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* FantasticRacism: The rapid expansion of the Settlers has inflamed the already simmering hostilities between them and the Spacers who, despite still being more technologically advanced, cannot compete with the Settler's burgeoning population. Some Spacers are content to live out their lives in peace and let the Settlers do what they want with the rest of the galaxy, while others feel the need for action. Amadiro, who never liked Earthmen to begin with, is the [[GeneralRipper most extreme form of the latter]].
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* CursedWithAwesome: The reason Giskard doesn't [[spoiler:give Daneel his mind-altering abilities until his imminent death]] is because, despite how useful it is, it is also a terrible burden. You might think being able to read peoples' thoughts like a book would make it easier to be ThreeLawsCompliant, but due to how sensitive human minds are, it's actually harder.
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* LukeYouAreMyFather: Mandamus introduces himself as the great-great-great-grandson of Gladia. Though startled Gladia is not particularly impressed by the relationship. She had a son and daughter with Gemionis and while her children meant something to her their remote descendants - not so much.

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* LukeYouAreMyFather: Mandamus introduces himself as the great-great-great-grandson of Gladia. Though startled Gladia is not particularly impressed by the relationship. She had a son and daughter with Gemionis Gremionis and while her children meant something to her their remote descendants - not so much.
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* JerkAssWoobie: Vasilia downward emotional spiral continues. Basically she ruins her own life and manages to alienate everybody she ever cared about from her father to Giskard - but it's [[NeverMyFault never her fault]].

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* JerkAssWoobie: Vasilia Vasilia's downward emotional spiral continues. Basically she ruins her own life and manages to alienate everybody she ever cared about from her father to Giskard - but it's [[NeverMyFault never her fault]].
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* JerkAssWoobie: Vasilia downward emotional spiral continues. Basically she ruins her own life and manages to alienate everybody she ever cared about from her father to Giskard - but it's [[NotMyFault never ''her'' fault]].

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* JerkAssWoobie: Vasilia downward emotional spiral continues. Basically she ruins her own life and manages to alienate everybody she ever cared about from her father to Giskard - but it's [[NotMyFault [[NeverMyFault never ''her'' her fault]].
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* JerkAssWoobie: Vasilia downward emotional spiral continues. Basically she ruins her own life and manages to alienate everybody she ever cared about from her father to Giskard - but it's [[NotMyFault never ''her'' fault]].
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* LukeYouAreMyFather: Mandamus introduces himself as the great-great-great-grandson of Gladia.

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* LukeYouAreMyFather: Mandamus introduces himself as the great-great-great-grandson of Gladia. Though startled Gladia is not particularly impressed by the relationship. She had a son and daughter with Gemionis and while her children meant something to her their remote descendants - not so much.
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* WeAreAsMayflies: As with the rest of the books, Earthmen (and Settlers, who are directly descended from them), with their 100-year lifespans, are contrasted against the Spacers, who live to near 400. Notably, [[BigBad Keldon Amadiro]] seems to view this trope rather literally, describing the Settlers as disease-ridden insects that are infesting the galaxy.

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* WeAreAsMayflies: As with the rest of the books, Earthmen (and Settlers, who are directly descended from them), with their 100-year lifespans, are contrasted against the Spacers, who live to near 400. Notably, [[BigBad Keldon Kelden Amadiro]] seems to view this trope rather literally, describing the Settlers as disease-ridden insects that are infesting the galaxy.
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* BatmanGrabsAGun: A ''villainous'' example. [[spoiler:Spacers are extremely averse to violence, and Mandamus' entire plan is supposed to be non-violent. However, in order to ensure his plan is carried out the way he wants, Amadiro buys a blaster and threatens to kill Mandamus if he doesn't set the dials as ordered.]]
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* [[spoiler:BequeathedPower: Before he dies Giskard grants Daneel his ability to telepathically influence people and read emotions, so Daneel can continue applying the Zeroth Law to help humanity without Giskard.]]
* [[spoiler:BittersweetEnding: Giskard allows Mandamus to set the Nuclear Intensifier to its 150-year setting, in the hope that doing so will propel humanity to leave Earth once and for all, to settle a vibrant Galactic Empire. However, since he is not sure if he caused harm or good by that decision, his positronic brain begins to shut down. He uses his last moments to grant his psychic powers to Daneel and to reprogram Daneel to be fully compliant with the Zeroth Law of Robotics. See FlingALightIntoTheFuture.]]

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* [[spoiler:BequeathedPower: Before BequeathedPower: [[spoiler:Before he dies Giskard grants Daneel his ability to telepathically influence people and read emotions, so Daneel can continue applying the Zeroth Law to help humanity without Giskard.]]
* [[spoiler:BittersweetEnding: Giskard BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Giskard allows Mandamus to set the Nuclear Intensifier to its 150-year setting, in the hope that doing so will propel humanity to leave Earth once and for all, to settle a vibrant Galactic Empire. However, since he is not sure if he caused harm or good by that decision, his positronic brain begins to shut down. He uses his last moments to grant his psychic powers to Daneel and to reprogram Daneel to be fully compliant with the Zeroth Law of Robotics. See FlingALightIntoTheFuture.]]
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* MidLifeCrisisCar: Apparently, Spacers have a tendency toward Mid Life Crisis ''Robots''.

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* FinalSolution: [[spoiler:Inverted. The "solution" actually turns out to have a positive effect on its target.]]



* FinalSolution: [[spoiler:Inverted. The "solution" actually turns out to have a positive effect on its target.]]
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* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: This novel is the bridging between Asimov's ''Robot'' and ''Empire'' novels.
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* TitleDrop: Twice. First near the beginning, then a the very end.

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* TitleDrop: Twice. First near the beginning, then a at the very end.
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* PistolWhip: When D.G. is fighting with the Overseer, she grabs his hand holding the blaster. In his other hand he has a neuronic whip, a weapon that is useful for incapacitating humans, but is useless against robots, so he tries to hit her with it. It apparently doesn't work on robots either.

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* PistolWhip: When While Daneel is fighting with the Overseer, D.G. is fighting with the Overseer, she grabs his hand holding the blaster. In his other hand he has attempts that (with a [[AgonyBeam neuronic whip, whip]], which won't have an effect if shot at her). Since she's a weapon that is useful for incapacitating humans, but is useless against robots, so he tries to hit her with it. It apparently doesn't work on robots either.robot, it has about as much effect as you would expect.



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* TitleDrop: At Twice. First near the beginning, then a the very end.

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* AltumVidetur: Mandamus introduces his plans to Amadiro with a message reading "''Ceterum censeo, delenda est Carthago''"[[labelnote:translation]]"In my opinion, Carthage must be destroyed"[[/labelnote]].



* {{Facepalm}}: D.G. when Gladia makes a grand speech on Baleyworld despite him specifically asking her only to say a few words.



* LukeYouAreMyFather: Mandamus introduces himself as the great-great-great-grandson of Gladia.
* ManipulativeBastard: Mandamus.



* MeaningfulName: In Latin, ''Mandamus'' means "''we command''".
* MetaphoricallyTrue: Giskard compliments Daneel that his clever use of this trope can work just as well if not better than his own mind altering ability.



* OneMarioLimit: In Baleyworld the names Daneel, Giskard, as well as Jezebel and Jessie are very common. However, Elijah ("The Ancestor") Baley specifically asked the settlers not to name anyone Elijah or Gladia.



* PistolWhip: When D.G. is fighting with the Overseer, she grabs his hand holding the blaster. In his other hand he has a neuronic whip, a weapon that is useful for incapacitating humans, but is useless against robots, so he tries to hit her with it. It apparently doesn't work on robots either.



* SpaceIsAnOcean: Lampshaded by D.G. when he introduces Baleyworld to Gladia.
* TakeAThirdOption: When approached by the Auroran warship, Daneel suspects that if they send Giskard and Gladia to them in a lifeboat, the Aurorans would shoot them before they would arrive. He suggests to Jump instead, but D.G. refuses to run away. Instead, he decides to ram the enemy ship in the hope that ''they'' will Jump (which they do).



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* XanatosGambit: The real reason for the Auroran warship stopped them at the edge of Earth's solar system is to distract them while Amadiro and Mandamus land on Earth.
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* {{Flashback}}: Elijah Baley, being dead this time around, only appears in flashbacks of events that happened between books: one of his brief rendezvous with Gladia in orbit above Aurora, and one of his last conversation with Daneel while on his deathbed.
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* YouAreWhatYouHate: Averted. At the beginning, Dr. Mandamus tries to obtain evidence from Gladia that he is not the descendant of Elijah Baley, claiming Amadiro suspects him of being one, and that prevents him from making a career. While given enough evidence, he claims it won't be enough for Amadiro, yet still seems to leave triumphant. Daneel figures out the reason - there was enough evidence to convince ''Mandamus'', [[spoiler:so now he can proceed with his plans to destroy Earth without being hindered by the trope]].
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* TookALevelInJerkass: Amadiro and Vasilia.
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Creator/IsaacAsimov's direct sequel to ''Literature/TheRobotsOfDawn'', ''Robots and Empire'' [[CanonWelding bridges]] the Robot Trilogy with the chronologically later ''Empire'' and ''{{Foundation}}'' novels. 200 years after the death of the protagonist of the Robot Trilogy, Elijah "Lije" Baley, the balance of power has begun to shift back toward the humans of Earth, who have begun settling new worlds thanks to his efforts. The Spacers, descendants of the first wave of space colonists, are troubled by the apparent extinction of human life on Solaria, the latest- and most sparsely-settled of the Spacer worlds. Gladia "Solaria" Delmarre, Elijah's onetime lover and the only Solarian ever to emigrate, is sent along with one of Elijah's descendents, and her loyal robot servants R. Daneel Olivaw and R. Giskard Reventlov, to investigate. What they find there leads the real protagonists, Daneel and Giskard, to investigate a conspiracy with implications for human life on Earth and throughout the galaxy.

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Creator/IsaacAsimov's direct sequel to ''Literature/TheRobotsOfDawn'', ''Robots and Empire'' [[CanonWelding bridges]] the Robot Trilogy with the chronologically later ''Empire'' and ''{{Foundation}}'' novels. 200 years after the death of the protagonist of the Robot Trilogy, Elijah "Lije" Baley, the balance of power has begun to shift back toward the humans of Earth, who have begun settling new worlds thanks to his efforts. The Spacers, descendants of the first wave of space colonists, are troubled by the apparent extinction of human life on Solaria, the latest- and most sparsely-settled of the Spacer worlds. Gladia "Solaria" Delmarre, Elijah's onetime lover and the only Solarian ever to emigrate, is sent along with one of Elijah's descendents, descendants, and her loyal robot servants R. Daneel Olivaw and R. Giskard Reventlov, to investigate. What they find there leads the real protagonists, Daneel and Giskard, to investigate a conspiracy with implications for human life on Earth and throughout the galaxy.
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* NothingLeftToDoButDie: Subverted. Gladia describes to D.G. how the long-lived Spacers someday reach a point when life becomes boring, and they feel they have seen it all. However, when he asks her how common suicide is among Spacers, she answers "Zero. Suicide is impossible when surrounded by ThreeLawsCompliant robots."
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* HappilyMarried: Gladia is revealed to have enjoyed a 'very successful' century long marriage to Santirix Gemionis. Their eventual separation seems to have been more than amicable as she remembers him fondly.

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* HappilyMarried: Gladia is revealed to have enjoyed a 'very successful' century long marriage to Santirix Gemionis. Their eventual separation seems to have been [[AmicableExes more than amicable amicable]] as she remembers him fondly.
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* OverclockingAttack: A device doing that to nuclear reactors is important to the plot.

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* OverclockingAttack: A device doing that to nuclear reactors accelerate the rate of radioactive decay of uranium and thorium is important to the plot.
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* DarkerAndEdgier: The themes of this book take a noticeable turn for the macabre compared to the first three. The BigBad, initially a WellIntentionedExtremist with too much ambition, has turned into an aspiring mass-murderer. And instead of a politically-motivated murder mystery, the eradication of Earth's population and an interstellar war loom on the horizon. Then there's the BittersweetEnding thrown in for good measure.
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* RevengeBeforeReason: Amadiro is so determined [[spoiler:to see Earth destroyed, that he's unwilling to allow a 150 years time for the citizens to leave the planet safely, because he won't be alive by that time. Instead, he wants Earth to become dangerously irradiated in about two years, despite that it would cause both millions of Earthmen to die and would raise suspicion among the Settlers, probably leading to a war between them and the Spacers. Amadiro even makes preparations to kill Mandamus himself if necessary, since he rightfully suspects the latter wouldn't agree to go along with his plan.]]

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* RevengeBeforeReason: Amadiro is so determined [[spoiler:to see Earth destroyed, that he's unwilling to allow a 150 years time for the citizens to leave the planet safely, because he won't be alive by that time. Instead, he wants Earth to become dangerously irradiated in about two twenty years, despite that it would cause both millions of Earthmen to die and would raise suspicion among the Settlers, probably leading to a war between them and the Spacers. Amadiro even makes preparations to kill Mandamus himself if necessary, since he rightfully suspects the latter wouldn't agree to go along with his plan.]]
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* HappilyMarried: Gladia is revealed to have enjoyed a 'very successful' century long marriage to Santirix

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* HappilyMarried: Gladia is revealed to have enjoyed a 'very successful' century long marriage to SantirixSantirix Gemionis. Their eventual separation seems to have been more than amicable as she remembers him fondly.
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* HappilyMarried: Gladia is revealed to have enjoyed a 'very successful' century long marriage to Santirix
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* ReplacementGoldfish: It seems Gladia was this to Fastolfe between books, as he thought of her as a daughter after his falling out with Vasilia. Gladia and Vasilia even resemble each other physically.

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* ReplacementGoldfish: It seems Gladia was this to Fastolfe between books, as he thought of her as a daughter after his falling out with Vasilia. Gladia and Vasilia even resemble each other physically. It was mutual; Gladia came to see Fastolf as the father she'd never had.

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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: Solarian Overseers. Later, Amadiro tries to use it to argue that Earthmen aren't human... only to be told that Solaria sets a bad precedent.

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* WhatMeasureIsANonHuman: The Solarian Overseers.Overseers, while ostensibly ThreeLawsCompliant, are [[spoiler:purposefully given a much more exclusive definition of human]] than normal robots. Later, Amadiro tries to use it to argue that Earthmen aren't human... only to be told that Solaria sets a bad precedent.

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