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* CommieLand: The Red Lakes Confederation, the DSA Government, the FDSA, and The Cascadians. Outside of America are the members of Pan-America.
* TheCoup: A group of US military officers sympathetic to Qanon conspiracy theories launch a coup against the US government when the 2024 presidential election fails to produce a clear winner, kicking off the Second American Civil War in earnest.
* TheCoup: A group of US military officers sympathetic to Qanon conspiracy theories launch a coup against the US government when the 2024 presidential election fails to produce a clear winner, kicking off the Second American Civil War in earnest.
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* CommieLand: The Red Lakes Confederation, the DSA Government, the FDSA, and The Cascadians. Outside of America are the members of Pan-America.
Pan-America and the [[spoiler:nations belonging to the 4th Internationale]].
* TheCoup: [[spoiler: A group of US military officers sympathetic to Qanon conspiracy theories launch a coup against the US government when the 2024 presidential election fails to produce a clear winner, kicking off the Second American Civil War in earnest.]]
* TheCoup: [[spoiler: A group of US military officers sympathetic to Qanon conspiracy theories launch a coup against the US government when the 2024 presidential election fails to produce a clear winner, kicking off the Second American Civil War in earnest.]]
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* OppressiveStatesOfAmerica: The National Unity Government starts out trying to uphold the US Constitution, but morphs into a military dictatorship after a coup/
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* OppressiveStatesOfAmerica: The National Unity Government starts out trying to uphold the US Constitution, but morphs into a military dictatorship after a coup/coup by the Civic Nationalists.
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** Donald Trump (R-NY, 2017-2020) is President Corrupt, as he leads America into an ill-advised war with Iran and uses the increasing unrest at home to increase his political power. He dies of COVID after losing the 2020 presidential election.
** Mike Pence (R-IN, 2020-2021) is President Focus Group, as he does very little policy-wise while serving out the remainder of Trump's term after the latter's death.
** Andrew Cuomo (D-NY, 2021-2021) is President Iron and President Jerkass, as he continues the Iran War despite its unpopularity with the American people and has an antagonistic relationship with Congress and the press. He is declared unfit for office and removed under the 25th Amendment after a BungledSuicide.
** Pete Buttigieg (D-NY, 2021-2021) is President Iron and President Buffoon, as he also refuses to throw in the towel in the Iran War and his attempts to ease civil unrest at home come off as out of touch, and President Minority for being the first openly gay president. He is also removed from office under the 25th Amendment after suffering a mental breakdown from an assassination attempt that kills his husband.
** Kamala Harris (D-NY, 2021-2025) is President Minority, being the first woman president, and President Buffoon for her tone-deaf attempts to stop the American Troubles. She is killed when Qanon-sympathetic military officers take over Washington DC.
** Mike Pence (R-IN, 2020-2021) is President Focus Group, as he does very little policy-wise while serving out the remainder of Trump's term after the latter's death.
** Andrew Cuomo (D-NY, 2021-2021) is President Iron and President Jerkass, as he continues the Iran War despite its unpopularity with the American people and has an antagonistic relationship with Congress and the press. He is declared unfit for office and removed under the 25th Amendment after a BungledSuicide.
** Pete Buttigieg (D-NY, 2021-2021) is President Iron and President Buffoon, as he also refuses to throw in the towel in the Iran War and his attempts to ease civil unrest at home come off as out of touch, and President Minority for being the first openly gay president. He is also removed from office under the 25th Amendment after suffering a mental breakdown from an assassination attempt that kills his husband.
** Kamala Harris (D-NY, 2021-2025) is President Minority, being the first woman president, and President Buffoon for her tone-deaf attempts to stop the American Troubles. She is killed when Qanon-sympathetic military officers take over Washington DC.
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** Donald Trump (R-NY, 2017-2020) is President Corrupt, as he leads America into an ill-advised war with Iran and uses the increasing unrest at home to increase his political power. [[spoiler: He dies of COVID after losing the 2020 presidential election.
election.]]
** [[spoiler: Mike Pence (R-IN, 2020-2021) is President Focus Group, as he does very little policy-wise while serving out the remainder of Trump's term after the latter'sdeath.
death.]]
** [[spoiler: Andrew Cuomo (D-NY, 2021-2021) is President Iron and President Jerkass, as he continues the Iran War despite its unpopularity with the American people and has an antagonistic relationship with Congress and the press. He is declared unfit for office and removed under the 25th Amendment after aBungledSuicide.
BungledSuicide.]]
** [[spoiler: Pete Buttigieg (D-NY, 2021-2021) is President Iron and President Buffoon, as he also refuses to throw in the towel in the Iran War and his attempts to ease civil unrest at home come off as out of touch, and President Minority for being the first openly gay president. He is also removed from office under the 25th Amendment after suffering a mental breakdown from an assassination attempt that kills hishusband.
husband.]]
** [[spoiler: Kamala Harris (D-NY, 2021-2025) is President Minority, being the first woman president, and President Buffoon for her tone-deaf attempts to stop the American Troubles. She is killed when Qanon-sympathetic military officers take over Washington DC.]]
** [[spoiler: Mike Pence (R-IN, 2020-2021) is President Focus Group, as he does very little policy-wise while serving out the remainder of Trump's term after the latter's
** [[spoiler: Andrew Cuomo (D-NY, 2021-2021) is President Iron and President Jerkass, as he continues the Iran War despite its unpopularity with the American people and has an antagonistic relationship with Congress and the press. He is declared unfit for office and removed under the 25th Amendment after a
** [[spoiler: Pete Buttigieg (D-NY, 2021-2021) is President Iron and President Buffoon, as he also refuses to throw in the towel in the Iran War and his attempts to ease civil unrest at home come off as out of touch, and President Minority for being the first openly gay president. He is also removed from office under the 25th Amendment after suffering a mental breakdown from an assassination attempt that kills his
** [[spoiler: Kamala Harris (D-NY, 2021-2025) is President Minority, being the first woman president, and President Buffoon for her tone-deaf attempts to stop the American Troubles. She is killed when Qanon-sympathetic military officers take over Washington DC.]]
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* RightWingMilitiaFanatic: The Revolutionary Right Army, which follows a strict paleoconservative ideology, is initially one of the major factions in the war. While they have some major success early on in the war, they eventually fall apart due to a series of prison revolts in their territory.
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* RightWingMilitiaFanatic: The Revolutionary Right Army, which follows a strict paleoconservative ideology, is initially one of the major factions in the war. While they have some major success early on in the war, they eventually fall apart due to a series of fracturing within the leadership, demographic collapse in the countryside that powered their war machine, constant sieges against cities, and many other things that would culminate in a prison revolts in their territory.
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* OpressiveStatesOfAmerica: The National Unity Government starts out trying to uphold the US Constitution, but morphs into a military dictatorship after a coup/
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** Donald Trump (R-NY, 2017-2020)
** Mike Pence (R-IN, 2020-2021)
** Andrew Cuomo (D-NY, 2021-2021)
** Pete Buttigieg (D-NY, 2021-2021)
** Kamala Harris (D-NY, 2021-2025)
* SecondAmericanCivilWar: Well duh...
* TheTheocracy: The Dominionist Confederated Republics of Christian America, centered in Colorado Springs
** Mike Pence (R-IN, 2020-2021)
** Andrew Cuomo (D-NY, 2021-2021)
** Pete Buttigieg (D-NY, 2021-2021)
** Kamala Harris (D-NY, 2021-2025)
* SecondAmericanCivilWar: Well duh...
* TheTheocracy: The Dominionist Confederated Republics of Christian America, centered in Colorado Springs
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** Donald Trump (R-NY, 2017-2020)
2017-2020) is President Corrupt, as he leads America into an ill-advised war with Iran and uses the increasing unrest at home to increase his political power. He dies of COVID after losing the 2020 presidential election.
** Mike Pence (R-IN,2020-2021)
2020-2021) is President Focus Group, as he does very little policy-wise while serving out the remainder of Trump's term after the latter's death.
** Andrew Cuomo (D-NY,2021-2021)
2021-2021) is President Iron and President Jerkass, as he continues the Iran War despite its unpopularity with the American people and has an antagonistic relationship with Congress and the press. He is declared unfit for office and removed under the 25th Amendment after a BungledSuicide.
** Pete Buttigieg (D-NY,2021-2021)
2021-2021) is President Iron and President Buffoon, as he also refuses to throw in the towel in the Iran War and his attempts to ease civil unrest at home come off as out of touch, and President Minority for being the first openly gay president. He is also removed from office under the 25th Amendment after suffering a mental breakdown from an assassination attempt that kills his husband.
** Kamala Harris (D-NY,2021-2025)
2021-2025) is President Minority, being the first woman president, and President Buffoon for her tone-deaf attempts to stop the American Troubles. She is killed when Qanon-sympathetic military officers take over Washington DC.
* RightWingMilitiaFanatic: The Revolutionary Right Army, which follows a strict paleoconservative ideology, is initially one of the major factions in the war. While they have some major success early on in the war, they eventually fall apart due to a series of prison revolts in their territory.
* SecondAmericanCivilWar: Wellduh...
duh. Unlike most stories with this trope, there's also a prolonged period of violence before the "official" start of the civil war, referred to as the American Troubles.
* TheTheocracy: The Dominionist Confederated Republics of Christian America, centered in ColoradoSpringsSprings.
* WonTheWarLostThePeace: The government of Iran is able to repel the American invasion, only to be overthrown by members of its armed forces who have turned to leftism.
** Mike Pence (R-IN,
** Andrew Cuomo (D-NY,
** Pete Buttigieg (D-NY,
** Kamala Harris (D-NY,
* RightWingMilitiaFanatic: The Revolutionary Right Army, which follows a strict paleoconservative ideology, is initially one of the major factions in the war. While they have some major success early on in the war, they eventually fall apart due to a series of prison revolts in their territory.
* SecondAmericanCivilWar: Well
* TheTheocracy: The Dominionist Confederated Republics of Christian America, centered in Colorado
* WonTheWarLostThePeace: The government of Iran is able to repel the American invasion, only to be overthrown by members of its armed forces who have turned to leftism.
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And Our Flag Was Not there is a timeline created by Dab Master on Sufficient Velocity, and can be found on [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/and-our-flag-was-not-there-a-history-of-the-second-american-civil-war.97743/ here]].
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* [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/2020-shots-fired.88568/ 2020: Shots Fired]], which chronicles the increasing unrest in both America and the world caused by Sanders's death, and ends just as the Second American Civil War is beginning.
* [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/and-our-flag-was-not-there-a-history-of-the-second-american-civil-war.97743/ And Our Flag Was Not There]], which documents the events of the Second American Civil War.
* [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/2020-shots-fired.88568/ 2020: Shots Fired]], which chronicles the increasing unrest in both America and the world caused by Sanders's death, and ends just as the Second American Civil War is beginning.
* [[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/and-our-flag-was-not-there-a-history-of-the-second-american-civil-war.97743/ And Our Flag Was Not There]], which documents the events of the Second American Civil War.
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** While there is no riot in the US Capitol after the 2020 election due to tighter security, Marjorie Taylor Greene is able to smuggle a gun into the chamber and kill Nancy Pelosi.
** None of the candidates in the 2024 US presidential election are able to get the required number of Electoral College votes, so the House of Representatives holds a contingent election on January 6. However, Congress is unable to reach a final vote and tensions eventually get so high that fistfights break out on the floor that only end when [[spoiler:Qanon-aligned US military officers launch a coup.]]
** While there is no riot in the US Capitol after the 2020 election due to tighter security, Marjorie Taylor Greene is able to smuggle a gun into the chamber and kill Nancy Pelosi.
** None of the candidates in the 2024 US presidential election are able to get the required number of Electoral College votes, so the House of Representatives holds a contingent election on January 6. However, Congress is unable to reach a final vote and tensions eventually get so high that fistfights break out on the floor that only end when [[spoiler:Qanon-aligned US military officers launch a coup.]]
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* TheCoup: A group of US military officers sympathetic to Qanon conspiracy theories launch a coup against the US government when the 2024 presidential election fails to produce a clear winner, kicking off the Second American Civil War in earnest.
** The National Unity Government, the remnant of the old US government, is overthrown by another coup.
** The National Unity Government, the remnant of the old US government, is overthrown by another coup.
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* FictionalPoliticalParty: After Donald Trump dies of COVID, his supporters break away from the Republican Party and form the America First Party, which is based on the ideas pushed by Trump when he was alive.
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The assassination of Bernie Sanders in December 2019 leads to leftist factions in America taking a much more militant turn then followed by the right doing the same than they did in our timeline. Coupled with a complete military and social disaster in the form of a War with Iran, the collapse of the global economy, and political chaos, the US plunges into civil war after a disputed election in 2024. The flag that dominated the world for 100 years is no more, but what might replace it could be even worse...
* BalkanizeMe: By 2028, America has effectively balkanized into different factions.
* CommieLand: The Red Lakes Confederation, the DSA Government, the FDSA, and The Cascadians. Outside of America are the members of Pan-America.
* DividedStatesOfAmerica: Obviously what this TL is about.
* DisasterDominoes: One event, The Assassination of Bernie Sanders causes multiple events that would lead to America collapsing.
* DidAnastasiaSurvive: [[spoiler: The Sabmyk]]
* DisasterDominoes: One event, The Assassination of Bernie Sanders causes multiple events that would lead to America collapsing.
* DidAnastasiaSurvive: [[spoiler: The Sabmyk]]
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* OurPresidentsAreDifferent:
** Donald Trump (R-NY, 2017-2020)
** Mike Pence (R-IN, 2020-2021)
** Andrew Cuomo (D-NY, 2021-2021)
** Pete Buttigieg (D-NY, 2021-2021)
** Kamala Harris (D-NY, 2021-2025)
* SecondAmericanCivilWar: Wellduh...duh...
* TheTheocracy: The Dominionist Confederated Republics of Christian America, centered in Colorado Springs
** Donald Trump (R-NY, 2017-2020)
** Mike Pence (R-IN, 2020-2021)
** Andrew Cuomo (D-NY, 2021-2021)
** Pete Buttigieg (D-NY, 2021-2021)
** Kamala Harris (D-NY, 2021-2025)
* SecondAmericanCivilWar: Well
* TheTheocracy: The Dominionist Confederated Republics of Christian America, centered in Colorado Springs
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* LesserOfTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime based on the cultural annihilation of minorities that has sold its soul to unrestricted capitalism and oligarchs, the North American Union State (NAUS) winds up becoming this in comparison to most other right wing factions, especially after NATO intervenes to stop [[spoiler: the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State]] and [[spoiler: the Dominionist CRCA]] from threatening the entire world.
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* LesserOfTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime based on the cultural annihilation of minorities that has sold its soul to unrestricted capitalism and oligarchs, the North American Union State (NAUS) winds up becoming this in comparison to most other right wing factions, especially after NATO intervenes to stop [[spoiler: the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State]] and [[spoiler: the Dominionist CRCA]] Confederated Republics of Christian America]] from threatening the entire world.
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* LesserOfTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime that has sold its soul to unrestricted capitalism and oligarchs, the North American Union State (NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop [[spoiler: the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State]] and [[spoiler: the Dominionist CRCA]] from threatening the entire world.
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* LesserOfTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime based on the cultural annihilation of minorities that has sold its soul to unrestricted capitalism and oligarchs, the North American Union State (NAUS) winds up becoming this, this in comparison to most other right wing factions, especially after NATO intervenes to stop [[spoiler: the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State]] and [[spoiler: the Dominionist CRCA]] from threatening the entire world.
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* CivilWar: Well duh...This TL is obviously about a Second American Civil War.
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* FallenStatesOfAmerica: America has fallen into a devastating civil war that has claimed millions.
* LesserOfTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime that has sold its soul to unreconstructed capitalism, the North American Union State (NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State and the Dominionist CRCA from threatening the entire world.
* SecondAmericanCivilWar: This TL is obviously about a Second American Civil War.
* LesserOfTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime that has sold its soul to unreconstructed capitalism, the North American Union State (NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State and the Dominionist CRCA from threatening the entire world.
* SecondAmericanCivilWar: This TL is obviously about a Second American Civil War.
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* FallenStatesOfAmerica: After a prolonged series of crises America has fallen into a devastating civil war that has claimed millions.
millions upon millions of lives. At any rate it is unlikely that any one polity will be uniting the territory of the former U.S any time soon, especially considering that many factions are trying to build something new on the corpse of the country instead.
* LesserOfTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime that has sold its soul tounreconstructed capitalism, unrestricted capitalism and oligarchs, the North American Union State (NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop [[spoiler: the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State State]] and [[spoiler: the Dominionist CRCA CRCA]] from threatening the entire world.
* SecondAmericanCivilWar:This TL is obviously about a Second American Civil War.Well duh...
* LesserOfTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime that has sold its soul to
* SecondAmericanCivilWar:
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* LesserofTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime that has sold its soul to unreconstructed capitalism, the North American Union State (NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State and the Dominionist CRCA from threatening the entire world.
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* LesserofTwoEvils: FallenStatesOfAmerica: America has fallen into a devastating civil war that has claimed millions.
* LesserOfTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime that has sold its soul to unreconstructed capitalism, the North American Union State (NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State and the Dominionist CRCA from threatening the entireworld.world.
* SecondAmericanCivilWar: This TL is obviously about a Second American Civil War.
* LesserOfTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime that has sold its soul to unreconstructed capitalism, the North American Union State (NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State and the Dominionist CRCA from threatening the entire
* SecondAmericanCivilWar: This TL is obviously about a Second American Civil War.
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* LesserofTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime that has sold its soul to unreconstructed capitalism, the North American Union State(NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State and the Dominionist CRCA from threatening the entire world.
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* LesserofTwoEvils: While an oppressive regime that has sold its soul to unreconstructed capitalism, the North American Union State(NAUS) State (NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State and the Dominionist CRCA from threatening the entire world.
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** The Second American Civil War differs form most timelines in that it is more clolsey based off of the insanity of conflicts like the Syrian Civil War, rather than falling into the trap of being a redux of the first War.
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** The Second American Civil War differs form most timelines in that it is more clolsey closely based off of the insanity of conflicts like the Syrian Civil War, rather than falling into the trap of being a redux of the first Civil War.
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* CrapsackWorld: The world is collapsing from multiple trends having accelerated and fascism is taking hold in Europe.
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* CrapsackWorld: The world Westphalian World Order is collapsing from multiple trends having accelerated all sides, as nations are torn apart in civil wars and fascism is taking hold in Europe.revolutions, and capitalism increasingly desperately tries to prevent itself from collapsing by embracing authoritarianism and even outright fascism.
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* LesserofTwoEvils: The North American Union State(NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop the Aryan Bastion State and CRCA from threatening the entire world.
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* LesserofTwoEvils: The While an oppressive regime that has sold its soul to unreconstructed capitalism, the North American Union State(NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop the neo-Nazi Aryan Bastion State and the Dominionist CRCA from threatening the entire world.
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Crapsack World: The world is collapsing from multiple trends having accelerated and fascism is taking hold in Europe.
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The assassination of Bernie Sanders in December 2019 leads to leftist factions in America taking a much more militant turn then they did in our timeline. Coupled with a complete military and social disaster in the form of a War with Iran, the collapse of the global economy, and political chaos, the US plunges into civil war after a disputed election in 2024. The flag that dominated the world for 200 years is no more, but will what replaces might replace it could be even worse...
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And Our Flag Was Not there is a TL created by Dab master and can be found here[[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/and-our-flag-was-not-there-a-history-of-the-second-american-civil-war.97743/]]. The assassination of Bernie Sanders in December 2019 leads to leftist factions in America taking a much more militant turn then they did in our timeline. Coupled with a complete military and social disaster in the form of a War with Iran, the collapse of the global economy, and political chaos, the US plunges into civil war after a disputed election in 2024. The flag that dominated the world for 200 years is no more, but will what replaces it be even worse...
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And Our Flag Was Not there is a TL created by the Sufficient Velocity user known as Dab master Master, and can be found here[[https://forums.on said site at :[[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/and-our-flag-was-not-there-a-history-of-the-second-american-civil-war.97743/]].
The assassination of Bernie Sanders in December 2019 leads to leftist factions in America taking a much more militant turn then they did in our timeline. Coupled with a complete military and social disaster in the form of a War with Iran, the collapse of the global economy, and political chaos, the US plunges into civil war after a disputed election in 2024. The flag that dominated the world for 200 years is no more, but will what replaces it be even worse...
The assassination of Bernie Sanders in December 2019 leads to leftist factions in America taking a much more militant turn then they did in our timeline. Coupled with a complete military and social disaster in the form of a War with Iran, the collapse of the global economy, and political chaos, the US plunges into civil war after a disputed election in 2024. The flag that dominated the world for 200 years is no more, but will what replaces it be even worse...
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And Our Flag Was Not there is a TL created by Dab master and can be found here[[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/and-our-flag-was-not-there-a-history-of-the-second-american-civil-war.97743/]]. The POD is this: Bernie Sanders is assassinated in December 2019 and the leftists and progressives in America arm up and fight back. Coupled with a second Vietnam in Iran and global economic collapse, the US plunges into civil war amidst a disputed 2025 election, and things fall apart. No more flag.
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And Our Flag Was Not there is a TL created by Dab master and can be found here[[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/and-our-flag-was-not-there-a-history-of-the-second-american-civil-war.97743/]]. The POD is this: assassination of Bernie Sanders is assassinated in December 2019 and the leftists and progressives leads to leftist factions in America arm up and fight back. taking a much more militant turn then they did in our timeline. Coupled with a second Vietnam in Iran complete military and social disaster in the form of a War with Iran, the collapse of the global economic collapse, economy, and political chaos, the US plunges into civil war amidst after a disputed 2025 election, and things fall apart. No more flag.
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And Our Flag Was Not there is a TL created by Dab master and can be found here[[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/and-our-flag-was-not-there-a-history-of-the-second-american-civil-war.97743/]]. The POD is this: Bernie Sanders is assassinated in December 2019 and the leftists and progressives in America arm up and fight back. Coupled with a second Vietnam in Iran and global economic collapse, the US plunges into civil war amidst a disputed 2025 election, and things fall apart. No more flag.
Civil War: Literally this.
Crapsack World: The world is collapsing from multiple trends having accelerated and fascism is taking hold in Europe.
Lesser of Two Evils: The North American Union State(NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop the Aryan Bastion State and CRCA from threatening the entire world.
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And Our Flag Was Not there is a TL created by Dab master and can be found here[[https://forums.sufficientvelocity.com/threads/and-our-flag-was-not-there-a-history-of-the-second-american-civil-war.97743/]]. The POD is this: Bernie Sanders is assassinated in December 2019 and the leftists and progressives in America arm up and fight back. Coupled with a second Vietnam in Iran and global economic collapse, the US plunges into civil war amidst a disputed 2025 election, and things fall apart. No more flag.
Civil War: Literally this.
Crapsack World: The world is collapsing from multiple trends having accelerated and fascism is taking hold in Europe.
Lesser of Two Evils: The North American Union State(NAUS) winds up becoming this, especially after NATO intervenes to stop the Aryan Bastion State and CRCA from threatening the entire world.
