on how the latter has no clue how to maintain a stable long-term relationship because he goes into them expecting to fail. After the friend tells him that couples have to build emotions and not rely solely on sex, Neil comes to an epiphany and pledges not to be as heartless when it comes to relationships.



* ILoveYouBecauseICantControlYou: The book ends with [[spoiler:Neil realizing that the one woman he has feelings for, Lisa, isn't affected at all by his attempts to seduce her, and in the penultimate chapter, he comes clean with her by throwing all the phone numbers he accumulated from women over the years in his bed to convince her that he loves her.]]

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* ILoveYouBecauseICantControlYou: IdealizedSex:
** Averted early on with Extramasks' post on his first lay. As the book progresses, sex is either treated as ridiculously complex or as no big deal (with one unedited section full of typos that Neil wrote ''while'' having sex).
** The only idealized sexual encounter in the book, wherein Neil [[spoiler:has a wild threesome to get his mind off of Lisa]], is then ruined when [[spoiler:the encounter ''doesn't'' help him get his mind off Lisa]].
** In the case of the two women who are explictly noted to be virgins in ''Rules of the Game'' (Linda and Stacy), the former's first experience is explained by Neil in romanticized detail, while the latter's first experience takes up the course of an entire chapter (via letters written to each other with flowery prose).
* ILoveYouBecauseICantControlYou:
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The book ends with [[spoiler:Neil realizing that the one woman he has feelings for, Lisa, isn't affected at all by his attempts to seduce her, and in the penultimate chapter, he comes clean with her by throwing all the phone numbers he accumulated from women over the years in his bed to convince her that he loves her.]]



* IdealizedSex: Averted early on with Extramasks' post on his first lay. As the book progresses, sex is either treated as ridiculously complex or as no big deal (with one unedited section full of typos that Neil wrote ''while'' having sex). The only idealized sexual encounter in the book, wherein Neil [[spoiler:has a wild threesome to get his mind off of Lisa]], is then ruined when [[spoiler:the encounter ''doesn't'' help him get his mind off Lisa]].



* KnightOfCerebus: Katya

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* KnightOfCerebus: KatyaKatya, who seeks to destroy Project Hollywood by ingratiating herself with the PUA community.



* MentalFusion: Part of Neil's training with Steve P. and Rasputin.
** Weaponizing this trope and AssimilationPlot, Tyler Durden [[spoiler:teaches the students to BECOME Style]].

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* MentalFusion: MentalFusion:
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Part of Neil's training with Steve P. and Rasputin.
Rasputin involves this.
** Weaponizing this trope and AssimilationPlot, Tyler Durden [[spoiler:teaches the students to BECOME Style]]. ''become'' Style]].
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: One chapter in ''Rules of the Game'' involves Strauss seducing and bedding two sisters, the latter of whom is younger and chooses him to be [[IdealizedSex her first sexual experience]]. Once he realizes how he hurt the other sister, who found out about what happened and went back to an ex-boyfriend (who subsequently got her hooked on drugs), he realizes he made a terrible mistake.



* SenseiForScoundrels

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* SenseiForScoundrelsReallyGetsAround: All of the [=PUAs=] are guilty of this, especially Mystery. Despite having suicidal thoughts and being dropped off at a mental health clinic by Neil at the opening, he ''still'' attempts to seduce the psychiatrist who's trying to treat him.
* RomanticWingman: Katya performs this role in the original book, while Leslie has this function in a chapter from ''Rules of the Game''.
* SenseiForScoundrels: Strauss holds the mantle of foremost seduction authority in the world for several years, and spends time teaching thousands of hapless men how to seduce and trick women. However, he eventually becomes disillusioned with the community (especially after being driven out by Project Hollywood) and decides to go straight with one woman.



* TinyGuyHugeGirl: Neil describes walking through a hotel lobby with a woman on each arm (including his [[RomanticWingman romantic wingwoman]], Leslie) in this way during a chapter from ''Rules of the Game''.



* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: Papa

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* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: PapaPapa, who conspires to take down Strauss by teaching his PUA style and methods to the other members of Project Hollywood, thus ostracizing the latter from the community.



* VillainousBreakdown: The book begins with Mystery having a psychotic breakdown and threatening to kill himself when his girlfriend leaves, before being checked into a mental health clinic.

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* GenkiGirl: Courney Love (yes, THAT CourtneyLove)

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* GenkiGirl: Courney Love (yes, THAT CourtneyLove)Music/CourtneyLove)
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->"Those who have read the early drafts of this book have all asked the same questions: 'Is this true?' 'Did it really happen?' 'Are these guys for real?' [[GenreSavvy Thus, I find it necessary to employ an old literal device...]] [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer The following is a true story. It really happened."]]
-->Neil Strauss, [[RealityIsUnrealistic because the book]] [[{{Cloudcuckooland}} is really that weird.]]

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-->--'''Neil Strauss''',
[[RealityIsUnrealistic because the book]] [[{{Cloudcuckooland}} is really that weird.]]
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* ObfuscatingStupidity: Neil one time thinks whether Extramask is really crazy or just trying to be funny.

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* ShoutOut: Many, but the most obvious one is Tyler Durden, who blatantly took his name from... well, [[FightClub Tyler Durden]]. In fact it's a coincidence that the latter part of the book becomes close to the very plot of Fight Club, what with Project Hollywood and all.

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* ShoutOut: Many, but the most obvious one is Tyler Durden, who blatantly took his name from... well, [[FightClub [[Film/FightClub Tyler Durden]]. In fact it's a coincidence that the latter part of the book becomes close to the very plot of Fight Club, what with Project Hollywood and all.
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->"Those who have read the early drafts of this book have all asked the same questions: 'Is this true?' 'Did it really happen?' 'Are these guys for real?' [[GenreSavvy Thus, I find it neccessary to employ an old literal device...]] [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer The following is a true story. It really happened."]]

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->"Those who have read the early drafts of this book have all asked the same questions: 'Is this true?' 'Did it really happen?' 'Are these guys for real?' [[GenreSavvy Thus, I find it neccessary necessary to employ an old literal device...]] [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer The following is a true story. It really happened."]]

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** * DownerEnding: At the end of the book, [[spoiler:Neil begins a serious relationship with a woman, one that he believes will last for a long, long time]]. Several months after the book was released, [[spoiler:the woman (a former guitarist for mutual friend Courtney Love) broke up with Strauss]].

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** * DownerEnding: At the end of the book, [[spoiler:Neil begins a serious relationship with a woman, one that he believes will last for a long, long time]]. Several months after the book was released, [[spoiler:the woman (a former guitarist for mutual friend Courtney Love) broke up with Strauss]].



* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: The book concludes that the Seduction Community can become hollow over time and that being able to pick up scores of women will not solve your problems; in fact, as the climax shows, it can actually make things worse, and perhaps the only way to make your life better is to do it yourself. Yet, many [=PUAs=] cite that this is the book that started their journey.

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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: The book concludes that the Seduction Community can become hollow over time and that being able to pick up scores of women will not solve your problems; in fact, as the climax shows, it can actually make things worse, and perhaps the only way to make your life better is to do it yourself. Yet, many [=PUAs=] cite that this is the book that started their journey.journey.
* DownerBeginning: The prologue [[HowWeGotHere takes place after]] Project Hollywood hits rock bottom, and the opening starts Neil off in a romantically lonely place.


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* HowWeGotHere: The prologue begins as Project Hollywood falls apart and Mystery is on the brink of suicide.


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* IdealizedSex: Averted early on with Extramasks' post on his first lay. As the book progresses, sex is either treated as ridiculously complex or as no big deal (with one unedited section full of typos that Neil wrote ''while'' having sex). The only idealized sexual encounter in the book, wherein Neil [[spoiler:has a wild threesome to get his mind off of Lisa]], is then ruined when [[spoiler:the encounter ''doesn't'' help him get his mind off Lisa]].

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* AssimilationPlot: ZigZagged, possibly Deconstructed. The assimilation is unconscious and inadvertent. Everyone wants to mirror the top pickup artists, soon becoming what Neil called, "social robots."

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* AnAesop: Having a life full of women will not solve your problems: only ''you'' can solve them.
--> ''To win the game was to leave it.''
* AssimilationPlot: ZigZagged, possibly Deconstructed. The assimilation is unconscious and inadvertent. Everyone
** Neil himself
wants to mirror emulate the top pickup artists, soon becoming what Neil called, only to later develop his own style. Then, he noticed how everyone else wants to do this, but rather than develop their own style, they copy them verbatim and become "social robots." "
** Exploited near the end: [[spoiler:the Real Social Dynamics team decides to teach everyone to emulate Style so he no longer appears unique, weeding him out of the PUA community.]]



* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Project Hollywood is a disaster, Mystery and Neil are kicked out of the house, and Tyler Durden and Papa take control of the house.]] However, [[spoiler:Mystery recovered, Neil is now comfortable with himself and he got the girl he was after (for the time, at least; see DownerEnding), and Tyler Durden and Papa got kicked out of the house for running a business in a residential zone.]] Adding more to the sweet in a meta example, [[spoiler:rivals Mystery and Ross Jeffries were brought together later by Neil to conduct a seminar together.]]
** * DownerEnding: At the end of the book, [[spoiler:Neil begins a serious relationship with a woman, one that he believes will last for a long, long time]]. Several months after the book was released, [[spoiler:the woman (a former guitarist for mutual friend Courtney Love) broke up with Strauss]].



* CerebusSyndrome: Hits about halfway through the book.
* [[CloudCuckooLander Cloud Cuckoo Landers]]: More than you can count.

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* CerebusSyndrome: Hits about halfway through the book.
book as the lighthearted antics of becoming a PUA turns into a battle for power and struggle for self-fulfillment.
* [[CloudCuckooLander Cloud Cuckoo Landers]]: More than you can count.Virtually the entire cast, save for maybe Neil. Extramask, a comedian, out-Cloudcuckolands everyone.



* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Sure, the book concludes that the goals of the Seduction Community become hollow very quickly; But what man wouldn't want to have the ability to seduce any woman he desires?
* DownerEnding: At the end of the book, Neil begins a serious relationship with a woman, one that he believes will last for a long, long time. Several months after the book was released, the woman (a former guitarist for mutual friend Courtney Love) broke up with Strauss.

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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Sure, the The book concludes that the goals of the Seduction Community can become hollow very quickly; But what man wouldn't want to have the ability to seduce any woman he desires?
* DownerEnding: At the end of the book, Neil begins a serious relationship with a woman, one
over time and that he believes being able to pick up scores of women will last for a long, long time. Several months after not solve your problems; in fact, as the climax shows, it can actually make things worse, and perhaps the only way to make your life better is to do it yourself. Yet, many [=PUAs=] cite that this is the book was released, the woman (a former guitarist for mutual friend Courtney Love) broke up with Strauss.that started their journey.



* ILoveYouBecauseICantControlYou: The book ends with Neil realizing that the one woman he has feelings for, Lisa, isn't affected at all by his attempts to seduce her, and in the penultimate chapter, he comes clean with her by throwing all the phone numbers he accumulated from women over the years in his bed to convince her that he loves her.

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* ILoveYouBecauseICantControlYou: The book ends with Neil [[spoiler:Neil realizing that the one woman he has feelings for, Lisa, isn't affected at all by his attempts to seduce her, and in the penultimate chapter, he comes clean with her by throwing all the phone numbers he accumulated from women over the years in his bed to convince her that he loves her.]]
** Meta twist: [[spoiler:he ends up losing her anyway after the book is published.]]



* MentalFusion: Tyler Durden practically teaches the students to BECOME Style.

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* MentalFusion: Part of Neil's training with Steve P. and Rasputin.
** Weaponizing this trope and AssimilationPlot,
Tyler Durden practically teaches [[spoiler:teaches the students to BECOME Style.Style]].



* QuestForSex

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* [[BeingEvilSucks Being a PUA Sucks]]: Not an opinion which Style himself completely submits to, but it is more or less the conclusion the book leads up to.

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* [[BeingEvilSucks Being a PUA Sucks]]: Not an opinion which Style himself completely submits to, but it is more or less the conclusion the book leads up to. Then again, see DoNotDoThisCoolThing below.
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* DoNotDoThisCoolThing: Sure, the book concludes that the goals of the Seduction Community become hollow very quickly; But what man wouldn't want to have the ability to seduce any woman he desires?
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* RefugeInAudacity: This is what stems from Strauss' NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer, as he details several situations that he later admits seem too ridiculous to be true. He explains how he was stopped with three other pickup artists at a military checkpoint in Yugoslavia without a passport (and thought he was going to be shot on sight by the guards), expresses disbelief at being able to seduce BritneySpears and steal women from Scott Baio and Andy Dick, and later picks up a woman from a Russian casino while her boyfriend and security look on angrily.
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** CasanovaWannabe: However several people are actually this, spending more time looking for ways to attract more customers for the courses and playing videogames, than actaully seducing women.

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** CasanovaWannabe: However several people are actually this, spending more time looking for ways to attract more such as the customers for the courses and playing videogames, than actaully seducing women.courses.

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